Death: A Changing Industry

John Adams sits down with Sumita Paul, Chair of New Zealand’s Grief Centre, to discuss grief, loss, and the work being done to support bereaved people across New Zealand.

The conversation focuses on how grief and trauma are held within the body, and how simple practices like conscious breathing can support healing and resilience. Our guests, Helen Spencer and Elle Riley from Pathways to Resilience (https://www.pathways-to-resilience.co.uk) discuss the role of breathwork in schools, the importance of supporting young people’s wellbeing, and how small, daily practices can help individuals better manage grief, stress, and life’s challenges.⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for new episodes

In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, John Adams speaks with Olivia, who lost her mum at just 12 and is now campaigning for bereavement education in schools. She shares her experience of navigating grief as a child and the impact of limited support within education.The conversation highlights why schools must do more to support grieving young people, and how honest, compassionate communication can make a lasting difference.⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for new episodes

In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, John Adams is joined online by Dr Lauren Breen, a researcher from Australia whose work has helped shape conversations around grief literacy, loss, and how society supports people through difficult life experiences. Drawing on her research and practice, Lauren reflects on how young people often understand grief more broadly than adults do, particularly when it comes to losses that are not In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, John Adams is joined online by Dr Lauren Breen, a researcher from Australia whose work has helped shape conversations around grief literacy, loss, and how society supports people through difficult life experiences. Drawing on her research and practice, Lauren reflects on how young people often understand grief more broadly than adults do, particularly when it comes to losses that are not connected to death.⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for new episodesconnected to death.

With 43 years in funeral service and a deep commitment to supporting bereaved families, Don Burstow shares the personal journey that led him into the profession and the philosophy that continues to guide his work today.The conversation explores how the funeral profession is changing, from the rise of direct cremation and the decline of traditional religious funerals to what Don describes as a growing “mourning-avoidant” culture. Together they discuss the importance of slowing down to face grief, the role of community and ritual, and Don’s guiding framework for supporting families through loss: the Four R’s — realise, remember, receive, and release. ⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.

In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, I sit down with Luke Gregson, funeral director and Junior Vice President of Funerals Australia, at his family funeral home on the Sunshine Coast, Australia.We discuss the future of Australia’s funeral profession — from staffing shortages and industry wages to regulation, direct cremation, and the importance of ceremony in supporting healthy grief. As families seek greater control and expectations shift, is the profession at a crossroads?⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for new episodes

In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, I sit down with Asha Dooley, Funeral Director at Grace Funerals and President of Funerals Australia, at her family funeral home located in Sydney, Australia.⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.🎧 Listen on Spotify & Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for new episodes

In this episode, we talk to Chad Rynehart, a former Anglican minister turned funeral director, to explore the changing role of religion, grief, and community. From his personal journey out of organised religion to the authentic, human-centred approach he now brings to funerals, this conversation offers profound insights into why traditional structures no longer serve everyone and what we can do instead.We talk about the power of gathering, the importance of shared experiences, and how creativity and compassion can transform how we grieve. Whether you’re religious, spiritual, or neither, this episode will move you, challenge you, and offer hope.Topics Covered: Why more people are turning away from organised religion How funerals can be more personal and meaningful The spirituality in football, community, and everyday connection How to help loved ones face death and grief openly Finding faith in humanity beyond religious institutions

In 2019, 39 people lost their lives after being found in a lorry in Essex, having travelled illegally from Vietnam to the UK.Funeral director Edward Cutler shares the emotional, ethical, and logistical reality of being entrusted with bringing them home — and the weight of responsibility that comes with it.⸻👤 ABOUT THE GUESTEdward Cutler is a London-based funeral director known for his compassionate care and leadership in complex international repatriation cases, including the 2019 Essex tragedy.He runs a family-owned funeral business dedicated to dignity, transparency, and service at life’s most difficult moments.🔗 https://www.slatersinternational.co.uk/⸻🙌 OUR SPONSORSPrincipal SponsorNational Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) (https://nafd.org.uk)A progressive and inclusive voice for the funeral profession and bereaved people across the UK, the NAFD leads with integrity, advocacy, and education.GreenAcres (https://greenacresgroup.co.uk/)With six beautiful Living Memorial Parks across the UK, GreenAcres offers families natural, uplifting places to reflect, remember, and reconnect with those they’ve lost.FuneralBranch (https://funeralbranch.com/)FuneralBranch websites help funeral directors rank higher in search, clearly present their services, accept online payments, and convert early interest into meaningful enquiries.Westerleigh Group (https://westerleighgroup.co.uk/)Westerleigh Group provides high-quality cremation services in calm, thoughtfully designed spaces, putting care, respect, and choice at the heart of every farewell.MuchLoved (https://muchloved.com/)MuchLoved helps families create lasting online memorials. A place to share memories, light candles, and honour lives with love and connection.⸻📌 ABOUT THE PODCASTDeath: A Changing Industry explores the people, stories, and ideas shaping the future of funerals, bereavement, and remembrance.

This groundbreaking episode of Death: A Changing Industry removes the mystery around cremation in the UK, showing every respectful stage of the process, from the hearse arrival to the final committal, care of the deceased and the final release of the ashes.Alan José, a pioneer in public crematorium open days since 1977, shares why transparency matters and addresses the most common myths surrounding cremation. With no real deceased used in the demonstration, this is a powerful and sensitive walkthrough for both the public and professionals. Discover:– What happens to a coffin from start to finish– How identity is safeguarded at every stage– The environmental care behind modern cremation– Why ceremonies and grief rituals matter– Options for ashes and legal guidanceThis episode has been recorded with the kind permission from Westerleigh Group at Mercia Forest Crematorium.Filmed and Produced by SMASHCAT Media ([email protected])

Grief brings a storm of emotions and that’s normal. In this powerful conversation with Nicola Marshall, we explore what real support looks like after a death: holding space, listening more than we speak, and resisting the urge to “fix”. Nicola shares candidly about losing her son Lucas, how community showed up, and why emotional honesty (for adults and children) is essential to healing.We discuss:• Practical ways friends, neighbours, teachers and employers can support after the funeral.• Why “I’m here” beats perfect words.• Children’s grief: age-appropriate truth, safety and questions.• The body keeping the score and unpicking old trauma.• Human connection vs AI “comfort” — and why presence matters.• Self-care, boundaries, and building a grief-literate society.This is an honest, deeply moving episode that reminds us that grief isn’t to be hidden or hurried, it’s to be honoured.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

April Commons has never met her sister, Lola, who died before birth, but she has always known her.In this powerful conversation, April, just 15 years old, shares what it’s like growing up in a family where grief is open, honest, and part of everyday life.She speaks with remarkable clarity about “secondary grief,” the importance of honesty with children, and why wrapping young people in bubble wrap often does more harm than good.From helping at bereavement retreats to supporting classmates who quietly share their own losses, April shows that young people understand far more than we often give them credit for.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

At nine months pregnant, Lisa learned her daughter Lola had no heartbeat.In this deeply human conversation, she shares how that moment shattered everything and quietly set her on a path to becoming a grief and bereavement coach.She reflects on raising her rainbow baby, April, in a home where grief isn’t hidden but embraced and how rituals, honesty, and community support have helped her family heal.This episode explores the courage to grieve in the open, the importance of bereavement support, and the quiet growth that can come after the unthinkable.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

How do we better support children through grief?John and Kevin discuss the landmark moment Parliament debated including death, dying and bereavement in the national curriculum.Kevin reflects on the emotional December debate, the personal loss of his father and brother, and how his lived experience fuels his work in Westminster. They explore the impact of grief on young people, why breaking the taboo is vital, and how collective efforts led to real policy change.This episode is a must-watch for: • Educators • Policy makers • Mental health professionals • Parents & carers • Anyone passionate about compassionate education reform🔔 Subscribe for more conversations that matter.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

In this episode, we speak with Emma, Matt, and Michael from Laurelo – Path to Probate. Emma and Matt open up about the heart-wrenching loss of their partners and the raw reality of raising bereaved children. Their stories are honest, emotional, and inspiring, a testament to the resilience of families navigating unimaginable grief.They discuss the brutal moment of breaking devastating news to children, how grief reshaped their lives, and how those experiences led them to support other families through Laurelo’s unique approach to probate. Michael sheds light on the often misunderstood world of probate, what it is, when it’s needed, and how Laurelo aims to make it more humane and supportive.This is a conversation for anyone who has experienced loss, is supporting someone grieving, or for anyone who wants to understand why compassionate support during bereavement matters more than ever.👉 Every 20 minutes in the UK, a parent dies. This is a conversation we must be having.

In this powerful episode of Death, A Changing Industry, we speak with Dr Emma Clare, CEO of End of Life Doula UK and Chartered Psychologist, about the quiet, peaceful side of dying that rarely makes headlines.We explore:– What an end of life death doula really does– How we’ve lost our cultural relationship with death– The rise of direct cremation and its emotional cost– Why community and calmness matter at the end of life– How children process grief better than adults– The true power of being present when someone diesThis honest and heartfelt conversation may change the way you see the end of life – forever.--🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

The funeral profession is under immense pressure. In this episode of Death: A Changing Industry, we’re joined by Rachel Bradburne of the NAFD, who unpacks the urgent need for regulation, shifting consumer behaviours, and the silent crisis affecting local funeral directors across the UK.This is a frank and powerful conversation about where the sector is headed.We explore:- Why unregulated funeral care risks a “race to the bottom”- The cracks in the death management pathway- Why regulation might be the key to survival for local funeral homes- What defines a funeral in the modern eraWhether you’re in the profession, recently bereaved, or simply curious about what’s next for funeral care in Britain, this is essential listening.

When Richard lost his wife Kerry, his world changed overnight. Left to raise three children alone, he chose a path of openness, connection, and empowerment, inviting his children into the heart of grief rather than shielding them from it.From sealing their mum’s coffin to placing birthday cards inside, every act became a moment of healing. In this emotional conversation, Richard reflects on Kerry’s final days, the power of giving his children agency in death, and how their shared grief has shaped their strength.This isn’t just a story of loss. It’s a story of love, bravery, and what it means to honour someone properly.--🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

From losing his father at just eight years old to leading a team of over 1,000 funeral colleagues, Lee shares how grief shaped his purpose and how the funeral sector is evolving.Whether you work in the funeral profession or have ever wondered what really happens behind the scenes, this episode offers rare insight with authenticity and heart.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

In this deeply moving episode of Death, a Changing Industry, we sit down with Stuart Anderson, MP for South Shropshire, to explore his extraordinary life journey.From childhood bereavement and military service to battling PTSD and eventually becoming a Member of Parliament.Stuart shares his raw and personal experiences of grief, loss, and resilience, including the impact of losing his father at the age of eight, being shot during military training, and how he found purpose in serving others through politics.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

We welcome Ross Hickton, President of SAIF (The Society of Allied and Independent Funeral Directors), to discuss the biggest challenges facing the funeral sector today.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

What does a funeral really mean in today’s world? In this deeply moving episode, we speak with Kelly Scott, President of the Australian Funeral Directors Association, about the evolving nature of farewells, the quiet power of community, and why unattended cremations may leave families emotionally adrift.With over 35 years of experience in a family-run funeral home, Kelly opens up about the profound impact of rituals, the emotional toll of the job, and the importance of being present for one another, even in silence. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdeninsurance.co.uk/small-business/by-business-type/funeral-sector/?int=10805 MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

What role does architecture play in how we grieve?Professor Hilary Grainger OBE joins us to explore how crematoriums shape our experience of loss, remembrance, and even our own mortality.From ritual to reflection, and from landscape to legacy, we uncover how these often-overlooked buildings hold deep cultural and emotional significance.Whether you’re in the funeral profession, a student of architecture, or simply curious about how society navigates death, this conversation will change the way you see these sacred spaces.🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

We welcome Linda Magistris, founder and CEO of The Good Grief Trust. After the sudden loss of her partner, Linda turned heartbreak into action, creating a national support network to ensure that no one in the UK grieves alone.She shares her story, the founding of the Trust, the importance of early bereavement support, and her work with the NHS, police, and funeral sector. We also explore the impact of National Grief Awareness Week and how grief is still one of the last taboos in modern society.

Steve Phillip’s world changed with one phone call. In this powerful conversation, we learn how Steve has turned his loss into a mission for change. Through The Jordan Legacy, he’s working to support mental well-being and prevent future tragedies.

Suicide rates are higher than reported, and those in the funeral industry see the truth first-hand. In this episode, we sit down with Scott Munn, a 12th-generation funeral director and co-founder of Men With Issues, a mental health support group in Scotland. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

In a unique twist, this episode flips the script as host John Adams becomes the guest for the first time. Interviewed by Kirstie Hurst-Knight, John shares his personal journey—from his childhood and military service to his empowering work in the funeral industry—and his mission to make bereavement education a national priority. This candid conversation offers powerful insights into resilience, community, and preparing the next generation to face life’s challenges. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

In this different episode, we explore one of life’s most challenging yet universal experiences: grief. From personal stories of loss to the misconceptions surrounding how we cope, this episode is a raw, honest, and vital discussion that will resonate with anyone who has experienced loss. Join us as we tackle society’s greatest taboo, share lessons learned, and highlight how healing and hope can emerge from the darkest moments.

Nicola Marshall shares her journey through the unimaginable—the tragic death of her 12-year-old son, Lucas. She speaks openly about her grief, the moments she wanted to give up, and how she ultimately found purpose and hope through helping others. This heartfelt conversation touches on coping with loss, the importance of building a supportive tribe, and why we need to change our relationship with death. Nicola also discusses her work in grief therapy and her powerful TEDx talk on identity after loss.

Join us as we discuss the historic collaboration between The National Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) and the Society of Allied and Independent Funeral Directors (SAIF). We welcome the President of SAIF, Declan Maguire and the Immediate Past President of the NAFD, Barry Pritchard. This conversation delves into the key collaboration between the two associations, setting a new direction for the future of the funeral sector. Declan and Barry reflect on the challenges, the shared vision for regulation, and what the future holds for bereavement care in a rapidly evolving space. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

With preferences shifting within society, direct unattended cremation on the rise, and digital marketing dominating, all service providers need to evolve now more than ever. Join us as we dive into practical strategy with SAIF president Declan Maguire on modernising funeral service providers and staying ahead of the national shifts.

Jenny discusses the evolving funeral industry, from the rise of direct cremation to the unseen emotional toll of skipping a traditional funeral. She opens up about the pressures of leading the NAFD while running a family business and juggling parental duties. Jenny also offers insights into the challenges of maintaining industry standards and why it’s crucial to educate the public on what funeral directors truly do. Watch to learn more about how the funeral profession is changing, and why a good funeral director is more important than ever. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

With declining religious engagement and the disruption of traditional rituals, Reverand Garry Ward offers his thoughts on how the church can adapt, rebuild, and become a vital part of communities once again. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

Lucy Biggs shares her journey through the loss of her first baby, Reuben, and how this heartbreaking experience transformed her life, leading her to a fulfilling role as an independent funeral celebrant, where she now helps others navigate their own grief. Join us as Lucy discusses the profound impact of Reuben’s legacy, the importance of connection in the grieving process, and the unique ways she honours her son’s memory. This is a story of love, loss, and the enduring power of remembrance. 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

Clare Shaw joins us to discuss the challenges of talking about death, especially with children, revealing more about the inspiration behind her latest book aimed at helping families navigate the difficult emotions surrounding loss. Learn practical advice on supporting children through bereavement, the importance of open conversations about death, and the impactful work being done to integrate grief education into the national curriculum. Whether you've experienced a loss or want to be better prepared to support others, this episode offers valuable insights and compassionate guidance. I'm confident you will find Clare's insights incredibly valuable and moving. 💥 DON'T MISS OUT! Don't forget to hit subscribe! Ring the bell 🔔 to get notified about new episodes! 📚 ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: John and Clare's Book: https://cskidsbooks.com/product/dont-tell-the-children/ 🙌 OUR SPONSORS National Association of Funeral Directors: https://www.nafd.org.uk/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Obitus: https://www2.obitus.com Laurelo: https://laurelo.co.uk/ Howden: https://www.howdengroup.com/uk-en MuchLoved: https://www.muchloved.com/

We are truly privileged to have had the opportunity to speak with Nick Knowles who has shared with us his deeply personal experiences with grief and loss, and how these have shaped his mission to support bereaved and vulnerable families. Nick delves into stories of community-driven projects that provide crucial support to those dealing with unimaginable hardships. Nick's insights offer a powerful perspective on the importance of compassion and community in the face of tragedy. Join us as Nick discusses the profound impact of his work and the lessons he's learned along the way.

Stacey Heale shares her profound journey of navigating the terminal illness and eventual loss of her husband, Greg, while raising their two young daughters. Stacey candidly discusses the emotional challenges, the importance of open conversations about death, and how she prepared herself and her children for the inevitable. She reveals the power of involving children in the grieving process and the transformative impact of community support. Stacey’s story is a testament to resilience and growth, offering valuable insights into dealing with grief and finding strength amidst the darkest times.

From his incredible journey as a curious 14-year-old with a Saturday job at a funeral home to leading the UK’s funeral association, Andrew Judd, CEO of the National Association of Funeral Directors (NAFD) reveals the importance of discussing death openly. Learn about his unique experiences, including working in different cultural contexts and the impact of his dissertation on consumer behaviour in the funeral industry. This episode offers a compelling look into the world of funeral services and the profound impact of compassionate care.

James Gardner shares his unique journey from an entrepreneurial background to owning several funeral directors. He discusses the importance of company culture, leadership, and mentoring within the funeral industry. James highlights the evolving expectations in bereavement services, the challenges of handling blended families, and the significance of mental health support for team members. His insights offer a fresh perspective on navigating the complexities of the funeral profession and the value of learning from failures.

In this enlightening episode, Grace Jevons, CEO of the Association of Independent Celebrants, delves into the transformative world of civil ceremonies, illuminating the growing public desire for personalised and meaningful commemorations to suit their budget. Grace shares her unique journey from contemplating a career as a vicar or funeral director to becoming a pivotal figure in civil celebrations. She unpacks the nuances between civil, religious, and humanist ceremonies, emphasising the increasing public appetite for choice and customization in both weddings and funerals. Grace's insights reveal a profound shift towards ceremonies that reflect individual beliefs and values, underscored by her experiences with bereavement, community engagement, and the emotional intricacies of celebrating life's pivotal moments. Her expertise provides a compelling overview of the evolving landscape of commemorations, highlighting the importance of accessibility, personalisation, and the delicate balance between tradition and innovation in the funeral industry.

In this profoundly moving episode of Death: A Changing Industry, Megan McClay shares her personal odyssey facing terminal ocular melanoma with an unyielding spirit and an open heart. From her involvement in the impactful "What Matters Most" project to navigating the complexities of end-of-life care, Megan's story is one of courage, advocacy, and the quest for meaning amidst life's most challenging moments. She delves into the emotional rollercoaster of diagnosis, the power of community in facing adversity, and the importance of cherishing every moment with those we love. Megan's reflections on life, death, and the in-between offer a powerful perspective on what it means to truly live. Her journey not only highlights the need for open conversations about end-of-life care but also serves as a beacon of hope and resilience for many facing similar battles. Through her eyes, we are reminded of the beauty in being present. Learn more about the 'What Matters Most?' project here: https://www.samebutdifferentcic.org.uk/whatmattersmost

In this episode, Daniel Devall offers a candid glimpse into the life and challenges of a Funeral Director deeply rooted in family tradition. From his unexpected journey into the funeral industry to confronting the complexities of leading a family business through personal and professional upheavals, Daniel shares his unique perspective. He discusses the evolution of funeral practices, the increasing role of digital platforms in the industry, and the importance of adaptability and personal growth. Through stories of personal loss, navigating his parents' separation while at the helm of the family business, and the constant balancing act between tradition and innovation, Daniel's narrative is a testament to the resilience and dedication required to serve in this intimate profession. His reflections not only shed light on the often-hidden emotional labour of funeral directors but also on the transformative potential of facing life's challenges with courage and an open heart.

RoadPeace members Lucy Harrison and Mandy Oliver chat with John to share the special work that the charity carries out, the support they received during their darkest moments of loss and finding the family they never wanted but now couldn’t be without. www.roadpeace.org

Katie Costello shares her journey from working in retail to becoming a soul midwife, funeral celebrant, and an accredited death educator through her Dying for a Cuppa Masterclass. Katie's story is a testament to finding one's calling and of the profound impact of embracing death as a part of life can have. Death is a very natural and human experience. Here she delves into the importance of honest conversations about death, the power of presence in the dying process, and how education can empower both the dying and the people around them. Katie shows us how talking about death, and facing your fears, can inspire and empower you as well as allowing you to live a richer, fuller life.

We are honoured to welcome Deborah Leek Bailey OBE, a distinguished figure in the realm of education and grief support. Deborah is a leadership consultant (DLB Leadership) and also Director of Schools for the Education Development Trust. With a rich background as a teacher, headteacher, government advisor, and education advisor for Child Bereavement UK, Deborah brings a wealth of experience and compassion to our discussion on the critical intersection of grief, education, and societal support at a critical time. Throughout the episode, Deborah shares her journey from witnessing the profound impact of death and bereavement on children within educational settings to her pivotal roles in shaping policies and support systems that address these challenges head-on. Her insights into the necessity of proactive versus reactive conversations about death, the development of bereavement policies in schools, and the importance of embedding death education into the national curriculum are both enlightening and thought-provoking. Deborah's stories and reflections underscore the profound need for a societal shift towards greater openness, understanding, and support for those navigating the complex journey of grief. From the tragic loss of a child on a school trip to the nuanced emotions surrounding difficult familial relationships, Deborah highlights the diverse experiences of grief and the critical role educators play in providing a compassionate and informed response. As we delve into the potential for policy changes and the importance of age-appropriate grief education, this episode serves as a powerful call to action for more compassionate, informed, and inclusive approaches to death and bereavement support within our schools and communities – which we hope to soon achieve. Join us as we explore how, through collective effort and shared understanding, we can foster a society better equipped to support each other in times of loss and grief.

In this episode, Jenna Maudlin shares the transformative work of the Firefly Project in addressing the often overlooked aspects of grief and bereavement. Through innovative workshops aimed at young people and educators, Jenna reveals how creative engagement and empathy-building exercises can significantly alter the grief experience, fostering a more compassionate and understanding society. Her personal journey of loss and healing inspires a compelling narrative about the power of education in transforming our approach to death and bereavement. Jenna's dedication to breaking down the barriers of grief literacy highlights the urgent need for these conversations in our schools and communities, promising a future where support and understanding are readily accessible to all navigating the complexities of loss.

We join Jen Brown, a seasoned counsellor and psychotherapist, who delves into the complexities of grief and the personal nature of mourning. Jen emphasises that there is no "right" way to grieve, advocating for a compassionate, individualized approach to dealing with loss. Through her expertise, she introduces a variety of therapeutic techniques including hypnotherapy, CBT, EMDR therapy, and mindfulness, highlighting their potential to aid those in mourning. By sharing her belief in the power of love, kindness, and self-care, Jen provides valuable guidance on navigating the emotional journey of grief. Her approach not only offers comfort but also illuminates the path toward healing, underscoring the importance of acknowledging and allowing emotions, with a focus on moving towards acceptance at one's own pace.

In this episode, we're joined by Steph Wild, a nurse and mother who transformed her profound personal loss into a catalyst for change in bereavement education. Through her story, we explore the importance of sensitive and informed care for bereaved families. Steph's journey is not only a testament to her resilience but also highlights the critical need for better support systems in maternity and nursing care for those dealing with the loss of a child. Steph's insights offer hope and guidance for anyone touched by similar tragedies, and her work is forging a path towards more compassionate and comprehensive bereavement care.

Emma shares her deeply personal and professional journey in addressing sudden and unexpected child bereavement. We discuss the creation and impact of 2Wish, and the delicate handling of grief, offering comfort and guidance to those facing the unimaginable loss of a child. A beacon of hope and understanding for anyone touched by loss. It's a tribute to the strength found in the midst of sorrow and the potential for healing and growth even in life's most challenging moments.

In this episode, we have the honour of speaking with Nikki Scott, the inspiring founder of Scotty's Little Soldiers, a charity dedicated to supporting military children and young people who have experienced the death of a parent who served in the British Armed Forces. Nikki opens up about her personal journey of grief following the tragic loss of her husband, Lee, and how it propelled her to create a community that helps young ones find joy and resilience in the face of profound loss. Nikki's story is a testament to the power of transforming personal tragedy into a beacon of hope for others. She dives deep into the unique challenges faced by military families and how Scotty's Little Soldiers provides tailored support to each child, nurturing their emotional and psychological well-being. Join us in this moving conversation as Nikki shares powerful insights and uplifting stories from the children who have found solace and strength through the charity. Her dedication and the impact of Scotty's Little Soldiers highlight the importance of community, connection, and continued support in navigating the journey of grief. We extend our deepest gratitude to Nikki for her vulnerability and commitment to making a difference in the lives of these young heroes. Her work not only honours the memory of her husband but also shines a light on the ongoing needs of bereaved military children. Learn More 👉 @scottystv 💥 DON'T MISS OUT! Don't forget to hit subscribe! Ring the bell 🔔 to get notified about new episodes! 🙌 OUR SPONSORS Life Ledger: Life Ledger is a free, easy-to-use death notification service: https://www.lifeledger.com/ Westerleigh Group: https://www.westerleighgroup.co.uk/ Flexmort: https://flexmort.com/