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Deep Dish on Global Affairs
by The Chicago Council on Global Affairs
Deep Dish on Global Affairs helps you make sense of our rapidly changing world. Join host Leslie Vinjamuri, President and CEO of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, as she speaks with thought leaders, journalists, and experts shaping foreign policy and global events. Together, they go beyond the headlines, explaining how events unfolded, why they matter, and what to watch for. Can global trade survive the shock of Trump's tariffs? What's behind the global race for AI dominance? New episodes every Thursday.Learn more at https://globalaffairs.org/deep-dish
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What Winning the AI Race Really Means
Artificial intelligence is reshaping cybersecurity, military strategy, and the competition between the United States and China. Former Deputy National Security Advisor Anne Neuberger joins Leslie Vinjamuri to discuss what it will take for the US to lead in AI and why staying ahead means more than building the most advanced models.
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What a Road Trip Across America Reveals About the Country Today
As America marks its 250th anniversary, The Economist's John Prideaux retraces Alexis de Tocqueville's famous journey across the United States to see what has changed over the past two centuries. Starting from the East Coast then across and down the entire country, he joins Leslie Vinjamuri to discuss what those conversations reveal about the state of American democracy today.
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NATO's Most Complicated Member: Turkey
Turkey is playing an increasingly important role inside NATO, but its relationships with Russia, Europe, and the United States are more complicated than ever. Brookings Institution's Aslı Aydıntaşbaş joins Leslie Vinjamuri to discuss President Trump's relationship with President Erdoğan, Turkey's balancing act between Russia and the West, and what Ankara's growing influence means for NATO, transatlantic security, and US foreign policy.
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Can America Still Lead at 250 — Or Is the World Moving On?
As the United States marks 250 years of independence, its allies are reassessing America's role in the world. Journalist and military historian Mark Urban joins Leslie Vinjamuri to discuss US foreign policy, NATO, Europe's security, growing competition with China, and what America's changing role could mean for the international order in the years ahead.
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DEEP DISH LIVE: David Sanger on Trump's Phone Call, Iran Deal, and What Comes Next
In this special Deep Dish LIVE episode, Leslie Vinjamuri sits down with New York Times White House and National Security Correspondent, David Sanger, who recently spoke with President Trump about the Iran deal. Together, they unpack how the United States got to this moment with Iran, what the deal does and doesn't accomplish, and what to watch next for the Middle East, US foreign policy, and America's role in the world. Prefer to watch? The full live conversation is available on our YouTube channel.
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Summer Davos: What does China Want?
China's annual Summer Davos meeting comes at a complicated moment: consumer demand is weak, manufacturing is booming, and tensions with the United States and Europe are rising. Simon Rabinovitch, Beijing bureau chief at The Economist, discusses how China sees the global economy, why businesses continue to engage with China, and what Beijing ultimately wants.
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Can the G7 Deliver on Economic Security?
Economic security has become a major focus ahead of next week's G7 summit in France. A rare call between G7 leaders and China, convened by President Macron, underscores just how central the issue is. Governments are looking for ways to strengthen supply chains, secure access to critical minerals, and reduce economic risks. But at a time of growing geopolitical tensions, can they make meaningful progress? Dr. Mathieu Duchâtel of the Institut Montaigne explains why economic security has risen to the top of the agenda, where allies stand on China, and whether this moment can generate results.
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Rise of Middle Powers: 'A New Order Is Gradually Being Born'
The world's great powers still dominate the headlines, but they may not be the only countries shaping what comes next within the international order. Anne-Marie Slaughter joins Deep Dish to discuss the rise of middle powers, the future of global cooperation, and why she believes a new order may already be taking shape.z
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Is the US Entering a New Era of Global Power?
Can America's allies still count on the United States? As the Trump administration pulls troops from Europe and reshapes America's defense strategy, former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Michèle Flournoy explains what's changing and what's at stake. From China and Taiwan to NATO, AI warfare, and the ongoing Iran conflict, she breaks down how America's shifting priorities could reshape global security for years to come.
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Why Trump Took America's Top Tech CEOs to China
President Trump brought some of America's biggest tech leaders—including Elon Musk, Tim Cook, and Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang—to Beijing for a high-stakes summit with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. Council on Foreign Relations' Chris McGuire explains what the talks revealed about AI, export controls, and why the fight over advanced AI chips is becoming one of the most important national security issues facing the US.
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What China Really Thinks About America Right Now
As Trump and Xi meet for a high-stakes summit amid rising tensions over trade, technology, and Taiwan, the US-China relationship is entering another uncertain phase. Stanford University's Oriana Skylar Mastro explains what China ultimately wants, why Beijing may view the United States as increasingly distracted, and what the summit could mean for the future balance of power.
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Is the Quad Fracturing as US Priorities Shift?
The Quad was meant to anchor stability in the Indo-Pacific—a way for the United States, India, Japan, and Australia to stay aligned in a rapidly changing region. But shifting US priorities under the second Trump administration are putting it to the test. Derek Grossman of the Center for a New American Security explains how countries across Asia are adapting, what it means for the Quad, and where US alliances could be headed next.
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The Most Surprising Success Stories Around the World Right Now
There seems to be no shortage of global challenges, from aging populations to political gridlocks to immigration. But solutions are emerging in unexpected places. John Kampfner, author of Braver New World, shares what he discovered traveling to 10 countries, including Japan, Estonia, and India, in search of ideas that are actually working. A self-described former "professional pessimist," he explores what countries can learn from each other and what's standing in the way.
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Is China Quietly Winning the Iran War?
The war with Iran isn't just a Middle East story anymore. As attacks on ships in the Strait of Hormuz disrupt global energy markets, the economic impacts are being felt by Europe, the United States, and especially the Indo-Pacific. Does the ongoing conflict provide a strategic opening for China? And how is India navigating this new era of complicated alliances? James Crabtree, distinguished fellow in the Asia program at the European Council on Foreign Relations, breaks it down.
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Is International Law Built for Today's Wars?
As the US-Israel war on Iran continues, the international rules, laws, and norms meant to govern it are collapsing and being rewritten. Does international law still matter? And how are modern conflicts reshaping accountability and impunity? Former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour breaks down what's changing, whether laws and norms are eroding, and if these don't hold—what comes next.
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The Cost of Trump's Pressure Campaign on Cuba
As the United States tightens sanctions and cuts off oil to Cuba, the island is facing deepening economic and humanitarian strain. President Trump has signaled he wants regime change, but what would that actually mean for Cuba, its people, and the region? María de los Angeles Torres of the University of Illinois Chicago unpacks the real impact of US pressure, why sanctions may be backfiring, and what could happen if this crisis deepens.
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Is the Middle East Heading Toward a Much Bigger War?
"This is no longer an Iran war. This is a region-wide war." Fawaz Gerges, of the London School of Economics and Political Science, explains why he believes the conflict has expanded far beyond Iran, what Israel is trying to achieve in Lebanon, and why the search for security may be driving the Middle East toward deeper instability.
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From Oil to Food: How the Iran War Could Disrupt Global Stability
Gas prices may be the first way Americans feel the war in Iran, but Catherine Bertini, former executive director of the United Nations World Food Programme, and Michael Werz of the Council on Foreign Relations explain why the deeper impact could unfold across global food systems—where rising energy costs and supply chain disruptions could drive prices higher, worsen hunger, intensify humanitarian pressures, and destabilize vulnerable regions far beyond Iran.
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Trump, Iran, and the Future of American Power
Trump said he would stop wars, not start them. But as the conflict with Iran widens, that promise is under strain. Matt Duss of the Center for International Policy explores what this moment reveals about presidential war powers, the limits of military force, and what this war could mean for the next chapter of US foreign policy.
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War with Iran: What the World Debated in New Delhi
Just days after US and Israeli strikes on Iran, global leaders gathered in New Delhi for the Raisina Dialogue. As tensions escalated, conversations quickly shifted to urgent questions about war, energy shocks, and the future of the global order. Harsh Pant of the Observer Research Foundation and Karim Haggag of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute unpack how the world is reading the Iran conflict and where it could be headed next.
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Are We Headed for a Bigger War with Iran?
US and Israeli strikes on Iran have triggered retaliation across the region, with drones, missiles, grounded flights, and rising oil prices. But what's the actual goal? Is this a short, decisive campaign or the start of something bigger? And if the fighting stops, does the region return to normal or just settle into a tense pause before the next round? From Tel Aviv, former US Ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro breaks down what the US and Israel are trying to achieve, the risks involved, and why the outcome is far from clear.
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The West Under Pressure: Inside Munich 2026
Ukraine, China, and Iran are shaking up the world—but at the Munich Security Conference, the West seemed to be worrying about itself. Amid simmering transatlantic tensions, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio got a standing ovation, but was it real reassurance or just the same talking points, dressed up? The Observer's Giles Whittell and ECFR's Dr. Jana Puglierin break down the conference's most revealing moments and what Europe is really thinking.
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Can Europe Stand Without the US?
Europe is rethinking its security as the US signals it may not always be a reliable partner. Ahead of the Munich Security Conference, countries are scrambling to rearm, diversify partnerships, and protect their interests. Can Europe stand on its own, or will it stay tied to the US? Georgina Wright from the German Marshall Fund and Sophia Besch from the Carnegie Endowment break it down.
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Is the West Ready for an Asian Century?
As China and India rise, power in the Indo-Pacific is shifting fast, and the world is feeling it. Former Singaporean diplomat Kishore Mahbubani puts it bluntly: "the era of Western domination of world history is over." Along with Avinash Paliwal of SOAS, they unpack how the region views this shift, whether President Trump's second term has sped it up, and what it means for America's place in the world.
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Davos Shockwaves: Moments That Sparked Bigger Questions
The World Economic Forum doesn't always deliver clear answers—but this year, it delivered drama and tension. From President Trump's speech to Europe's pushback and a rare standing ovation, a few moments stood out. What do they tell us about America's relationships with its allies? Leslie Vinjamuri talks it through with Martin Wolf and Sir Robin Niblett, straight from Davos.
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How the World Is Reading US Power
One year into US President Donald Trump's second term, the administration has outlined a vision of US preeminence in the Western Hemisphere and sharper competition with China. Ryan Hass of the Brookings Institution and Emma Ashford of the Stimson Center examine Washington's recent strategy and discuss how it is playing out from Europe to China—and what the rest of the world is making of it.
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Iran Protests: Can the Regime Survive
Protests are spreading across Iran, and reports suggest violent crackdowns and a rising death toll. So what's driving this moment, and how does it differ from protests Iran has seen before? Journalist Azadeh Moaveni and Chatham House expert Sanam Vakil break down what's fueling the unrest, how power really works inside Iran, and what might come next.
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Europe's Security Wake-Up Call
From US pressure over Greenland to high-stakes peace talks on Ukraine, long-standing assumptions about Europe's security are being tested. The Economist's defense editor Shashank Joshi explains how Europe is recalibrating its approach to defense, what this pivotal moment means, and why there may be no return to the old normal.
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Trump's First Year Back: What Stood Out
The past year has made one thing clear: this version of Trump on the world stage is different. From the Caribbean to Europe to America's own institutions, familiar rules don't feel so fixed anymore. The Guardian's Jonathan Freedland looks back at the moments that defined Trump's year so far and why the next one could be even more dramatic.
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Human Rights in Retreat? Kenneth Roth Weighs In
Human Rights Day lands as conflict is rising and accountability is fading. Big-power tensions are shaking old norms, and new technologies are changing the rules. So, are human rights in retreat—or is this just a familiar cycle? Kenneth Roth, former head of Human Rights Watch, helps us make sense of it.
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Can the U.S. Keep Its Edge on the Battlefield?
Defense is evolving fast—AI, drones, cyber threats, and autonomous weapons. The U.S. has led for decades, but China is closing in. Former Deputy Secretary of Defense Kath Hicks breaks down how the Pentagon is adapting, where it's falling behind, and what's at stake.
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Can a Ceasefire Stop Sudan's Crisis?
Sudan is now the world's largest humanitarian crisis—bigger than Gaza and Ukraine combined—yet it remains one of the least covered and least funded. Martin Griffiths, former UN Under‑Secretary‑General for Humanitarian Affairs, explains why a ceasefire has remained out of reach and whether global pressure can still make a difference.
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Inside Trump's National Security Playbook
President Trump's second-term national security strategy is coming, and it could reshape U.S. foreign policy from China to Europe to the Middle East. Nadia Schadlow, former Deputy National Security Advisor and architect of Trump's original Strategy, breaks down what's changed, what's stayed the same, and what it all means for allies and rivals under Trump 2.0.
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Are Changing Demographics the Next Global Power Shift?
East Asia's biggest powers are getting older — and smaller. China, Japan, and South Korea are seeing shrinking workforces and aging populations, with fewer young people to fill their armies or their factories. Andrew Oros, author of Asia's Aging Security, and public opinion expert Craig Kafura discuss how population decline is changing East Asia and whether technology could help fill the gap.
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The Arctic Is Heating Up. So Is the Competition to Control It
The Arctic's heating up—literally and politically. Melting ice is turning a once-remote region into a stage for global power. Experts Kenneth Rosen and Anna Wieslander unpack how Russia, China, NATO, and the US are all racing for influence, and why what happens up there could shape the rest of the world.
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Trump—Canada's Friend or Foe?
Tensions between Canada and the US are back in the headlines after new tariffs followed a controversial Ottawa ad. Experts Roland Paris and Robert Howse break down how Canada's new Prime Minister, Mark Carney, is navigating this turbulent moment and what it means for Canada's economy, identity, and role on the world stage.
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What's Behind Trump's Venezuela Shift?
After months of diplomatic outreach, President Trump has abruptly shifted course on Venezuela—from covert CIA operations and expanded military activity in the Caribbean, to publicly backing Venezuela's opposition leader. Is this a crackdown on drugs and migration, or part of a broader strategy reshaping US policy in South America? Economist Francisco Rodríguez explains the political, economic, and human stakes of Washington's evolving approach.
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Inside China's Global Ambitions
China's next move could reshape the global balance of power. As tensions spike over trade, tech, and alliances, the world is watching closely. Georgetown professor Evan Medeiros explains what's coming next and why it matters.
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Russia's Drones, Europe on Edge
Russian drones are crossing European skies, testing NATO while US focus shifts elsewhere. Charles Kupchan and Constanze Stelzenmüller unpack Russia's strategy, the risks for Ukraine, and what it means for the future of the transatlantic alliance.
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What Trump's Peace Plan Means for Israel and Hamas
Nearly two years after the Hamas attacks, President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu are pushing a 20-point plan to end the Gaza war. Experts Steven Cook and Sanam Vakil say the terms essentially demand Hamas' surrender—so is peace possible, and what does this mean for the future of regional stability and alliances? They join Deep Dish to debate the deal and what it reveals about shifting American power in the Middle East.
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80th Birthday Blues: UN's Fight to Stay Relevant
As the United Nations turns 80, it faces a legitimacy crisis fueled by budget cuts, global crises, and a United States President that is antagonistic toward the institution. This week's UNGA highlights the stakes: What is the future US role on the global stage? Can the UN still deliver in a fractured world? Will a woman be the next UN Secretary General? Longtime UN insiders Corinne Momal-Vanian and Richard Gowan discuss.
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Why Trump's State Visit Could Shape the UK's Next Chapter
President Trump's state visit comes at a precarious time for Britain: weak growth, political turbulence, and pressure to reset its ties with the EU. With Prime Minister Keir Starmer forging a strategic bond with Trump, what's next for the US-UK relationship? New York Times London Bureau Chief Mark Landler explains what lies ahead.
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Why Dambisa Moyo Thinks This Economic Moment is Different
From slowing growth, tariffs and widening inequality, the rules of the global economy are being rewritten and affecting us all. Baroness Dambisa Moyo shares her insights on the forces driving this new reality and what it means for countries, leaders, and citizens alike.
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Jan Egeland on Syria's Defining Moment and a Humanitarian Reset
Syria's war may have faded from the headlines, but for millions of refugees, the crisis is far from over. Jan Egeland, head of the Norwegian Refugee Council, explains why global aid is failing and what the world must do now to fix it. From Gaza to Syria, he shares how to reset a broken system and rebuild hope as the UN turns 80.
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Why Beating China Might Be the U.S.' Wrong Focus
Almost every conversation about China is framed as an all-out competition—but expert Jessica Chen Weiss argues that reflexive rivalry is making America weaker, not stronger. She breaks down why resilience matters more than dominance, how strategic integration protects US interests, and why "beating" China shouldn't be the ultimate goal.
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The US and Europe Unite with Ukraine—What Comes Next?
As Ukraine calls for security and support, world leaders juggle high-stakes negotiations and competing interests. Alexander Cooley and Alex Dukalskis, authors of Dictating the Agenda: The Authoritarian Resurgence in World Politics, unpack how authoritarian strategies are influencing the talks and argue that negotiating peace isn't just about stopping the fighting—it's about who walks away with the leverage.
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Is India Under Pressure to Pick a Side?
India's rise is undeniable—but so are the roadblocks. With President Trump threatening to double tariffs over Russian oil imports and China on its doorstep, can the world's largest democracy maintain its strategic autonomy? Foreign Policy's Ravi Agrawal and University of Chicago's Raghuram Rajan explore. Reading List: Facts about Indians in the U.S., Pew Research Center, May 1, 2025
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Trump's Tariffs: Can Global Trade Survive the Shock?
A fresh round of reciprocal tariffs from President Trump has rattled markets and prompted concern over the future of trade. As uncertainty grows for businesses, consumers, and governments alike, two leading experts, Brent Neiman of the University of Chicago and David Henig of the European Centre for International Political Economy, join Deep Dish to unpack the implications for the global economic system.
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Is Gaza's Hunger Crisis Driving the World to Recognize a Palestinian State?
Starvation is spreading in Gaza—not because of a lack of aid, but because humanitarian access is being blocked. Former UN World Food Programme Executive Director and Council Distinguished Fellow Ertharin Cousin joins Deep Dish to analyze how the crisis is fueling a broader diplomatic reckoning, with more nations moving toward recognition of a Palestinian state. Related: Americans Grow More Divided on US Support for Israel, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, May 15, 2025
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Deep Dish on Global Affairs helps you make sense of our rapidly changing world. Join host Leslie Vinjamuri, President and CEO of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, as she speaks with thought leaders, journalists, and experts shaping foreign policy and global events. Together, they go beyond the headlines, explaining how events unfolded, why they matter, and what to watch for. Can global trade survive the shock of Trump's tariffs? What's behind the global race for AI dominance? New episodes every Thursday.Learn more at https://globalaffairs.org/deep-dish
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