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Does the Bible say THAT?!?
by David Lester
All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.
Episodes
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SERMON: Come and Follow Jesus (Mark 1:16-18/ Mark 10-17-22)
Host Dave Lester preaches a sermon at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on 09/13/2026. The sermon is within the series: "Come to Me: The Invitations & Questions of Jesus" and is specifically titled: "Come and Follow". He speaks on the power of Jesus to transform people's lives when they let go…
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035: The Birth of Isaac: Stefani McDade (Genesis 21:1-7)
Stefani McDade of The Roys Report (formerly with Christianity Today as a writer and editor) joins the podcast with Mike Mason and Dave Lester to talk about her forthcoming book: Unveiled Faces: Reflecting Jesus in a World that Distorts His Image (Out in the Spring of 2027 through InterVarsity...
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034: Deja Vu in the Kingdom of Abimelek (Genesis 20)
Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester analyze the text of Genesis chapter 20 where Abraham and Sarah find themselves in the land of Gerar. Abraham says Sarah is his sister and King Abimelek moves to make Sarah a part of his harem. Have we seen this movie before? Why does Abraham continue to…
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033: The Trauma of Lot and his Daughters: Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:30-38)
Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome multi-time return guest, Kayla Jentes, back on the show to talk about Lot and his daughters living in a cave. Lot is afraid in the city of Zoar so he and his daughters flee to a cave in the mountains. It is there that Lot's daughters hatch a plot to...
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032: Judgment at Sodom and Gomorrah (Part 2): Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:12-29)
Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome back Kayla Jentes to walk through the rest of the Sodom and Gomorrah judgment. We end up talking a great deal about Lot's character, his relationship to God and his actions while fleeing the city that he had lived in with his family. We also discuss the...
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SERMON: The Meaning of Life in the Garden of Eden
Host Dave Lester preached about the meaning of life and the Garden of Eden at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on May 31, 2026. Church website: https://ckpres.org/ Sources Used for this Episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15…
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031: Judgment at Sodom and Gomorrah (Part 1): Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:1-11)
Co-Hosts Dave Lester and Mike Mason are joined again by Kayla Jentes to walk through the Sodom and Gomorrah account in Genesis 19. Going long because the chapter is so filled with information, the trio only explored through verse 11. They talk about the 2 angels visiting Sodom and Lot's...
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030: Sarah's Laughter/ Abraham's Bargaining: Kayla Jentes (Genesis 18)
Theologian and chiropractor Kayla Jentes joins Dave and Mike to discuss Genesis 18. We talk about the 3 strangers that came to visit Abraham and Sarah where the couple performs radical acts of hospitality. We also chat about Sarah's famous laugh from the tent and everything that means given what…
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029: Everything You Wanted to Know About Circumcision But Were Afraid to Ask: Pastor Jeffrey Prager (Genesis 17)
Everything you wanted to know about circumcision but were afraid to ask. Co-hosts Dave Lester and Mike Mason welcome guest, Pastor Jeffrey Prager, to walk through perhaps the pinnacle of the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis 17. God says the sign of the covenant will be circumcision for the males....
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SERMON: The Open Door (Revelation 3:7-13)
In this special episode, host Dave Lester preaches a sermon on Revelation 3:7-13 (the church of Philadelphia) walking through the passage and reminding listeners that Jesus holds the key of David and is the exclusive One that can open and close the door. Church website: https://ckpres.org/…
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028: Hagar and the God Who Sees: Liz Charlotte Grant (Genesis 16)
Author Liz Charlotte Grant joins the podcast to discuss the account of Hagar in Genesis 16. We dive deep into Hagar's abuse at the hands of Abram and Sarai, her fleeing into the desert and her encounter with the Angel of the Lord. Liz Charlotte Grant also talks about her debut book "Knock at the...
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SPECIAL: Merry Christmas 2025 (Reuben Lester Returns)
Reuben Lester returns! Host Dave Lester and his son talk about Christmas memories, their favorites Christmas songs and movies and the birth of Jesus. They read from the Gospel of Matthew and Luke. Sources used for this Episode: *The NIrV Adventure Bible for Early Readers. Published by ZonderKidz...
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SERMON: Christ Who Strengthens Us (Philippians 4:10-20)
This is a sermon host Dave Lester preached at Central Valley Presbyterian Church on November 23rd, 2025. He speaks on the closing credits of Philippians 4:10-20 including the Apostle Paul's contentment in all circumstances and his statement about how believers can do all things through Him who...
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027: The Haunted Dream of Abram: Laura Pugh (Genesis 15:12-21)
Host Dave Lester and his friend Mike Mason are joined by Laura Pugh- a wife, a mother, a teacher and an advocate for the least of these- to talk about Genesis 15:12-21. The first half of Genesis 15 involved a beautiful vision of Abram's descendants being as numerous as the night time sky. Now…
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SPECIAL: Eucontamination and Disgust Theology: Billie Hoard and Dr. Paul Hoard
Dave Lester is joined by authors Billie Hoard (a previous guest on the "Drunk and Naked Noah" episode) and Dr. Paul Hoard (his literal neighbor down the street) to chat about their new book: "Eucontamination: Digust Theology and the Christian Life". The book is an intersection between theological...
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SPECIAL: Charlie Kirk, Speech and Political Violence
Host Dave Lester talks about the horrific murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. He also plays Charlie Kirk's ugly comments regarding race, DEI, affirmative action and more that have been called out by many people including the black community and black pastors. Analysis is offered…
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026: Under the Night Time Sky with God: Mike Mason (Genesis 15:1-11)
Host Dave Lester is joined again by long time friend, Mike Mason, to discuss Genesis chapter 15:1-11. We chat about Abram challenging God over his childless status. Then God makes a huge promise to Abram while ushering him outside on a clear night. The promise: Abram's descendants would be as...
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SPECIAL: Thinking About the Bible Part 1: Writings and Canonization
On this special episode, host Dave Lester discusses the religious impulse in humanity to create sacred Scriptures (documents that human beings for a very long time have considered inspired by God). From that foundation, Dave gives a general survey as to when the books of the Bible were written…
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SPECIAL: My Cancer Journey (I think Everything Will be OK)
Having quite the challenging year, host Dave Lester shares about his cancer diagnosis and his journey (so far) this year. He also shares some reflections about faith and a Bible passage in Acts 17 that he has thought about. Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong
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SPECIAL: Three Voices on the Bible
On this special episode of the podcast, host Dave Lester discusses 3 author's thoughts and views of the Bible. Sources used for this episode: *The Bible by Karen Armstrong *The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God: Why New Atheism Grew Old and Secular Thinkers are Considering Christianity Again by...
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SPECIAL: Bible Stories and Favorite Verses: Reuben Lester
On this special episode, Dave Lester is joined by his son, Reuben! There is talk of favorite Bible stories, what kinds of Bibles Reuben reads and his favorite verse. It was so much fun! Sources used for this episode: *The NIrV Adventure Bible for Early Readers by Lawrence O Richards *The Action...
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025: Abram's Night Time Raid: Brent Rood (Genesis 14:13-24)
Host Dave Lester is joined by his friend and former pastor, Brent Rood, to discuss the Lot kidnapping situation and Abram springing into action for the rescue. Abram leads 318 men on a daring night time raid against kings and their armies around the Dead Sea. Brent also discusses his background…
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024: Ancient Warring in the Tar Pits: Mike Mason (Genesis 14:1-12)
Dave Lester is again joined by Mike Mason and they explore the strange text of Genesis 14 which involves two different alliances of kings going to war with one another around the Dead Sea. And then there are tar pits! And Lot is kidnapped! Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application...
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SERMON: The Song Of The Sea (Exodus 15:1-6)
This episode is a sermon that Dave Lester preached at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on April 27th, 2025. The message was on Exodus 15:1-6 which is an ancient song that Israelites sang after being delivered from slavery in Egypt and crossing the Red Sea. Website for the church:...
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SPECIAL: Engaging Bart Ehrman's book How Jesus Became God
In this special episode, Dave Lester talks about Dr. Bart Ehrman's book "How Jesus Became God" which he is currently reading (at the time of recording). He gives a brief bio of Dr. Ehrman and engages his ideas about Jesus' deity and resurrection. Sources used for this episode: *How Jesus Became...
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SPECIAL: The Shadow of Violence: A Good Friday Reflection (Matthew 26:47-52)
On this special episode, Dave Lester shares a reflection that he gave on Good Friday at his church (Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church). It was a reflection that was part of a larger presentation remembering Jesus Christ's death on the cruel cross. The reflection was based on Matthew 26:47-52…
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023: A Separation in the Promised Land: Mike Mason (Genesis 13:10-18)
Abram and Lot officially separate with Lot moving eastward toward Sodom and Gomorrah and Abram staying within the promised land. Mike Mason joins me to discuss the conflict between Abram and Lot and some geography in this ancient Biblical land. Special thanks to AD Riddle for insight he provided…
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SERMON: Seeing God's Kingdom Among the World's Empires (Exodus 2:15-25)
Dave preached a sermon at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on January 26, 2025 out of Exodus 2:15-25. Info on Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church: https://ckpres.org/ Sources used for the sermon: *Word Biblical Commentary: Exodus by John I. Durham *The JPS Torah Commentary: Exodus by Nahum Sarna...
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022: The Fight of Abram and Lot with Mike Mason (Genesis 13:1-9)
Returning guest Mike Mason and I talk about Abram, Sarai, Lot and their caravan coming back up out of Egypt to the promised land. There is a dispute between Abram and Lot which leads an amicable separation. Go to the right! Go to the left! Or vice versa! Sources used for this episode: *The NIV...
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SPECIAL: Christmas Reflection 2024
Host Dave Lester shares a Christmas reflection for the season of 2024 while quoting from the final book by Rachel Held Evans called "Wholehearted Faith". Sources used for this episode: *Wholehearted Faith by Rachel Held Evans (with Jeff Chu) Opening Music: "The Gift of St. Cecilia" Jars of Clay...
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SERMON: Foolishness to the Gentiles (Acts 26)
In this episode, Dave Lester shares a sermon he preached out of Acts 26 at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on November 17, 2024. The message highlighted the Apostle Paul preaching an inclusive gospel of transformation that is foolishness to the Gentiles. Sources used for this message: *The New...
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021: Fleeing to Egypt: Mary Hoard (Genesis 12:10-20)
Children's Director at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church, Mary Hoard, joins the podcast to talk about Abram and Sarai fleeing to Egypt because of a severe famine. We dive into the bizarre and disturbing plan of Abram's to pretend that Sarai was his sister so he would not be killed in Egypt. What...
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020: The Abrahamic Covenant with Ryan Egli (Genesis 12:1-9)
Pastor Ryan Egli of City Line Church in Philadelphia joins the podcast to talk about the call of Abram. We discuss Abram, Sarai, Lot and their caravan leaving comfortable surroundings for the unknown land of Canaan. We also dive deep into the Abrahamic covenant and how this seismic theological…
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019: The Origin of Abram (Genesis 11:27-32)
This episode chronicles the origin story of Abram (who will become Abraham), a major religious figure in history. We observe Abram's beginnings via his father Terah. The family was from Ur of the Chaldeans (not quite sure where that is), leave for Canaan (don't know why), and settle in Harran...
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SERMON: Pushing Back Against Death (Acts 9:32-43)
In this special episode, Dave Lester shares a sermon he preached at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on July 28, 2024. The passage was Acts 9:32-43 which has Peter healing Aeneas and Dorcas and an early church community pushing back against death. Visit CK Pres' website right here:...
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018: What's In A Name? Shem's Genealogy (Genesis 11:10-26)
More Genealogy! One cannot read through Genesis without stumbling upon ancient genealogies recording Israelite history as people who lived a long time ago recorded names that meant a lot to their culture and faith. This episode focuses on Shem's genealogy recorded after the Tower of Babel in...
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SPECIAL: Interpreting the Genesis Creation Account
Host Dave Lester spoke at "The Word and the World: Science and the Christian Life" conference in Kitsap County on Saturday, June 8th, 2024. He did a breakout session talking about "Interpreting the Genesis Creation Account" and also discussed the interpretative lenses we have been handed from a...
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017: The Tower of Babel with Mike Mason (Genesis 11:1-9)
Guest Mike Mason joins Dave Lester to discuss the epic but sparse account of the Tower of Babel. They talk about how surprisingly subversive the story is to, perhaps, Babylonian gods of the ancient near east in favor of the true God- Yahweh. Special guests Josh Tyra and Munir William Fahmy read…
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016: The Table of Nations (Genesis 10:1-32)
More names. More genealogy. A lot of geography. Dave tackles the Table of Nations chronicling people groups from Shem, Ham and Japheth spreading out from the ancient near east. Dave spends a fair amount of time discussing the outlier of Nimrod being included in this genealogy. Plus, a very…
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015: Drunk and Naked Noah with Billie Hoard (Genesis 9:1-29)
The gnarly and wild chapter of Genesis chapter 9 is tackled with help from the wonderful Billie Hoard. Dave and Billie talk about the rainbow sign included in the Noahic covenant, capital punishment, drunk and naked Noah, the curse of Ham, and how the Bible can be weaponized to harm people when...
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014: The Genesis Flood Part 3 (Genesis 8:1-22)
Continuing on with the flood account, Dave walks listeners through God's judgment winding down. The waters begin to recede. A world is re-created. Noah sends out birds. God smells the pleasing aroma of a burnt sacrifice. Sources used for this episode: *The New International Commentary on the Old...
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SPECIAL: The Futile Quest for Noah's Ark
In this special episode which is complimentary to going through the account of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood located in Genesis 6-9, host Dave Lester discusses how churches teach about Noah's Ark, talks about varying views on the scope of the great deluge and goes into detail about the truly…
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SPECIAL: Darren Aronofsky's Noah Movie with Eli Price
On this special episode, Eli Price joins Dave Lester to chat about Darren Aronofsky's Noah movie which came out in 2014. Listen to Eli Price's podcast right here: https://www.establishingshotpod.com/ Watch the preview for the Noah movie right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdu10cX3pWA...
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013: The Genesis Flood Part 2 with Eli Price (Genesis 7:1-24)
The Genesis Flood account part two! Eli Price (from The Establishing Shot podcast) joins me to talk about this main section of one of the most famous disaster stories of all time. We talk about the scope of the flood, clean and unclean animals and more. Plus, Eli talks about his podcast "The...
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SERMON: Outcast Sermon on Luke 7:36-50
In this special episode, host Dave Lester shares a sermon on Luke 7:36-50 that he preached at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on January 28, 2024. Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church website: http://www.ckpc.org/ Sources for this episode (Sermon): *The New Testament In Its World: An…
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012: The Genesis Flood Part 1 with Tyler Kirkpatrick (Genesis 6:9-22)
After the weird start to Genesis 6, Dave Lester and Pastor Tyler Kirkpatrick wrestle with part 1 of the Genesis Flood in the Scriptures. They discuss the character of Noah, the problem of evil (including the question of why God would want to wipe out a creation that God had previously called…
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011: Sons of God and Nephilim with Lee Compson (Genesis 6:1-8)
In the prelude to the Great Flood story, we encounter the "sons of God" marrying the daughters of men as well as the Nephilim. Plus God repents of making humanity and declares God is going to send a great flood? Who are the sons of God? Who are the Nephilim? What does it mean that God repented?...
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SPECIAL: A Christmas Reflection
Merry Christmas! Thank you so much for listening to this podcast! In this special episode, Dave Lester gives a Christmas reflection while drawing back to the account of the first Christmas and what that can mean for us today. Sources used for this episode: *The Jesus I Never Knew by Philip Yancey...
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SPECIAL: How to (Not) Solve the Problem of Evil
On this special episode, host Dave Lester discusses the problem of evil called the nastiest question that theists have to deal with. He talks about how the problem of evil is philosophically formulated, how people of faith respond to the challenge of theodicy and ends talking with Terrence…
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010: Genealogy Gone Wild (Genesis 5:1-32)
On this episode, Dave tackles a big, long genealogy in Genesis chapter 5. Lots of names. Lots of begetting. From Adam to Noah, Dave unpacks the passage and dives into two major questions: how did people in the Bible live so long (900+ years in most cases in this chapter)? Also, are there gaps or...
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All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.
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