ETCH with Chuck Peters

What does it take to help the next generation develop a faith that endures long after they leave home?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters is joined by Paul Worcester for a practical and encouraging conversation about preparing students for lifelong discipleship. Together, they explore what it means to build a faith that remains rooted in Christ through the transitions of high school, college, and adulthood.Paul shares insights on helping young people establish their identity in Christ, navigate seasons of doubt with confidence, pursue personal holiness, and find freedom from anxiety and shame through the hope of the gospel. The conversation emphasizes that lasting faith isn't built on cultural comfort or emotional experiences but on a deep, personal relationship with Jesus.The years after graduation can be some of the most formative in a young person's spiritual journey. This conversation offers biblical encouragement and practical wisdom for helping the next generation remain faithful to Christ through every season of life.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast for more conversations that equip church leaders to disciple the next generation with biblical wisdom, cultural awareness, and practical ministry insight.SHOW LINKS:Thrive - College Bible StudyRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Generation Alpha is growing up in a world unlike any generation before them. From artificial intelligence to constant digital connection, today's kids are being shaped by technology in ways that present both incredible opportunities and significant discipleship challenges.In this special crossover episode, Chuck Peters from the ETCH Next Gen Podcast joins Jana Magruder from Kids Ministry Calling for a timely conversation about understanding and discipling Generation Alpha. Along with Dr. Shelly Melia and Shane Pruitt, they explore what makes this generation unique, how technology and AI are influencing their worldview, and how churches and families can faithfully prepare them to follow Jesus in an increasingly complex culture.Whether you're serving in kids ministry, student ministry, or leading your family at home, this episode offers practical insights to help you engage Generation Alpha with intentionality, biblical truth, and relational discipleship.As the first generation to grow up with AI woven into everyday life, Generation Alpha needs leaders who understand both their world and the unchanging truth of the gospel. This conversation will encourage and equip you to disciple the next generation with confidence and hope.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast and Kids Ministry Calling for more conversations that help church leaders and parents disciple the next generation with biblical wisdom, practical ministry insights, and gospel-centered encouragement.SHOW LINKS: Reaching Gen Alpha by Dr. Shelly Melia and Shane Pruitt Kids Ministry Calling Podcast with Jana Magruder Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters sits down with Zac Workun to talk about the value of pursuing formal education in ministry and why lifelong learning matters for leaders who want to serve the next generation well.Zac shares practical wisdom on balancing school, ministry, work, and family while pursuing continued education. Together, Chuck and Zac explore how formal education can strengthen a leader’s ministry skills, deepen theological understanding, and provide opportunities for personal and professional growth.Whether you’re considering going back to school, currently working toward a degree, or simply looking for ways to keep growing as a ministry leader, this conversation offers encouragement and practical insight for making lifelong learning part of your ministry journey.SHOW LINKS:Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

How can the church faithfully respond to questions of gender and sexual identity with both biblical truth and Christlike compassion?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters sits down with Kyla Gillespie to hear her powerful story of discovering her true identity in Christ. Through her personal journey, Kyla offers hope for anyone wrestling with questions of identity while equipping ministry leaders and parents to engage these conversations with wisdom, grace, and conviction.Together, Chuck and Kyla discuss the importance of building genuine relationships, leading with compassion, and speaking biblical truth in a way that reflects the heart of Jesus. Rather than reducing people to issues, they emphasize seeing every person as someone deeply loved by God and worthy of dignity, care, and discipleship.This episode is a thoughtful reminder that while culture continues to shift, the gospel offers lasting hope, true identity, and transforming grace for every person.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast for more conversations that equip church leaders to disciple the next generation with biblical wisdom, cultural awareness, and practical ministry insight.SHOW LINKS: Transformed by Kyla GillespieRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Artificial intelligence is changing the way we learn, communicate, and relate to one another. But what does it mean for discipleship?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters sits down with Dr. Josh Straub to explore how AI is shaping the next generation and what ministry leaders and parents need to understand as technology continues to transform everyday life. Together, they discuss the opportunities and challenges AI presents, the importance of authentic relationships in a digital world, and why spiritual formation must remain deeply personal.As technology becomes increasingly integrated into the lives of children and students, this conversation offers practical wisdom for helping the next generation develop discernment, pursue meaningful relationships, and build a faith that remains rooted in Christ rather than shaped by algorithms.Whether you're a parent, pastor, kids ministry leader, or student ministry leader, this conversation will equip you to think biblically about technology while keeping discipleship centered on relationships and the life-changing hope of the gospel.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast for more conversations that help church leaders disciple the next generation with biblical wisdom, cultural awareness, and practical ministry insight.SHOW LINKS: Connect with Dr. Josh StraubRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Healthy ministry begins with a healthy heart.In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters welcomes Tasha Calvert for a thoughtful conversation about the importance of personal holiness in the life of every ministry leader. Together, they explore why spiritual formation isn't just preparation for ministry—it is the foundation of faithful leadership.Tasha shares practical encouragement for cultivating daily habits that draw leaders closer to Christ, emphasizing that holiness is not about perfection or performance but about becoming more like Jesus. The conversation also highlights the biblical call to live set apart, how our private walk with God shapes our public ministry, and why heart transformation ultimately impacts every relationship, decision, and leadership opportunity.Whether you're serving in kids ministry, student ministry, or leading the next generation in any capacity, this episode is a timely reminder that the most significant investment you can make in your ministry is your own walk with Christ.If you're longing to lead from a place of spiritual health and authentic faith, this conversation will encourage and challenge you to pursue Christ above everything else.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast for more conversations that equip church leaders to disciple the next generation with biblical wisdom and practical ministry insights.SHOW LINKS: Set Apart For More Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Why are so many young people walking away from their faith, and what can churches and families do to change that?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters sits down with Pastor Doug Hankins to discuss the realities facing today's students and the opportunities the church has to equip them for lifelong faith. Together, they explore the cultural shifts shaping the next generation, why faith retention is becoming increasingly difficult, and how intentional discipleship can help young people develop resilient, lasting faith.Rather than responding with fear, Doug encourages ministry leaders and parents to embrace the moment with confidence, creating environments where students can ask honest questions, build authentic relationships, and discover a faith that endures.Whether you serve in kids ministry, student ministry, or lead families in your church, this conversation offers practical encouragement and biblical wisdom for helping the next generation follow Christ with confidence.Subscribe to the ETCH Next Gen Podcast for more conversations that equip church leaders to disciple the next generation with truth, wisdom, and hope.SHOW LINKS: Still Single, Still CalledRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Somebody will hurt you in ministry. Sometimes it’s loud criticism, sometimes it’s quiet silence, and sometimes it’s the kind of misunderstanding that makes you wonder if leading is worth it. We sit down with Bible teacher, ministry leader, and author Yana Jenay Conner to talk about what to do when offense shows up inside the church and how to keep your heart soft when you’ve been wounded.Yana frames forgiveness as an act of faith and a spiritual battle for unity, drawing from Scripture to show why God calls us to release the debt and refuse retaliation. We dig into the hard questions ministry leaders actually face: How do I forgive when the other person never apologizes? How do I stop bitterness from becoming background noise that colors every relationship? How do I tell the difference between real sin and unmet expectations, personality clashes, or my own idols getting challenged?We also get practical and careful about safety. Forgiveness is not pretending you weren’t hurt, and it’s not the same as reconciliation or rebuilt trust.If you lead students, volunteers, or families, this conversation will give you language, clarity, and next steps for church conflict and reconciliation. Subscribe for more, share this with a teammate, and leave a review so more ministry leaders can find it.SHOW LINKS: Living Beyond Offense by Yana Jenay Conner Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

One background check can make us feel responsible, but it cannot make our church safe. We sit down with Kris Buckman to talk plainly about sexual abuse prevention and what Next Gen leaders can actually implement in kids ministry and student ministry without getting overwhelmed.We unpack why training has to come first, how awareness changes culture, and what grooming patterns and offender behaviors can look like in trusted environments. Kris explains why churches often miss the bigger picture when they treat prevention as a one-time checkbox, and he shares a simple framework built around five essentials: training, screening, protecting, reporting, and caring. We also point you to free resources at SBCabuseprevention.com, including templates and an Essentials Curriculum designed to give teams step-by-step next actions.Share this with a ministry teammate and leave a review so more churches build safer systems for kids and teens. What is the first policy or practice you need to update this month?Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

You can run every event on the calendar and still feel like discipleship is slipping through your fingers. That tension is at the heart of this conversation with Vic Green, co-author of Movement Ready Church. Chuck and Vick dig into a hard but freeing idea: disciple making is not a button you press, and it is not a program you tack on. A disciple-making movement starts with spiritual renewal. Vic explains why “every movement starts by not moving,” and we unpack what it looks like to step off the treadmill, trade self-reliance for prayerful dependence, and lead from the overflow of your relationship with Jesus. If you care about Gen Z ministry and Generation Alpha ministry, this is the foundation you cannot skip.If you’re ready to rebuild your discipleship plan around renewal, culture, and clarity, listen now, then subscribe, share this with a fellow next gen leader, and leave a review so more churches can find it. What’s one ministry “scoreboard” you’re ready to change?SHOW LINKS: The Movement-Ready ChurchRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What if one of the most powerful leadership tools you have isn't a strategy, curriculum, or program, but simply your presence?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Dr. Kimberly and Dr. Joe Beam share practical wisdom from years of ministry and leadership, exploring how intentionally showing up for others can transform your relationships, your team, and your ministry. Together, they discuss the importance of emotional safety, healthy communication, and team dynamics, offering actionable insights for leaders who serve kids, students, and families.Whether you're leading volunteers, partnering with parents, or building a ministry team, this conversation will challenge you to create environments where trust grows, people feel valued, and discipleship can flourish. You'll walk away with practical tools for leading with greater empathy, fostering stronger connections, and cultivating a ministry culture that reflects the heart of Christ.Tune in and discover how showing up intentionally may be the leadership shift your ministry needs most.Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

How can we help the next generation stand firm in a culture constantly shaping their beliefs, values, and identity?In this episode of the ETCH Next Gen Podcast, Chuck Peters sits down with author and Bible teacher Elizabeth Woodson to discuss her book, The Seven Habits of Resistance. Together, they explore the cultural pressures facing young people today—from social media-driven identity formation to the rise of individualism and self-centered definitions of truth, love, and success.Elizabeth shares practical insights on helping students and young adults recognize and resist the cultural lies surrounding identity, relationships, justice, joy, hope, and the pursuit of the good life. She emphasizes the importance of rooting identity in Christ rather than achievement, embracing self-sacrificial love, and finding true belonging within the local church.The conversation also examines spiritual practices such as fasting, meditation on Scripture, and meaningful community that can help believers develop resilience and faithfulness in a challenging cultural moment.SHOW LINKS:The Seven Habits of Resistance by Elizabeth WoodsonRegister for ETCH ConferenceRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Want to grow as a leader? Pick up a book! In a world filled with quick clips and shallow content, the leaders who rise are the ones who learn deeply — page by page.In this rich and energizing episode, Chuck Peters and Jeremy Echols unpack the transformative power of reading for leadership development. They explore the timeless wisdom found in classic leadership books, share their personal reading rhythms, and highlight why deep, intentional learning will always outperform short-form consumption when it comes to shaping effective, grounded leaders.Whether you're new to leadership or building a long-term ministry career, this episode will equip you with perspectives and resources to grow your influence, lead healthier teams, and cultivate personal and spiritual maturity.SHOW LINKS: The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership The 7 Habits of Highly Effective PeopleSpiritual Leadership Good to GreatThe Four Obsessions of an Extordinary Executive The 6 Types of Working GeniusThe Ruthless Elimination of HurryRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Screens are everywhere, but sacred spaces are disappearing. In a world where digital noise dominates our attention, how do we help the next generation hear the voice of God?In this powerful episode Jesse and Sarah Siegand dive deep into the challenges and strategies of discipling students in a digital world. The speakers unpack what it looks like to guide kids and teens toward meaningful faith formation in an age of endless scrolling, where attention is the new currency and discipleship must be both intentional and countercultural.This episode isn’t about hating technology,  it’s about redeeming it. From the role of parents in digital discipleship to the spiritual practice of fasting and modeling healthy habits, this conversation offers a practical roadmap for leaders who want to raise resilient, grounded disciples in a screen-saturated generation.SHOW LINKS: Parents Who Fight Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What happens when ministry leaders see their schools, neighborhoods, and everyday rhythms not as obstacles — but as mission fields?In this live episode recorded at the ETCH Next Gen Ministry Conference, Justin Holcomb shares powerful, practical wisdom on what it really means to love your community and connect with students in meaningful ways. From engaging with schools to supporting families, this conversation cuts through the noise and brings leaders back to the heart of relational ministry: showing up, staying consistent, and loving people well.Thanks so much for listening to this episode of ETCH Next Gen Ministry Podcast. We’d love for you to join us at ETCH Conference 2026 — make plans now to be part of this incredible gathering of Next Gen leaders.And if today’s episode encouraged or equipped you, leave us a rating and review. It helps more ministry leaders find the show and grow with us.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway Next Gen MinistryRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What separates leaders who maintain ministries from those who multiply them? In this episode, Jeff Wallace joins Chuck Peters for an honest and insightful conversation on the habits that define effective leadership. From leading with vision to choosing growth over comfort, Jeff unpacks the disciplines that develop both your character and your capacity.Whether you’re leading a team, a ministry, or the next generation itself — this conversation will challenge you to think bigger, lead deeper, and invest in people who will outlast your platform.Share this episode with your ministry team or leadership pipeline. Use it as a guide to evaluate your habits, grow your influence, and build leaders who multiply the mission of the Gospel.SHOW LINKS:Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What if the most spiritually transformative thing happening in your church isn’t on stage, but in a classroom, holding a goldfish cracker?In this episode, Chuck Peters and Steve Hample unpack the real impact of volunteering in children’s and family ministry — not just for kids, but for the adults who serve them. From personal growth and discipleship to leadership development and prayerful investment in future leaders, this conversation will inspire every Next Gen leader to see volunteering as more than a task… it’s a calling that changes lives.Encourage your team to listen together, reflect on how serving is shaping their faith, and start praying for the next generation of leaders God is already calling to your ministry.SHOW LINKS:Hyfi The Gospel ProjectBible Studies for LifeExplore the BibleSign up for ETCH Conference 2026!Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Stepping into ministry can feel like being handed a map… with no directions. Whether you’re a brand-new leader or guiding others who are, the early stages of ministry are filled with both calling and chaos. In this episode, Chuck Peters is joined with Amanda Mejias and Delanee Williams, and together they unpack what it really takes to equip, support, and sustain new ministry leaders so they can thrive, not just survive, in their roles.From volunteer training and team culture to safety, mentorship, and personal soul care, this conversation will help every Next Gen leader build healthy foundations for ministry that lasts.Share this episode with a new leader on your team or someone stepping into ministry. Let’s build a culture of confident, supported, and equipped leaders who reflect the mission and heart of the church.SHOW LINKS:Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Who do your students really believe Jesus is? In a culture filled with half-truths, memes, and mixed theology, even well-meaning young people can end up following a version of Jesus that doesn’t actually exist. In this episode, Shane Pruitt brings a timely and passionate conversation about rediscovering the real Jesus -the one revealed in Scripture, not reshaped by culture.If you’re leading Gen Z or Gen Alpha, this conversation will help you cut through cultural noise, clarify biblical truth, and point the next generation to the Savior who transforms everything.Shane and Chuck unpack the most common misconceptions about Jesus in today’s culture — from the “Clay Jesus” we mold to fit our preferences to the “Genie Jesus” we expect to grant wishes, along with the myth that "good people go to heaven". That dive into how young people form their view, and practical ways to teach the enxt generation to follow the REAL Jesus!Share this episode with your team or teaching leaders, and start a conversation about how your ministry is presenting Jesus to the next generation. Let’s lead them to the Jesus who saves, not the one culture sells.SHOW LINKS: Not My Jesus Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

If ministry is starting to feel heavy, it’s probably because you’re carrying what God never designed you to hold alone. In this episode, we tackle one of the most difficult growth barriers for any leader: delegation. If you’ve ever struggled to trust others, release control, build a team you can depend on, or step away from doing everything yourself, this conversation will speak directly to you. What if delegation isn’t just a leadership skill… but a discipleship strategy?If you’re ready to stop carrying everything yourself and start empowering the people God has already placed around you, share this episode with your team and subscribe for more conversations that help you lead with clarity and confidence.SHOW LINKS: The First 90 DaysRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Healthy ministry doesn’t happen by accident, and neither do healthy teams. In this episode, we explore what it truly takes to build, lead, and sustain a thriving ministry team. Whether you lead staff, volunteers, or a mix of both, this conversation will equip you with practical tools and a biblical foundation for team leadership that lasts.Chuck Peters and Lee Hotchkiss unpack the dynamics of effective teams and discuss how to assess team health, navigate dysfunction, and cultivate trust. You’ll learn how social science and scripture work together to shape stronger leadership, deepen relationships, and create an environment where every team member can flourish.From communication rhythms to conflict resolution to fostering belonging, this episode gives you a blueprint you can begin implementing this week. If you want to lead a ministry marked by collaboration, not burnout, silos, or stress, this episode is a must-listen! SHOW LINKS: Team Performance ModelRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Every leader knows the power of vision. But in the busyness of ministry, it’s easy for vision to drift, blur, or get lost in the noise of daily demands. Without clarity, leaders risk aiming at the wrong targets, making decisions that miss the mark, and losing momentum in their mission.In this episode, Jana Magruder and Chuck Peters unpack the critical role of vision in leadership, especially within the context of ministry. They share personal stories and practical wisdom that will inspire you to revisit and refine your own leadership vision. Highlights include:Why leaders must regularly check and update their vision for clarity and directionThe dangers of leading without a clear “why”How vision shapes decision-making and defines success in ministryRecruiting and mobilizing volunteers with purpose and passionDelivering on promises to the community and building trust through consistencyPractical tips for ensuring your ministry stays aligned with God’s missionWhether you’re leading a kids or student ministry, recruiting volunteers, or making tough calls for your church, this conversation will help you ensure your “why” remains front and center.SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway Students The 7 Habits of Highly Effective PeopleNothing Less Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Ministry is full of incredible moments of joy and impact—but it also comes with challenges we don’t always anticipate. Today, Chuck and Kevin Jones dive deep into the reality of spiritual warfare, exploring how the enemy seeks to distract, discourage, and divide ministry leaders. Far from being a reason to despair, these struggles remind us of our dependence on God’s strength and the power of His promises.Highlights from this episode:Why ministry often brings unexpected challenges—and how to set realistic expectationsThe reality of spiritual warfare and the enemy’s strategies against leadersThe necessity of prayer, unity, and vigilance in overcoming trialsFinding joy in the midst of hardship and holding fast to God’s promisesThe role of the armor of God in preparing for spiritual battlesEncouragement that God will restore and strengthen those who remain faithfulA closing prayer of strength and hope for ministry leadersIf you’ve ever felt weary, overwhelmed, or under attack in your calling, this conversation will encourage you to press on with hope. Together, we’ll unpack practical truths about preparation, prayer, and perseverance—reminders that God equips us for every battle we face in ministry.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway StudentsRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Leadership in ministry rarely looks like a straight path. More often, it feels like walking forward with limited clarity, unexpected turns, and a constant call to trust God’s leading. The story of Gideon reminds us that even the most hesitant leaders can be used mightily when they surrender fear, embrace faith, and trust the One who holds the mission steady, no matter the circumstances.In this episode you’ll discover five key takeaways designed to encourage and equip leaders to adapt when circumstances shift, remain faithful to God’s mission, and lead with boldness rooted in trust. Through this episode, you’ll be reminded that while methods may pivot, the mission of making disciples never changes.Key Highlights:Lessons from Gideon’s journey as a hesitant but faithful leader.Why adaptability is essential in ministry leadership.Five takeaways for leading with confidence in uncertain times.Encouragement to trust God’s mission, even when methods must shift.Whether you’re leading a kids ministry, student ministry, or family ministry, this episode will challenge and inspire you to step forward in courage, knowing that God’s strength is always enough! SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway StudentsRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In a rapidly changing culture where ministry strategies come and go, some methods continue to stand the test of time. Vacation Bible School (VBS) is one of those deeply rooted traditions that still holds transformative power for the church. In this episode, we take a thoughtful look at how VBS remains a cornerstone of next gen ministry—bridging generations, strengthening community ties, and inviting kids and families to encounter the Gospel in meaningful ways. This conversation explores the enduring relevance and spiritual impact of Vacation Bible School in today’s church landscape. The hosts unpack how VBS continues to thrive as a vital outreach and discipleship tool—equipping churches to reach children, engage families, and foster lasting community connections. You’ll hear a compelling case for why VBS isn’t just for the kids; it’s a ministry-wide opportunity that fuels evangelism, develops leaders, and unites generations. If this episode encouraged or equipped you, we’d love for you to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with other ministry leaders who care about reaching the next generation. Let’s keep growing together.Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Preteens are standing on the edge of two worlds—no longer children, but not yet teenagers. They’re asking big questions, feeling deeply, and shaping a worldview that will guide them into adulthood. For those of us in next generation ministry, this season can be both exhilarating and challenging. How we show up in these years matters. It’s in this transitional phase that faith can either become personal and enduring or drift into the background. In today's episode, Chuck Peters and Kayla Stevens dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of preteen ministry. Together, we explore how to understand the preteen phase with fresh eyes, meeting their emotional and spiritual needs with care and intentionality. We discuss the vital role authentic leadership plays in guiding preteens as they wrestle with identity, belonging, and faith ownership. You’ll hear practical strategies for creating environments where preteens feel seen, valued, and equipped to navigate cultural pressures with a biblical worldview. Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just stepping into preteen ministry, this conversation will inspire you to invest intentionally in helping this age group thrive in their faith journey.SHOW LINKS: Flip the Script Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Preteens are in one of the most complex seasons of life. They’re not quite kids anymore, but not yet teenagers. Too old for the playground, too young for youth group. And often, this “in-between” stage can leave them feeling like they don’t fully belong anywhere—not at school, not in culture, and sometimes, not even at church. In this episode, we pause to consider: What if our ministries could be the place where preteens feel most seen, most known, and most valued? What if we could help them move from feeling like outsiders to becoming confident insiders in both faith and community?In this powerful conversation, Crystal Mazucca and Kayla Stevens joins Chuck Peters to unpack the unique opportunities and challenges of engaging preteens in faith and culture. The episode highlights the critical importance of this transitional phase—where identity is being formed and belonging is deeply sought.Together they introduce the “outsider in” methodology, a relational approach that focuses on creating psychological safety, inclusion, participation, learning, and contribution. These pillars help ministry leaders guide preteens from the margins to the center—allowing them to engage meaningfully, ask hard questions, and begin owning their faith in a safe, intentional environment.Listeners will come away with a renewed sense of urgency and compassion for this age group, along with practical strategies for building bridges between faith and belonging. If this conversation sparked new ideas or encouraged your heart, we’d love for you to rate, review, and share this episode with fellow ministry leaders. Together, we can build ministries where every child feels seen, safe, and spiritually supported—right when they need it most.SHOW LINKS: Flip the Script HyfiRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In the world of next generation ministry, it’s easy to focus all our energy on the kids and students who show up week after week. We pour into them, plan for them, and pray over them. But what if the greatest impact we can make isn’t just in the classroom or the youth room - but around the dinner table at home?This episode invites ministry leaders to pause and reflect on a foundational truth: parents are the primary disciplers of their children. When we as church leaders shift from programming for families to partnering with them, we begin to build something lasting—rooted in relationship, fueled by communication, and shaped by shared mission.In this insightful conversation, Chuck Peters, Zac Workun, and Chad Higgins dive into the often-overlooked but critically important topic of parental engagement in spiritual development. They challenge the traditional ministry model that centers only on kids and teens and instead advocate for a more holistic, family-centered approach.The discussion introduces the book “Define the Relationship,” a powerful new resource that unpacks practical strategies for developing a thriving parent ministry. You will be equipped with ideas for fostering meaningful communication between leaders and families, and encouraged to view parents not as passive recipients of ministry, but as essential partners in their child’s faith journey. If this conversation encouraged or challenged you, we’d love for you to rate, review, and share the podcast with your ministry team or fellow leaders. And be sure to check out the book Define the Relationship for deeper guidance on building a vibrant parent ministry that lasts.SHOW LINKS: Define the RelationshipRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In ministry, it’s easy to get caught up in what’s next. The next event, next age group, next building phase. But what if we slowed down long enough to truly see the opportunities God has placed right in front of us? What if collaboration wasn’t just a logistical necessity but a spiritual discipline? And what if contentment wasn’t complacency, but a deep trust in God’s perfect timing?This episode invites leaders to pause and reflect on how we’re serving not just in strategy, but in spirit. It's a reminder that faithful ministry isn’t just about what we build, but how we build it—together, with humility, and with eyes wide open to what God is doing right now.If this episode challenged or encouraged you, we’d love for you to rate, review, and share the podcast. Send it to a teammate or fellow leader who could use a reminder that faithfulness in the now is often the foundation for God’s future plans.Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

As ministry leaders, we’re not just teaching lessons - we’re shaping lives. And the way we teach matters just as much as what we teach. From coloring sheets and object lessons to small group discussions and personal reflection, kids and students engage with truth in very different ways. If we’re not intentional, the transition from children’s to student ministry can feel like a jarring leap rather than a natural step.In this episode, we pause to consider a vital question: How can we better bridge the methodological gap between ministries to ensure continuity, connection, and lasting faith formation? The answer lies in how we understand their developmental needs, how we design curriculum, and how we walk with them every step of the way.From the hands-on, activity-rich environment of kids ministry to the discussion-based, peer-focused nature of student ministry, this episode explores how to align teaching methods, curriculum, and relationships to support long-term discipleship. Our guests share practical ideas for fostering continuity and building bridges that not only prepare preteens for what’s next—but help them stay connected to the church for life.If this episode challenged or encouraged you, take a moment to rate, review, and share the podcast with fellow leaders. And if you're looking to strengthen transitions in your own ministry, consider how your curriculum, relationships, and teaching methods can align more intentionally.SHOW LINKS: Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

It’s easy for ministries within a church to drift into silos, each one focusing on its own age group, calendar, and curriculum. But when we forget that kids and student ministries are part of a larger discipleship journey, we risk creating disjointed spiritual experiences for the very families we're called to serve. True transformation in the lives of young people happens when ministry teams are united by a clear, gospel-centered vision that transcends age brackets and stage-specific programming.In this insightful conversation, Chuck Peters and Jay Barbier dive into the critical topic of alignment across kids and student ministries. They explore the dangers of siloed ministry structures and the unintended consequences they can have on discipleship. With a focus on unity, the discussion highlights how a shared vision, intentional communication, and cross-team collaboration can lead to lasting life transformation for the next generation.This episode invites leaders to step back and ask a powerful question: Are we truly working together, or just working in parallel? When we collaborate, communicate, and commit to a shared mission, we do more than fill seats—we shape hearts, build bridges, and raise a generation that knows and follows Jesus.If this conversation inspired you to think differently about ministry alignment, take a moment to rate, review, and share this episode with your team or fellow leaders. Let’s build ministries that move together toward one mission, raising up a generation rooted in Christ.SHOW LINKS: 7 Habits of Highly Effective People Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Every child’s faith journey is a story in progress, but far too often, our ministry strategies treat it like a series of disconnected chapters. When there’s no alignment between kids and student ministries, we risk losing spiritual momentum at the very moments when children are ready to grow deeper. In today’s conversation, Chuck Peters and Pastor Jay Strother step into the critical work of closing educational gaps in the church, ensuring that from preschool to high school graduation, our ministries are not just passing the baton, but running the race together. This powerful episode explores the essential topic of educational alignment between kids and student ministries. If this episode encouraged or challenged you, please take a moment to rate, review, and share it with your ministry team. Your voice helps spread these important conversations to more leaders who are shaping the future of the Church, one generation at a time.SHOW LINKS:Bible Studies for LifeExplore the Bible HyfiThe Gospel Project Day by Day Chronological BibleRead and RemainReach TeensTeach KidsRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In ministry, calendars fill up fast. Between planning events, training volunteers, and caring for families, the pressure to “just get it all done” can pull ministry leaders in different directions. And when kids and student ministries aren’t aligned, the result isn’t just double-booked spaces - it’s missed opportunities for unity, shared vision, and sustainable impact. What if we saw scheduling not just as logistics, but as ministry in itself? What if collaboration wasn’t a burden, but a blessing that strengthens our teams and better serves the families we lead?In this episode, we pause to reflect on the importance of planning together with purpose and how collaboration can create a seamless, gospel-centered experience for the next generation. Chuck Peters, along with Tristan Meza and Randy Craft, dive into a conversation about scheduling and collaboration between kids and student ministry teams. They unpack the challenges that come with overlapping events, misaligned planning, and lack of communication, and offer real-life solutions for building stronger coordination and unity.When Next Gen teams plan and lead with unity, families experience consistency, volunteers feel supported, and ministries become more effective in making disciples. Scheduling isn’t just about the calendar - it’s about honoring the mission.If this episode helped you think differently about teamwork and scheduling in ministry, take a moment to rate, review, and share the podcast. Send it to someone on your team, and let it spark a conversation about how you can better collaborate for Kingdom impact.SHOW LINKS:Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Ministry to the next generation isn’t just about meeting kids where they are, it’s also about helping them get where they’re going. As children grow, they encounter major shifts: socially, emotionally, spiritually, and developmentally. These transitions, from preschool to elementary, elementary to middle school, and so on, can be defining moments in their spiritual journeys. But if we’re not intentional, these sacred transitions can become a physical gap they metaphorically fall through. In today’s conversation, we’re reminded that the church has an opportunity, and a responsibility, to walk with kids and their families every step of the way. Through intentional environments, clear communication, and milestone celebrations, we can create a rhythm of belonging and growth that anchors a child’s faith in every new season.In this inspiring episode, Heidi Hensley joins the conversation to discuss how churches can design intentional, engaging environments that help kids thrive through the various stages of ministry. Heidi unpacks the practical and emotional challenges families face as children transition from one ministry area to another. From the importance of emotional safety to the power of milestone celebrations, this episode equips leaders to think deeply about community building, family engagement, and relational continuity across all age groups.If this episode gave you something to think about or talk about with your team, we’d love for you to rate, review, and share the show. Your feedback helps us serve more ministry leaders just like you who are committed to raising up the next generation with wisdom and care.SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway Next GenRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In ministry, we often talk about strategy, curriculum, and programming - but beneath all of it is something even more essential: relationships. Without trust and connection between leaders, even the best ministry plans can fall flat. As children grow and transition through the stages of church life, the strength of our relationships behind the scenes profoundly shapes the spiritual experiences they have in front of them.This week, Jeremy Echols joins the conversation to talk about the power of relationships in ministry leadership, especially within the next generation context. From kids to student ministry and everything in between, Jeremy unpacks the relational gaps that often hinder collaboration, and how intentional relationship-building can create a seamless, unified experience for the families we serve.In this episode, we’re reminded that ministry is never meant to be done in silos. Whether you're leading preschoolers, preteens, or students, your work is part of a larger story. And when ministry teams communicate, collaborate, and genuinely care for one another, that story becomes clearer, more cohesive, and far more impactful.If this episode encouraged or challenged you, we’d love for you to rate, review, and share it with your ministry team. Every share helps build a network of leaders committed to working together to see kids and students know and follow Jesus.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway Next GenRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

One of the most pivotal seasons in a young person’s spiritual journey is the transition from kids ministry to student ministry. It’s a season filled with excitement, change—and often, challenges. As ministry leaders, we want to see continuity and connection, not confusion and inconsistency. But how do we intentionally bridge the gaps that naturally exist between age-specific ministries?In this episode, Chuck Peters, along with Jana Magruder and Zac Workun, reflect on the importance of collaboration across ministry lines. We examine the relational, physical, and philosophical gaps that often go unaddressed—and how these affect the spiritual formation of the next generation. It’s a reminder that building bridges isn’t just about programs or logistics—it’s about people, purpose, and shared vision.If this episode challenged or encouraged you, take a moment to rate, review, and share it with fellow ministry leaders. Let’s keep building bridges that lead kids and students into deeper relationships with Christ.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway Students Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Ministry is a calling filled with joy, purpose, and deep meaning—but it can also carry a heavy weight. Behind every sermon, every program, and every conversation is a leader who is pouring out their heart, often while carrying their own unseen burdens. In a world that doesn’t slow down, and in a church culture that can unintentionally glorify overworking, it’s no wonder so many pastors and leaders are walking through burnout, anxiety, and loneliness.In this episode, we step into a real and honest conversation about stress in ministry—what causes it, how it affects us, and what we can do to steward our health well. Our guest, Lee Hotchkiss, brings a wealth of experience from his work in pastoral care and counseling, offering encouragement and practical tools to help ministry leaders develop emotional awareness, manage expectations, and build healthy rhythms.Whether you're a student pastor, a kids minister, or someone carrying the quiet weight of leadership, this episode will meet you where you are and offer hope, healing, and practical guidance.If this episode encouraged you, take a moment to rate, review, and share the podcast with another leader who might need to hear this. Your voice helps spread encouragement and support across the next generation of ministry.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lee HotchkissStress and Relational PeaceMultiplying Disciple MakersHandling Stress EffectivelyRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Have you ever found yourself asking, “What could ministry look like if we truly worked together across every age and stage?” In many churches, kids and student ministries operate in silos—running strong but disconnected. But what if we intentionally bridged those gaps and created a unified approach that served the whole family? What if collaboration replaced competition, and trust shaped every decision?In this episode, we invite you behind the scenes of Lifeway’s transition to a NextGen model—a bold move to integrate kids and student ministries in order to better serve the church and equip families. You’ll hear honest reflections, practical insights, and encouraging stories from leaders who have walked through both the challenges and the victories of building something new—together.The team discusses what it took to reimagine structure, navigate leadership changes, and foster trust between ministries that often operate independently. Through transparency and shared experience, they talk about building a new team culture rooted in connection, communication, and shared purpose.If this episode inspired or challenged you, would you take a moment to rate, review, and share the podcast? Your feedback helps us reach and equip even more next generation ministry leaders.Thanks for listening—and keep pressing forward in faith and unity as you lead the next generation.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway Kids Connect with Lifeway Students Connect with Next Gen Ministry Write for Lifeway Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Have you ever thought about how your childhood dreams shaped the person you are today? For many of us, the journey from our early aspirations to our current calling in ministry is filled with unexpected turns, challenges, and lessons learned. Yet, each step prepares us for the work God has set before us. In this episode, we take a moment to reflect on the importance of embracing diverse family structures in ministry. What if we could see families not just as they “should be” but as they truly are—and meet them with belonging, support, and grace?This conversation challenges ministry leaders to broaden their perspectives on family dynamics and recognize that not all families fit the traditional mold. Dr. Melia emphasizes the importance of creating a sense of belonging for families of all kinds, particularly single-parent households and those in need. She also discusses the significance of male role models in children's and student ministry and encourages leaders to pursue further education to better serve their communities.If this episode encouraged or challenged you, we’d love to hear your thoughts! Please take a moment to rate, review, and share the podcast. Your feedback helps us reach more next-gen ministry leaders like you, and your support means the world to us. Thank you for joining us on this journey. Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes, and we look forward to continuing the conversation next time!SHOW LINKS:ETCH Conference Connect to Lifeway Next Gen Ministry Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Have you ever paused to consider what’s really going on beneath the surface in the lives of the kids and students you serve? So often, we see behaviors that confuse or frustrate us, but behind many of those actions is a story—sometimes one marked by pain, trauma, or stress they don’t yet have the words to explain.In this episode, Chuck Peters and Stephanie Shivers invite you to slow down and reflect on the reality that many children and youth are carrying more than we realize. The impact of trauma and toxic stress—especially in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic—has left a deep mark on this generation. This conversation explores the reality of Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and how they affect brain development, emotional regulation, and relational connection. We discuss why ministry leaders need to approach kids with empathy and understanding, providing safe spaces where they can heal, grow, and experience the love of Christ.As ministry leaders, we have a unique opportunity to meet them in their brokenness, offer them safe spaces, and point them toward the hope and healing found in Christ. Whether you’re a kids ministry leader, student pastor, or volunteer, this episode will equip you with insights and tools to better support the next generation in their spiritual and emotional journey. Thanks for listening!SHOW LINKS:ETCH Conference Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry  Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Have you ever stopped to think about how different generations view the world, the church, and even the gospel? In kids ministry, we often focus on reaching the next generation—but understanding where they've come from and who’s come before them is just as important. Every generation brings its own values, challenges, and perspectives to the table, and as ministry leaders, we have the opportunity—and responsibility—to bridge those gaps.Chuck Peters and Jana Magruder unpack the unique characteristics of each generation—from the Silent Generation and Baby Boomers to Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, and Gen Alpha. Jana explores how generational traits influence ministry approaches, communication styles, and discipleship strategies while Chuck emphasizes the need for ministry leaders to adapt, fostering intergenerational connections and creating spaces where all generations can grow together in faith.Whether you're new to next gen ministry or a seasoned leader, this conversation offers practical insights and inspiration to help you lead more effectively across generations. Thanks for listening!SHOW LINKS: Kids Ministry Calling with Jana Magruder Flip the ScriptLifeway ResearchMccrindle ResearchiGen by Dr. Jean TwengeGenerations by Dr. Jean TwengeThe Anxious GenerationRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

In this impactful episode, Chuck Peters sits down with Dr. Shelly Melia to discuss one of the most critical issues facing today’s kids and students: worldview formation.As ministry leaders and parents, we have a short window to help shape how the next generation sees God, truth, and the world around them. Dr. Melia unpacks the importance of establishing a biblical worldview early and offers practical insight into how families and churches can work together to build a solid foundation of faith.This conversation dives into the role of parents as the primary disciplers in their child’s life and addresses the cultural challenges families face when teaching biblical truth. Dr. Melia also highlights why intentionality matters in helping kids develop a God-centered worldview and offers encouragement for ministry leaders to support families and reinforce a strong biblical foundation.If you’re passionate about discipling the next generation, this conversation will encourage and equip you to be intentional in shaping young hearts and minds for Christ.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway Next GenRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

How can we equip students to engage with God’s Word in a way that transforms their lives? In this episode, Chuck Peters, Brett Buckland, and Chris Brown explore the importance of biblical literacy and introduce the Seven Arrows method, a practical framework designed to help students study and apply scripture effectively.This conversation highlights the necessity of intentional Bible study, teaching students not only to gain knowledge but to respond with action, reflection, and prayer. As ministry leaders, we have the privilege of guiding the next generation to see scripture as more than just words—it’s the foundation for their faith and relationships.We hope this conversation has encouraged you to be more intentional in teaching students how to study God’s Word. If this episode was helpful to you, would you take a moment to rate and review the podcast? Your feedback helps us reach more next-gen ministry leaders with practical insights and encouragement. And don’t forget to share this episode with your team, fellow leaders, or anyone passionate about discipling the next generation.Thanks for listening!SHOW LINKS: Reach TeensSeven Arrows Explore the Bible The Gospel ProjectBible Studies for LifeHyfiETCH NextGen Ministry ConferenceRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Technology is shaping the way Gen Z and Gen Alpha think, interact, and even define their identity. In this episode, we dive into the profound impact of smartphones, AI, and social media on the next generation’s mental health, social dynamics, and spiritual growth.Tony Bianco joins us to explore the challenges and opportunities technology presents for today’s youth. From screen addiction to academic integrity, from social media pressures to online gender differences, we discuss how leaders and parents can guide children to embrace their true identity in Christ while navigating the digital world.As ministry leaders, we can’t ignore the influence of technology. How can we equip the next generation to think critically, set boundaries, and stay grounded in their faith? Let’s talk about it.SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway Next GenThe Anxious GenerationRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What if the next generation isn’t rejecting the gospel—they just haven’t heard it clearly?As ministry leaders, we have the greatest message in the world, but are we communicating it in a way that truly connects with Gen Z and Gen Alpha? Are we equipping them not just to hear the gospel but to share it boldly with their peers?In this episode, we’re wrapping up our four-part series on the gospel and the next generation with Shane Pruitt, who challenges us to be authentic, prayerful, and interruptible in our evangelism. He reminds us that while culture constantly shifts, the gospel never changes, and we must be intentional about engaging in real, meaningful conversations that break through distractions.So here’s the challenge: Are you prepared to share the gospel in a way that meets young people where they are? Are you raising expectations in your ministry, inviting responses, and explaining biblical truth without assumptions?Lean in, take notes, and get ready—because today’s conversation is all about practical, powerful ways to bring the gospel to the next generation.SHOW LINKS: Connect with Lifeway StudentsConnect with Lifeway Kids Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

As ministry leaders, how can we ensure that the next generation remains deeply rooted in God’s Word? Are we modeling the kind of Bible engagement we hope to see in the kids and students we lead? In this episode, we dive into the heart of Next Gen ministry and the vital role Scripture plays in shaping young hearts and minds.In this engaging conversation, Chuck Peters and Dr. Kevin Jones discuss the foundational importance of keeping the gospel at the center of Next Gen ministry. Their conversation highlights the necessity of ministry leaders modeling Bible engagement, and physically carrying and using their Bibles in front of kids to demonstrate its importance. They stress how children should be directed to Scripture as the ultimate source of truth and guidance, encouraging them to read and understand it for themselves. They also explore the role of incentives in fostering Bible engagement, making it both meaningful and enjoyable for young learners.If you found this conversation helpful, take a moment to rate and review the podcast! Your feedback helps us reach more ministry leaders. And don’t forget to share this episode with a friend who is passionate about investing in the next generation. Let’s keep making disciples together!SHOW LINKS:The Gospel Project Connect with Lifeway StudentsConnect with Lifeway Kids Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Welcome back to another great episode of ETCH Next Gen Ministry Podcast with Chuck Peters! In this truth-packed episode, we sit down with the National Next Gen Director for the North American Mission Board, Shane Pruitt, to talk about the Revival Generation!  Gen Z and Generation Alpha are experiencing a spiritual awakening, and it’s time for ministry leaders to step up, lean in, and disciple with boldness!Shane dives deep into the hope-filled movement happening right now, and how he's interacting with young people who are hungry for truth, searching for meaning, and more curious about the Bible than ever before! He unpacks fresh data showing that religious disaffiliation is declining and shares why this is the moment for the church to invest in the next generation like never before!If you’re passionate about reaching the next generation, you don’t want to miss this conversation! Let’s fan the flame of this revival together! SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway StudentsConnect with Shane PruittThe GenSend Podcast Flip the ScriptRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Welcome back to another great season of ETCH with Chuck Peters! Are you keeping the gospel at the center of your ministry to the next generation? As leaders, it’s easy to get caught up in programs and distractions, but Gen Z and Generation Alpha need authentic gospel conversations now more than ever. In today's episode, Chuck Peters and Dr. Kevin Jones explore the vital role of next-generation ministry in reaching Gen Z and Gen Alpha with the gospel. They emphasize the importance of keeping the gospel central to all ministry efforts and provide insights on avoiding distractions that can steer ministries off course. You'll also hear practical tools for equipping leaders to feel confident in evangelism and strategies for integrating gospel truths into everyday interactions.Join the conversation as they discuss the keys to effective leadership, the power of authentic gospel conversations, and the importance of creating opportunities to introduce young people to Jesus. If you're passionate about making a lasting impact on the next generation, this episode will inspire and equip you to lead with clarity and purpose.Tune in now and discover how to keep the gospel at the heart of your ministry! And don't forget to share this episode with a friend!SHOW LINKS: The Gospel Project  Connect with Lifeway Students Connect with Lifeway Kids Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

What if one week could transform your church and community for eternity? Could a summer tradition become your most powerful tool for outreach and evangelism? YES! We believe that Vacation Bible School (VBS) is more than just an event—it’s a ministry strategy with lasting impact!In this episode, we dive deep into why VBS is more than just a summer tradition—it’s a game-changing outreach and evangelism opportunity for your church. You'll discover how VBS builds meaningful relationships, engages entire families, and serves as a powerful multi-generational ministry strategy. Ben Mandrell, along with Chuck Peters and Melita Thomas, tackle common challenges churches face in implementing VBS, from budget constraints to volunteer recruitment, and explore solutions that make it achievable for every church. Be inspired by stories of lives transformed through VBS and learn why trustworthy, culturally relevant content is key to its lasting impact.If you’re looking for a proven way to impact generations, this conversation will leave you convinced that VBS is the best investment you can make this year!Check out the show links below to take your best next step in reaching the community God has entrusted to you!SHOW LINKS: Start Listening to Season 1 of ETCHLifeway VBS VBS Digital CatalogVBS Directors ClubVBS Free SampleVBS Preview Digital PassRegister for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry 

Is simply knowing about Jesus enough for the next generation? Or are they missing the deeper relationship they need?In part 2 of this important conversation, Chuck Peters and Jeremy Echols unpack the essential difference between knowing about Jesus and truly knowing Him. They emphasize the need for leaders to guide students toward a personal, relational connection with Jesus—one that goes beyond facts and transforms their daily lives. Patrick and Jeremy share practical tips on how leaders can model an authentic relationship with Christ, encourage private conversations about faith, and nurture discipleship after students make a decision to follow Jesus. From creating quiet spaces for one-on-one discussions to presenting the gospel in a natural, relational way, this conversation is a valuable resource for leaders committed to helping young people build a lasting and intimate relationship with Jesus.SHOW LINKS:Connect with Lifeway KidsConnect with Lifeway Students Register for ETCH Conference 2026Connect with Lifeway Next Gen Ministry