Fast Talks with Family Docs

In Part Two, Dr. Tomás Owens and Dr. Thomas Owens continue their conversation, focusing on what it means to practice medicine across generations.They discuss mentorship, teaching, and how the field of family medicine is evolving — along with the lessons they’ve learned from each other along the way. Blending thoughtful reflection with a few lighter moments, this episode captures the unique dynamic of a shared profession, a shared purpose, and a legacy still unfolding.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In Part One of this two-part conversation, Dr. Tomás Owens and Dr. Thomas Owens III — a father-son duo in family medicine — reflect on the paths that led them to a shared calling.Together, they explore leadership, purpose, and the early influences that shape a career in medicine. From decades of experience in education and organized medicine to growing up with a front-row seat to it all, this conversation highlights how values, mentorship, and passion for patient care take root across generations.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Recent vaccine recommendation changes are creating uncertainty for clinicians nationwide. In part two of this episode, we continue this conversation with Dr. Steve Crawford to further discuss what’s changing, what it means for primary care, but mostly how physicians can rebuild trust with patients in today’s evolving vaccine landscape. Our patients are asking questions, and they want to do and know what is best for their family - this is where Family Doctors come in. Tune in for his advice and thoughts during this time!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Season 3 is kicking off strong with a major topic of conversation! Recent vaccine recommendation changes are creating uncertainty for clinicians nationwide. Dr. Steve Crawford joins us to break down what’s changing, what it means for primary care, and how physicians can rebuild trust with patients in today’s evolving vaccine landscape.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

The 2026 Legislative Session has begun and the OAFP is tracking over 400 bills! Which ones do you need to know about today? How can you help make a difference? Join our hosts in a discussion with OAFP Legislative Consultant, Dawn Watson, and OAFP Executive Vice President, Kari Webber, to tell you just that!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In Part Two, we step outside the exam room and into life on the farm. Dr. Saladin tells the story of building Firefly Farmstead with her husband, what she’s learned from being part of the Norman Farm Market community, and how their work has expanded into the creation of Firefly Homes. We also talk about life beyond medicine—baby goats, staying active, avoiding burnout, and balancing multiple roles with intention. The episode closes with Dr. Saladin’s key takeaway on living well through food, movement, and purpose-driven life outside of medicine.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In Part One, we welcome Dr. Elizabeth Saladin, a family physician with expertise in obesity medicine whose approach to health is deeply shaped by life beyond the clinic. Dr. Saladin shares what inspired her focus on obesity medicine and how it integrates seamlessly into family medicine and primary care. We explore how living and working on Firefly Farmstead influences the way she talks with patients about food, nutrition, and lifestyle, and she clears up common misconceptions about obesity and weight management. This conversation highlights how real-world experience and community connection can transform the way we practice medicine.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In Part Two, Dr. Michael Kouandjio dives into the realities of being a family medicine–trained physician in the emergency department, addressing perceptions from patients, colleagues, and hospital systems—and how credentialing for FM-trained ER physicians looks today. He offers practical advice for family medicine residents interested in emergency care, sharing concrete ways to prepare during residency and beyond. The conversation closes with memorable ER stories where his family medicine training made a critical difference, highlighting the value of broad-based training when quick decisions truly matter.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Michael Kouandjio, a family medicine–trained, emergency medicine fellowship–trained physician whose unconventional journey spans aviation science, military service, accounting, and medicine. He shares what drew him from family medicine into the emergency department, the training and mentorship that supported his transition, and how FM uniquely prepares physicians for high-acuity, undifferentiated care. From diagnostic versatility to procedural confidence, Dr. Kouandjio explains why adaptability is key in the ER—and why family medicine training shines when every shift is different.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

The studio is currently under construction but only for a couple more weeks! Until then, we wanted to reach you outside the studio. This special episode is all about some of our favorite moments from a couple of our second season episodes. From Hawaii to the hockey rink and the gym we are reflecting on some really great moments from our guests - join us!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode, we continue our discussion with Dr. Christopher Klouzek, OU Family Medicine faculty, on his passion for wilderness medicine. From the backcountry to the garage, Dr. Klouzek shows how problem-solving and resilience fuel every part of his life.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Christopher Klouzek, OU Family Medicine faculty, to explore his passion for wilderness medicine, unforgettable adventures in Alaska, and even his hobby of building cars. From the backcountry to the garage, Dr. Klouzek shows how problem-solving and resilience fuel every part of his life.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Your 2025-2026 OAFP President is Dr. Rachel Franklin! Dr. Franklin has been a friend to the OAFP for some time now and we are excited for her leadership over the course of the next year. She prioritizes her work, family medicine, her family, and the betterment of Oklahoma. Join our hosts in an engaging conversation on what Dr. Franklin's goals are for the year and all that is in store under her leadership.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

The Doctor's Lounge is a special session of episodes that we are excited to debut with guest, Colton Want! In the Doctor's Lounge, we will hear interesting cases and discuss primary care in more rare capacities than the day to day may be. For this episode, Colton joins us to discuss an interesting case he ran into recently with a patient that left him perplexed and required a lot of attention to serve that patient well. What was the diagnosis? Tune in to find out!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this follow-up episode, we continue our conversation on geriatrics, exploring advanced strategies for supporting older adults and addressing the unique challenges they face. Our guest delves deeper into topics like managing chronic conditions, promoting independence, and navigating complex care systems. Don’t miss the second part of this insightful discussion with Dr. Salinas—it’s packed with wisdom you’ll want to hear!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode, we dive into the world of geriatrics with our expert guest, who shares insights on caring for older adults, the importance of preventive care, and how to support aging populations with dignity and compassion. Whether you're a healthcare professional, caregiver, or simply curious about aging well, this conversation offers valuable takeaways on improving quality of life for older patients.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join Dr. Whitney Crowe in this empowering episode of Real Talk with Dr. Crowe as she dives into the world of women’s health and family medicine. From her personal journey into family medicine to the passion that fuels her daily practice, Dr. Crowe shares why this specialty is not only vital but deeply rewarding. She breaks down practical ways for clinicians to stay sharp with hands-on skills, offers tips for maintaining procedural confidence, and highlights the essential procedures every primary care provider should be comfortable performing. Whether you're a student, resident, or practicing clinician, this episode is packed with insight, motivation, and practical pearls to elevate your care.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

This podcast explores the full spectrum of women’s health—from the first signs of puberty to the challenges of menopause and everything in between. Dr. Crowe shines a light on the physical, emotional, and hormonal shifts women experience throughout life, tackling topics often left out of the mainstream conversation. From menstrual health, fertility, and mental health to body image, relationships, and aging—we’re creating space for honest, empowering dialogue. With expert insight from Crowe and real stories, this show is about taking care of the whole woman—mind, body, and soul—at every stage of life.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

The latter half of the episode explores Dr. Clarke’s vision for collaboration across medicine, education, and policy through initiatives like the Healthier Oklahoma Coalition. She provides actionable advice for physicians, families, and educators interested in contributing to these efforts. Dr. Clarke also reflects on the responsibilities physicians have beyond the clinic, emphasizing the importance of addressing social determinants of health and advocating for systemic change. Finally, she shares her thoughts on what she would change about the current healthcare system to better serve patients and communities.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode, Dr. Palmer and Dr. Veer sit down with Dr. Mary Clarke, a dedicated physician at Stillwater Medical Physicians Clinic and past president of the Oklahoma State Medical Association (OSMA). Dr. Clarke shares her inspiring journey from earning her medical degree in Oklahoma to becoming a leading voice in public health advocacy. She discusses the role of OSMA, her experiences navigating the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the lessons learned about communication, misinformation, and rebuilding public trust. With honesty and insight, Dr. Clarke reflects on how physicians can use advocacy to create meaningful change and why collaboration across all specialties is essential for the future of healthcare in Oklahoma.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

The conversation shifts to innovations and challenges in sports medicine. Dr. Barrett shares insights from working with the Oklahoma City Thunder and at the Olympics and Paralympics, including his experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Owens discusses his excitement about the future of the field and how training has evolved under modern advancements like ultrasound and AI. Both physicians explore the unique challenges of team care and leave listeners with a deeper appreciation of sports medicine’s integral role in family medicine.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In the first part of this episode, Dr. Jim Barrett reflects on his trailblazing career in sports medicine, including his vision for the OU Sports Medicine Fellowship and the program's significant milestones. Dr. Thomas Owens shares his journey as a lifelong OU trainee and now a faculty member shaping the future of the field. Together, they discuss the true scope of sports medicine within family medicine and highlight its impact beyond professional athletes, focusing on how care is tailored for people of all ages and activity levels.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In the latter part of the episode, Dr. Steven Sacket discusses the unique dynamics of interprofessional teams in free clinic settings, particularly the involvement of medical and nursing students. He highlights how these clinics serve as invaluable training grounds, fostering a spirit of collaboration and compassion among the next generation of healthcare providers. Dr. Sacket reflects on how his work with underserved populations has shaped his perspective as a physician and shares insights on creating sustainable care models for vulnerable communities. By leveraging the power of advocacy, education, and innovation, he offers a vision for how family medicine can continue to bridge gaps and transform lives.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In the first half of this episode, Dr. Steven Sacket delves into his journey with free clinics, including his time as the medical director of the now-closed Open Arms Clinic in Oklahoma City. He provides insights into the essential role free clinics play in our healthcare system, serving as a lifeline for those who are uninsured or underinsured. Dr. Sacket explains what a free clinic is, the types of patients they typically serve, and the creative ways these clinics are funded. He also shares how family physicians navigate the complexities of providing comprehensive care with limited resources, highlighting the unique skills and adaptability family doctors bring to this work.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Season 2 continues with the second half of our conversation with Dr. Sam Ratermann, a dedicated family physician and hospitalist at Integris Health in Grove, Oklahoma. In this episode, Dr. Ratermann expands on the unique challenges and rewards of practicing hospital medicine as a family physician. He shares compelling stories from his work in hospice care, advocacy for vulnerable patients, and the evolving role of family medicine in rural communities. Tune in for an inspiring discussion on the impact of trust, adaptability, and compassion in healthcare.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Season 2 of Fast Talks with Family Docs kicks off strong with guest, Dr. Sam Ratermann! Dr. Ratermann is a family physician and hospitalist at Integris Health in Grove, Oklahoma, whose extraordinary career exemplifies the versatility of family medicine. A past president of the Oklahoma Academy of Family Physicians and a key advocate during the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Ratermann shares insights from his diverse roles, including hospice care and advocacy for abused children. We’ll explore the unique perspective family physicians bring to hospital medicine, the rewards of end-of-life care, and the critical role of trust in building healthier communities.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Things are moving fast and furious at the Oklahoma Capitol and Kari Webber sits down for a special episode outside normal scheduling because there are things you need to know! Here is what you can expect to be discussed:Bills Supporting Physicians & Patients:- SB 875 (Sen. Rosino)- HB 1808SB 1050Bills of Concern – Scope of Practice Expansions & Other Risks:- SB 741 (Pharmacy Bill)- HB 2051- HB 2298 (Rep. Carl Newton) & HB 2584 (Rep. Kyle Hilbert)- HB 1812 (Now Rolled into HB 2298, Rep. Hilbert)Tune in as we break it all down and provide actionable ways for you to make your voice heard. Don’t forget to subscribe and stay informed!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In Part Two of this Fast Talks with Family Docs episode, Dr. Jenna Geohagan dives deeper into her journey at the Central Oklahoma Family Medicine Center and the impact of working in an FQHC. She shares how her Thanksgiving dinner initiative fosters community and how her coffee business, Drip Coffee Company, blends entrepreneurship with her passion for health. Tune in for more insights on mentorship, innovation, and making a difference in patient care and beyond!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, Dr. Phil Palmer and Dr. Veer Vedala welcome Dr. Jenna Geohagan, a dedicated family physician, community health advocate, and entrepreneur. Dr. Geohagan shares her journey from residency at the Great Plains Family Medicine Program to practicing outpatient family medicine at Central Oklahoma Family Medicine Center in Seminole, Oklahoma. She discusses the unique challenges and rewards of working in a federally qualified health center (FQHC), her innovative community initiatives like organizing a Thanksgiving dinner for 300 people, and her entrepreneurial venture, Drip Coffee Company. Tune in for inspiring stories of mentorship, patient care, and community impact!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, we dive into key legislative initiatives shaping the future of family medicine in Oklahoma. Join us as we unpack Senate Bills 1808, 875, and House Bill 1812 specifically. The episode emphasizes the importance of evidence-based policies and calls on physicians to advocate for patient safety and streamlined administrative processes. Stay informed and inspired to make a difference in your community!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this exciting continuation, we welcome back Dr. Misty Bogle, past president of the Oklahoma Academy of Family Physicians, for Part Two of her insightful discussion. Dr. Bogle dives deeper into the challenges and triumphs of family medicine, shares her perspective on the evolving healthcare landscape, and explores the art of finding balance between a fulfilling career and a family life you love. Don’t miss this engaging conversation filled with wisdom, inspiration, and practical takeaways for medical professionals at every stage of their journey.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Welcome to the first episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs for the new year! In Part One of this two-part series, we sit down with Dr. Misty Bogle, past president of the Oklahoma Academy of Family Physicians, to explore the transformative power of prioritizing patient well-being in direct primary care. Dr. Bogle shares how focusing on patient-centered care builds confidence—both for patients and providers—and creates meaningful, lasting impacts in family medicine.Join us as we dive into her insights on fostering trust, strengthening relationships, and redefining what it means to truly put patients first. Whether you're a seasoned family physician, a resident, or simply passionate about quality care, this episode is the perfect way to kick off the year!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Join us as we reflect on a remarkable year in family medicine and the milestones we've achieved together. This season we are filled with gratitude, celebration, and a heartfelt message for the community we have built. Tune in to share in the joy, and let’s look forward to another incredible year ahead!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this continuation of our conversation with Dr. Rachel Franklin, we dive deeper into her perspectives on preventive care and its pivotal role in today’s healthcare landscape. As Vice Chair of Family and Preventive Medicine, Dr. Franklin shares effective strategies for promoting preventive practices among patients and the importance of integrating advocacy into daily clinical work. She also reflects on the key issues she’s most passionate about within healthcare. Join us for the second half of this engaging discussion with a leader dedicated to improving health and empowering communities.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, we chat with Dr. Rachel Franklin, Physician Executive for Community Health and Primary Care at OU. Dr. Franklin shares how she began her journey in hospital leadership and what inspired her to take on a role in healthcare administration. We explore the challenges and rewards of leading clinical care across diverse areas and how advancements in telehealth and community-based care have shaped her role. Tune in for insights from a leader at the forefront of modern healthcare!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join us in this second part of this special episode where your hosts, Dr. Veer Vedala and Dr. Phil Palmer, interview each other! As ours hosts continue to dive into their careers and lives behind the microphone, we know you don't want to miss it!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join us in tuning in to this special episode where your hosts, Dr. Veer Vedala and Dr. Phil Palmer, interview each other! The voices and men behind the microphone bring so much to the table both for the podcast but also as a doctor in their places of work. This special episode is something you do not want to miss!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In the second part of our conversation with Dr. Charles Womack, former president of the Oklahoma Academy of Family Physicians, we dive deeper into his remarkable journey in family medicine. Dr. Womack reflects on the pivotal moments in his career, including continuing to discuss his transition into aviation medicine, and shares insightful advice for both new and seasoned physicians. Tune in as we explore how his passion for patient care, community health, and even the skies above continues to shape his work today. Don’t miss this fascinating continuation with a true leader in the field.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, hosts Dr. Phil Palmer and Dr. Veer Vedala are joined by a special guest, Dr. Charles Womack. With a medical career spanning nearly 50 years, Dr. Womack has been a cornerstone of Oklahoma's medical community. He reflects on his journey from starting his family medicine practice in 1976, serving as OAFP President from 1988-1989, and being named Oklahoma Family Physician of the Year in 2015.Now retired from full-time practice, Dr. Womack shares his current role as an aviation medical examiner at Wylie Post Airport, where he ensures pilots are medically fit to fly. The conversation also touches on his leadership in the OAFP, the evolution of healthcare technology, and his lifelong love of flying. Tune in for a fascinating look at the intersection of medicine, leadership, and aviation.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this special episode, newly elected OAFP President Dr. Abbey Woods outlines her key goals for her term, focusing on the importance of empowering one another within the family medicine community. Dr. Woods emphasizes the need for strong support systems among physicians, sharing her vision for fostering collaboration, mentorship, and mutual growth. Join us as she discusses practical strategies for building a connected network of family doctors, aimed at enhancing both personal and professional development during her presidency.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, we continue our conversation with Dr. Steven Crawford, a seasoned family physician with a wealth of stories and experiences. In part two, Dr. Crawford delves deeper into the pivotal moments that have shaped his career, sharing insights on his journey in family medicine. He also discusses the future of the field, his hopes for where it’s headed, and the causes he’s most passionate about. Join us for another engaging and inspiring dialogue that highlights the heart of family medicine!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

On this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, sit down with our hosts Dr. Veer Vedala and Dr. Phil Palmer as they dive into experiences and impacts made by Dr. Steven Crawford in the world of family medicine in Oklahoma. Learn more about the legacy of Dr. Crawford as he shares things that are important to him in his career as well as hear some of his experiences and what he has learned and continues to strive for. Definitely an episode you do not want to miss!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, our hosts sit down with Dr. Julie McIntosh, a current candidate for the Oklahoma Senate District 3. Learn more about Dr. McIntosh's vision and objectives for the role as well as her goals for policy and what she is bringing to the table as a family physician herself.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this insightful continuation of our conversation with Dr. Mitch Duininck, we delve even deeper into the vital role of family medicine and the significance of being a dedicated family physician in today's healthcare landscape. Building on the themes of trust and patient relationships from the first episode, Dr. Duininck shares more of his experiences and wisdom, highlighting advanced strategies for fostering patient trust and enhancing overall well-being.Join us as Dr. Duininck discusses the challenges and rewards of maintaining passion in the medical field, and how a genuine commitment to patient care and continuous professional growth can make a profound difference. This episode also explores the evolving dynamics in healthcare and the innovative approaches that family physicians can adopt to meet these changes head-on.Whether you're a seasoned medical professional or an aspiring physician, this episode offers valuable insights into the heart of family medicine. Tune in to hear Dr. Duininck's inspiring perspective on why passion and patient relationships remain essential to the practice of family medicine, and learn how to navigate the complexities of modern healthcare with compassion and dedication.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

In this insightful episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs, we sit down with Dr. Mitch Duinick to explore the vital role of family medicine and the significance of being a dedicated family physician in today's healthcare landscape. Dr. Duinick shares his experiences and wisdom on the importance of cultivating strong patient relationships, which are the cornerstone of effective and compassionate care.Join us as Dr. Duinick delves into how building trust with patients enhances their overall well-being and the practice of medicine. He also emphasizes the need for passion in the field, discussing how a genuine commitment to patient care and continuous growth can make a profound difference in the lives of both patients and physicians.Whether you're a seasoned medical professional or an aspiring physician, this episode offers valuable insights into the heart of family medicine. Tune in to hear Dr. Duinick's inspiring perspective on why passion and patient relationships are essential to the practice of family medicine.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join our doctors, Dr. Palmer and Dr. Vedala, as they continue their discussion with Dr. Calin Kirk. Dr. Kirk is a family physician with the Cherokee Nation in Jay, OK and really brings in a powerful conversation in this final part of what her job looks like. This part of the episode is definitely one you don't want to miss!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join us for Fast Talks with Family Docs' fifth episode as our hosts, Dr. Palmer and Dr. Vedala sit down with Cherokee Nation's very own Dr. Calin Kirk.Dr. Kirk is a physician at the Cherokee Nation’s Sam Hider Clinic in Jay, Oklahoma, where she has practiced for 6 years. She did her residency training at the OU-Tulsa School of Community Medicine. Throughout this episode, we not only learn more about Dr. Kirk and her practice but also some different challenges and practices that she has been able to do in her work as a physician. No matter what your practice may look like or if you are a student or resident, you definitely don't want to miss it!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Join us for a compelling new episode of Fast Talks with Family Docs! This week, our esteemed hosts, Dr. Vedala and Dr. Palmer, sit down with OAFP Executive Vice President Kari Webber to dissect the key outcomes of the 2024 legislative session.In this episode, we dive into the critical decisions that were made—and those that weren't—that will shape the future of family medicine in Oklahoma. Kari Webber offers her unique perspective and expertise on how these legislative changes will impact our practice, our patients, and our community.Whether you're a practicing family physician, a medical student, or simply passionate about healthcare policy, this episode provides essential insights into the legislative landscape affecting family medicine in Oklahoma. You don't want to miss it!www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Welcome back to the second part of our enlightening conversation with Dr. Kyle Rickner, MD, owner, co-founder, and Chairman of the Board for Primary Health Partners, a pioneering Direct Primary Care (DPC) clinic in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma!In this follow-up episode, Dr. Palmer and Dr. Vedala delve deeper into the transformative potential of Direct Primary Care with Dr. Rickner. Building on the foundation laid in Part One, they explore the intricate details of DPC's impact on both patients and healthcare providers.Join us as Dr. Rickner continues to share his insights and experiences, offering a comprehensive understanding of how DPC is revolutionizing healthcare delivery in Oklahoma and beyond. Gain a deeper appreciation for the personalized care, transparent pricing, and patient-focused approach that define the essence of Direct Primary Care. Whether you're a healthcare professional, an entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of medicine, this episode is a must-listen! www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com

Whether you're a healthcare professional, an entrepreneur, or simply curious about the future of medicine, this episode is for you! Tune in as Dr. Palmer and Dr. Vedala sit down to discuss the truth about Direct Primary Care in Oklahoma with Dr. Kyle Rickner.Kyle Rickner, MD is the owner, co-founder, and Chairman of the Board for Primary Health Partners. Primary Health Partners is a direct primary care clinic based in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma! In this episode, Dr. Rickner shares his journey of owning and co-founding this DPC practice in Oklahoma, shedding light on the transformative potential of this model for both patients and providers.Discover the essence of Direct Primary Care as Dr. Rickner demystifies its principles and advantages, offering a fresh perspective on how it challenges traditional healthcare paradigms. From personalized care to transparent pricing, learn how DPC is reshaping the healthcare landscape in Oklahoma and beyond.www.fasttalkswithfamilydocs.com