PODCAST · religion
Grey Pages
by Brave Cities
Hugh Halter, Taylor McCall, and Jon Dengler discuss faith, church, and cultivating Kingdom ecosystems. There are no white papers for Brave Cities - the best we can offer are Grey Pages.
Episodes
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S3 E21 The Dezi Sessions | What about Judgement?
Closing out season 3 with our brother Dezi
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S3 E20 Family on Mission | Fireside Chat
This is a glimpse into one of our fireside chats that brought together a bunch of families from all over to share about their experience being on mission together as a family.
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S3 E19 You Can't Make the Narrow Path Wide
With Hugh and Taylor
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S3 E18 Come Out of Her
Another round with just Taylor and Jon. Taylor shares about some big decisions that his family has recently made and Jon wonders if we might all just be heretics.
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S3 E17 Switch Tracks to Brave Cities
Jon and Taylor open the episode with a conversation about the word 'deserve' and then just let the conversation unfold from there.
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S3 E16 The Dezi Sessions | Release Your Reluctance
In this episode Dezi leads the crew into a dialogue about demonic deceptions and dynamics that are aimed at thwarting the presence of authentic, vulnerable, and available kingdom movements. These deceptions, that he describes as universal across different cultures, are fostering victimhood,...
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S3 E15 Do You Need to be Compelling?
Hugh kicks the guys off with this question and it turned into a really interesting exploration.
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S3 E14 The Dezi Sessions | The Future of Kingdom Movement
In this episode Dezi and Taylor got to do a 1 on 1
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S3 E13 Dezi Sessions | The Posture of Surrender: In the Crosshairs of the Stranger
Dezi and the crew spend some time reflecting on the centrality of hospitality and the stranger ethic.
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S3 E12 Stop Yelling at the Ground or Sky & Pick up a Shovel
Jon and Hugh opened the show with some thoughts on hospitality and then Taylor threw the boys one of his curveballs which always leads to fun conversations. At the heart of this conversation might be the question "What makes movement?"
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S3 E11 Funding an Ekklesial Renaissance
"When we talk about an Ekklesial Renaissance, it's different than a reformation, it's different from a protest, it's a rediscovery of what's always been. "
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S3 E10 The Fun of No Funding | Success v Faithfulness
This episode is a bit of a therapy session for the boys as they reflect on some of the existential realities that we all face when it comes to resources.
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S3 E9 Dezi Sessions | True Strength & Beauty w/ Leslie Kim
We are so grateful that Leslie Kim was able to join us for this episode of Dezi Sessions!
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S3 E8 Dezi Sessions | Take Your Shot
In this episode Lindsey joins Taylor for another chat with Dezi
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S3 E7 Dezi Sessions | Calling All Angels
You don't wanna miss this one!
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S3 E6 Dezi Sessions | Prisoners of Hope & Justice Deferred
We are back with another incredible conversations with our big brother Dezi
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S3 E5 Dezi Sessions | The Purpose & The Powers
We are so grateful for these sessions with Dezi
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S3 E4 Dezi Sessions | The Lonely Road
We are super excited to kick off this series with Dezi Baker. Buckle up!
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S3 E3 Foolish & Weak Things
"But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong"
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S3 E2 On Earth As.... with Renee Boucher
A great conversations with one of Hugh's longtime co-conspirators
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S3 E1 The Work is the Ram
and we are back!
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S2 Ep 23 Give Me a Shovel: Stories from the Frontlines w/ Olsen & Stice
In this episode, we welcome Carl Olson and Justin Stice, two faithful practitioners embedded in very different but equally meaningful contexts. Carl joins us from Sioux Falls, South Dakota, where he's in the early stages of planting seeds for a Kingdom ecosystem, often feeling isolated but deeply...
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S2 E22 Brave Ladies- An Unpredictible, Authentic Adventure
This week on Grey Pages, we flip the script with a long-overdue ladies takeover episode! For the first time ever, we hear directly from the women who have been holding it down behind the scenes of the Brave Cities movement. Join Bree Linderman, Chelsea Repic, Cheryl Halter, and Lindsey McCall—the...
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S2 E21 Communities of Desire
In this episode, the Brave Cities crew explores a different kind of organizing principle: shared desire. Rather than building around outcomes, metrics, or even vision, we ask what happens when a community is rooted in a mutual longing — for Jesus, for justice, for neighbor love, for the poor, for...
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S2E20 Love the Soil, Love the Work
– Lessons from Senegal with Joel Repic In this special episode of the Grey Pages podcast, Joel Repic joins the team live from Senegal to share a deeply moving reflection on mission, suffering, and the slow, faithful cultivation of Kingdom ecosystems. What begins as a simple story about a fruit...
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S2 E19 Benevolent Trauma | A Pathway to Change
👣 Episode Overview What does it take to move from inspiration to action? In this episode, the Brave Cities crew is joined by digital strategist and pathway architect Jason Bowman, alongside longtime co-laborer Joel Repic from Aliquippa, PA. Together, they tackle the growing desire among church...
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S2 E18 David Godbout | Play the Long Game: A Lower Branch & A Lower Bar
In this episode, Jon, Hugh, and Taylor sit down with their longtime friend David Gobout from St. Louis to unpack the gritty, raw, and faithful journey of community-rooted ministry. David shares his evolution from entering a marginalized neighborhood with the classic church planting mindset to...
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S2 E17 A Pipeline for Unicorns
In this episode, the crew tackles a pressing question in the life of any ecosystem-building movement: How do we cultivate a pipeline of uniquely gifted, missionally brave, and spiritually aligned leaders—aka “unicorns”—to step into under-resourced communities? From college campuses to early…
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S2 Ep16 The Axiom of Anonymity
In this episode, the team dives deep into one of the more nuanced and often overlooked ideas in the book—anonymity. What does it mean to “not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing”? Why did Jesus warn against broadcasting our good works—and how does this relate to the current...
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S2 E15 Life Together??
On the very first day of 2025, we sat down with our longtime friend and Brave Cities team member, Joel Repic, who live and works in Aliquippa, PA. Joel shares stories and reflections from life alongside the Community of Celebration, a Benedictine-inspired order that’s been living, praying, and...
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S2 E14 Jessie Cruikshank | The Dream Crusher | Deep Learning, Brain Science, & Discipleship
🎙️ Episode Summary In this episode, we sit down with Jesse Cruikshank—neuroscientist, author, missional strategist, and former roller derby player (yes, really!)—to dive deep into the brain science of discipleship. We unpack how our understanding of spiritual formation has been shaped more by…
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S2 E13 Revelation, Deduction, the King, & the Kingdom
In this episode, we reflect on a recent gathering of denominational leaders where we shared our vision for Brave Cities and the idea of a Kingdom ecosystem. We discuss the challenges of church planting models that focus primarily on gathering people rather than transforming communities, and we...
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S2 E12 Denominational Dilemmas & Opportunities
In this episode the team is talking through challenges and opportunities that they might anticipate as they prepare for a trip to speak with a large group of denominational leadership about brave cities
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S2 E11 Telling a more Beautiful Story W/ Daniel Yang
We all wanted this convo to last forever! We are sure you will feel similarly.
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S2 E 10 Pondering the Gathering
After years without any formal gathering, Hugh and Jon spend a little time talking through it as the Alton community is beginning to think about setting this table.
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S2 E9 Patrons & Apostolic Funding
This weeks episode is a fun one! The crew is reflecting on questions around patrons and apostolic funding. We would love to hear your take-aways from the episode
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S2 E8 | Hard Work | Breaking the Curse w/ Lindsey McCall
We have Lindsey back to dig into the concept and value of hard work in kingdom life.
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S2 Ep 7 Brave City Life & the Family w/ Lindsey McCall
We are often asked about the way a Brave Cities style life impacts our families. In this episode we are joined by Taylor's wife Lindsey to finally dig into it.
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S2 E6 Church Planting as an Ecosystem | w/ Exponential
This is an episode the Hugh and Taylor did with Exponential's Church Next Podcast during a series of the Future of Multiplication. We really enjoyed the conversation and are excited to share the episode with you here.
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S2 E5 Mission, Unity, & Collaboration W/ Brian Sanders
We finally got some time set aside to sit down with Brian Sanders to discuss some of his recent work and thinking about collaboration and unity in the Body of Christ.
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S2 E4 Money in the Bank or Bread on the Trail
In this episode Hugh and Taylor let listeners in on some very challenging questions that their community has been wrestling with recently. It's a really great look into challenges builders face, impossible decisions that communities must make, and the risk implied in each step of faith.
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S2 E3 "There's a Hook in Me"
Here is a link to the scene referenced in this episode
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S2 E2 Is Church an Insult to History?
In this episode the team shares and reflects on a TED talk by Dan Barber that might be the ideal parable for the vision of Brave Cities.
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S2 E1 Ears to Hear | Invitation Over Correction w/ Lance Ford
We're back!!! Welcome to Season Two of Grey Pages! In this episode we were joined by Lance Ford to wrestle with the question of what the spirit of God might be saying to the Church today. We had a great time reflecting on and exploring the question together and we hope you enjoy it as much as we...
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A Timely Discussion | Hurricanes, Apocalypse, & Storm Chasers
We just recorded this as part of season 2 but decided to go ahead and release it right away since it is fresh on everyone's minds. We plan to start releasing season 2 episode at the beginning of November!
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Brave Cities Primer
Hugh & Taylor had the opportunity to share at the 2024 Microchurches Conference and we wanted to share the session with you here! enjoy
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Season 1 Wrap Up
We have come to the end of season one! In this episode we reflect a bit on the journey of both recording these convos as well as writing the manuscript for the Brave Cities book. We share some plans we have about further developing these conversations over the break. While we may share some…
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Ep 26 ReWire with JD Ward
In this episode Taylor and Hugh dig into the story and work of ReWire with JD Ward. ReWire is an incredible missionary order that is working with practitioners that are establishing kingdom outposts in strategic places throughout the word. They are helping these missional leaders learn rhythms…
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Ep 25 Practitioners, Developing a Taste for Mission w/ Dezi Baker & Neil Cole
This conversation with Dezi and Neil was recorded in person while together in Kansas City for a gathering of microchurch networks. We stole away into a side room and had an incredible conversation about so many things, among which were topics like the prophetic and apostolic combo, the principles...
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Ep 24 The Future & Our Deepest Kingdom Instincts W/ Alan Hirsch
This episode is a very candid conversation with Alan Hirsch. Be warned, it navigates some sad waters at times. We dig into many topics that are so often avoided like death, failure, famine, and the future. Alans insights and encouragements were so good for each of us to hear and we hope you find...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Hugh Halter, Taylor McCall, and Jon Dengler discuss faith, church, and cultivating Kingdom ecosystems. There are no white papers for Brave Cities - the best we can offer are Grey Pages.
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Hugh Halter, Taylor McCall, and Jon Dengler discuss faith, church, and cultivating Kingdom ecosystems. There are no white papers for Brave Cities - the best we can offer are Grey Pages.
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