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Hangar DX Podcast
by Ankit Jain
The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast
Episodes
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Nobody Needs a 50,000-Line PR with Ray Myers
"I feel this is a non-solution to a non-problem that is being given so much credence for very dubious reasons, and in general, it will be harmful.” On HangarDX, Ankit Jain talks with Ray Myers, a software developer and coding-agent expert, about why the push toward dark software factories, where...
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Why Teams Only Pretend to Review AI Code with Dr. Michaela Greiler
"We just pretend to do code reviews. I'm wading through this large PR, and I try to understand what's going on and be smart, but the fact is that I don't really know what's going on." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Dr. Michaela…
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Uncle Bob: Humans Are Too Slow for AI-Generated Code
"My working hypothesis is that human beings are too slow when dealing with code. If we're going to move at the speed of the agents, we're all going to have to back off a little bit and maintain high-level supervision." On this episode of HangarDX, Ankit Jain sits down with Robert C. Martin (Uncle...
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Your Developers Are Building Their Own Roads. Now What?
David Curlewis, Senior Engineering Manager at Canva, joins Ankit Jain on HangarDX to talk about what happens to platform teams when AI gives every developer a bulldozer. Why platform teams should go down a layer and offer primitives instead of full highways, and How inner sourcing and a…
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Why Dropbox Built Their Own AI Coding Platform
"The tools are so powerful that people actually want to manage them themselves. Everything is just moving up a tier of thinking.'" Chris Hodges and Kevin Altschuler from Dropbox's Agentic Experience team join Ankit Jain on the HangarDX podcast to talk about why they built Nova, their internal...
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Code Review Is a Taste Problem | David Poll @GitHub
"It's not 'Do I read or not read the code.' It's "Does my attention get directed to where it's actually useful?'" David Poll, head of GitHub's Code & Review organization, joins Ankit Jain on the HangarDX podcast to talk about what code review actually does and why it was never really about…
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How AI Broke Developer Productivity Measurement with Brian Houck(DX)
"As an industry, I feel like we've lost our minds. Teams are throwing away everything they've learned over the last many decades about how to effectively measure our engineering experiences. And we're not even just throwing it away. We're making negative progress." Brian Houck, applied scientist…
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What Happens to Code Review When Agents Write the Code with Vanitha Kumar, Thoughtworks
Vanitha Kumar, Market Technology Director at Thoughtworks, joins Ankit Jain to talk about how code review holds up when agents are writing most of the code. In this episode, they get into: Why pre-integration is no longer the only place review should happen, and How teams decide what's even worth...
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Multiplayer Development, AI Enablement, and the PR Review Crisis — Frances Coronel, Slack
Frances Coronel is a senior software engineer on the agentic SDLC team at Slack, where she builds AI-powered developer tooling and helps enable engineers and non-engineers alike in the agentic era. In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast,, Ankit Jain, CEO of Aviator, talks to Frances about : How...
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Dark Factories, Cargo Cult AI, and Drunk Agents with Geoffrey Huntley
"A software factory is essentially a CNC machine. Without training, many people are going to cut off their hands." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Geoffrey Huntley, AI and software engineering practitioner, creator of Ralph Loop, and...
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"We Don't Use AI to Produce Magic", Wayne Duso, 1Password
In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Wayne Duso, VP of Platform and Infrastructure at 1Password, about: - How a security-first company approaches AI adoption without compromising on privacy and trust - Why the bottleneck has shifted from...
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Ship to Production Without Code Review? with Jade Rubick
"Engineering teams need to be thinking about how they can get out of verifying every line of code, because otherwise they're going to be completely buried in that and will absolutely be the bottleneck." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to...
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The Hidden Cost of AI-Generated Code: Cognitive Debt and Intent Debt
"I define cognitive debt as being that understanding of what the system is doing and why, and who knows what across the team." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, Professor of Computer Science and Canada Research...
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All In on Claude Code at 400-Engineer Scale with Brian Scanlan, Intercom
"You assemble a senior engineer out of hundreds of these skills. Each one is a little building block. We take the time and sweat the details on making sure they are great and almost near perfect at what they do." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator,...
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Are You Using AI to Go Faster in the Wrong Direction? | Steve Pereira on Flow and Engineering
"We can be in a flow state running in the wrong direction. Unless you can tie all your actions back to your strategic imperative, you might look back in five years and think: That was fun, but could I have gotten further?" In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of...
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How Honeycomb Is 2Xing Its Engineers with AI
“Our internal target is to 2X our impact with AI over one year. Unlike some more outlandish mandates, that one is both aspirational and achievable,” says Emily Nakashima, SVP of Engineering at Honeycomb. In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Emily shares how Honeycomb approached AI adoption…
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Scaling AI Adoption Across Engineering Teams with Ryan J. Salva
"The future is already here, it's just unevenly distributed.", says Ryan J. Salva, Google and GitHub dev tools veteran. Ryan also shares: How OpenAI nearly took down GitHub's servers and how that incident seeded the creation of Copilot The five stages of autonomous engineering and why most teams...
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Build, Deploy, and Merge Queues at Scale with Jon Block
“Engineers don’t always like merge queue because they have to wait longer for their PRs to merge. But the trade-off is that the quality of those merges will be higher, and the company will have less downtime and outages,” says Jon Block, founder of LowRouchAdvisor. Using a merge queue is like...
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Engineering Discipline in the AI Era with Dave Farley
The way that AI is changing software engineering is a bigger shift than object-oriented programming, the internet, and Agile together.", says Dave Farley, author of Continuous Delivery and Modern Software Engineering. Dave also shares why programming languages were designed to help engineers...
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Platform Engineering Is Not a Tool
One of the most common mistakes organizations make is equating platform engineering with a piece of software. Backstage is the most visible example. Teams adopt it and declare that they now “have a platform.” In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator…
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The Gap Between AI Hype and Developer Productivity
“How much productivity is AI actually giving your engineering teams?” is the wrong question. In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks with Yegor Denisov-Blanch, researcher at Stanford University, about how engineering productivity is actually...
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How Block Deployed AI Agents Company-Wide in 2 Months
What happens when a single engineer’s side project turns into a company-wide AI platform used by every department—engineering, product, marketing, finance, customer support, and sales? In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Block’s VP of Engineering Angie Jones shares the inside story of how...
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Measuring Developer Productivity at Meta
"Measuring developer productivity is fundamental now that we're observing the largest change in software engineering in a decade. I'm happy we have our traditional productivity metrics in a good place so we can better observe the effect of AI." Moritz Beller is a software engineering researcher…
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Software Engineering Identity Crisis with Annie Vella
“Many of us became software engineers because we found our identity in building things. Not managing things. Not overseeing things. Building things. With our own hands, our own minds, our own code. But that identity is being challenged.” In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain,...
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Agent Experience and the Future of Web Development with Matt Biilmann, CEO of Netlify
“We're seeing the rise of a new persona that uses our products, the autonomous agent. That means we need to design for them, too. Agent Experience (AX) is about creating products that agents can navigate, integrate with, and orchestrate effectively.” In this episode, Matt Biilmann, CEO and...
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DevEx Is About Making the Car Faster, Not the Driver
"Let’s not worry about how fast somebody can run. Let’s assume that they will be fast if they’re in a rocket." In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Shahab Malik, DevEx UX Researcher at JP Morgan Chase, discusses researching developers' needs and pain points in a 70,000-engineer organization...
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DevOps, AI, and the Future of Engineering with Patrick Debois
Patrick Debois—widely known as the “Godfather of DevOps” and co-author of The DevOps Handbook—joins Aviator CEO Ankit Jain on The Hangar DX Podcast to explore the parallels between the DevOps movement and today’s AI revolution. In this conversation, Patrick compares AI adoption to the early…
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Everything Wrong With Developer Productivity Metrics with Adam Berry
"Metrics will not measure developer productivity and will not solve your engineering organization’s problems", say Adam Berry, Staff Engineer at Netflix. Adam sits with Ankit Jain, host of The Hangar DX podcast, to discuss one of the most debated topics in engineering: developer productivity...
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The Future of Engineering Leadership in the Age of AI
"In the next 10-15 years, I'm either going to be a CTO cleaning up after AI, or maybe there won't be people like me anymore because we're just going to write the specs and generate the whole app from scratch every time" In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of...
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Developer Experience in the Age of AI with Chris Westerhold
“What’s your AI strategy’ is the wrong question for engineering leaders. A better one would be: “What are you doing to improve engineering efficiency by 15–20%?” You don’t have to chase AI just for AI’s sake. Instead, focus on the biggest pain point, on whatever is slowing your teams down. In…
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The Limitations of Platform Engineering with Vilas Veeraraghavan and Bryan Finster
What Actually Is Platform Engineering? Platform engineering is everywhere — but is it just DevOps with a new name? In this candid conversation, Ankit Jain sits down with Vilas Veeraghavan (ex-Walmart, ex-Netflix) and Bryan Finster (platform advocate and continuous delivery expert) to break down…
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Augmenting Engineers With AI with Daniel Doubrovkine
"Augmenting engineers with AI wherever it makes sense so they can be more productive" is the mission of Daniel Doubrovkine and his Augmented Engineering team at Shopify. In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Daniel about AI’s impact on…
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Measuring Cycle Time with Dr. Cat Hicks
Dr. Cat Hicks, a psychologist researching software teams, on what cycle time can and can't measure, why software metrics are hard, and why developers feel their work is invisible. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,...
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Fearless deployments with Charity Majors
Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb, on the importance of creating a culture where shipping code is a regular, expected practice, and how organizations can transition to continuous deployment. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus...
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Developer Experience and AI in GovTech with Tracy Bannon from MITRE
Seasoned technologist Tracy Bannon from MITRE discusses the role of software engineering, developer experience and AI in government tech. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co
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Psychological Safety and Fear in Engineering with Titus Winters from Adobe
Titus Winters from Adobe discussed the role of psychological safety and culture as the foundation for high-performing engineering teams. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit podcast.aviator.co
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Mobile Developer Experience at Pinterest
Ryan discusses DevEx organization structure, the unique challenges of mobile development, the evolution of mobile tooling, and practices that enable a successful release cycle. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes…
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How Slack uses AI to improve DevEx with Sridhar Ramakrishnan
Ankit and Sridhar discuss the evolution of Developer Experience (DevEx) at Slack, challenges faced when experimenting with AI, and its significant role in improving developer workflows. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus...
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Being a DevEx PM with Ricky Huynh from Walmart
Ricky Huynh, DevEx Product Manager at Walmart, shares insights into the world of Developer Experience, understanding developer needs, user feedback, and the future of developers and product managers. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access…
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The Evolution of Platform Engineering with Luca Galante
Ankit and Luca discuss the evolving landscape of platform engineering, its relationship with DevOps, and the necessity of Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs) in enhancing developer productivity. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to...
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Code Reviews with Adrienne Tacke, author of Looks Good to Me
Ankit speaks with Adrienne Tacke about the intricacies of code reviews, their importance in developer experience, and how to use metrics effectively without compromising the review process. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus...
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Python for organizations with Josh Cannon from Anthropic
Ankit speaks with Josh Cannon from Anthropic about the evolution and current state of Python, including its use in monorepos, the role of Pants, and challenges faced at scale. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit...
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Productivity dilemma while scaling companies with Cathy Nunez from Confluent
In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit speaks with Cathy Nunez from Confluent about the challenges of developer productivity as organizations scale. Cathy shares her insights on the meaning of developer productivity, the importance of measuring it effectively, and the tools and processes...
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The Hidden Cost of Bazel with Alex Eagle from Aspect Build
In this episode of the Hangar DX Podcast, Ankit Jain and Alex Eagle discuss Bazel, a powerful build system that supports multiple programming languages. They explore the unique features of Bazel, when it’s appropriate to use, and how to get started with implementation. They also cover challenges…
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Scaling CI/CD for Monorepos with Ben Poland from Faire
In this episode, Ankit Jain interviews Ben Poland, a staff platform engineer at Faire, to discuss the intricacies of managing monorepos and enhancing developer experience. Ben explores the rationale behind adopting monorepos, the challenges faced, and the solutions implemented, particularly...
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Continuous Delivery with Bryan Finster from Defense Unicorns
In this episode of the Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain interviews Bryan Finster, a seasoned expert in developer experience and continuous delivery to discuss the evolution of software engineering practices, the importance of continuous delivery, and principles behind achieving it. Bryan shares...
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The Case Against Standardization with Jonathan Magen from Cigna
In this episode of the Hangar DX podcast, Ankit Jain and Jonathan Magen delve into the complexities of standardization in developer experience. They explore the balance between standardization and innovation, discussing how too much standardization can stifle creativity while also recognizing the...
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Case against metrics with Chris Westerhold
In this conversation, Chris, a senior director of engineering effectiveness at HTEC, discusses the importance of developer experience and its impact on productivity. He emphasizes the need for organizations to understand the nuances of developer experience, the role of metrics, and the potential...
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Design Systems with Netlify
In this conversation, Ankit Jain speaks with Kaelig about the intricacies of developer experience (DevEx) and design systems, comparing the dynamics in large organizations like Shopify to smaller ones like Netlify. They explore the definition and ownership of design systems, the importance of...
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Understanding IDPs with Segment
In this episode, Ankit Jain and Jesse Adametz discuss developer platforms (DevEx) and internal developer portals (IDPs). They explore the distinction between portals and platforms, with portals being a UI on top of a spreadsheet-like catalog of services and platforms being more tied into the...
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The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale.
www.aviator.co/podcast
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