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Hannah's Heart
by American Family Association
Hannah’s Heart is a half hour program to encourage couples walking through infertility and miscarriage. It’s about clinging to Christ, the ultimate hope and finding peace and joy in the midst of the journey. Hosted by AFA’s very own Anne Cockrell and Kendra White.
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Bibles for Babies
Anne & Kendra introduce Bibles for Babies 2026. They also give details of their upcoming butterfly release at Fresh Farm on Oct 3 at 10am. They announce the theme of the Hannah’s Heart Gathering in 2027. Refined: Through It All. They also discuss current topics in the news about surrogacy and Baby Gabriel. They pray for Gabriel’s health and the ones who are making decisions for his life. Anne and Kendra end the show by discussing the Lindsay Clancy case and encourage anyone who is experiencing Post-Partum Depression to please seek help. Anyone can email [email protected] to get some resources Link provided below to donate towards Bibles for Babies https://afr.net/biblesforbabies
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Divorce, Infertility and God’s Faithfulness
“How can God be good and allow the wicked to flourish?” thought Wanda as she sat alone in a friend’s basement on her 30th birthday. Not only had her husband broken their sacred wedding vow, but he openly mocked her while celebrating his new life with another woman and a baby on the way. This was not at all where she thought she’d be by age 30. But God met her in her brokenness and revealed His life giving truth in a powerful way!
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Leaning into Contentment
Description: Anne and Kendra share about their most recent Hannah’s Heart Hangout—a sweet time with women who are now walking through different seasons of life. Some are recently walking through loss, while others have experienced the joy of adoption and are now finally expecting. Together, they talk about what it looks like to hold joy and grief at the same time and trust the Lord through it all. Kendra shares what the Lord has recently been teaching her about contentment and what the word “content” actually means in Scripture. As she studied it more deeply, she realized its meaning wasn’t quite what she expected. Anne shares a personal story of how, after saying for years that she was “content,” the Lord met her one day while doing laundry and gently revealed that her heart wasn’t as content as she thought. It’s an honest and encouraging conversation about grief, joy, contentment, and learning to trust the Lord right where He has you.
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Through the Unexpected: A Story of Hope After a Spina Bifida Diagnosis-part 2
Receiving a prenatal diagnosis of spina bifida can leave parents facing overwhelming uncertainty, difficult decisions, and countless unknowns. In this episode, we sit down with Joy Duncan, who courageously shares her family’s journey—from the devastating diagnosis and fetal surgery during pregnancy to months of bed rest, a C-section delivery, a NICU stay, and the ongoing road of recovery. She opens up about the fears that accompanied every step, the success of the prenatal surgery that repaired the portion of Baby Andy’s spine doctors were most concerned about. We talk about the challenges that followed, including treatment for clubbed feet and the reality that healing can be a very long and lonely journey. Most importantly, this is a story of God’s faithfulness. Through every appointment, every setback, every prayer, and every unknown, the Lord provided the strength, peace, and hope they needed for each day. If you are navigating a difficult pregnancy, carrying a prenatal diagnosis, or simply need encouragement to trust God when life doesn’t go as planned, this conversation is a beautiful reminder that He walks with us through every valley. Join us as we talk honestly about fear, faith, perseverance, and the God who remains steadfast through it all. Part 2
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Through the Unexpected: A Story of Hope After a Spina Bifida Diagnosis
Receiving a prenatal diagnosis of spina bifida can leave parents facing overwhelming uncertainty, difficult decisions, and countless unknowns. In this episode, we sit down with Joy Duncan, who courageously shares her family’s journey—from the devastating diagnosis and fetal surgery during pregnancy to months of bed rest, a C-section delivery, a NICU stay, and the ongoing road of recovery. She opens up about the fears that accompanied every step, the success of the prenatal surgery that repaired the portion of Baby Andy’s spine doctors were most concerned about. We talk about the challenges that followed, including treatment for clubbed feet and the reality that healing can be a very long and lonely journey. Most importantly, this is a story of God’s faithfulness. Through every appointment, every setback, every prayer, and every unknown, the Lord provided the strength, peace, and hope they needed for each day. If you are navigating a difficult pregnancy, carrying a prenatal diagnosis, or simply need encouragement to trust God when life doesn’t go as planned, this conversation is a beautiful reminder that He walks with us through every valley. Join us as we talk honestly about fear, faith, perseverance, and the God who remains steadfast through it all.
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Moms In Prayer
Diana Pittman joins Anne and Kendra to discuss a special group known as Moms In Prayer International. This group desiring to impact children and schools by gathering moms together to pray. In this episode you will learn all about this amazing ministry that reaches moms around the world. They have all kinds of resources for guided prayers and encouragement for moms. Also, take time to listen to their podcast to be encouraged as the school year approaches! Visit their website to see the resources shared in the program, and see where you might get involved! https://momsinprayer.org/
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Faith, Attachment, and PCIT
Amanda Frederick joins Anne again on the show, but in this episode, she joins the conversation to share her passion for serving children with neurodivergent disabilities and the families who love them. She discusses how healthy attachment and intentional parenting can create lasting change, highlighting Parent-Child Interaction Therapy (PCIT), an evidence-based approach that strengthens the parent-child relationship, improves communication, and equips parents with practical tools to help their children thrive. Together, we explore how the principles of PCIT beautifully complement biblical truths about God's design for families. Scripture reminds us that children are a gift from the Lord (Psalm 127:3), that parents are called to nurture them with wisdom and love (Ephesians 6:4), and that "love is patient, love is kind" (1 Corinthians 13:4)—qualities that are essential in building trust, security, and healthy attachment. We also reflect on God's own heart as our perfect Father, who draws near, offers grace, and never leaves His children (Psalm 103:13; Hebrews 13:5). Whether you're parenting a neurodivergent child, serving families in ministry, or simply looking for encouragement rooted in both faith and practical wisdom, this conversation offers hope, insight, and biblical encouragement for the journey. You can find Amanda’s first episode here where she shares her own story of infertility. https://youtu.be/_-hL27z9OUc?si=J_KTDniFeT6nzT4G
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Walking “Worthy” of Him with Jane Johnson
Speaker, author, and dear friend, Jane Johnson, joins Anne and Kendra once again for an encouraging conversation about her brand-new Bible study and commentary, Worthy—the first book in her Dig Your Well series. In this episode, Jane shares the heart behind writing Worthy, what readers can expect from this unique study, and how it follows Paul’s missionary journeys through the books of Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and Philemon. Together, they discuss the importance of understanding Scripture in its original setting, and how God’s timeless truth speaks to our lives today. Whether you’re searching for your next Bible study or simply want to grow in your understanding of God’s Word, this conversation will encourage you to DIG deeper into Scripture and discover the richness of God’s faithfulness revealed through Paul’s ministry.
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Called to Life- A Story of Snowflake Adoption
Brett and Erika tell their story of snowflake adoption, which involves a previously frozen embryo.
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The Day they said “YES”- Betsy O’Neal’s adoption story
In this heartfelt episode, Betsy O’Neal shares her adoption story and the beautiful way God has guided her life from the very beginning. Adopted as a newborn, Betsy reflects on her parents’ journey through infertility in the 1960s and the unforgettable moment they were shown her as a newborn and asked if they were certain they wanted to adopt her. Their answer was an immediate and joyful “Yes!” Betsy shares what it was like growing up in a family where she is deeply loved. She offers encouragement and practical advice for families walking through adoption and discusses finding peace with the limited information she has about her biological family. Today, Betsy is thankful for her wonderful husband, her two amazing sons—one of whom looks just like her—and most of all, for Jesus, whose faithfulness has been evident throughout every chapter of her story. This episode is a touching reminder of God’s love, family, belonging, and the beauty of His plans
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Runway for Jesus
Actress, supermodel, Project Runway winner, and beloved child of God, Kalyn King joins Anne and Kendra to discuss what it looks like to share the love of God wherever He places you—even on a runway. Kalyn shares inspiring and entertaining stories from her career, including experiences working with people from many different backgrounds and walks of life. Together, they explore how God used her to point others toward Him in an industry that is often misunderstood, and how faith can shine brightly in any environment. The conversation also highlights Kalyn’s husband, Phil, who holds a special place in the Hannah’s Heart community. Phil has generously supported this ministry by coming to lead worship at the very first Hannah’s Heart Conference. He helped create an atmosphere where women could encounter God’s presence and find hope in the midst of their journeys. His servant-hearted leadership and faithful support have been a meaningful encouragement to the Hannah’s Heart community. This episode is filled with encouragement, testimony, laughter, and practical reminders that God can use anyone, anywhere, to make an impact for His kingdom. Phil’s episode link included below: https://afr.net/podcasts/hannahs-heart/2025/april/a-song-called-miscarriages/
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Speaking to Fathers this Father’s Day
Anne and Kendra’s husbands (Will Cockrell and Eric Knox) join them for a round table discussion about infertility and grief, and how Father’s Day has changed for them throughout the years. The couples answer questions sent in by listeners and hope to bring encouragement to others walking through difficult seasons.
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PCOS changes its name with Dr. Heather Rhodes (hormone and infertility expert)
As of May 21, 2026 PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome)- the leading cause of infertility in women has received a name change. PCOS is now known as PMOS (Polyendocrine Metabolic Syndrome). Join the host of Hannah’s Heart as they discuss the name change and more in-depth information of the common cause of infertility. You can follow Dr. Rhodes on instagram @drheatherrhodes and listen to her podcast“The Hormone Happy Hour” anywhere you listen to podcast. You can email Dr. Rhodes at [email protected] https://afr.net/podcasts/hannahs-heart/2022/05may/strategies-to-balancing-your-hormones
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Karen White How the Holy Spirit Helps Us- faithfully raising adopted children and fostering troubled teens
Kendra's parents, Karen and David, adopted and raised 3 special-needs boys in addition to their 2 biological children. In this episode, Karen Joins Anne and Kendra to talk about the challenges God led them through.
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Lianna's Story: a Decade of Fostering and Adoption-part 2
May is Foster Care Awareness Month. Lianna and her husband never imagined the plans God had for their family which included fostering, adoption, years of uncertainty and a lot of trust. After 4 years, the result was 4 children and a lot of love.
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Lianna's story: a decade of Fostering and Adoption-part 1
May is Foster Care Awareness Month. Lianna and her husband never imagined the plans God had for their family which included fostering, adoption, years of uncertainty and a lot of trust. After 4 years, the result was 4 children and a lot of love.
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Spiritual Warfare and adopting older children
May is foster care awareness month. Even with decades of counseling experience, Dave and Karen White (Kendra's parents) faced challenges fostering and then adopting and raising older children. Dave tells the story of raising 3 sons with special needs as well as 2 biological children.
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Mother's Day
Kendra's mother joins Anne and Kendra in the studio as they give encouragement for Mother's Day and look at the story of Hagar.
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Three Little Snowflakes-part 2
Jasmine Sorrell continues her story. When God closes unexpected doors, Jasmine and her husband Matthew discover embryo adoption as a unique path to building their family while also saving human life.
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Three Little Snowflakes (A Story of Embryo Adoption)
When God closes unexpected doors, Jasmine and her husband Matthew discover embryo adoption as a unique path to building their family while also saving human life.
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Is Getting a Sperm Donor Morally Acceptable?
Many couples today are told that third-party sperm or egg donors are their only path to biological children. But is this option Biblical? What sort of psychological/emotional impact does it have on the children born in this way? Special guest Jennifer Friesen is the Director of Operations at Them Before Us and is the author of “My Daddy’s Name is Donor,” an article examining a study on young adults conceived by sperm donation. Find the full article here: https://thembeforeus.com/my-daddys-name-is-donor-study/
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The Shine Foundation
Julie West and Savannah Tucker tell their stories about how God led them to start a ministry to families of children with disabilities.
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Because He Lives
Anne and Kendra share their testimonies of coming to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior as well as talking infertility during the Easter season. Spring brings all the feels as we see every animal ready to have babies and we are still waiting, but because He lives we can face tomorrow.
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Mothering After Loss
Andrea Powell returns to the program with an update on continuing challenges to motherhood after child loss.
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When Faith Meets Fertility Treatments
President Trump's mention of IVF during the recent State of the Union address has led to a renewed interest in the subject. Anne and Kendra discuss the issues and ethics of invitro fertilization.
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Global Outreach
Anne welcomes her friend, John Darnell, into the studio to talk about the missionary sending agency Global Outreach.
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Kelly Hoke
When Kelly lost her own sweet baby, something inside her snapped. She’d always been prolife but now the desire to defend and protect the unborn was burning inside her. Some may say she was just a stay at home mom. But when she said “yes” to Jesus, she started on an incredible journey.
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Cradled In Grace-Kim Smith
Kim Smith tells her story of infertility which lasted 11 years and included miscarriages. That struggle led Kim and her husband to pursue adoption, and their adoption journey led Kim to start an adoption consulting agency, Cradled in Grace.
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Anne and Kendra React to Bioethical Fertility Concerns
Anne and Kendra react to some exciting, terrifying, wonderful, awful news stories about whats going on in the world of fertility medicine. Links to articles below: https://www.heritage.org/life/commentary/designer-embryos-and-kids-born-the-dna-throuple-parents-understanding-the-depraved https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/video/three-parent-ivf-leads-to-birth-of-8-healthy-babies-without-mitochondrial-disease/ https://www.liveaction.org/news/preemie-born-22-weeks-miracle?fbclid=IwY2xjawP5nKVleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETExeWl1Z0swWU1MckVRSHAxc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHko4_uqm5gOb_-_asZt5zstxHlxwLHzQKrWAmrQNadwHiNephyJx4TlhDyDP_aem_SOjsT0FW6_G8--Bcw47k3w https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1327754086057474&id=100064686851503&mibextid=wwXIfr&rdid=GgORjdyLwE4FBN8B# https://www.facebook.com/groups/252029351211252/posts/686774627736720/ https://www.liveaction.org/news/beautiful-family-photos-feature-baby-boy-who-had-prenatal-spina-bifida-surgery https://www.liveaction.org/news/embryos-ivf-killed-worn-jewelry
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Ashley Opliger
guest Ashley Opliger, author of the book, Cradled in Hope, returns to dicuss her chapter about about spiritual warfare after childloss.
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Kelly Owens
Kelly’s precious baby girl died in her sleep at only 6 months old. And yet….somehow through God’s grace and a whole lot of worship music, this precious family has found peace in the storm. Kelly offers so much encouragement for any mom who has faced child loss.
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You are My Miracle
Anne and Kendra talk with You are My Miracle author Alice Matagora. The book, written for children, helps parents explain to their kids their efforts and strong desire to have a baby.
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A Story to Be Told
Sabrina and Jase Wilbanks join Anne and Kendra to tell their story of a miracle birth after her water broke at just 17 weeks. Doctors strongly recommended abortion or induced labor. But the Wilbanks chose the 3rd option: go home and pray for a miracle.
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Nutrition and PCOS
Kristen McDaniel joins us to discuss nutrition and dietary dos and don'ts for someone struggling with infertility and PCOS. We hope you learn a lot and get encouraged for healthy habits for the new year!
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Hannah’s Heart Conference Through It All
Mercy Like Morning author Jane Johnson shares her story as she prepares to be the keynote speaker at our first ever Hannah's Heart Conference beginning January 30, 2026. Learn more and register for the conference at AFA.net/Events.
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Loss at the Holidays
Ideally, the holidays bring joy and togetherness, but for many people the holidays are a painful reminder of unmet expectation, family loss and other things. Anne and Kendra offer godly encouragement for the holidays.
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How Can I Not?
Kendra and Anne talk with Jenn Fowler, author of the book, "how Can I Not.
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Kendall Simoneau-Yates
Today on Hannah’s Heart, Kendall shares her story of loss and hope. In a single moment, her life changed—turning her from new wife to widow. She reflects on the deep love she shared with her first husband and how his memory still lives on each day. Now, through God’s grace, Kendall is walking in a new chapter with a husband who honors both her heart and the life she lost.
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Beverly Jacobson
Bev Johnson's 9th child, Verity, was diagnosed before birth with Edwards Syndrome, a condition many doctors consider incompatible with life. Even so, Beverly and her husband fell in love with Verity and let her live. They even started a ministry, Mama Bear Care, which provides support for families who receive a life-limiting diagnosis for their babies from diagnosis to delivery and beyond.
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The Miscarriage of Eden
Lauren Daniel’s second baby, Eden, died before birth. Although the loss was no fault of her own, Lauren experienced anger and shame. God brought her through her struggle and has used her pain to encourage other women.
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The Tukes' Story
Quinet and Ari Tukes found the answer to their prayers in Christian adoption assistance programs, and now their baby Hannah is a talking, praying toddler.
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Alex and Jamie’s Story Part 2
“You are not broken!” Alex told his wife and suddenly Jamie began to weep. Long ago, a doctor had harshly told her that she would never conceive due to her autoimmune disease; and his words had clung to her like chains. But the God who knit Jamie together in her own mother’s womb had something miraculous in store for her. Listen to the Lee family as they share their story of infertility, loss, surrender and trusting God in the face of impossible odds.
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Alex and Jamie's Story Part 1
“You are not broken!” Alex told his wife and suddenly Jamie began to weep. Long ago, a doctor had harshly told her that she would never conceive due to her autoimmune disease; and his words had clung to her like chains. But the God who knit Jamie together in her own mother’s womb had something miraculous in store for her. Listen to the Lee family as they share their story of infertility, loss, surrender and trusting God in the face of impossible odds.
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Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness
October is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness. Kendra and Anne share from their personal stories of loss and how they have clung to Christ along the way.
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Meeting Baby Benny Part 2
Will and Bethany Whitfield join us to share about their sweet Benjamin. At Bethany’s anatomy scan she found out information about her sweet baby that no parent ever imagines they will hear. Will and Bethany were faced with decisions they didn’t ever picture as being part of their story. Follow along to hear how Jesus answered prayers even in the midst of the worst days.
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Meeting Baby Benny
Will and Bethany Whitfield join us to share about their sweet Benjamin. At Bethany’s anatomy scan she found out information about her sweet baby that no parent ever imagines they will hear. Will and Bethany were faced with decisions they didn’t ever picture as being part of their story. Follow along to hear how Jesus answered prayers even in the midst of the worst days.
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When Heaviness feels like its closing in
Pastor Matt Powell comes on to talk about the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk. Pastor Matt shares the heaviness that we as fellow believers have felt over Kirk’s death, but also the celebration of death we have seen since September 10. We discuss how the evilness of it all feels like a weight more than we can carry. Pastor Matt shares some personal testimony of loss and the physical and spiritual effects this broken world has caused him and his family.
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Losing Miles with Beka Clayton-part 2
Beka Clayton lost her baby, Miles, when she was just 19 weeks pregnant. But her story on social medial has helped other grieving mothers, including co-host Anne Cockrell.
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Losing Miles with Beka Clayton-part 1
Beka Clayton lost her baby, Miles, when she was just 19 weeks pregnant. But her story on social medial has helped other grieving mothers, including co-host Anne Cockrell.
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A Lot to Surrender
Emily Lott comes on to tell her story of infertility and multiple losses. She shares intimate details of what her losses were to walk through and how she finally came to a point of full surrender to the Lord. She shares how when she “got out of the way” the Lord began His amazing work in her life. We learn such encouraging information about adoption fundraisers and look forward to having Emily back on with an update of how the Lord continues to work through her story.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Hannah’s Heart is a half hour program to encourage couples walking through infertility and miscarriage. It’s about clinging to Christ, the ultimate hope and finding peace and joy in the midst of the journey. Hosted by AFA’s very own Anne Cockrell and Kendra White.
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