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Haystacks & Hell
by Haystacks & Hell
Stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving faith behind, and building new, fulfilling lives.
Episodes
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S3:E3 - More Adventist Music Drama
Support the Show • This re-upload of Abby and Ami's original show SDAP dives into the complex and often contradictory relationship between music and the Seventh-day Adventist faith. Abby, Ami, Alex, and friends talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, destroying...
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S3:E2 - The Devil's Tunes: SDA Views on Music
Support the Show • Did you ever get scolded for the music you played in church? We're diving into traditional Seventh-day Adventist attitudes toward music and talking about my own personal experience with music while growing up in the church. We'll also cover historical Protestant views on…
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S3:E1 - The Next Four Years
Support the Show • Santiago discusses the current political climate, especially the continued rise of Christian Nationalism in the United States, while reflecting on his personal journey from right-wing authoritarian beliefs to greater empathy and understanding. Listeners are encouraged to stay...
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S2:E15 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 2
Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben...
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S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1
Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights...
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S2:E13 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 2
Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental...
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S2:E12 - Rosei Quartz: Pastor's Kid turned Content Creator - Pt. 1
Support the Show • Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her…
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S2:E11 - Future of the Show + Listener Stories
Support the Show • Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories. Resources / Topics Mentioned: Slate: Why Do We Give Our Pets Death With Dignity but Not Ourselves? S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife? More Listener Stories Podcast Resources Book...
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S2:E10 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 2
Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for two summers with Youth Rush, to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We discussed the sales tactics used by...
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S2:E9 - From Youth Rusher to Ex-Adventist - Pt. 1
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up...
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S2:E8 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 3
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — 3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly...
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S2:E7 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 2
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child...
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S2:E6 - Charli: Escaping her Adoptive SDA Parents - Pt. 1
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child...
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S2:E5 - Adventist "Halloween" or Nah?
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last…
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S2:E4 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 2
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and...
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S2:E3 - Meet Will: ex-SDA Husband, Dad, Lawyer - Pt. 1
Support the Dunk Family • Support the Show — Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew...
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S2:E2 - From SDA Student Missionary to Agnostic: Morgan Clae
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also…
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S2:E1 - Meet Erika: ex-SDA Teacher, Mom, Survivor of Abuse
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving...
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S1:E20 - The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? Season 1 Finale
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — For the final episode of Season 1, Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers...
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S1:E19 - Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States....
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S1:E18 - Cherie: ex-SDA Body Image Coach on Purity Culture, Food, & More
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges…
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S1:E17 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 2
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Full…
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S1:E16 - Matthew Vollmer: Writer, Professor, & Ted Wilson's Nephew - Pt. 1
Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Full Transcripts, resources and...
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S1:E15 - Haystacks & Hope: Mutual Aid and Other Announcements
Support the Dunk Family: hell.bio/dunkfamily Check out the new Resources Page — Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast. Full Transcripts, resources and more:...
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S1:E14 - Meet Kyle: Future Pastor turned Agnostic Atheist
Support the Show • Support on Patreon Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his...
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"Human Sexuality Task Force" S1 Bonus 2
Bonus episode discussing an upcoming "Human Sexuality Taskforce" announced by Ted Wilson, President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Why talk about this? Because I care about the current and former Adventists who will be affected by this. Apparently the GC's homophobia is not...
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S1:E13 - Meet Jeff, Humanitarian ex-Adventist
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago interviews Jeff, an ex-Adventist who used to work for ADRA and still does humanitarian work today. They discuss a bit of everything about growing up Adventist, including Jeff's experiences at an SDA boarding school and what it's been...
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S1:E12 - Did You Read Forbidden Books?
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books.…
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S1:E11 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 2
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects,...
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S1:E10 - Meet ex-SDA Writer Melissa Duge Spiers - Pt. 1
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, AKA Deconstruction Auntie. Melissa is an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left...
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S1:E9 - Interview: Meet the ex-SDA Survey Team (Eighth-day Freedom)
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago interviews the research team behind the ex-Adventist survey and research project called Eighth-day Freedom: Dr. Tom Arcaro, Dr. Duane McClearn, and Jeff, an ex-Adventist originally from Michigan. Buy Santiago a coffee • Support on...
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S1:E8 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 2
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago shares a bit more about his experiences after leaving the church and shares a template of the letter he wrote to his parents. Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to...
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S1:E7 - Dealing with our SDA Families - Pt. 1
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago reads the letter he wrote to his parents about leaving the church and faith behind. Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as…
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S1:E6 - Growing up Gen Z and Adventist: Interview with Miguel
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago interviews his Gen Z brother Miguel about growing up Gen Z and Seventh-day Adventist. We laugh about sex ed, bananas, and fleeing their home in the middle of the night. Links mentioned in this episode: Ray Comfort on the banana —…
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S1:E5 - Did You Ever Get “The Talk?”
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Oh look, another sex episode! Santiago shares his experiences and some resources. Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church and touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up during the AIDS crisis. They...
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S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About Sex?
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — We discuss John Harvey Kellogg, early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and our own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. Ami asks her friends: When did you learn what sex was? Links...
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Stories From Listeners Like You - S1 Bonus 1
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago reads stories shared by listeners of the podcast: A woman who left the conservative fringes of Adventism, a trans woman from Puerto Rico, and someone who was raised in the SDA Reform Church. You can read these stories and more at...
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S1:E3 - Do You Have a Favorite Veggie Meat?
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — We discuss Adventist culture, diet, and the Sabbath, looking at the good and bad aspects of these things. Abby and Ami are joined by Alex, and they ask their friends "What's your favorite veggie meat?" — Have a story to share? Write to us…
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S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife?
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago, Ami, and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. Abby and Ami ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven? Links mentioned in this episode: The Greek myth of Sisyphus Big...
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S1:E1 - Do You Believe in God?
Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Santiago introduces himself and the podcast. Abby and Ami discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, why they left the church, and ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real? Links & stats mentioned in...
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Podcast Trailer
Were you ever part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church or exposed to fundamentalist Christianity in general? If so, have we got a show for you (queue the Veggie Tales theme song)! Haystacks & Hell is an ex-Adventist podcast where we tell stories about growing up Seventh-day Adventist, leaving…
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