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Heretical Hippies

A couple of old friends talking about our journey out of evangelical Christianity & into the wild.

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    Ch. 3 Order & Chaos

    Join us for our discussion on chapter 3 of Britt Hartley's book, No Nonsense Spirituality, Order and Chaos. https://www.danharris.com/p/the-funniest-conversation-youll-ever

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    CH. 2 Secular Spirituality

    What is secular spirituality? Join us as we discuss chapter 2 of Britt Hartley's book, No Nonsense Spirituality.

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    No Nonsense Spirituality

    In 2026, we will be sharing our journey as we read through No Nonsense Sprituality, by Brittney L. Hartley, aka "Britt". This book is designed to be maximally helpful for wherever you are in your spiritual journey. "This book helps to break down the main components of tools that have operated under the umbrella of spirituality while denying the claim that religion holds a monopoly on these tools." Nick Jenkel, author of the Spiritual Atheist"Britt Hartley breezes through her own story in her first chapter and then buckles down to help the rest of us figure out what comes next.." Bart Campolo, Creator of the Humanize Me Podcasthttps://nononsensespirituality.com/@nononsensespiritualityJoin us as we discuss Chapter 1!

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    2025 Year End Review

    A quick recap, favorite episodes and what 2026 will look like!

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    Jake Porter Interview

    Anna's awesome old friend, Jake, shares his inspiring story Ankylosing Spondylitis, God and so much more. Join us for a great conversation!Book recommendationFools Crow: Wisdom and Powerhttps://a.co/d/gylijnV

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    Things that make you go hmmm....

    An honest conversation about things that make you scratch your head....that make you wonder....that make you go hmmmmm.

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    Mikee Bridges Interview

    Join us for a stimulating conversation with Anna's old friend, Mikee Bridges. Mikee was a huge influence in the Christian music scene and continues to pave ways for musicians to connect. @mikeebridges@tomconventionTomCon occurred in October 2025. https://youtu.be/RB3g6mXLEKk?si=IpdSSbEPio845cxQ

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    Accountability vs Policing Behavior

    Join us as we discuss the similarities and differences between healthy accountability and policing behaviors and our experiences with both.

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    Stephanie Wilson interview

    Join us for the Stephanie Wilson interview!Book recommendations:Loving What Ishttps://a.co/d/5KNJiyqMeditations To Heal Your Lifehttps://a.co/d/70HACdpJesus Undefeated: Condemning the false doctrine of Eternal Tormenthttps://a.co/d/3k9J19V

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    We're humans & we complicate things. Knock it off! with Bryan Sutherland

    A beautiful conversation with Bryan Sutherland. He shares his faith journey and finding a home in the Episcopal church. Walk in Love: Episcopal Beliefs and Practiceshttps://a.co/d/fLGVSmc

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    Noah Rasheta-"Secular Buddhism" interview

    Author & podcast host Noah Rasheta joins us for a thought provoking conversation on how buddhism has shaped Noah's deconstruction. Check out his podcast and book! Link below. :)Buddhism for Beginners (book)https://a.co/d/cDVu5ILSecular Buddhism (podcast)https://secularbuddhism.com/

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    Kevin Sweeney interview

    Kevin Sweeney has the imagination of a poet, the heart of a mystic, and an unrelenting commitment to be a guide for other people’s journey.Our conversation with Kevin inspired us in many ways. Join us as we get to know Kevin!https://www.kevinsweeneynow.comThe Cosmic Christ and the Concrete Jesushttps://a.co/d/1ba6FuFThe Wisdom Jesushttps://a.co/d/bSsRYoUThe Cross and the Lynching Treehttps://a.co/d/cYnFDeE

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    Adam Baker interview

    Adam Baker is someone we both have admired for a long time for his deep love for people. He is the Webster Site Pastor for The Gathering in Webster Groves, MO. Join us for this inspiring conversation. https://storage.snappages.site/6J4GBT/assets/files/Generation_Green_Light_Resources.pdf

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    Abby Shephard interview

    Join us in a discussion with a member of Kari Jo's family. Her sister-in-law, Abby, worked for the church in children's ministry. She shares the experience that led her to stepping away from ministry and beginning her own deconstruction.

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    Positives of our religious experience

    We talked about the "negatives" of our religious experience in a previous episode. Now we discuss the "positives".

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    Negatives of our religious experience

    Yes, we talk about the "positives" in the episode being released in a couple of weeks, or already released, depending on when you listen to this. BUT! This episode is the "negatives" or "con" list of the religious experience we had.

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    Mommy Issues

    Mom's on the verge of being empty nesters talk parenting in the new season.

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    Reflections on seeing Eckhart Tolle

    Eckhart Tolle is a German born spiritual teacher that draws his teachings from traditions such as Zen Buddhism, Christianity, Sufism, and Hinduism, although he remains unaffiliated with any religion.Anna shares her reflections on reading his books and seeing him live March 23, 2025 in Denver, CO.

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    Useful Scriptures

    Our trust in Bible scriptures has evolved. In this episode, we discuss some verses that have made an impression on us and continue to be useful.

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    Jamie Ewen Interview

    Join us for a great conversation with Jamie Ewen! www.psychologytoday.com

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    Thank You/F*** You - Lessons from Ted Lasso (explicit language)

    (Warning - a lot of explicit language) The Apple TV series, Ted Lasso, made an impact on us. One scene in particular was worth dedicating an episode to. Ted has a conversation with his mom that, we believe, was extremely relatable and moving. Join us as we discuss the gratefulness and disgust felt at the hands of religion and parenting. psychologytoday.com

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    Rickey interview: Anna's husband

    You've heard Anna's story. Let's hear from her husband of 29 years, Rickey.

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    Tattoo Tour

    Everybody likes to ask what your tattoos mean. Kari Jo and Anna talk about their tattoos, meaning behind them and how their perspectives on them have changed as beliefs have changed.

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    Flood Myths Part 2

    Creation myth research was so intriguing that we continued our studies on floods. The subject of mythology is truly fascinating. Join us as we process what we learned. Highly recommend the podcast Crecganford. https://www.youtube.com/@Crecganford Other links mentioned: arkenencounter.com biologos.org apologeticspress.com

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    Creation Myths

    What is a myth? What is a motif? What are examples of creation myths throughout history? Join us as we discuss what we learned! This video was originally on TikTok. Thought provoking ideas. What if WATER is GOD? https://youtu.be/EtdW4Po3e94?si=USiTsnlICE9G0spT "Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall Kimmerer https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/ Delgado Podcast https://www.mikedelgado.org/podcast/creation-stories/ Academic videos about ancient mythology and religious history. https://www.youtube.com/@Crecganford

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    2025 Trailer!

    Join us! Or don't! Either way we are gonna hit record. :)

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    Ep. 29: 2024 Year in review!

    Now that we have completed our first year of podcasting, what have we learned!

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    Ep: 28 Kari Jo's husband, Steven!

    Kari Jo's husband, Steven, joins us to share his spiritual journey.

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    Ep. 27 Holidays, Then vs Now

    How have celebrating the holidays changed over the years?

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    Ep.26 Deva Yoder : Anna's Zen Master

    Deva Yoder is Anna's beautiful friend of 28 years and a talented musician. This is her story. https://devayoder.com/ https://eckharttolle.com/ Books: A New Earth The Power of Now

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    Ep. 25: Thought Terminating Phrases

    Things people say to stop you from thinking and how to respond!

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    Ep. 24 Happy Fucking Birthday

    A birthday card gone wrong.

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    Ep. 23 Leslie Nease: "Survivor" China contestant shares all!

    Join us as we get to know Leslie Nease. She is a Life & Faith Transitions Coach, Survivor China Castaway & Host of Honoring the Journey Podcast. Cher out at: https://www.leslieneasecoaching.com/ https://a.co/d/0GoDO55 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/honoring-the-journey/id1724781096

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    Ep.22 Steps to Freedom

    Kari Jo and Anna discuss the steps they took after leaving former beliefs that brought healing and increased sense of freedom.

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    Ep. 21 Prayer: Then vs Now

    Prayer inevitably changes with beliefs & understanding. In this episode we discuss how prayer has changed for us throughout our spiritual evolution.

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    Ep. 20 Jason Barnaby

    Jason is a dynamic author & sought after speaker who specializes in igniting his audience to take action. Join us as we enjoy talking with him about his spiritual journey. Fire Starter https://firestarterstribe.com Join the Tribe https://firestarterstribe.com/join-the-tribe The Liturgists talk about Buddhism https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/buddhist-part-1/id903433534?i=1000429401924 Diamond Dogs Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-diamond-dogs-podcast/id1609677726

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    Ep. 19 BITE Model: Emotional Control

    In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss the emotional control tactics used by cults, focusing on the manipulation and narrowing of feelings, the promotion of guilt and unworthiness, and the use of fear as a control mechanism. They share personal experiences and reflect on the impact of these tactics on their lives. https://freedomofmind.com

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    Ep. 18 BITE Model: Thought

    Kari Jo and Anna talk about the the "Thought" part of the BITE Model & the psychological techniques used by groups to shape beliefs and attitudes, suppressing critical thinking and promoting conformity. https://freedomofmind.com/

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    Ep. 17 BITE Model : Information

    In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss the topic of information control within cults and religious movements. They explore various aspects of information control, including deception, deliberate withholding of information, and distortion of facts that they have experienced and witnessed. They share their journey of learning to think independently. https://freedomofmind.com

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    Ep. 16 BITE Model : Behavior

    The conversation explores the BITE model and the concept of cult mentality. The hosts discuss their personal experiences and the denial of cult membership within religious communities.  https://freedomofmind.com

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    Ep. 15 Afterlife Part 2

    In this conversation, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their fascination with the afterlife, the power of imagination, the podcasts and books that have influenced them and how speculating about what happens after death can be a form of therapy. Join us for another fun conversation! Interview with Diana Pasulka Walsh: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/149-diana-walsh-pasulka-aliens-technology-religion/id1434243584?i=1000503651196Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World https://a.co/d/00ZY8e7O The What If Project: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episosde-289-perdita-finn-and-the-guidance-our/id1397047558?i=1000650298843 Disclaimer: Baird T. Spalding (Life & Teaching of the Masters of the Far East) has since been discredited.

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    Ep. 14 Afterlife Part 1

    Kari Jo and Anna discuss former beliefs about the afterlife and enjoy wildly speculating other afterlife possibilities. Join us for this fun conversation! A podcast mentioned in this episode: The What If Project: Perdita Finn and the Guidance our ancestors long to give us https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episosde-289-perdita-finn-and-the-guidance-our/id1397047558?i=1000650298843

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    Ep. 13 Keith Giles: Who is Jesus?

    Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989. He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb." Keith is the co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which has featured interviews with Bart Ehrman, John Fugelsang, Richard Rohr, Brad Jersak, Greg Boyd, and many others. Keith also teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books. You can follow him online and find out more about his books at www.KeithGiles.com Use discount code: HERETICALHIPPIES for $50 off Square One course at Quoiracademy.com

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    Ep. 12 Top 5 Influences

    Anna and Kari Jo discuss their top influences in their deconstruction journey. They share books, podcasts and more. Rachel Held Evans, "Inspired" https://a.co/d/dhFNsPG Thomas Jay Oord, "God Can't" https://a.co/d/aeDhdlk Naked Pastor, David Hayword https://www.instagram.com/nakedpastor?igsh=YjNwM3dvbWU3ZXhp The Bible for Normal People (podcast) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bible-for-normal-people/id1215420422 The What If Project (podcast) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-if-project/id1397047558 Bart Ehrman- New Testament Scholar https://www.bartehrman.com/ Bart Ehrman debates Daniel Wallace-Can we trust the text of the New Testament? https://youtu.be/WRHjZCKRIu4?si=WBukcmKLH7dGEQVs Joseph Campbell, "The Power of Myth" https://youtu.be/pE8ciMkayVM?si=rOnGG9YOZCChJxvv

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    Ep. 11 Dismantling Doctrine with Clint Heacock (Part 2)

    This is a collaborative episode with Dismantling Doctrine (formerly MindShift). Listen to the first part here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindshift-podcast/id1199559501 Dr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years and the host of the formerly MindShift podcast, now Dismantling Doctrine. In this conversation, Dr. Clint Haycock discusses his journey from being raised in a fundamentalist Christian church to his deconstruction and exploration of different beliefs. Join us on a Zoom Meeting on May 26 at 2pm Central Time. Join our Cloud HD Video Meeting

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    Ep. 10 Community Then vs. Now

    SummaryIn this conversation, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their experiences with community as Christians and on the mission field. They reflect on the support and limitations they encountered in their respective communities. They also share what they miss about their previous communities and the challenges of maintaining relationships from their past. They explore the idea of finding new community and the importance of connecting with people in different settings. Finally, they discuss the type of person they want to be in their evolving understanding of community. The conversation explores the importance of creating a diverse community and the benefits it brings. It emphasizes the desire to attract good people who challenge and inspire, and the importance of fostering an environment where people can be themselves and engage in meaningful conversations. The hosts express their hopes and dreams for connection through community and encourage listeners to create and develop their own communities.

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    Ep. 9: What Makes Us Hippies!

    Summary In this episode, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their definitions of a hippie and share personal stories that align with the hippie lifestyle. They talk about their artistic pursuits, living in community, attending music festivals, practicing meditation and qigong, and their involvement in home births and homeschooling. They also discuss their use of tattoos, crystals, tarot cards, and cannabis. Both Anna and Kari Jo express their belief in the power of love to change the world and their connection with nature and spirituality. Overall, they embrace their hippie identities and the freedom to express themselves authentically. In this conversation, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their experiences and perspectives on psychedelics. They explore the idea of using psychedelics as a form of exploration and rebellion against societal norms. They also discuss the potential for psychedelics to provide profound spiritual experiences and a deep connection with a higher power. The conversation ends with a reflection on the deep connection and soul partnership between Anna and Kari Jo.

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    Ep. 8: What makes us "Heretics"

    Summary In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss their heretical beliefs and nonconformist perspectives. They explore topics such as reading forbidden books, embracing science and evolution, questioning the historical accuracy of the Bible, LGBTQIA+ affirmation, rejecting the concept of hell, reinterpreting Jesus' return, prayer and petitionary prayer, and afterlife beliefs. They emphasize the importance of holding new beliefs lightly, embracing curiosity and creativity, and finding beauty in the mystery of life. Book recommendations: "Love Wins: A book about Heaven, Hell and the fate of every person who ever lived" by Rob Bell https://a.co/d/iqwFJId "Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the false doctrine of eternal torment" by Keith Giles https://a.co/d/0nYQLwi

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    Ep. 7: How To Love Others Through Deconstruction

    In this episode, Anna and Kari Jo discuss how to love and support someone going through deconstruction. They emphasize the importance of not freaking out and treating the person as if they've turned into aliens. They also highlight the need to listen with empathy, ask genuine questions to understand, and avoid spewing Bible verses or beliefs. They encourage finding common interests and activities to bond over, and being willing to give the person time and space to process. They stress the importance of practicing radical acceptance and allowing the relationship to go beyond shared beliefs.

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    Ep. 6 How to Love Yourself through Deconstruction

    In this episode of Heretical Hippies, Anna and Kari Jo discuss how to love during deconstruction. They provide tips on how to love oneself and others who are going through the process of questioning and reevaluating their faith. The chapters cover various aspects of self-love, including not freaking out, embracing change, being patient, exposing oneself to other points of view, practicing radical acceptance, finding supportive people, taking breaks when needed, and seeking therapy for religious trauma. The conversation emphasizes the importance of compassion, understanding, and support during the deconstruction journey.

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A couple of old friends talking about our journey out of evangelical Christianity & into the wild.

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