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Heretical Hippies
by Anna & Kari Jo
A couple of old friends talking about our journey out of evangelical Christianity & into the wild.
Episodes
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Ch. 4 Rituals & Calendars
Join us as we discuss Ch.4-Rituals & Calendars of Britt Hartley's book, No Nonsense Spirituality.
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Ch. 3 Order & Chaos
Join us for our discussion on chapter 3 of Britt Hartley's book, No Nonsense Spirituality, Order and Chaos. https://www.danharris.com/p/the-funniest-conversation-youll-ever
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CH. 2 Secular Spirituality
What is secular spirituality? Join us as we discuss chapter 2 of Britt Hartley's book, No Nonsense Spirituality.
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No Nonsense Spirituality
In 2026, we will be sharing our journey as we read through No Nonsense Sprituality, by Brittney L. Hartley, aka "Britt". This book is designed to be maximally helpful for wherever you are in your spiritual journey. "This book helps to break down the main components of tools that have operated…
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2025 Year End Review
A quick recap, favorite episodes and what 2026 will look like!
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Jake Porter Interview
Anna's awesome old friend, Jake, shares his inspiring story Ankylosing Spondylitis, God and so much more. Join us for a great conversation! Book recommendation Fools Crow: Wisdom and Power https://a.co/d/gylijnV
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Things that make you go hmmm....
An honest conversation about things that make you scratch your head....that make you wonder....that make you go hmmmmm.
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Mikee Bridges Interview
Join us for a stimulating conversation with Anna's old friend, Mikee Bridges. Mikee was a huge influence in the Christian music scene and continues to pave ways for musicians to connect. @mikeebridges @tomconvention TomCon occurred in October 2025. https://youtu.be/RB3g6mXLEKk?si=IpdSSbEPio845cxQ
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Accountability vs Policing Behavior
Join us as we discuss the similarities and differences between healthy accountability and policing behaviors and our experiences with both.
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Stephanie Wilson interview
Join us for the Stephanie Wilson interview! Book recommendations: Loving What Is https://a.co/d/5KNJiyq Meditations To Heal Your Life https://a.co/d/70HACdp Jesus Undefeated: Condemning the false doctrine of Eternal Torment https://a.co/d/3k9J19V
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We're humans & we complicate things. Knock it off! with Bryan Sutherland
A beautiful conversation with Bryan Sutherland. He shares his faith journey and finding a home in the Episcopal church. Walk in Love: Episcopal Beliefs and Practices https://a.co/d/fLGVSmc
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Noah Rasheta-"Secular Buddhism" interview
Author & podcast host Noah Rasheta joins us for a thought provoking conversation on how buddhism has shaped Noah's deconstruction. Check out his podcast and book! Link below. :) Buddhism for Beginners (book) https://a.co/d/cDVu5IL Secular Buddhism (podcast) https://secularbuddhism.com/
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Kevin Sweeney interview
Kevin Sweeney has the imagination of a poet, the heart of a mystic, and an unrelenting commitment to be a guide for other people’s journey. Our conversation with Kevin inspired us in many ways. Join us as we get to know Kevin! https://www.kevinsweeneynow.com The Cosmic Christ and the Concrete…
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Adam Baker interview
Adam Baker is someone we both have admired for a long time for his deep love for people. He is the Webster Site Pastor for The Gathering in Webster Groves, MO. Join us for this inspiring conversation. https://storage.snappages.site/6J4GBT/assets/files/Generation_Green_Light_Resources.pdf
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Abby Shephard interview
Join us in a discussion with a member of Kari Jo's family. Her sister-in-law, Abby, worked for the church in children's ministry. She shares the experience that led her to stepping away from ministry and beginning her own deconstruction.
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Positives of our religious experience
We talked about the "negatives" of our religious experience in a previous episode. Now we discuss the "positives".
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Negatives of our religious experience
Yes, we talk about the "positives" in the episode being released in a couple of weeks, or already released, depending on when you listen to this. BUT! This episode is the "negatives" or "con" list of the religious experience we had.
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Mommy Issues
Mom's on the verge of being empty nesters talk parenting in the new season.
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Reflections on seeing Eckhart Tolle
Eckhart Tolle is a German born spiritual teacher that draws his teachings from traditions such as Zen Buddhism, Christianity, Sufism, and Hinduism, although he remains unaffiliated with any religion. Anna shares her reflections on reading his books and seeing him live March 23, 2025 in Denver, CO.
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Useful Scriptures
Our trust in Bible scriptures has evolved. In this episode, we discuss some verses that have made an impression on us and continue to be useful.
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Jamie Ewen Interview
Join us for a great conversation with Jamie Ewen! www.psychologytoday.com
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Thank You/F*** You - Lessons from Ted Lasso (explicit language)
(Warning - a lot of explicit language) The Apple TV series, Ted Lasso, made an impact on us. One scene in particular was worth dedicating an episode to. Ted has a conversation with his mom that, we believe, was extremely relatable and moving. Join us as we discuss the gratefulness and disgust…
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Rickey interview: Anna's husband
You've heard Anna's story. Let's hear from her husband of 29 years, Rickey.
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Tattoo Tour
Everybody likes to ask what your tattoos mean. Kari Jo and Anna talk about their tattoos, meaning behind them and how their perspectives on them have changed as beliefs have changed.
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Flood Myths Part 2
Creation myth research was so intriguing that we continued our studies on floods. The subject of mythology is truly fascinating. Join us as we process what we learned. Highly recommend the podcast Crecganford. https://www.youtube.com/@Crecganford Other links mentioned: arkenencounter.com...
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Creation Myths
What is a myth? What is a motif? What are examples of creation myths throughout history? Join us as we discuss what we learned! This video was originally on TikTok. Thought provoking ideas. What if WATER is GOD? https://youtu.be/EtdW4Po3e94?si=USiTsnlICE9G0spT "Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall...
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2025 Trailer!
Join us! Or don't! Either way we are gonna hit record. :)
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Ep. 29: 2024 Year in review!
Now that we have completed our first year of podcasting, what have we learned!
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Ep: 28 Kari Jo's husband, Steven!
Kari Jo's husband, Steven, joins us to share his spiritual journey.
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Ep. 27 Holidays, Then vs Now
How have celebrating the holidays changed over the years?
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Ep.26 Deva Yoder : Anna's Zen Master
Deva Yoder is Anna's beautiful friend of 28 years and a talented musician. This is her story. https://devayoder.com/ https://eckharttolle.com/ Books: A New Earth The Power of Now
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Ep. 25: Thought Terminating Phrases
Things people say to stop you from thinking and how to respond!
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Ep. 24 Happy Fucking Birthday
A birthday card gone wrong.
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Ep. 23 Leslie Nease: "Survivor" China contestant shares all!
Join us as we get to know Leslie Nease. She is a Life & Faith Transitions Coach, Survivor China Castaway & Host of Honoring the Journey Podcast. Cher out at: https://www.leslieneasecoaching.com/ https://a.co/d/0GoDO55 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/honoring-the-journey/id1724781096
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Ep.22 Steps to Freedom
Kari Jo and Anna discuss the steps they took after leaving former beliefs that brought healing and increased sense of freedom.
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Ep. 21 Prayer: Then vs Now
Prayer inevitably changes with beliefs & understanding. In this episode we discuss how prayer has changed for us throughout our spiritual evolution.
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Ep. 20 Jason Barnaby
Jason is a dynamic author & sought after speaker who specializes in igniting his audience to take action. Join us as we enjoy talking with him about his spiritual journey. Fire Starter https://firestarterstribe.com Join the Tribe https://firestarterstribe.com/join-the-tribe The Liturgists talk...
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Ep. 19 BITE Model: Emotional Control
In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss the emotional control tactics used by cults, focusing on the manipulation and narrowing of feelings, the promotion of guilt and unworthiness, and the use of fear as a control mechanism. They share personal experiences and reflect on the impact of…
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Ep. 18 BITE Model: Thought
Kari Jo and Anna talk about the the "Thought" part of the BITE Model & the psychological techniques used by groups to shape beliefs and attitudes, suppressing critical thinking and promoting conformity. https://freedomofmind.com/
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Ep. 17 BITE Model : Information
In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss the topic of information control within cults and religious movements. They explore various aspects of information control, including deception, deliberate withholding of information, and distortion of facts that they have experienced and witnessed....
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Ep. 16 BITE Model : Behavior
The conversation explores the BITE model and the concept of cult mentality. The hosts discuss their personal experiences and the denial of cult membership within religious communities. https://freedomofmind.com
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Ep. 15 Afterlife Part 2
In this conversation, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their fascination with the afterlife, the power of imagination, the podcasts and books that have influenced them and how speculating about what happens after death can be a form of therapy. Join us for another fun conversation! Interview with Diana...
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Ep. 14 Afterlife Part 1
Kari Jo and Anna discuss former beliefs about the afterlife and enjoy wildly speculating other afterlife possibilities. Join us for this fun conversation! A podcast mentioned in this episode: The What If Project: Perdita Finn and the Guidance our ancestors long to give us...
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Ep. 13 Keith Giles: Who is Jesus?
Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989. He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus...
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Ep. 12 Top 5 Influences
Anna and Kari Jo discuss their top influences in their deconstruction journey. They share books, podcasts and more. Rachel Held Evans, "Inspired" https://a.co/d/dhFNsPG Thomas Jay Oord, "God Can't" https://a.co/d/aeDhdlk Naked Pastor, David Hayword...
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Ep. 11 Dismantling Doctrine with Clint Heacock (Part 2)
This is a collaborative episode with Dismantling Doctrine (formerly MindShift). Listen to the first part here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mindshift-podcast/id1199559501 Dr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years and the host of the formerly...
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Ep. 10 Community Then vs. Now
SummaryIn this conversation, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their experiences with community as Christians and on the mission field. They reflect on the support and limitations they encountered in their respective communities. They also share what they miss about their previous communities and the...
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Ep. 9: What Makes Us Hippies!
Summary In this episode, Anna and Kari Jo discuss their definitions of a hippie and share personal stories that align with the hippie lifestyle. They talk about their artistic pursuits, living in community, attending music festivals, practicing meditation and qigong, and their involvement in home...
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Ep. 8: What makes us "Heretics"
Summary In this conversation, Kari Jo and Anna discuss their heretical beliefs and nonconformist perspectives. They explore topics such as reading forbidden books, embracing science and evolution, questioning the historical accuracy of the Bible, LGBTQIA+ affirmation, rejecting the concept of…
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Ep. 7: How To Love Others Through Deconstruction
In this episode, Anna and Kari Jo discuss how to love and support someone going through deconstruction. They emphasize the importance of not freaking out and treating the person as if they've turned into aliens. They also highlight the need to listen with empathy, ask genuine questions to...
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A couple of old friends talking about our journey out of evangelical Christianity & into the wild.
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