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Hurdle with Emily Abbate
by iHeartPodcasts
Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live happier, healthier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.
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My 2026 Sydney Marathon Recap: From Sickness To Finish Line
Sixteen marathons in, and Emily Abbate is still learning what it truly means to hurdle life's surprises. Coming to you live from Melbourne, Emily breaks down the complete journey of running the Sydney Marathon—from the 16-week training cycle and a brutal bout of food poisoning 48 hours before the gun, to conquering the hilliest World Major course and taking on the mindset of "steady as it." IN THIS EPISODE The Sydney Opportunity: Securing the bib courtesy of ASICS, planning the 16-week build, and training via the Runna app with a peak weekly mileage of 38 miles balanced by three days of strength training. The 24-Hour Travel Haul: Long-haul logistics from JFK to Sydney, navigating sleep adjustments, exploring the Delta One lounge, and what was packed inside Emily’s Away and Dagne Dover bags. The Food Poisoning Hurdle: Getting violently sick just two days before race day, turning to Ritz crackers, white rice, and Pocari Sweat, and the gut-check conversation about whether to line up at all. Race Strategy & Pacing: Managing Sydney's massive 313-meter elevation gain, locking into consistent 7:40–7:55 splits through mile 22, pushing past quad burn, and finishing strong in 3:35:30. Post-Race Recovery & Next Steps: Celebrating with martinis and french fries, a reset trip to Fiji, managing mild plantar flare-ups, and looking ahead to the After Dark Tour stops in LA and Mumbai. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I show up and I do hard things, and that is a fact... I am someone who doesn't just do hard things, but she does them well." "Knowing the difference between toxic positivity and being open to positivity, being open to the best-case scenario... When you're in a place where you're open to possibility, you allow possibility to find you." "You didn't come this far to only come this far." "Steady is it." "The journey is the destination. It doesn't matter how fast you run a marathon, the fact that you're showing up to do it at all is such an accomplishment." GEAR AND FAVORITES MENTIONED Shoes: ASICS Superblast, ASICS Megablast Apparel: Bandit Stamina Race Crop (Printed Cacao), Lululemon Power Stride socks Tech: Bose Ultra Open Earbuds, Garmin Forerunner 570, Oakley Sutro Lite sunglasses Recovery & Fuel: Runna app, Future app, Pocari Sweat, LMNT, Ozlo Sleepbuds SOCIAL@hurdlepodcast@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Why Choosing Kindness Always Wins
Fresh off a long-haul flight from Sydney to Los Angeles, Emily reflects on how a chaotic travel day—complete with overweight carry-ons, sprinting through terminals, and a nail-biting luggage scare—served as an unexpected reminder to lead with kindness. When travel (or life) gets stressful and out of your control, leaning into empathy, taking a deep breath, and remembering that "energy attracts like energy" changes everything. Later in the episode, Emily answers a listener question from Aperna about how to find community and make meaningful, ambitious friends in your 30s while working from home. Prompt of the Week: Where are you letting overwhelm get in the way? Where can you let go, choose kindness, and consciously flex your empathy muscle today? SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hurdling into Your Power: Dawn Harper-Nelson on Olympic Gold, Motherhood & Building an Emmy-Winning Second Act
This week, two-time Olympic medalist, four-time Diamond League champion, and Emmy Award–winning analyst Dawn Harper-Nelson joins the show. From standing atop the podium in Beijing and London to navigating devastating falls, major career transitions, and the vulnerable leap into motherhood, Dawn’s journey is a masterclass in true resilience. In this conversation, Dawn breaks down what it really takes to build your "second act," how she pivoted from world-class competitor to commanding the mic for NBC and Athlos, and the daily mindset shifts required to navigate self-doubt. We unpack the power of owning your "no" without guilt, protecting your energy, and building relationships anchored in trust and good intentions. Whether you’re stepping into a new career chapter or learning how to give yourself permission to pursue what fulfills you, Dawn’s perspective delivers the exact dose of motivation you need today. IN THIS EPISODE Finding the Second Act: How Dawn navigated the identity shift from elite hurdler to broadcast analyst and event MC with Athlos. Reframing Failure: The lessons learned from falling at the Beijing World Championships and how Bobby Kersee’s high-stakes training prepared her to handle heartbreak. Stepping Away & Returning: The decision to step away from the sport to start a family, learning to accept an evolving body, and coming back to competition on her own terms. Intentional Relationships & Communication: How radical trust, assuming good intentions, and clear communication carried her marriage through six years of living apart while competing. Energy Management & Owning Your “No”: Why setting boundaries and taking guilt-free pauses isn't an inconvenience to others, but a necessary practice to avoid emotional burnout. Redefining Female Competition: Embracing the fierce, "killer" edge required to win at the highest level while staying grounded, kind, and authentic off the track. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "When the world is burning and crashing around you, will you still say fight for your dream? Will you still say, ‘It’s possible’? Will you still believe you’re a good person? Can you still see the brighter side of tomorrow?" "You don't put in that type of work to have it not come true... but one, you will realize, 'Oh, I'm stronger than I ever thought I was.'" "If you take your losses this hard, you will never make it in this sport." "I am a woman forever. That will never change. But I'm an athlete when I step out there, and I'm ruthless. I'm a killer." "Chase your dream, because you can’t come home with that void. I can’t fulfill that for you." "Permission from others to not care gives you permission to have your own permission." SOCIAL@dharp100mh@hurdlepodcast@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Intentional Rest Isn't Selfish
Live from the dreamy landscape that is Fiji, Emily reflects on the art of intentional recovery fresh off 26.2 miles in Sydney. It is easy to step up as an "energy dealer" for everyone else, but you cannot pour from an empty cup. This week is all about prioritizing your own rest, recalibrating after major milestones, and taking real ownership of your self-care. Later in the episode, Emily answers a listener question from Ella, a volleyball player struggling with comparison and the pressure to prove her worth to others. Emily dives into how to flip the mental script from external validation to internal joy, plus practical tools like using physical anchors on the court to reset between points. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Discipline of a World Champion: Twanisha 'TeeTee' Terry On Navigating Forced Rest, Star Athletics & Finding Clarity In The Comeback
Olympic and World Champion sprinter Twanisha "TeeTee" Terry joins the show to talk about navigating the mental and physical hurdles of forced rest. Sidelined by a lower back injury during what was supposed to be a dominant year, TeeTee opens up about shifting from “Phenomenal 2026” to “Patient 2026,” working through the frustration of moving recovery timelines, and finding clarity alongside her Star Athletics training group. She also discusses the mental shift between running the 4x100m relay versus the open 100m, how she cultivates passions outside of track—from crocheting and Lego building to authoring children’s books and running her nonprofit—and why staying true to yourself is the ultimate measure of success. IN THIS EPISODE Navigating Forced Rest & Injury: TeeTee breaks down the lower back injury that halted her season, managing timeline pushbacks, and the mental shift required to embrace “Patient 2026.” The Power of Communication & Clear Milestones: How transparent conversations with coaches Dennis Mitchell and Sharif Lewis, alongside PT Brian, helped align everyone on realistic recovery goals. The Need for a True Reset: Why asking for a complete week off to visit family and her college coach helped reset her mental drive. Open 100m vs. 4x100m Relay Mindset: Breaking out of robotic “technical mode” in individual blocks to channel the unmatched confidence she brings to the second leg of the relay. Track & Field’s Accessibility Hurdle: Why the gap between the everyday running boom and track fandom comes down to broadcasting paywalls, fragmented meet schedules, and media access. Life Beyond the Oval: How writing children’s books, crocheting, building Legos, and running Starting Blocks for Dreams provide balance and identity beyond athletics. Academic Discipline: Earning a bachelor’s degree from USC in three years, completing a master’s in one, and balancing 20-unit semesters during heavy training blocks. Learning Healthy Selfishness: Why the natural “team mom” and eldest of seven had to learn to protect her own cup before pouring into others. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I really was on go all those years, so I’m definitely looking at it as a moment to be able to step back and just rest. Even though it was a forced rest, I’m okay with it." "You have to see yourself working for something. I know you’re not competing, but aim as if you’re working to compete... because that will help your healing." "Comparison is the thief of joy. Make sure you’re focusing on yourself and trusting your own journey." "I never know who’s watching. You want to make sure you’re you, through and through, and you just stay true to who you are." SOCIAL@teeteeterry_@hurdlepodcast@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: G'day, Sydney
Live from Sydney, Australia, Emily checks in ahead of running her 16th marathon. She reflects on navigating the 24-hour travel journey, dealing with an accidental five-hour jet-lag nap, and why experience doesn't eliminate race-week nerves—it just gives you the tools to respond instead of react when plans go sideways. Then, she dives into a listener question about how to find and vet a credible run coach, breaking down key certifications to look for and why finding someone who understands your "why" matters just as much as credentials. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Mindset of an American Record Holder: Sinclaire Johnson On Building Self-Belief, Mastering The Mile & Trusting Your Gut
American record holder in the mile and Hoka professional athlete Sinclaire Johnson joins the show to discuss navigating the intense highs, setbacks, and transitions of elite middle-distance running. Sinclaire gets real about rebounding from a misdiagnosed sacral stress reaction, the emotional aftermath of placing fourth at the 2024 Olympic Trials with a personal best, and taking a leap of faith to sign with HOKA. She also breaks down how working with a sports psychologist redefined her inner dialogue from chasing perfection to pursuing excellence, her lap-by-lap tactical mindset during the mile, and her life away from competition—including first-dance choreography and wedding planning with her fiancé and coach, Craig. IN THIS EPISODE Navigating Injury & Recovery: Managing the frustration of a misdiagnosed sacral stress reaction and rebuilding base fitness during an off-year. The 2024 Trials Perspective: Processing the heartbreak of missing the team by one spot while still celebrating a two-second PR. Coaching & Life Dynamics: What it looks like to be coached by her fiancé, Craig, and how their partnership reignited her joy for training. The Move to Hoka: Stepping into a major sponsorship shift, collaborating directly on shoe prototypes in Portland, and feeling valued as an athlete. Excellence Over Perfection: Shifting self-talk, overcoming imposter syndrome on global start lines, and leaning into unfiltered vulnerability on YouTube. The Anatomy of a Fast Mile: A detailed look inside her race strategy, from staying relaxed through 800m to the physical blur of the final 200m. Life Off the Oval: Wedding preparations, practicing dance lifts, and staying true to her everyday self. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "We’re not striving for perfection, because no one’s perfect. Instead, we’re striving for excellence. How can I be excellent today? How can I be excellent tomorrow?" "There’s nothing that makes you feel more alive than feeling like you’re going to die on the track." "Your gut, your intuition, will never lead you astray. If you trust yourself and listen to that inner voice, you’re on the right path." "I am an ultracompetitive person on the line, but at the end of the day, we put the guard down and celebrate each other. That camaraderie is what makes middle-distance running so special." SOCIAL@sinclairejohnson@hurdlepodcast@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Motivation Follows Action (Not the Other Way Around)
We’re back! In this 5-Minute Friday, Emily gets real about navigating the messy, anxious, and exciting headspace that comes right before leaving for a month-long trip to Australia and running the Sydney Marathon. Between late-night concerts, marathon taper phantom pains, and a packed travel schedule, one big question keeps coming up: How do you keep showing up consistently? Emily breaks down the two mindset shifts that keep her moving—even when motivation is nowhere to be found. Plus, she answers a listener question about how to achieve the ultimate slicked-back low bun without damaging your hair. IN THIS EPISODE Jess Sims on Hurdle TIGI Bed Head Hair Stick (Wax Stick) SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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At What Cost: Jess Sims on Setting Boundaries, Injury Lessons & Embracing Imperfection
Peloton favorite, ESPN host, and sideline reporter Jess Sims sits down for an intimate, vulnerable conversation about what it truly means to slow down, listen to your gut, and navigate life’s biggest transitions. Jess opens up about expanding her broadcast career onto national stages like First Take and College GameDay, how she actively quiets her inner "Gremlin," and why she now filters every new opportunity through the question: “At what cost?” She also shares how she navigated the profound grief of losing her father, what a multi-year injury journey taught her about self-worth and starting over, and the power of embracing neutral self-talk over toxic positivity. IN THIS EPISODE Slowing Down & Setting Boundaries: Why Jess is moving away from the "it'll slow down after this project" mentality and how she creates restorative space at her upstate home. Expanding Her Role at ESPN: Entering her fifth year, making the leap into guest-hosting First Take, and the distinct mindset shift required for live national television debates. Taming the "Inner Gremlin": Recognizing negative self-talk, separating automatic emotional reactions from intentional responses, and leading with gut instinct. Aligning Decisions with Your Mission: Rooting choices in core values (health, community, purpose) and learning how Jess's background in education and team sports shaped her lifelong mission to uplift others. Navigating Difficult Conversations: Why clarity gives you what you need (even if it’s not what you want) and the courage required to live outside the gray area. Grief, Loss, and Honor: Experiencing the loss of her father, reframing the non-linear nature of grief, and creating space for raw emotion in fitness classes and community spaces. Reframing Injury as Information: Overcoming a torn meniscus, finding joy in being a beginner again, and keeping identity separate from physical output. Her Current Training Stack: Transitioning away from marathon training, working with a personal trainer, and balancing discipline with real-life fun. Neutrality Over Toxic Positivity: How Jess looks in the mirror today, embracing imperfection, and giving herself grace on the days when "positive" feels out of reach. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "Becoming is better than being ... there's something about learning that excites me." "Clarity gives you what you need, even if it doesn't give you what you want." "I'm me. I'm never going to be anyone else. Might as well hype myself up in the best way that I can. And if I can't push myself to positive, just keep it to neutral." SOCIAL@jesssims@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Returning to Seawheeze & Dreaming Bigger
In this episode of 5-Minute Friday, Emily reflects on a major full-circle moment after returning to Vancouver for the lululemon SeaWheeze race weekend. Eight years ago, standing at a lululemon Vision & Goals session in that very same city, she put a terrifyingly big goal out into the universe: to make Hurdle her full-time job. Fast forward to today, and that vision has grown bigger than she could have ever imagined. Emily shares why it's crucial to give yourself permission to "think big," allow room for best-case scenarios, and celebrate every step of the journey. Plus, she answers a listener question about transitioning back into a regular routine post-marathon training and shares her go-to quick post-workout hacks. WEEKLY THOUGHT PROMPT: "What is one big goal you want to put out into the universe right now, and how can you take the first step toward going after it?" MENTIONED & RELATED LINKS: Read Emily's Marathon Prep Playbook (Part 1) on Substack SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Finding Answers: Colleen Quigley on Injury Lessons, Stepping Into HYROX & Owning Her Worth
This week on Hurdle, Emily sits down with Olympian, lululemon ambassador, and Meridia founder Colleen Quigley for a candid, post-USATF Championships catch-up in New York City. Ten years after making her first Olympic team, Colleen reflects on the physical and mental shifts that have reshaped her career. After finally getting clarity on a decade-long foot injury, Colleen shares how embracing that answer allowed her to release the pressure of track racing and open the door to exciting new challenges—including stepping into the world of HYROX, navigating a major home renovation in Boulder, and stepping into her power as a brand advocate and team leader. Together, Emily and Colleen dive into what it takes to own your worth as an athlete, the importance of telling authentic stories beyond a 15-second social clip, and why trusting your gut is the ultimate key to conquering life's hurdles. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS Finding Clarity & Letting Go: Colleen details the breakthrough image that revealed a chronic Lisfranc injury and arthritic foot changes, giving her the peace and permission to step away from chasing track trials and shift toward new goals. Entering the HYROX World: Why Colleen is diving into HYROX training, how it fulfills her need for high-energy indoor events, and the spontaneous doubles pact forged right on the mic. The Evolution of Team Meridia: Transitioning from competing alongside her teammates to serving as a full-time leader and story-teller, giving female athletes the mic to share their full journeys. Navigating Brand Deals & Self-Worth: Colleen breaks down how she learned to negotiate without an agent, why saying "no" creates space for the right partnerships, and how she empowers her athletes to recognize their market value. Life in Boulder & Modern Content: A look at Colleen and Kevin's massive historic home renovation, plus a discussion on why audiences crave raw, long-form connection over hyper-polished social clips. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I don't know if there's anything that will make me feel the way that trying to go to the Olympics made me feel ... but I'm just ready for a new challenge. I'm ready for something different that makes me get excited and doesn't make me feel defeated." "I'm excited to be able to say yes to those things that I've been missing out on... to say yes to fun runs, vacations, or doubles at HYROX. Saying yes to a lot of new, fun adventures." "Every single deal doesn't have to work out. It just makes space for something else. You have to have some kind of trust that the world is going to look out for you, as long as you're showing up in a way you can be proud of." "If you believe it to be true and you feel like you know something, own it and act accordingly." SOCIAL@steeple_squigs@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: 5 Pre-Flight Habits for Stress-Free Travel
This week, Emily's diving into into her personal pre-travel routine and non-negotiables that make traveling—and returning home—a seamless, stress-free experience. Ahead of her trip to Vancouver to run the lululemon Seawheeze Half Marathon, Emily shares the essential prep steps she takes to protect her peace, maintain productivity, and stay organized. Plus, she answers a listener question about budget-friendly solo travel, offering practical tips on where to go and how to make the most of your time. Weekly Prompt What is one non-negotiable you MUST do before you travel, and what is one non-negotiable you always bring with you? SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It's Not Black & White: Amanda Vestri on Trusting Her Training, Embracing Discipline & the Power of Rest
This week, I'm sitting down with professional runner Amanda Vestri, and she opens up about the mental grit required to perform at the highest level, the tricky balance between self-criticism and self-appraisal, and how she’s learning to celebrate her wins while staying hungry for future gains. We talk her impressive 2:24 PR at the Boston Marathon—only her second time tackling the 26.2-mile distance—and why even bettering your best can be a disappointment sometimes. IN THIS EPISODE Reframing Self-Criticism: How Amanda navigates her internal dialogue after big performances and learns to appreciate her progress rather than immediately reaching for the next goal. The Long-Term View: Why prioritizing physiological health, consistent fueling, and mandatory rest days takes precedence over quick, short-term fixes. The Power of Community: How having supportive teammates like Jess McClain keeps her grounded, keeps training in perspective, and reminds her that individual success never diminishes the win for others. Finding the Fun in the Grind: What it takes to enjoy 25-mile long runs in the Florida humidity and why surrounding yourself with family makes all the difference. Social Media & Public Visibility: Navigating the vulnerability of putting yourself online, balancing authenticity with performance, and staying present amidst future goal-setting. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "Don't put yourself in these black-and-white categories. Just get up, it's another day, and try again." "Every workout is not going to be a home run and doesn't need to be a home run... those workouts that are really tough that you have trouble getting through, those are the ones that help you for the marathon." "I'm going to run the best when I'm the happiest, so that's just kind of what I'm going to do." "If you learn from [an injury], it's not a waste." SOCIAL@a_vestri@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: If You're Not Joy Spotting, You Should Be
Checking in four weeks out from the Sydney Marathon and reflecting on a foundational mental practice: joy spotting. After an off-feeling weekend interaction, Emily shares how she made a conscious choice to respond instead of react—focusing on present-moment joys like fresh journals, good coffee, homemade shakshuka, and time at the track. Plus, she answers a listener question from Anna about how to overcome intimidation and launch a podcast of your own. In This Episode: Sydney Marathon Countdown: Emily reflects on her training build as she gets ready to travel to Australia for the big race. The Power of "Joy Spotting": How to consciously steer your focus toward micro-moments of joy when stress or negative interactions try to take over. Responding vs. Reacting: Recognizing that your body can't always distinguish between physical and emotional stress, and why choosing how you respond is a superpower. Listener Q&A: Emily breaks down how she launched Hurdle in 2018, her go-to gear recommendations for beginners, and why consistency is the most important factor in starting your own show. Weekly Prompt: What is one thing on your joy list that you can do this weekend? SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Small Island, Big Dreams: Julien Alfred On Channeling Grief Into Greatness, Stepping Away to Reset & Embracing Her Race-Day Alter Ego
This week on Hurdle, Emily sits down with Olympic and Indoor World Champion Julien Alfred. The track and field star opens up about navigating the mental ups and downs of elite competition, moving away from home at age 14 to pursue her dreams, and learning how to protect her inner peace amid massive international success and public attention. Julien shares how she overcomes self-doubt, handles the pressure of representing Saint Lucia on the global stage, and why giving herself grace has been key to her growth both on and off the track. IN THIS EPISODE Navigating Mental Rough Patches: Julien reflects on starting the season in a difficult mental space, questioning her abilities, and how stepping back helped her reset and realign. Overcoming Loss & Finding Drive: How losing her father at a young age shaped her resilience and continues to inspire her athletic journey today. Handling High Pressure: What it’s like to carry the expectations of an entire country while learning to focus on her own personal growth and goals first. Protecting Inner Peace: Why Julien steps away from social media and media noise to surround herself with a strong support system that values her for who she is, not just what she accomplishes on the track. The Move at Age 14: The immense sacrifice of leaving Saint Lucia as a teenager for Jamaica to train, and how that leap of faith prepared her for college and professional success. Game Face vs. Real Life: The contrast between Julien’s calm, peaceful personality off the track and her focused, "all business" alter ego on race day. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I am just such a resilient person, a strong person, that if I'm down for a short time, I know I'm going to find my way to get back to the top." "It's okay to give yourself grace. It's okay to mess up sometimes. That's part of being human." "Small island, big things—you can just do whatever you put your mind to, no matter where you're from." "On the track, I'm a different person. It's all business... There's nothing to smile about until I cross that line first." [email protected]@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: An Unhinged 19 Miles On a Treadmill
When NYC air quality made outdoor running impossible, I faced a choice: split up my 19-mile long run, or take on the "unhinged" challenge of tackling it all on a treadmill. In this 5-Minute Friday, I’m talking about the mental gymnastics of long-distance running, why we need to collect "evidence" of our past resilience to get through hard moments, and how I'm balancing running four days a week with strength training as I prepare for the Sydney Marathon. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Finding Peace On The Trail: Becs Gentry On Pushing Physical Limits, Adventure Beyond 40 & Owning Your Realness
This week, Emily sits down live at Rivian HQ in New York City with long-time friend of the show, Peloton instructor, and HOKA Global Brand Ambassador Becs Gentry. In front of a live audience, Becs opens up about stepping away from the road-racing spotlight and returning to her trail-running roots as she prepares for two of the biggest, high-altitude, high-heat races of her life. She shares how turning 40 has changed her physical relationship with her body, what diligence looks like while juggling motherhood and a full-time career, and why giving yourself grace to rest is just as important as putting in the miles. IN THIS EPISODE Training for Extreme Heat and Altitude: Becs shares the reality of preparing a sea-level body for thousands of feet of elevation gain in 90+ degree heat while balancing her daily responsibilities. The Return to the Trails: Why returning to trail running after years of elite road racing serves as a mental reset, offering much-needed solitude and peace away from constant visibility. Navigating 40 and Body Changes: Becs candidly reflects on how hitting age 40 made her feel more vulnerable to stress and fatigue, and how she's learning to listen to her body's evolving needs. Redefining Diligence and Grace: How juggling motherhood, partnership, and professional commitments reshaped her definition of success—and why showing up on an "A" level isn't always possible or necessary. A Wild Appalachian Trail Run: The unbelievable story of a solo trail run that included close encounters with a bear, a snake, a snapping turtle, a dog, and a porcupine. Recovery and Unplugging: The daily recovery habits keeping her grounded, including acupuncture, Normatec boots, magnesium, reduced screen time, and getting back into reading fiction. Best Advice for Her Younger Self: The piece of wisdom Becs would offer her 30-year-old self looking back on a decade of growth and career transitions. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "Diligence isn't always about showing up on that 'A' level. Diligence is about showing up for all of the hats and the roles that you have Coast to play in your life, and being okay with that." "When you're juggling, you need to know which balls are glass and which balls are rubber—and allow yourself to know which one is which each day." "The world is tough right now, but there is a chance for all of us to see it as a happy place. We just have to consciously correct our algorithms." "Don't be overconfident, but don't undersell yourself." SOCIAL@becsgentry@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: In Favor Of Consistency Over Perfection
Emily is pulling back the curtain on a massive, exciting new project she’s producing for Nike’s Global Running Head Coach, Coach Bennett, in celebration of their After Dark series. Diving into this international production has Emily reflecting on what it’s like to work within a team again after nearly a decade of being her own boss. She breaks down her go-to strategy for staying productive when the calendar gets packed (hello, timed to-do lists!) and shares a personal "story time" about conquering a tough running workout on the treadmill when Canadian wildfire smoke compromised the local air quality. Plus, Emily answers a listener question about preparing for a first marathon, offering invaluable advice on mindset, expectations, and the importance of putting in the work. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODECoach Bennett's podcast: Introducing, The After Dark Series SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mastering Your Mindset: Laura Thweatt On Transitioning From Competitor to Coach & Being Your Own Biggest Hype Human (Hellen Obiri's, Too)
This week, Emily sits down in Paris with Laura Thweatt, three-time US Cross Country National Champion, top-10 finisher at major marathons like New York and Chicago, and the assistant roads team coach for the On Athletic Club (OAC). Fresh off her stellar 13-year professional running career, Laura discusses transitioning from elite athlete to coaching world-class talent, navigating injury cycles, and why she is passionate about helping female athletes understand their own physiology to unlock peak performance. IN THIS EPISODE The Transition to Coaching: Laura explains her role with OAC, helping to construct and build out a specialized marathon team alongside coach Dathan Ritzenhein. A Lifelong Passion: Why a stint coaching high school cross country at Monarch High School made Laura realize she wanted to stay on the coaching side of the sport after hanging up her own competitive sneakers. The Power of Female Physiology: Laura opens up about why women need spaces to comfortably discuss their menstrual cycles, recovery, and training adjustments to treat their bodies like a superpower. Tracking and Biofeedback: How OAC is working with tools like the Oura Ring to help athletes track data, optimize their schedules, and actively reduce injury risks. Navigating Chronic Injury: A deep dive into Laura's battle with osteitis pubis (inflammation of the pubic symphysis) and how complete time away from running reshaped her listening relationship with her body. Small Wins and Journaling: Why tracking tiny daily progression points became a vital mental health tool when facing an extended recovery with no clear return date. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "So many of my hardships in my running, in life, have always taught me that in the moment it’s so hard to see, but it’s what sets you up for the things that come later." "If you don't schedule breaks for yourself, your body will eventually force you to take one." "I believe in myself the way that I want my athletes to believe in themselves. We’re a team... I have to believe in myself that I can help them get there." SOCIAL@lthweatt@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: When Everything Starts Clicking
In this edition of 5-MINUTE FRIDAY, Emily dives deep into a word that gets tossed around a lot in the wellness world: alignment. Stripping away the superficial aesthetics of social media, she shares what true alignment actually feels like in practice—and why she is finally experiencing it after seasons of feeling out of it. Plus, she shares a powerful mindset shift for handling good seasons, plugs a new project, and takes a listener question about crafting the ultimate New York City summer vision board. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODECoach Bennett's podcast: Introducing, The After Dark Series SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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No Bad Days: Masai Russell Talks Confidence Over Cockiness & Shifting From Hurdling Underdog To The One To Beat
Welcome Olympic Champion Masai Russell back to Hurdle! Fresh off her historic performances in the 100-meter hurdles, recently clocking a 12.14 for the second fastest time in history and a win at Pre Classic, Masai opens up about her rapid rise to the top and the evolution of her mindset. Emily and Masai dive deep into the essential difference between having confidence and being cocky, and how Masai protects her peace by switching her focus from standard expectations to execution. Masai reflects on transitioning from an underdog mentality to navigating the pressure of being the one to beat, sharing how she trains her mind to view every performance—good or bad—as an opportunity to sharpen her greatness. From tracking meticulous micro-improvements to redefining what "speed" truly means to her, Masai reveals what it takes to relentlessly pursue her potential and become an undeniable legend in her sport. IN THIS EPISODE The Reality of Expectations: Masai reflects on her transition from the "underdog" to the reigning Olympic Champion, sharing how she had to learn to navigate the immense weight of external expectations. Confidence vs. Cockiness: How to separate knowing what you bring to the table from being arrogant, rooted in humble beginnings, hard work, and a tight-knit connection to her community. Silencing the Outer Noise: Masai opens up about her mental strategy for keeping the blinders on, treating every major competition as "just another day with the same ten hurdles," and turning down the volume on her own mind. The No Bad Days Protocol: A look at how shifting her perspective allowed her to stop looking at setbacks as failures, choosing instead to view every statistical loss as a critical lesson that sets up future greatness. The Next Chapter: Masai chats about the microscopic physical adjustments that unlocked her 12.14 performance, why she welcomes the pressure of world-record predictions, and her ultimate vision to become an undeniable legend in the sport. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "When that gun goes off, like whatever everyone else says, like none of that matters... at the end of the day, Masai is the one that has to get on that line, execute it, do it, and really not talk about it, but really do it." "I have had very humble beginnings. I have not come from a winning background. I have had to work for everything that I've gotten, which is why I think that my audience... they're so tight-knit because of the confidence that I exude, but it's also in a way that I'm so sure about myself." "I feel like I will never lose ... statistically I may lose, but everything from a loss, I always take it as a lesson to just set me up for where I'm at." "Your thoughts are just your thoughts, and what you put flesh into or what you put life into, that's the reality that you'll get out of it. Quiet your brain down sometimes." SOCIAL@masai_russell@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Me Vs. Me
In this installment of Five-Minute Friday, Emily checks in from the Nike headquarters in Beaverton, Oregon. After a whirlwind week of travel—flying from Paris back to Brooklyn, and then straight to Oregon—she opens up about overcoming the mental hurdles of getting back onto the running track. Emily reflects on pushing past old narratives of self-doubt during a challenging interval workout, using the experience as a powerful reminder to practice self-grace. Plus, she answers a listener question on how to safely navigate outdoor solo runs while traveling in unfamiliar territory. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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160+ Miles Of Grit: Des Linden Talks Her Desert Ultramarathon, the Business Of Being An Athlete & The Power Of the Pivot
In this episode of Hurdle, host Emily Abbate sits down with two-time Olympian and 2018 Boston Marathon champion Des Linden for a conversation about redefining limits. Fresh off completing the legendary Marathon des Sables (MDS)—a grueling, self-supported 167-mile stage race across the Sahara Desert—Des takes listeners directly inside her tent. She shares the realities of surviving on grit, managing endless blisters, and navigating the longest run of her life: a staggering 62-mile day. Des breaks down the exact mindset it takes to avoid "negotiation mode" when the going gets tough and explains how her recent transition into the ultra-trail world has altered her relationship with the sport. Plus, she gives us a behind-the-scenes look at running the Boston Marathon as a "commoner" alongside her husband, Ryan, and her recent trip to the London Marathon. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS The Reality of MDS: Why Des swapped the roads of Michigan for the Sahara, how she managed self-supported gear, and what it’s really like to share a rudimentary tent with seven other runners. Silencing the Inner Negotiator: Des outlines her mental strategy for pushing through low moments and why reaching a state of self-pity only slows down forward momentum. The Blister Protocol: A look at managing the inevitable physical toll of a multi-day desert race and choosing to stay positive through the discomfort. Boston as a one of us: What it felt like to start further back in the corrals, weave through massive crowds, and burn extra matches to finish right before her husband, Ryan. The Next Chapter: Des chats about her strategic pivot to media and storytelling with her podcast Nobody Asked Us, her upcoming plans for the Chicago Marathon, and her sights set on the Havlina 100. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "The guardrails are off. Let's see where this goes." "This is literally what you signed up for... make the decisions to make the right choices because that's really what the event for me is all about." "As soon as we start to feel sorry for ourselves, it's like, you're just not going to be productive. So, take the little wins." "No one's going to fight for you as much as you... if you're not believing in yourself even more than everyone else, you've got to really think about what you're doing." SOCIAL@des_linden@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Why Runners Have a Secret Weapon In HYROX
In this episode of 5-MINUTE FRIDAY, Emily checks in from a very warm Paris after a whirlwind trip to Stockholm and Copenhagen. She dives deep into her experience spectating her first-ever HYROX World Championships, as a guest of Red Bull, sharing her top takeaways on the booming fitness phenomenon, the unique dynamics of competing in doubles, and why running endurance might just be your secret weapon to crushing a HYROX event. Plus, Emily answers a listener question about maintaining healthy routines and supplement games while constantly traveling for work. Highlights & Takeaways: The HYROX Breakdown: A run-down of the 8km format and its functional fitness stations, including the ski erg, sled push/pull, rowing, sandbag lunges, farmers carry, and wall balls. Doubles Strategy: Why competing with a partner might be the way to go, and how you can strategically split up stations based on your individual strengths. The Endurance Advantage: Why an aerobic running base is a massive asset in HYROX, and how it differs from a pure strength-focused training approach. Q&A—Routine on the Road: Emily’s top tips for maintaining your workout schedule, journaling habits, and supplement routine (from creatine to AG1) while traveling. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Let Me Reintroduce Myself: Emily Talks Her Running Journey & The Next Chapter For Hurdle
Welcome to Season 21 of Hurdle! To kick off this brand-new chapter, host Emily's going solo to share the deeply personal evolution of her relationship with running, her career, and herself. From being cut from the JV volleyball team in high school to weighing 200+ pounds as a college freshman, Emily opens up about the pivotal moment that changed everything and the simple decision that started it all: learning to keep showing up for herself, one step at a time. Whether you are a seasoned marathoner, balancing the demands of a freelance career, or looking for the inspiration to conquer your own current hurdles, this episode serves as a powerful reminder that you belong exactly as you are. Key Takeaways & Highlights The Turning Point: Emily revisits her freshman year at the University of Connecticut, stepping on a dusty scale under her bunk bed, and the counter-intuitive sprint that sparked her health journey. The "Half-Mile" Summer: The hilarious and humbling realization that the "mile" she thought she was running every day at summer camp was actually just a half-mile—and why being bad at something is the first step to getting good. The Career Hustle: A winding look through Emily’s nearly 20-year journalism career—from associate editor at The Stir to fitness editor roles at Rodale and Self, and finally, the leap of faith into full-time freelancing and starting Hurdle. Understanding Opportunity Cost: How a casual glass of wine and a conversation on a New York rooftop redefined the sacrifices required to achieve big athletic and personal goals. Looking Ahead to Sydney: Emily gives an update on her current training block for the upcoming Sydney Marathon on August 30th, balancing high-mileage goals with a busy travel schedule. Memorable Quotes "I am talking about what happens to your mind, and your confidence, and your life when you decide to keep showing up for yourself, one step at a time." "You belong exactly as you are." Links & Resources Follow Hurdle: @hurdlepodcast Follow Emily: @emilyabbate Subscribe to the Newsletter: The Weekly Hurdle on Substack Email the Show: [email protected] If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and don't forget to share it with a friend who might need a little extra inspiration to conquer their own hurdles this week! SOCIAL@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Powerful Perk of Repetition
News: Hurdle is heading into a brief summer season break for the next two weeks! This week: Talking about the powerful feelings of purpose and intention that accompany the start of a new training cycle as she gears up for the Sydney Marathon. Emily reflects on the concept that we become better at the things we do repeatedly—whether that means running, writing, or even letting anxious thoughts drive our decisions. She challenges listeners to audit what they are pouring their energy into and reminds everyone that they have the power to choose the words and behaviors that define their lives. Later in the episode, Emily answers a listener question from Joan about post-marathon recovery. She offers practical, reassuring advice on handling "fitness FOMO," the importance of taking a full two weeks off from running to let the body absorb its hard work, and how to safely cross-train with low-resistance cycling. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Egg Freezing 101: Unpacking My Experience & Talking Fertility Q&A With Dr. Michelle Kappy
In this episode, Emily sits down with her own fertility specialist, Dr. Michelle Kappy, a board-certified OB/GYN and reproductive endocrinologist at Spring Fertility. After undergoing her own egg freezing journey under Dr. Kappy's care, Emily opens up about the intimate, often overwhelming logistics and physical realities of the procedure. Together, they pull back the curtain on the entire process—demystifying everything from medication protocols and managing your physical movement during stimulation, to understanding the biological changes to egg quality and quantity as women head into their mid-30s. Whether you are actively considering preserving your fertility, are currently in the middle of a cycle, or simply want a better grasp of reproductive health and science, this deep dive offers a comforting, text-book level understanding of the choices available to you. Dr. Kappy brings a patient-centric, empowering approach to the conversation, explaining that information-gathering is the first and most critical step to taking control of your reproductive autonomy. IN THIS EPISODE Emily's personal recovery timeline, physical side effects, and how she safely modified her strength training and running habits post-procedure. Why scaling back physical movement—and avoiding high-stress abdominal workouts—is medically critical to prevent safety risks like ovarian torsion as follicles grow. Demystifying the "35-year-old cliff" and looking honestly at how egg quality and quantity naturally shift as women age. Step-by-step breakdowns of standard stimulation medications, the daily purpose of monitoring appointments, and what actually happens during a 15-minute extraction procedure. Managing expectations around the natural "attrition rate"—from the initial follicle count visible on an ultrasound to the final number of mature, genetically viable eggs that make it to deep freeze. Navigating the intense financial and emotional burdens of the process, and the unique mental load of choosing to freeze your eggs independently. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "It's okay to just get information and just to make a consult and talk to an expert and then decide from there." "Information gathering is one of the biggest goals that I have for patients... so they can feel armed with that empowerment." "The ominous 'cliff' is this biological clock that unfortunately really is a thing. It is a biological change... but you don't fall into a black hole where you are no longer fertile." "People do hang their hats on a number... but it really doesn't define someone. You could have a high number and have done everything wrong in your life, or you could have a low number and have done it all right." "Don't let the number define you... [Egg freezing] is the only thing that you can do to protect your reproductive autonomy and to give yourself optionality." SOCIAL@springfertility@michellekappymd@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Stepping Into a New Chapter
Can you even believe that it is about to be June? As I approach my 38th birthday, I'm feeling a certain way and doing a lot of reflecting. Sharing a powerful prompt from my Substack newsletter to help you do a personal inventory of your own life. Plus, answering a listener question from Shannon about running shoes, breaking down the difference between a classic neutral shoe and plated carbon-fiber options. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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From College Standout To Pro Athlete: Samirah Moody On Transitioning To the Big Leagues, the Importance Of Staying Even-Keeled & Finding Strength In Faith
Samirah Moody is a professional runner for On, recednt USC graduate, and a founding member of the newly minted OAC (On Athletics Club) Sprint team. Coming off a stellar collegiate career—including a 2025 NCAA championship in the 100 meters—Samirah is stepping onto the global pro circuit with a fresh perspective, a deeply hardened sense of resilience, and a powerful inner drive. In this episode, Samirah pulls back the curtain on the intense physical and mental grind of elite training under renowned head coach John "JB" Bolton. She details the dramatic shift from the college routine to the professional world, where the job requires balancing world-class track workouts with photo shoots, media appearances, and constant networking. Samirah opens up about the devastating meniscus injury that threatened her trajectory, the grueling rehabilitation process that followed, and the exact moment she shifted her mindset from "I have to do this" to "I get to do this." Plus, she shares what it’s like to navigate a high-pressure environment as the only short sprint woman on the OAC roster, and how journaling helps her process the weight of big expectations. IN THIS EPISODE The Leap to the Pros: Samirah breaks down what it really looks like to move from a collegiate schedule to the OAC Sprint team, balancing elite physical training with the commercial obligations of a professional athlete. Finding Your "No": Why learning to set boundaries and protect her personal bandwidth has been an essential part of stepping into her own power on and off the track. Overcoming the Hurdle: A transparent look at her severe meniscus injury during her junior year, leaving the stadium in a wheelchair, and the psychological journey of rebuilding her body from ground zero. Mindset Shift: How she reframed her inner dialogue from a place of obligation to an appreciation for the opportunity to compete at the highest level. Being the Only One: What it feels like to hold down the short sprints on the OAC roster, staying even-keeled through high stakes, and the everyday power of processing pressure through a personal journal. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "If I could do all that, why not me?" "You have to believe that you’re a big dog to really line up with the best of the best." "I don’t know when something’s going to click, but I’m just going to keep chugging along because I’ve seen really, really highs and really, really lows, and I’ve been everywhere in between." "The world can put a lot of pressure on you ... but it is really about how much do you want something? I need that pressure to succeed." SOCIAL@samirahmoody_@on@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Importance Of Finding Your Own Rhythm
Checking in from sunny Los Angeles! Talking about OAC's new Sprint team, and reflecting on a recent run at the Silver Lake Reservoir following my Brooklyn Half Marathon completion. Talking about my journey of embracing grace, slowing down, and practicing mindfulness during seasons of flux. Plus: Answering a listener question from Jen in Seattle regarding heart rate spikes and mastering diaphragmatic breathing while running. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Built on Consistency: Katie Ledecky on Reframing Hard Days, Swimming Into the Record Books & Inspiring the Next Generation
In this week's rewind episode, Emily sits down with four-time Olympian Katie Ledecky, the most decorated American female Olympian in history. Ledecky brings us back to her roots, talking about her first-ever goals in swimming and how she originally fell in love with the sport at age six. The swimming legend shares her perspective on the grueling work required to maintain excellence over a two-decade career, regularly logging 20+ hours a week in the water and another 6 to 7 hours in the gym. Katie opens up about how she handles pre-race nerves, her mental strategies for befriending pain in the final meters of a race, and how she breaks down monumental goals into small, doable pieces. Plus: The deep impact of her family, what it’s like to drop into a random local pool for lap swim, and what true lifestyle balance looks like for her outside of training. She also touches on what it means to be a powerful role model and how that mission became even more meaningful when she partnered with Athleta’s Power of She collective. IN THIS EPISODE How does Katie Ledecky befriend pain? She recalls a defining 1500-meter race from the 2014 Pan Pacific Championships where she hit a wall of pain at the 900-meter mark but pushed through to pick up her split times. Katie talks about how she feels about what she’s achieved in her 22-year career in sport. Having far surpassed her childhood dreams, she shares how she continues to set bigger goals while maintaining her passion. What is Katie Ledecky’s "why" in swimming? She discusses balancing her personal drive to find the best version of herself with a deep joy for inspiring the next generation of athletes. How Katie Ledecky fuels to train and perform. She walks through her daily nutrition schedule, navigating early morning practices, and structuring a balance of protein and carbs. How much sleep does Katie Ledecky get and what she does when she doesn’t get as much as she’d like. Katie discusses aiming for 8 to 9 hours a night and the sacred role of her daily midday nap. What it was like for Katie to follow in her brother’s footsteps in the pool. She reflects on looking up to her older brother, Michael, and following him into the sport. What Katie Ledecky’s relationship is with goal setting and how that has evolved since she started swimming. She explains her childhood habit of writing down "want times" to gamify her progress. What are Katie Ledecky’s current goals? She focuses on the upcoming World Aquatic Championships in Singapore and building consistency in her training block. How does Katie Ledecky reframe negative self-talk? She shares her approach to managing off-days in practice by finding small technical elements to adjust and relying on the positive energy of her teammates. Katie talks about the most difficult hurdle of her professional career—navigating the uncertainty, isolation, and training adjustments brought on by the 2020 Olympic postponement. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "Nerves are a good thing. It means you care about what you're about to do... Knowing that you're prepared for the biggest stage and you're ready—that’s one of the best feelings in the world." "Even if you hit that point in that race, you can push past it and maybe even go faster. It's always interesting to learn those things, and I'm still learning at this age. That's what keeps it fun for me." "I'm always just trying to push myself and trying to be the best version of myself that I can be... If we can encourage each other to pursue those passions, pursue those big goals, beautiful things happen." "I can't be at 100% every single day. But if I'm at 80%, I've got to give 100% of my 80%. I just try to be as consistent as I can be on a day-to-day basis." "Keep it moving. If you keep moving forward, you're going to make progress, you're going to have a good day." SOCIAL@katieledecky@womenshealthmag@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Being A Beginner Is A Prerequisite For Greatness
As she prepares for the Brooklyn Half, Emily's looking back at her first 13.1-mile race in 2008 and the massive health transformation that led her there. Today, Emily discusses the beauty of progress and the reality of "readiness." She's sharing her perspective on why being a beginner is a prerequisite for greatness and how she maintains her fitness routine today—not for a specific time goal, but to feel like her most capable self. Plus, she answers a listener question from a new business owner about how to design a productive schedule and find motivation when you are your own boss. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Future of Women’s Sports: Amanda Lucci On Breaking Into the Press Room, the Power Of Narrative & Finding Growth In "No"
Amanda Lucci is the Director of Special Projects at Women's Health, where she has spent the last decade evolving the brand’s digital presence and spearheading their expansive coverage of women’s sports. From the sidelines of the WNBA to the mixed zones of the Paris Olympic Games, Amanda is on a mission to tell the stories of the women transforming the future of the industry—both on the court and behind the scenes. In this episode, Amanda opens up about her career pivot from entertainment journalism to becoming a powerhouse in sports media. She shares the raw reality of navigating a male-dominated press room and the importance of having women’s voices in those spaces to tell more nuanced, relatable stories. We also dive into her personal journey through a grueling multi-year fertility battle, how it reshaped her perspective on success, and how she balances the high-octane world of sports reporting with her newest role: being a mom. MENTIONEDThe HuddleGame Changers IN THIS EPISODE The Evolution of Women’s Sports: How Women's Health transitioned from standard fitness tips to deep-dive reporting on elite athletes and industry game-changers. Navigating the Press Room: Amanda describes the Olympic mixed zone and why female journalists are essential for asking the questions that actually resonate with athletes. A Personal Hurdle: The mental and physical toll of three rounds of IUI and four rounds of IVF, and how her passion for women's sports acted as a lifeline during that time. The Power of "No": Why her 2026 "word of the year" is focused on being selective with her energy and projects to show up fully for her family. New Ventures: The launch of The Huddle podcast and the excitement of moving from behind the camera to in front of the microphone. Predictions for the Future: Why Amanda believes sports like flag football and volleyball are on the cusp of a massive cultural explosion. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "If you're a sports fan, then you'll love women's sports. It is for you." "I want people to read our coverage and watch the game through a new lens... knowing who the people are and what makes them tick makes me so much more locked in." "I had to face the reality that at any point, this could go wrong. The entire experience is totally out of your control... but I realized I have such a full life that I will be okay, and I will be happy." "If you worry about something that hasn't happened, then it does happen, you just worried twice. You should live now, and we'll deal with it later." "I don’t look in the mirror every day and say, 'You go girl'... but ultimately, I am so proud of what I have overcome and the way I've grown personally and professionally." SOCIAL@alucci@womenshealthmag@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Stop Overcommitting Your Energy
It's absolutely beautiful in Brooklyn right now. After a whirlwind of travel to Boston, London, and Portland, being back home feels like a massive exhale. But as the weather warms up, social calendars tend to fill up fast. Today, Emily's evaluating how she navigates this busy season without overcommitting. She's sharing a couple essential gut-checks: asking yourself if an event provides energy or requires an unaffordable "withdrawal," and the importance of the "White Space Rule" to allow for spontaneity and mental resets. Plus, she answers a listener question about how to prioritize both time for self and socializing. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Bigger Than Volleyball: Carli Lloyd On Surmounting Setbacks, Training Your Mind & the Power of Self-Talk
In this episode of Hurdle, host Emily sits down with elite volleyball champion, Carli Lloyd. Carli shares her journey of grit and professional longevity, from a decorated 13-season international career to leading LOVB Austin to back-to-back League One Volleyball (LOVB) championships. She opens up about the "hurdle" of being cut from the national team multiple times before ultimately reaching the Olympic podium and discusses how she maintains an elite mindset through personal tragedy and the transition into motherhood. IN THIS EPISODE The Power of One Ball at a Time: Carli explains how her team overcame a rocky regular season by staying committed to the micro-process, eventually securing the 2026 LOVB title. Embracing the Hardship: Why she views failures and professional setbacks as mandatory opportunities for human evolution. The "Hurdle" of the National Team: Carli details the grueling four-year cycle of being cut and released from her dream, only to re-commit and finally earn her spot on the 2016 Olympic roster. Healing the Mind: An inside look at her multi-year investment in therapy, life coaching, and energy work to overcome the "not good enough" narrative. Legacy on Home Soil: The significance of playing professionally in the U.S. after over a decade abroad, and what it means for the next generation of young athletes to see the sport within reach. The Morning Routine: How meditation and journaling serve as non-negotiable "reps" for her mental health. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I’m here and still playing because I’ve been committed to the hard things. I’ve been committed to getting through them and welcoming them so I can learn and grow." "To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." "Hardship is where we learn the greatest lessons. When it presents itself, it’s here for a reason." "The way you’re talking to yourself—the story you’re telling yourself—is the most important thing you’re going to hear. It will change your life if you nurture it." SOCIAL@carlilloyd3@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Give Yourself Some Credit
Yesterday I got to sit down with the "Quad God", Ilia Malinin. Reflecting on that event—and a specific question about whether or not I have a manager—led me down a path of gratitude for the "hustle" and the career I've built by simply putting myself out there and treating people well. I’m diving deep into why we need to stop the comparison trap and start giving ourselves more credit for how far we’ve come. Plus, I answer a listener question from Tara, who is trading the Philadelphia for the Big Apple and needs the scoop on the best neighborhoods for safety and transit. SOCIAL@emilyabbate@hurdlepodcast@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG ChannelSIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle NewsletterASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Finding The Fun: Jess McClain On Her American Record At The 2026 Boston Marathon, Incremental Gains & The Future Of Women’s Distance Running
In this episode of Hurdle, host Emily sits down with professional runner Jess McClain fresh off her monumental performance as the top American finisher at the 2026 Boston Marathon. Recorded in London, where the duo got to run in the upcoming Brooks' upcoming Hyperion Elite 6 and cheer at the 2026 London Marathon, Jess unpacks the physical and mental evolution required to clock a personal best of 2:20:49 on one of the world's most challenging courses. From navigating the "what if" game to handling mid-race mishaps like dropping a fueling bottle, Jess shares a grounded, authentic perspective on what it means to find joy in professional sport. IN THIS EPISODE The Boston Breakthrough: Jess breaks down her strategy for the "Crest of Heartbreak Hill" and how her focus on downhill training and pace changes paid off in the final 10K. Silencing the "What If" Game: A deep dive into the mental shift Jess made during training—moving away from obsessing over variables she couldn’t control and focusing on being 1% better incrementally. Resilience Under Pressure: Jess reflects on the chaos of the Half Marathon Championships where she was directed the wrong way, and how that experience actually built her confidence for the high-stakes friction of Boston. Life Beyond the Miles: An honest conversation about the "other things" that bring joy, including Jess's experience with egg freezing, her thoughts on family planning, and the importance of a supportive partner who sees her greatness. The "My Way" Philosophy: Why Jess decided to stop trying to be a "robotic" athlete and instead leaned into her own unique rhythm, finding that her way is the best way for her. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "I think it’s being okay where you’re at and doing the most that you can day-to-day, week-to-week, to just be 1% better incrementally and not put so much pressure on the big dream." "I spent so much time being told that I shouldn't do anything else... that I'm not dedicated enough. And it's just so not true. You can plan for your future and still have a really kick-ass time running and racing at a high level." "Running's not going to go well all the time. You should be able to tap into other things that bring you joy." "I’ve put my health and the 'fun meter' on the front burner. It feels good to be like, my way is the best way for me, instead of trying to fit myself into so many different molds." SOCIAL@jesstonn@emilyabbate@iheartwomenssports JOIN: The Daily Hurdle IG Channel SIGN UP: Weekly Hurdle Newsletter ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hurdle is where real stories meet next-level ambition. Host, veteran journalist and coach Emily Abbate, interviews the most inspiring women in sports and wellness, peeling back the curtain on their journeys through vulnerable, deep conversation. Learn the secrets to their success, including the grit, glory, and crucial mindset lessons that help her level-up. Each conversation, a powerful reminder that we get to overcome, and embrace each hurdle to live happier, healthier, more motivated lives. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.
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