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Impact
by Revi Sterling and Alissa Stern
The business of doing good — examined honestly. IMPACT goes inside the funding models, origin stories, and hard decisions behind the world’s biggest nonprofits. Hosted by two people who’ve spent their careers inside the sector.Revi Sterling is Director of the Digital Impact Hub at CARE, where she leads digital development programming focused on women’s and girls’ empowerment. Alissa Stern is a serial nonprofit founder with a career at the intersection of law, technology, and international development. Her work is grounded in a systems-change approach to civic participation.
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Heifer International: A cow, a cup, or cash?
Pop quiz: What do Heifer International and World Central Kitchen have in common?For decades, Heifer International has let us give Uncle Gary a goat for his birthday — or, if we’re feeling flush, an entire $5,000 Gift Ark. But Heifer itself learned long ago that an animal alone rarely changes a life: lasting impact requires training, veterinary care, functioning markets and a way for farmers to actually earn a living. And there are critics: GiveWell has questioned the economics of the model, while Jane Goodall has called on charities to move away from live-animal gifting altogether. In the latest Perdure, we look at Heifer’s remarkable 80-year evolution and ask: what happens when the simple story that raises the money is no longer big enough to explain the work? Perdue is part of the Devex Podcast Network. We also partner with Alliance Magazine. Alliance Magazine has been covering global philanthropy and civil society since 1996 — Perdure listeners can subscribe with code PERDURE20 for 20% off.
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The Sierra Club: Secret money, board coups, and the trouble with anonymous gifts.
This episode traces its remarkable origin story, from Muir’s devastating loss at Hetch Hetchy to the audacious campaign that stopped two Grand Canyon dams and provoked the IRS. We follow the rise and firing of David Brower, the architect of the modern Sierra Club; uncover the secret gas money behind its campaign against coal; and revisit the immigration battles that exposed both the vulnerability and the power of its member-run democracy.Along the way, we encounter a $101.5 million anonymous gift, a disastrous partnership with Clorox, an attempted board takeover, the birth of Earthjustice, and Beyond Coal’s role in accelerating the retirement of hundreds of U.S. coal plants.It is a story about wilderness, money, power, and the recurring question at the heart of every mission-driven organization: Can democracy survive without disclosure?And after you listen to this, we encourage you to visit one of our favorite podcasts from Devex!
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What if everything you've been taught about running a non-profit is backwards? An interview with David Schizer.
What if everything you've been taught about running a nonprofit is backwards?In this episode of Perdure, we sit down with David Schizer—Dean Emeritus of Columbia Law School, former Executive Vice President and CEO of the century-old global humanitarian organization JDC, and author of How to Save the World in Six (Not So Easy) Steps. Drawing on decades of leading complex institutions, David explores why some organizations endure through funding shocks, political upheaval, and changing times while others don't.From why overhead is a poor measure of success to why nonprofits should be honest about failure, challenge their funders, and stop confusing activity with impact, David dismantles some of the sector's most deeply held assumptions. If you work in, fund, serve on the board of, or simply care about nonprofits, this conversation will challenge how you think about leadership—and what it really takes to save the world.
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Susan G. Komen Foundation: Can a non-profit own a color? The business and backlash behind the pink ribbon.
Can a nonprofit own a color? For decades, pink meant breast cancer awareness. But what happens when a symbol becomes so successful that it takes on a life of its own? From "Save the Tatas" merchandise to pink fried chicken buckets to breakthroughs in cancer treatment, this episode explores the strange, fascinating business history of Susan G. Komen.
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Susan G. Komen Foundation
Can an organization own a color?For decades, pink meant breast cancer awareness. But what happens when a symbol becomes so successful that it takes on a life of its own? From "Save the Tatas" merchandise to pink fried chicken buckets to breakthroughs in cancer treatment, this episode explores the strange, fascinating business history of the Susan G. Komen Foundation.Can a nonprofit own a color?For decades, pink meant breast cancer awareness. But what happens when a symbol becomes so successful that it takes on a life of its own? From "Save the Tatas" merchandise to pink fried chicken buckets to breakthroughs in cancer treatment, this episode explores the strange, fascinating business history of Susan G. Komen.
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UNICEF: How $17 became a global fundraising machine
You've probably shaken it—an orange cardboard box on Halloween night. But that box is just the beginning of one of history's most ingenious fundraising stories. We unpack how UNICEF went from a temporary postwar relief agency to a global money-moving machine with greeting cards, parametric insurance, and bond markets. What started with seventeen dollars changed everything!
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Girl Scouts: Why the brilliant cookie business became a trap
In this episode, we unpack the surprisingly complex business model behind the Girl Scouts of the USA cookie empire. From Thin Mints and local troop politics to national financial pressures and a shrinking membership base, the episode explores how a decentralized nonprofit built one of the most successful fundraising systems in history — and why that same structure now creates serious challenges. Along the way, they trace the origins of the movement in 1912 Savannah, break down how cookie money actually flows, and examine the tension between local ownership, national sustainability, and organizational identity. It’s a story about cookies, yes — but also about incentives, governance, trust, and what happens when a mission-driven institution outgrows the business model that made it famous.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The business of doing good — examined honestly. IMPACT goes inside the funding models, origin stories, and hard decisions behind the world’s biggest nonprofits. Hosted by two people who’ve spent their careers inside the sector.Revi Sterling is Director of the Digital Impact Hub at CARE, where she leads digital development programming focused on women’s and girls’ empowerment. Alissa Stern is a serial nonprofit founder with a career at the intersection of law, technology, and international development. Her work is grounded in a systems-change approach to civic participation.
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