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Into The Green Zone
by Ellen Masson
Welcome to Into the Green Zone, hosted by Accredited Exercise Physiologists Ellen Masson and Meredith Woolsey. Season five explores how you can rebuild your relationship with movement in a way that feels supportive, sustainable and realistic. We discuss the science behind exercise, challenge common myths and share practical ways to approach movement with more confidence and less pressure. This season is for people living with chronic illness, chronic pain, disability or neurodivergence, people recovering from an eating disorder, and anyone who feels worn down by all-or-nothing fitness advice. It also offers clinicians a more inclusive and person-centred way to talk about movement with their clients. A note about our earlier episodes: seasons one to four were released as Into the Red Zone and hosted by Ellen Masson and Tait Brown. Each episode features a different guest and explores a healthcare topic relevant to clients, clinicians or both. Once you fin
Episodes
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When Movement Doesn't Feel Safe
Why does your body sometimes resist movement, even when you genuinely want to exercise? In this episode of Into the Green Zone we explore how our past experiances shapes our relationship with movement. They explain why exercise can feel threatening for many people, especially those living with...
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Movement vs Exercise: Does It Really Matter?
Does walking to the letterbox count? What about gardening, housework, or five minutes of stretching?In this episode of Into the Green Zone we challenge the idea that only structured exercise is worthwhile. We explain why your body responds to effort, not labels, and how expanding your definition…
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Finding Your Movement Values
If you stripped away the pressure, guilt, and expectations, why would you choose to move? In this episode of Into the Green Zone we explore how our beliefs about exercise are often inherited from diet culture, family, school, healthcare, and society, rather than consciously chosen.Together we…
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You've Left Diet Culture... Or Have You?
You've stopped dieting. You don't count calories anymore. Maybe you've even unfollowed the fitness influencers.So why does movement still feel full of pressure? In this episode of Into the Green Zone we explore how diet culture continues to shape our relationship with exercise, even after we've...
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Why Exercise Feels Hard (And Why It's Not Your Fault)
Why does exercise feel so hard for so many people? In the first episode of Into the Green Zone we explore why movement can feel stressful, emotionally loaded, or impossible to stick with, and why that isn't a personal failure. We unpack how diet culture, healthism, productivity culture, and past...
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Roundtable - Genocide in Gaza
Join Ellen & Tait as they host a round table on the ongoing genocide in Gaza. If you want to reach out to any of the lovely guests you can find them on instagram. Andrew Natoli @andrewexphys Emily Walker @emwalker_exphys I could also encourage you to follow and check out their podcast...
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What is Long Covid? (ft Toby Coy)
Join Ellen & Tait as they sit down with Toby Coy to discuss long COVID. Toby shares insights into its symptoms, mechanisms, and prevention strategies, offering valuable knowledge in this concise discussion. The media seems to have moved on from COVID-19, but should we? What are we missing from…
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Lived Experiance with an Eating Disorder (ft Paved With Gold Podcast)
We are delighted to welcome Ash and Cal from the Paved with Gold Podcast to our show today. Paved with Gold is a podcast dedicated to exploring lived experiences with eating disorders. In this episode, Ash and Cal join us to share their personal stories of living with eating disorders and…
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D&M with Dan - Live from YMS
Join Dan, Ellen, and Tait for an ITRZ first! We are going live from Your Movement Space (YMS). Hear us rant and bant organically as we figure out what we should talk about for the podcast, something you will hear for the first time today. So sit back, and join us for a fun-filled, unhinged chat!...
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Evidence Based Pilates (Ft Adam McAtee)
We welcome Adam McAtee to ITRZ today to talk about evidence-based pilated and evidence-based movement more generally. Adam will break down the latest scientific findings, debunk myths, and discuss practical applications to enhance your Pilates or movement practice. Reach out to Adam: IG:...
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Caring for Culture in Health Care (ft Jyden Murray)
Today Jyden Murray joins us to discuss how we can close the gap and inequality that exists between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians. We discuss the history of these inequalities, ongoing intergenerational trauma, and how we can integrate cultural and traditional knowledge systems into…
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D&M with Dan - Last of the Q&A
This is part three and the final part of the Q and A series on D&M's with Dan. We hope you enjoy this EP and as always, leave a review and 5 stars, or else Tait will show up unannounced at your place. So sit back, and join us for a fun-filled, unhinged chat! Let's get started! 🎙️✨ Reach out to…
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To Diagnose or not to Diagnose, that is the Question (ft Ben Slade)
Come join ITRZ hosts Ellen and Tait as they have a casual chat with Ben Slade, a physiotherapist based in Adelaide. This chat had no pre-framing questions and no topic, everything that came up, came up organically. So sit back, and join us for a fun-filled, unhinged chat! Let's get started! 🎙️✨...
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D&M with Dan - For the Swifties
Come join ITRZ hosts Ellen and Tait on their DNM journey with the famous Daniel Armadillo (Arbilla). This part two of a Q and A series unpacks these questions and somehow amongst the shenanigans they seemly relate back to our queen and savior Tay Tay. We hope you enjoy this EP and as always…
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Roundtable - Putting "Allied" back into Allied Health
Today ITRZ hosts its first round table to unpacking the APA document describing the differences between EPs and Physios. If you want to reach out to any of the lovely guests you can find them on instagram. Andrew Natoli @andrewexphys Emily Walker @emwalker_exphys I could also encorage you to…
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Moving in a Fat Body (ft Ragen Chastain)
Hey there, wonderful listeners! We've got a fantastic episode lined up for you today as we welcome the incredible Ragen Chastain to the podcast! Ragen wears many hats – she's a Speaker, Writer, and Researcher delving into the intersection of weight science, weight stigma, health, and healthcare.…
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D&M's with Dan - Rainbows & Flowers
Hey there, wonderful listeners! Guess who's back? It's our fantastic guest turned co-host, Dan (we're still trying to remember his last name, though)! Get ready for the next episode of the D&M's with Dan series. In this episode, we're kicking off with your awesome questions from Instagram. You...
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Safe Fitness Spaces for the Queer Community (Ft Trinity Joy)
We welcome Trinity Joy, the owner of Chin Up Training, to the Red Zone today to discuss creating safer spaces for the LGBTQIA+/Queer community within health and fitness environments. In this episode, we explore the following questions with Trinity: What does it mean to be Queer and what does that...
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D&M's with Dan - Intersectionality
If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love it if you followed the podcast, left a review, or shared it with someone who might find it helpful. Connect with Ellen Masson Website: https://www.yourmovementspace.com.au/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/your.movement.space/ Email:...
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D&M's with Dan - Misogyny
We’re back with our esteemed guest turned co-host Dan Armadillo for a special intimate series, diving into vulnerable discussions about important issues relevant to healthcare professionals. In this episode, we dived into: - What made Dan start posting about misogyny - Our experiences with…
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Lived Experiance in a Fat Body (ft Samantha Jurkovic)
Samantha Jurkovic is a peer support worker who is here to talk about her lived experience navigating the world in a fat body. This is a must-listen episode for any listeners who are in a straight-sized or thin body. Please get behind Sam and give her all the love and support she deserves in this...
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Invisible Illness & POTS (Ft Jennifer Smallridge)
In this episode, we have the pleasure of hosting Exercise Physiologist Jennifer Smallridge from Connection Medicine Co. Get ready for an in-depth conversation as we delve into the world of "invisible illness" and why it is crucial to raise awareness around the struggles people have living with...
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Gatekeeping Movement on Social Media (ft Jared Maynard)
Welcome to another exhilarating episode of our podcast, where we proudly present our third encounter with the exceptional Jarad Maynard! Jarad has become an invaluable friend of the show, and today, we've given him an open platform to unleash his thoughts and engage in a cathartic rant. Buckle up...
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Managing Rejection & Ghosting in Allied Health (ft Quinn Henoch)
Quinn from clinical athlete joins us again for a very human episode. Today we are focusing on how to manage rejection from our clients in a few different forms. Quinn has a doctorate in physical therapy and is the director of Clinical Athlete. His organization aims to educate clinicians, coaches,...
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Navigating Weight Loss Goals from a Size-Inclusive Perspective (ft Meredith Woolsey & Alanah Reilly)
Today we dive deep into the topic of how to manage weight and shape concerns within the framework of a size-inclusive lens. We are joined by the owner of Move to Live in Adelaide and HAES exercise physiologist, Meridith. Alanah also joins us from Brisbane, she is the owner and director of…
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ACL Rehab (ft Steph Allen)
Welcome, Step Allen into the red zone. Dr. Steph Allen is a co-founder of the Level Up Initiative and an expert in ACL rehabilitation. Steph has just started her own business focusing specifically on ACL return to sport. Today Steph will be talking to us about: The current state of ACL rehab and...
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Trauma Informed Practice (ft Leanne Green)
Leanne is a size-inclusive APD with over 12 years of experience providing trauma-informed care to people across a diverse range of body sizes, abilities, and identities. Leanna also works as the manager for Weave Youth and Community Services in Waterloo. This podcast lets you dip your toe in the...
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Size Inclusive Practice (ft Meredith Woolsey)
Welcome, Meridith Woolsey into the red zone. Meridith is an exercise physiologist working from her own clinic "Move to Live". Her clinic is weight-neutral and she works in the Health At Every Size (HAES) paradigm of providing people of all shapes and sizes with healthcare tailored to them. Today...
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The Gates of Valhalla (ft John Flag)
Welcome back John Flag to the hot red, red zone. John is the founder of Rebuild Stronger and comes on to drop masterful truth bombs on tait and me. This one has all the bants you come for balanced out with a great conversation around powerlifting efficiency. Some topics covered today include…
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A reflection on Masters in Physiotherapy (Ft Judd Felsher)
Welcome to season 2 of ITRZ! Did you miss us? As a health care professional have you ever felt like if you just did enough further education eventually that whole of inadequacy would fill? Today we had the lovely Judd discuss with us his insights as an EP doing his master's in physiotherapy. If…
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Dysfunctional Exercise Habits (ft Danika Quesnel)
Today is Ellen's first solo episode with the lovely Danika Quesnel. Danika is a researcher focused on the role of exercise in the treatment of eating disorders. Since the completion of her MSc, Danika has contributed peer-review publications to the field of exercise and eating disorders,...
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Into the Mental Health Red Zone
Tait and Ellen get together to talk shit just like the OG episodes of the podcast, only with much better audio and sound quality. Getting back to our roots and pumping it up with a chat about our own struggles with mental health. If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love it if you followed the...
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Overdiagnosis and Overprescribing (ft Raphael Bender)
Ellen and Tait welcome Raphael Bender to the red zone. I can honestly say, Raph's ability to quote research is only second to Greg Lehman himself. Strap yourself in and bring a notebook cause you're going to want to catch the names of some of these papers. The main one is "Buy-in for back pain:...
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Athlete Care and Support (ft Quinn Henoch)
Ellen and Tait's long-time crush, Quinn Henoch, finally enters the red zone. Quinn has a doctorate in physical therapy and is the director of the clinical athlete. His organization aims to educate clinicians, coaches, and students in the realms of athlete health & performance. Dr. Quinn Henoch's...
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Eating Disorders In Sport (ft Fiona Sutherland)
We welcome Fiona Sutherland, director of the Mindful Dietitian, into the red zone today. Fionia is one nerdy and well-informed sports dietitian. She has worked with elite-level athletes including gymnasts and divers. Her knowledge and understanding of eating disorders in sport are unbelievable.…
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Crossing Educational Chasms (Ft Zak Gabor)
Today we welcomed Zac Gabor to the RED ZONE. Zac is a physical therapist at Boston Physical Therapy & Wellness as well as the president of The Level Up Initiative. An organization dedicated to ongoing education for exercise professionals with a focus on bridging the gap between university and...
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Short-sighted Health Care (Ft Luke Postlethwaite)
Today we welcomed Luke Postlethwaite to the RED ZONE, Clinic Owner and Director of The Biomechanics. Today we discussed. 1. What is short cited healthcare? 2. What are the long term implications of focusing on short term profits. 3. Different business models and how they impact exercise...
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Logical Fallacy (ft Daniel Arbilla)
Arabella? Armadillo? Who the hell knows. Our good mate Daniel (let me google how to actually spell his name) Arbilla rejoins into the red zone to talk all things logical fallacy. When we practice we assume that if we use an intervention, it is that specific intervention that makes the client...
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What the F**k is Podiatry (ft. Alex Murray)
Time to clear today's schedule as another episode of @into.the.red.zone has just dropped. If you are anything like me, I know shit all about podiatry and I will happily admit it. Anything beyond feet and orthotics and I am completely lost. Luckily, @makingsenseofpodiatry is here to enlighten us!...
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Don't Yuck My Yum (ft John Flagg)
John Flagg of Rebuild Stronger absolutely dominates ITRZ. This conversation was supposed to be about powerlifting performance and pain. However, in true ITRZ style, we spoke of nothing of the sort. Join us for rants and bants about pain in performance, social media's impact on strength athletes,...
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Psychologically Informed What Now? (Ft Anthony Berrick)
Anthony walks straight into the red zone this podcast. He is here to pump it up and take some names. Anthony is a clinical psychologist specializing in exposure therapy, acceptance commitment therapy, and anxiety. He is also an enthusiast of armadillo sanctuaries and has one at his place of work,...
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EP21: What To Do About Scans? (Ft: Jared Maynard)
Strap yourself in people! This one went off the rails. The lovely @jared.unbreakablestrength to drop some knowledge bombs and kick people in the face with pure unbreakable power. This conversation went on a massive tangent to the original topic. Pure chaos and carnage when you put these three in…
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EP20: Stop Pathologising Movement (ft Greg Lehman)
The man, the myth, the legend, Greg Lehman joins the red zone today to talk about all things movement optimization and movement variability. If you have been confused about neutral spine, good or bad movement, disc durability and it's placed in rehabilitation. This one is for you. Join us for an...
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EP19: Fat Acceptance (ft Rachel Roberts)
All of us have some level of Fatphobia, it's time to address it, accept it, and work towards a solution that doesn't exclude individuals in a larger from the conversation. Rachel Roberts is a fat-positive counselor working at make space counseling. She strives to help her clients learn to trust…
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EP18: Exercise Induced Hypoalgesia (Ft Matt Jones)
Today we have Matt Jones with us to discuss exercise-induced hypoalgesia. This is just a fancy way of saying pain reduction that results from a single bout of exercise. Matt is our first academic on the podcast. He is a lecture and researcher at UNSW with a wealth of knowledge to share. Let's...
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EP17: Motivational Interviewing (ft Jeff Rufila)
Do you label yourself as a person-centered AHP? Are you truly upholding this during your communication with clients and patients? Jeff Rufila is on this week to talk about motivational interviewing and how it is applied in practice. MI gives you a framework to listen to clients and help guide…
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EP16: Rants & Bants (ft Daniel Arbilla)
How the hell do you pronounce your name Mr Arabella? More into the red zone listeners are asking what is Daniel's last name? To be honest, I don't even know. Join Ellen, Tait & Dan for our first casual rants and bants episode. The topic of the day is "do EP's hate manual therapy?". Join us for…
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EP15: Ducks & Buckets (ft Jared Maynard)
Strap yourself in people cause this episode is off the handle. With a blood oath, we welcome Jared Maynard to the red zone. Tait and Jared develop a deep bromance and Ellen fails to keep this conversation on track. This discussion covers: *What is Pain? What is our understanding of pain? *Acute…
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EP14: Values-driven Care (ft Kimberlee Smee)
Tait and Ellen walk straight into the jungle with dietitian Kimberlee Smee. In today's episode, we discuss values-driven care and how this applies to eating disorder treatment as well as pain management. This is a juicy subject so let's jump right into the jungle. There ain't no weight classes…
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EP13: HAES in Bariatric Surgery (ft Laura King)
I am so excited to introduce the lovely Laura King to you all. Laura is a HAES allied dietician and exercise physiologist. Laura spent time working in environments that clashed with her values and ethics as a practitioner. Laura stresses the importance of HAES as a spectrum. Thus just because…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to Into the Green Zone, hosted by Accredited Exercise Physiologists Ellen Masson and Meredith Woolsey.
Season five explores how you can rebuild your relationship with movement in a way that feels supportive, sustainable and realistic. We discuss the science behind exercise, challenge common myths and share practical ways to approach movement with more confidence and less pressure.
This season is for people living with chronic illness, chronic pain, disability or neurodivergence, people recovering from an eating disorder, and anyone who feels worn down by all-or-nothing fitness advice. It also offers clinicians a more inclusive and person-centred way to talk about movement with their clients.
A note about our earlier episodes: seasons one to four were released as Into the Red Zone and hosted by Ellen Masson and Tait Brown. Each episode features a different guest and explores a healthcare topic relevant to clients, clinicians or both. Once you fin
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