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Just Getting Better
by Just Getting Better
Hosted by acclaimed wine writers and friends, Julia Coney and Michelle Williams, Just Getting Better is more than a podcast; the show is an engaging peek inside the private conversations, questions, and explorations of two fifty-something women—out loud. Think of it like two friends chatting about an array of women’s issues over a bottle of wine.Now, replace the wine with microphones.Whether they’re discussing the latest trends, tackling tough issues, or sharing a good laugh, Just Getting Better aims to create a space where women can feel seen, heard, and inspired.
Episodes
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Orange Wine & Spanish Cava: Wines That Go With Everything
This week’s wine picks come with fizz, flavor—and chips. Julia is sipping on Marqués de Cáceres Brut Cava, a dry Spanish sparkler crafted by winemaker María Gallo. She’s on a mission to expand everyone’s bubble vocabulary beyond Champagne and Prosecco—and explains why Cava deserves a spot in your...
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Stop Asking Where They Are: On Obama, Ownership & the Power of 3.5%
Stop asking where the Obamas are — and start asking what you can do. This week, we talk about ownership, the power of 3.5%, and why it only takes a small group to spark big change. Plus: Summer Fridays, Brad Pitt’s maybe-filler, Rare Beauty love, and an AITA about drinking alone that had us both...
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Two Stunning White Wines to Try: Leah Jorgensen & Massican Hyde Chardonnay
Two wines, two winemakers we love — and why these bottles deserve a spot in your summer lineup. Michelle kicks things off with Leah Jorgensen’s stunning Blanc de Cabernet Franc, a rare white wine made from Cab Franc grapes grown in Oregon. Bright, zesty, and full of minerality, it’s perfect for...
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Eating Alone, Being Bored & Naming Your Doctor: Owning Your Choices
We’re talking about the little things that say a lot—like eating alone, sitting in silence, and being honest about the work you’ve had done. From solo dinners and the lost art of boredom to calling out celebrity “natural” beauty claims, this one’s about owning your choices without apology.
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Wines With Heart: Black-Owned South African Blend & Sonoma Grenache
Great wine isn’t just about what’s in the glass—it’s about who makes it, and why their story matters. Julia and Michelle each bring a bottle this week that proves it: Julia pours a bright, easy-drinking white blend from I Best Wines, a Black woman–owned brand out of South Africa. A mix of Chenin...
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Sunscreen, Protein & Red Flags: What Really Matters This Summer
This week, we’re catching up on all the summer things—the funny, the frustrating, and the stuff no one really talks about. From sunscreen scars and protein pressure to public phone etiquette and a boyfriend who expected her to pick up the check (for 12 people), we’re talking about what it really...
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Summer Wines We’re Loving Right Now: Gewürztraminer & Glou-Glou
This week, Julia heads to the Finger Lakes with a 2019 Gewürztraminer from Dr. Konstantin Frank—off-dry, beautifully aged, and perfect for spicy food or peak summer salads. Michelle’s sipping “Glou Glou,” a chillable red from Troon Vineyard in southern Oregon. Made from Cinsault and Grenache…
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Judgment, Etiquette & Oversharing: What Happened to Decency?
In this episode of Just Getting Better, Michelle and Julia cover everything from poor airplane hygiene and dinner-table flossing to deeper reflections on how judgment and etiquette are showing up in our post-everything world. What starts as a hilarious catch-up on beauty finds and public pet…
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What to Drink This Week: Malbec, Mencía & a Travel Game-Changer
If life’s felt a little loud lately, consider this your reminder to slow down and pour something thoughtful. This week, Julia is sipping a high-altitude Malbec from Luigi Bosca Los Nobles—floral, engaging, and practically begging to be paired with mushroom risotto. Michelle’s pouring a chillable...
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Owning the Table, Not Just a Seat | Stephanie Houston on Spirits & Legacy
Stephanie Houston is a five-time founder, the first Latina to co-own a distillery in the U.S., and the powerhouse behind Island Getaway Rum. In this episode of Just Getting Better, she shares her journey from Oak Cliff, Texas to the national spirits stage—and the family legacy she never saw…
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Wine & Food Pairing Favorites: Pinot Noir for the Grill, Albariño for Seafood
This week, Michelle and Julia are in their red-and-white wine eras—with two bottles that prove summer sipping doesn’t have to mean Rosé. Julia opens with the Dobbes Family Estate Eola-Amity Hills Pinot Noir, a jammy, chillable red from one of Oregon’s most beloved AVAs. It’s juicy, it’s…
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Why Everything Feels Off Right Now: Burnout, Joy & Resetting
In this episode, we’re talking about everything from wedding drama to that strange emotional fog so many of us are walking through right now. We unpack a word you might not know but definitely feel: hypernormalization—when everything appears fine, but underneath? It’s all a bit off. Sound…
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Why You Don’t Have to Be in a Relationship to Be Worthy | Francesca Hogi on Love & Self-Worth
In this episode, we’re joined by love coach, podcaster, author and former Survivor contestant Francesca Hogi—who brings a fresh, soulful lens to the way we think about love, relationships, and connection in 2025. Francesca shares her journey from corporate lawyer to reality TV to matchmaking and...
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Your Rich BFF Has Entered the Chat
In this episode, we’re joined by Vivian Tu—former Wall Street trader, bestselling author of Rich AF, and the powerhouse behind Your Rich BFF—for a conversation about money, power, and building wealth on your own terms. Vivian shares how growing up as the daughter of Chinese immigrants shaped her...
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Sicilian Dessert Wine & Loire Muscadet
In this week’s episode, Michelle and Julia raise a glass to doing business in a way that actually feels good and honors who we are. While chatting with guest Becky Mollenkamp about what the future of feminist business could look like, they also share two bottles worth adding to your list. With...
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The Future of Feminist Business (It’s Not What You Think!)
What if business was built for us? In this episode, we’re joined by feminist business coach Becky Mollenkamp for a conversation that goes far beyond spreadsheets and branding—and gets to the heart of how women (especially those with multiple marginalized identities) can run businesses on their…
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The 2 Words That Changed How We’re Living This Year
We’re kicking off Season 3 with the two words that are shaping our year: Ubuntu and Savor. In this episode, we talk about slowing down, protecting your joy, and finding rituals that actually work—from phone-free evenings to F1 races and good romance novels. Also:– Michelle’s 30-minute phone...
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Alecia Moore, Part Two: Two Wolves, Wine Stories, and Finding Balance
“The story of the Two Wolves has been with me my entire life. It’s about balance—what we feed today shapes who we are tomorrow. And to me, that’s winemaking, too. It’s all about finding harmony and keeping things alive and interesting.” – Alecia Moore We’re back with Part 2 of our conversation…
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Alecia Moore’s Journey to Two Wolves: Farming, Family, and Fierce Intentionality (Pt.1)
“When you don’t yet know all the rules, anything is possible.” – Alecia Moore Happy New Year friends! We’ve got a very special guest joining the show this week to help us ring in 2025 in a big way. In this bonus episode, we are thrilled to sit down with the multi-talented Alecia Moore, better…
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Tequila Bribón Reposado & Drumshanbo Gunpowder Irish Gin
In our final episode this year, Michelle and Julia reflect on an incredible season filled with empowering conversations, amazing insights from an all-star lineup of guests, and as always, plenty of laughs. From embracing the “soft life” to setting meaningful goals for the year ahead, they dive…
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Embracing the Soft Life: Thank You for an Incredible Season 2
Season 2 flew by, didn’t it? In this special finale, Michelle and Julia reflect on an incredible season filled with empowering conversations, amazing insights from an all-star lineup of guests, and as always, plenty of laughs. From embracing the “soft life” to setting meaningful goals for the…
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Invivo X, SJP Sauvignon Blanc & Pfaffl Vom Haus Grüner Veltliner
Skincare is a reflection of self-care, growth, and continuous improvement—just like the journey of getting better as women. Taking care of your skin is a way to honor yourself and evolve with the seasons. This week, Michelle and Julia were joined by skincare expert and founder of Elo Skin, Lacy...
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Winter Glow Up: Skincare Tips for Every Age & Budget with Lacy Yamaoka
Skincare is a reflection of self-care, growth, and continuous improvement—just like the journey of getting better as women. Taking care of your skin is a way to honor yourself and evolve with the seasons. As Season 2 nears its end, we bring you a very special live episode! Michelle and Julia are...
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Travaglini Gattinara DOCG & Champagne André Jacquart
How do you stay focused and lead with impact when the world around you feels uncertain? Michelle and Julia sit down with Karen Boykin-Towns, President and CEO of Encore Strategies LLC and Vice Chair of the NAACP Board of Directors, for a powerful conversation on leadership, purpose, and...
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Leading With Impact in Uncertain Times: Karen Boykin-Towns
How do you stay focused and lead with impact when the world around you feels uncertain? Michelle and Julia sit down with Karen Boykin-Towns, President and CEO of Encore Strategies LLC and Vice Chair of the NAACP Board of Directors, for a powerful conversation on leadership, purpose, and...
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Picpoul de Pinet & Coste Rubìn Barbaresco DOCG
Amanda Jones, the 2021 National School Librarian of the Year and author of That Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America, joins Michelle and Julia this week to share her journey from advocate to target in the fight against book bans. Amanda shares her harrowing experience of standing…
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Courage Under Fire: Amanda Jones on Fighting Book Bans and Harassment
What happens when you stand up for what you believe in, even when it feels like the world is against you? In this week’s riveting episode, Amanda Jones, the 2021 National School Librarian of the Year and author of That Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America, joins Michelle and Julia...
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Menopause as Reinvention: Dr. Jessica Shepherd
Menopause isn’t the end—it’s the start of a new chapter where we can thrive like never before. – Dr. Jessica Shepherd In this empowering episode, we sit down with Dr. Jessica Shepherd, board-certified OBGYN and author of Generation M: Living Well in Perimenopause and Menopause. Together, we…
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Planeta & Col d’Orcia
Michelle and Julia are joined by the remarkable Sarah Armstrong, Vice President of Global Marketing Operations at Google and author of The Art of the Juggling Act: Bite-sized Guide for Working Parents. With an impressive career spanning roles at Coca-Cola, McKinsey, and now Google, Sarah reflects...
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Lessons From A Global Leader: Sarah Armstrong
“Boundaries take courage, but they’re a muscle you can build.” – Sarah Armstrong Michelle and Julia are joined by the remarkable Sarah Armstrong, Vice President of Global Marketing Operations at Google and author of The Art of the Juggling Act: Bite-sized Guide for Working Parents. With an...
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Daring to Say Yes: Jane Bertch, La Cuisine Paris
Every version of yourself is Every version of yourself is worth exploring. There’s always another branch waiting to be born. exploring. There’s always another branch waiting to be born. – Jane Bertch Michelle and Julia sit down with Jane Bertch, the inspiring founder of La Cuisine Paris and…
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Jane Bertch
Michelle and Julia sit down with Jane Birch, the inspiring founder of La Cuisine Paris and author of The French Ingredient: Making a Life in Paris, One Lesson at a Time. Jane shares her transformative journey from her roots in Chicago to building a successful business in Paris, a city she has...
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What We’re Drinking This Week: Eleanor Allen
We had the incredible opportunity this week to speak with Eleanor Allen, the dynamic founder and CEO of Catapult for Change. Eleanor’s journey from engineering and global leadership to entrepreneurship is filled with invaluable lessons on resilience, authenticity, and leading with purpose. Tune...
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Owning Your Story: Eleanor Allen
In our latest episode, we’re joined by Eleanor Allen, the dynamic founder and CEO of Catapult for Change. Eleanor’s journey from engineering and global leadership to entrepreneurship is filled with invaluable lessons on resilience, authenticity, and leading with purpose. In this episode, we...
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What We’re Drinking This Week
We had the incredible opportunity this week to speak with April Ryan, an esteemed White House correspondent, MSNBC political analyst, and DC Bureau Chief for the GRIO. April shared her insights on the current political climate, reflecting on her extensive experience covering the White House since...
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Strength In Every Chapter: April Ryan
We had the incredible opportunity to speak with April Ryan, an esteemed White House correspondent, MSNBC political analyst, and DC Bureau Chief for the GRIO. April shared her insights on the current political climate, reflecting on her extensive experience covering the White House since the…
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Cheers to new beginnings
Hosts Michelle and Julia kick off season 2 and dive into their summer adventures, favorite reads and a big announcement… The wine writers turned friends reflect on their excitement for the upcoming season, including football, family time, and the return of the podcast after a break. The episode...
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WTF: Julia and Michelle Talk Pop Culture, Current News and Events
In this final episode of Season 1, Julia and Michelle tackle a full range of topics from the Olympics, hot tv shows, politics, skincare trends and as always. the books and wines they’re currently crushing on. EPISODE HOT TOPICS Olympics Viewership Must-See TV The Current State of Politics Tweens,...
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Navigating Intersectionality: Insights on Inclusion and Advocacy with Dr. Akilah Cadet
In this powerful episode, Julia and Michelle sit down with Dr. Akilah Cadet, a renowned leader in organizational development and author of White Supremacy is All Around: Notes from a Black Disabled Woman in a White World. Dr. Cadet shares her insights on navigating life as a Black disabled woman,...
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Empowering Your Health Journey: Dr. Kamilia Smith’s Comprehensive Care Approach
Julia and Michelle dive deep into the topic of women’s health with special guest Dr. Kamilia Smith, the founder and director of Charleston House Gynecology based in Dallas, Texas. The episode kicks off with a candid discussion about personal experiences with menopause, including unexpected…
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Unleash Your Hair Potential: Shaz and Kiks' Game-Changing Beauty Rituals
In this week’s episode of Just Getting Better, Julia and Michelle dive into the world of hair care with special guests Shaz and Kiku, the founders of Shaz and Kiks, a hair wellness brand inspired by Ayurvedic principles. EPISODE THEMES Discovering the Power of Ayurveda Navigating Hair Care During...
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Indivisible: Embracing Authenticity and Challenging Narratives with Denise Hamilton
In this week’s episode, hosts Julia and Michelle had the pleasure of hosting Denise Hamilton, an author, speaker, and consultant, to discuss her new book, “Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences into a Stronger Future.” EPISODE THEMES Breaking Free From Limiting Beliefs Challenging Broken...
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From Self-Talk to Self-Empowerment: Christine D’Ercole’s Journey to Unleashing Inner Power
Julia and Michelle welcome the inspiring and empowering Christine D’Ercole to Just Getting Better this week. EPISODE THEMES Embrace authenticity Rewrite your self-talk narratives Find strength and joy in your journey of self-improvement Christine D’Ercole Christine, an original cycling instructor...
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Just Getting Better: Julia and Michelle's Journey Begins
In this inaugural episode, Julia and Michelle introduce their podcast "Just Getting Better," an intimate and engaging platform for women navigating life and seeking personal growth.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Hosted by acclaimed wine writers and friends, Julia Coney and Michelle Williams, Just Getting Better is more than a podcast; the show is an engaging peek inside the private conversations, questions, and explorations of two fifty-something women—out loud. Think of it like two friends chatting about an array of women’s issues over a bottle of wine.Now, replace the wine with microphones.Whether they’re discussing the latest trends, tackling tough issues, or sharing a good laugh, Just Getting Better aims to create a space where women can feel seen, heard, and inspired.
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