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Kratom Sobriety
by Hosted by A New Leaf Recovery Group
Interviewing people in recovery from kratom abuse or addiction.
Episodes
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E216 Kratom Addiction Guide + podcast hiatus
We are taking a break from producing episodes; if you want to be part of the team that relaunches new shows, email us at [email protected]. Resources Mentioned In This Episode One Page Quitting Guide: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13FlhGi4oVj3iYVTVTIw6zSWfZcuSiJah/view?usp=drive_link...
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E215 Nick H.
Nick is going to AA and KA meetings and taking Suboxone to overcome a long-term kratom powder habit that evolved to the use of extracts and a one-time 7-OH relapse. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS...
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E214 Benjamin's Mom Kelli
Kelli talks about the death of her son from kratom toxicity. Case–control study of mitragynine deaths in Florida: https://academic.oup.com/jat/article-abstract/50/5/bkag017/8524763 “Is it possible to overdose on kratom? Yes,” he (McCurdy) said:...
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E213 J. Paul
Welcome back, Lily, as an interviewer. Our guest this week had a previous addiction to alcohol and started taking kratom powder capsules about 5 years ago. Eventually, he switched over to kava-kratom tonics and began abusing prescription ADHD medications alongside kratom. Quitting with the help…
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E212 Trevor
Sorry for the delay in getting this out this week, latest episode ever dropped time wise on a Sunday. Trevor found kratom 20 years ago. An RN, his kratom use got intense about a decade ago. He did the powder, extract, and 7-OH escalation pathway, and tried many quitting methods. Trevor's has been...
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E211 Rocky
Lauren and Rocky talk about his 10-year kratom addiction, starting with kratom powder, then to liquid extracts, and ending on 7-OH, like so many in 2026. Off all substances since January 2025, Rocky had many restarts along his path, which required a stint in residential rehab and sober living…
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E210 Ron
Ron shares his journey with Lauren, discussing his experience through opioid addiction, alcohol abuse, and kratom dependence over decades, describing how each substance provided temporary relief but ultimately led to secretive, destructive behavior. With his wife's steady support through multiple...
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E209 Kara
Lauren interviews Kara, who shares her journey through years of opioid and heroin addiction, a period of sustained recovery, and an unexpected relapse into kratom use she discovered unknowingly through a drink at a music festival. Kara details the physical and emotional toll of kratom withdrawal,...
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E208 Kratom Crisis Policy Panel
Our quitting interviews this week fell through due to technical and scheduling issues. We will return next week to our normal format of sharing stories of people overcoming kratom addiction. Past guest Hilary (episode #65) is now the executive director of a new organization called End Kratom...
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E207 James D.
Lauren talks to James this week. He struggled silently with kratom for years, escalating from casual use to a dangerous 7OH addiction that nearly destroyed his health, memory, and finances. Sharing his expertise as an addiction RN, James ultimately got sober through Ibogaine treatment…
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E206 Ty
Our guest this week is Ty, who quit kratom in August 2023. He is a podcast editor, producer, and a person in recovery based in Cadiz, Ohio. See below how to get in contact with him, his book, and podcasts. Kratom quitting communities for more support: Kratom Anonymous -...
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E205 Hans
This week Hans shares his quitting story with Lauren. 35 years old working in a high-stress corporate consulting career, Hans is ambitious and fitness-driven. In his late teens and early twenties, he was addicted to opiates, completed a 30-day rehab and has been clean from those drugs for 13…
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E204 Pasha
After many failed cold turkey attempts, Pasha talks about his quit from about 25g per day by tapering; he was inspired to create a new app for quitting at www.kratomcut.com. Available for iPhone users now. TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM...
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E204 Pasha
Pasha talks about his quit from about 35g per day by tapering; he was inspired to create a new app for quitting at www.kratomcut.com. Available for iPhone users now. TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS...
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E203 Steve C.
Lauren returns to interview Steve C., who got addicted to 7-OH after just seven weeks of use. He quit by going to a detox center and doing a one week Suboxone taper from 12mg down to 1mg as an off ramp from the kratom concentrate isolate. NOTE: The main daily meetings for quitting kratom are with...
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E202 Ryan F.
After struggling with alcohol for all his twenties, Ryan discovered kratom right before pandemic started. This began a cycle of trading booze for powder (than later extracts back to booze for seven years, ever able to quit either, both getting progressively worse. Ryan went to a traditional rehab...
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E201 Dr. Ryan Feldman PharmD, DABAT
This week, Charlie interviews Dr. Feldman, who recently wrote a paper about kratom and poison control exposures in the U.S. Dr. Feldman received a Doctorate of Pharmacy and completed two years of post-doctoral residency training focused in emergency medicine and toxicology. After residency he...
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E200 Jessica E.
Lily interviews Jessica E., a 39-year-old Midwest mother initially used kratom to manage chronic back pain. Daily use escalated starting in 2023, leading to severe panic attacks, rage episodes, and full physical dependency at 8–9 grams per day. Unable to quit on her own, her best friend…
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E199 Lauren C. Returns
Lauren from episode 163 celebrates a year off kratom. In her first year of sobriety, the fog of kratom-induced complacency lifted around the five-to-six-month mark, spurring her to launch an Etsy shop, earn a corporate promotion, open her own creative marketing consulting business, pursue...
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E198 Kayla D.
Kayla, a 29-year-old stay-at-home mom diagnosed on the autism spectrum, shares her nearly eight-year struggle with kratom addiction, which began when trusted family members introduced her to the substance as a safe, legal alternative to opioids. Her use escalated from powder capsules to...
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E197 Georgia
Replay from a clip from Recovery in the Middle Ages (RMA) discussing the humor of social media discussions about kratom. Georgia talks about her quitting 7-OH journey with the assistance of medication for opioid use disorder (MOUD). RMA kratom episode:...
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E196 Alex M.
Lily talks with Alex M. from east Texas. Initially using Kratom in 2022 to boost afternoon productivity while juggling church ministry and a web design side hustle as a new father, Alex quickly escalated from one daily dose of powder to taking high-dose mitragynine extract tablets four times a…
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E195 Tyler
Lauren interviews Tyler about his trip to Mexico to use Ibogaine to quit kratom. After many prior attempts to stop in the years before, this treatment helped to reset his brain enough to get on the right track and finally achieve abstinence for just over six months at the date of interview. NOTE:...
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E194 J.P.
J.P. works in the mental health field but struggled with an escalating kratom habit that eventually led to him having to make two out of state trips a week to resupply. Drawing from his experience in alcohol recovery for six years, this week's guest (a 40-something divorced dad of two) relied on…
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E193 Bob
This week's guest Bob from Philly talks with Charlie about his disordered use of kratom extracts escalating to 7-OH over a period of three years. He said it was the only substance he had to go "get more" when it ran out. Bob quit cold turkey with the help of faith and music, and is trying to...
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E192 Aaron L.
Jazz and Lauren discuss seeing new products at random local stores and the importance of community in recovery. Aaron talks about his struggles to quit, which often involved starting and restarting cycles months at a time. He also escalated over the years from powder to 7-OH until he quit around...
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E191 John G. Returns
John G. first appeared on episode 55 in 2024. He relapsed and struggled to get back on track until February 2025. However, he returns celebrating a year now off kratom. WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS...
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E190 Jack
Lily & Rosa in the open discuss Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing (EMDR) as treatment option for those struggling with trauma. Rosa interviews Jack, a 33-year-old miner from Nevada who developed a severe dependence on kava-kratom drinks after struggling with addiction throughout his…
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E189 Tiffany
Lauren and Jacob discuss consequences. PLEASE excuse some audio issues in the open, the original recording got corrupted and we did our best to rescue it. Tiffany shares her harrowing journey from kratom addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as a "plant supplement" for...
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E188 Wayne
Nolan and Lily discuss active versus passive sobriety in the open. #freemartha (lol). Wayne talks about his struggle to get off 7-OH, including two residential treatment stays, and eventual Medication for Opioid Use Disorder (MOUD). New music written and recorded by Lily's husband Peter @ncss on...
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E187 Lauren W.
Lauren W. shares her journey from kratom and 7-OH addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as pain management spiraled into spending hundreds of dollars daily on extracts and tablets. After hitting rock bottom with car accidents, job loss, and a hospital intervention, she…
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E185 Joey Returns with Naltrexone Tips
Lily celebrates three years off kratom in the open! Joey was on episode #9 in June 2023. He returns to discuss relapse prevention, to talk about using naltrexone (both oral and injection to quit) and to warn about the escalation to 7-OH. New music written and recorded by Lily's husband Peter…
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184 Jude
Jude shares her journey from using kratom as an opiate withdrawal aid in 2019 to escalating to 4-5 expensive extract shots daily, culminating in a terrifying over consumption incident at Toronto airport where she could barely walk to her gate. After a relapse following her first quit attempt, she...
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E183 Doreen
Lily interviews Doreen, a long-term listener from the beginning of the podcast. Doreen is coming on three years off kratom and shares her journey to being kratom free. Hers was a path not as harrowing as many, but still a difficult one, nonetheless. Before kratom, she had minimal addiction…
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E182 Greg
** Trigger Warning: discussion of childhood sexual abuse in interview ** Today's guest Greg was sober 18 plus years when he received a free sample of 7-OH at a vape shot. His use escalated, in part because he started buying at wholesale prices and hit a bottom in 10 months. Greg was able to...
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E181 Britton
In the open, Lily and Jacob discuss the pitfall of only using the podcast as your sole source of support (don't do it!). In the interview, Britton, a 40-year-old MRI tech and endurance athlete from Colorado, shares his journey from using kratom, including 7OH at the end, for five years to…
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E180 Elliot Returns
Recently, we've had a trend of welcoming back old guests mostly to celebrate anniversary milestones but in Elliot's case, he is returning to warn about the risk of relapse. After being almost off kratom for three years - June 2022 to March 2025 - Elliot tried 7-OH during a stressful time in his...
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E179 Middle Ground Kratom Regulation
Kratom was banned in Connecticut and Louisiana this year, as well as in scores of cities. Ohio and California, two big states, are taking significant actions to crack down on kratom in 2025. What are the alternatives? This episode explores a middle-ground approach to kratom regulation that…
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E178 Ramey Returns
Jacob and Lily discuss how the hosts let guests tell their story from their point of view, and as a podcast we are not able to vet people before they are interviewed. Ramey celebrates two years off kratom with Natalie. To connect with the meetings discussed in the interview, please visit:...
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E177 Thomas
Episode focused on quitting kratom with a lockbox as a tool. In the interview this week, Gen-Xer Thomas (long-time primarily a powder user with many attempted quits) describes the challenge as: "Addiction lies to you in your own voice". Lockbox links (like always we don't get any commissions if…
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E176 Cornel Stanciu, M.D. discusses 7-OH
Episode focused on 7-OH. Dr. Stanciu's credentials: https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021 Article Charlie & Jazz discuss about 7-OH potency in guinea pig intestines: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167 FDA document Dr. Stancui refers...
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175 Melanie Returns to Celebrate a Year Off 7-OH
Melanie (episode 110 from January 2025) returns to celebrate a year off 7-OH (quit date October 27, 2024). She is one of our first guests to discuss getting addicted specifically to 7-hydroxymitragynine products. Melanie also did not have any previous history of disordered substance use prior to...
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E174 Stewart
Charlie introduces Rosa as a new cohost (episode #54 used the alias Sofia). In the interview, Natalie sits down with Stewart, a husband, father of three, and self-employed handyman from Mesa, Arizona, who is celebrating one year of sobriety from kratom. Stewart shares a candid story of how kratom...
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E173 Matt B. Returns to Discuss "QuitKit"
Jacob and Jazz talk about the growing presence of kratom extract products in stores, concerns about their sale, and efforts to offer healthier alternatives. In this week's interview, Jazz chats with Matt to discuss the progress he has made since his appearance on Episode #98. Matt shares new...
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E172 Kevin's Friend Paloma
Jacob shares holiday sobriety tips in the open. Our guest this week shares the story of her ex-partner Kevin, a talented and magnetic musician whose life was tragically cut short due to kratom toxicity according to death records (no other substances in his system other than a therapeutic level of...
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E 171 Eric O.
In the intro, Lily and Charlie discuss the isolating nature of Kratom addiction and the importance of reaching out to others for support and community. Lily interviews Eric O, who shares his personal journey with kratom addiction and recovery. Eric describes how he first encountered kratom at a...
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E170 Ali
In the intro, Jacob welcomes co-host Natalie (episodes 15 and 132) back to the podcast as they catch up on her life, career as a paramedic, and her perspective on seeing substance use issues in the field. Guest Ali shares her journey from early struggles with alcohol and opiates to years of...
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E169 Katja - Perspective from a Partner
In the open, Charlie and Nolan talk about the YouTuber interview from a couple weeks ago. In the interview, Katja shares with Lily her story of discovering the kava and kratom bar scene while living in Brooklyn and later witnessing her partner’s descent into kratom addiction. She offers a candid...
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E168 Katie Herzog - Naltrexone & The Sinclair Method
This week features an interview Katie Herzog, author of the book "Drink Your Way Sober." Please be aware, you cannot use the Sinclair Method with kratom as it will cause precipitated withdrawals. The discussion explores medicated assisted treatment, harm reduction. the disease model for…
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E167 YouTuber Metta Beshay on Kratom & 7-OH
Nolan interviews Metta Beshay, who posted a video recently named "The Insane World of Kratom & 7-OH" on YouTube. HEADS UP: This guest talks about recent kratom use and is not actively committed to kratom abstinence but shares a range of insights and information about kratom that many listeners…
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Interviewing people in recovery from kratom abuse or addiction.
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