Kratom Sobriety

Lauren from episode 163 celebrates a year off kratom. In her first year of sobriety, the fog of kratom-induced complacency lifted around the five-to-six-month mark, spurring her to launch an Etsy shop, earn a corporate promotion, open her own creative marketing consulting business, pursue psychiatric care for underlying OCD and anxiety, and rebuild more authentic friendships. TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Kayla, a 29-year-old stay-at-home mom diagnosed on the autism spectrum, shares her nearly eight-year struggle with kratom addiction, which began when trusted family members introduced her to the substance as a safe, legal alternative to opioids. Her use escalated from powder capsules to concentrated liquid extracts, costing her around $200 a week, draining her finances, and leaving her emotionally numb and unable to be present for her family. Two frightening episodes of withdrawal seizures during sleep, confirmed by a neurologist as kratom-related, ultimately gave her the push she needed to quit for good on September 19, 2025. TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Replay from a clip from Recovery in the Middle Ages (RMA) discussing the humor of social media discussions about kratom. Georgia talks about her quitting 7-OH journey with the assistance of medication for opioid use disorder (MOUD).  RMA kratom episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nat-x-days-without-incident-001-the-journey-of/id1528859864?i=1000748617656 Novel with kratom as a topic: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/710784/lungfish-by-meghan-gilliss/9781646222056   TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily talks with Alex M. from east Texas. Initially using Kratom in 2022 to boost afternoon productivity while juggling church ministry and a web design side hustle as a new father, Alex quickly escalated from one daily dose of powder to taking high-dose mitragynine extract tablets four times a day over three years. He hid the extent of his use from his wife. His turning point came about a month before a planned Disney World trip, when he realized he couldn't enjoy the "happiest place on earth" without the drug in his system, prompting him to confess to his wife and quit cold turkey. Now approaching a year sober, Alex reflects on how Kratom had numbed his emotions, disconnected him from his family, and caused numerous physical side effects he'd mistaken for aging, each of which resolved after quitting. Alex says reach out if he can be of any help: [email protected]   TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren interviews Tyler about his trip to Mexico to use Ibogaine to quit kratom. After many prior attempts to stop in the years before, this treatment helped to reset his brain enough to get on the right track and finally achieve abstinence for just over six months at the date of interview. NOTE: Ibogaine comes with some risks, and it is important to research these, and to screen the quality and check the references of any provider to ensure safety.   TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

J.P. works in the mental health field but struggled with an escalating kratom habit that eventually led to him having to make two out of state trips a week to resupply. Drawing from his experience in alcohol recovery for six years, this week's guest (a 40-something divorced dad of two) relied on a range of tools and resources to quit kratom a half a year ago.   TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

This week's guest Bob from Philly talks with Charlie about his disordered use of kratom extracts escalating to 7-OH over a period of three years. He said it was the only substance he had to go "get more" when it ran out. Bob quit cold turkey with the help of faith and music, and is trying to retrain his brain to do activities he used to mostly enjoy by loading up on kratom.  Shout out to his auto mechanic buddy - they listen to the podcast every Monday and discuss (thanks!).   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jazz and Lauren discuss seeing new products at random local stores and the importance of community in recovery. Aaron talks about his struggles to quit, which often involved starting and restarting cycles months at a time. He also escalated over the years from powder to 7-OH until he quit around Valentines 2025.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

John G. first appeared on episode 55 in 2024. He relapsed and struggled to get back on track until February 2025. However, he returns celebrating a year now off kratom.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily & Rosa in the open discuss Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing (EMDR) as treatment option for those struggling with trauma. Rosa interviews Jack, a 33-year-old miner from Nevada who developed a severe dependence on kava-kratom drinks after struggling with addiction throughout his life. After years of denial and hiding his use, he quit by telling his loved ones and pushing through an intense six-day withdrawal. Jack now relies on healthier habits like working out and focusing on honesty and accountability.   EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization & Reprocessing) Resources: www.rosawilcoxlcsw.com https://www.emdr.com/ https://www.emdria.org/ https://www.emdr.com/product/getting-past-your-past-take-control-of-your-life-with-self-help-techniques-from-emdr-therapy/ https://youtu.be/Pkfln-ZtWeY?si=l5RnDIbE7k5c46gx   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5   https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren and Jacob discuss consequences.  PLEASE excuse some audio issues in the open, the original recording got corrupted and we did our best to rescue it. Tiffany shares her harrowing journey from kratom addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as a "plant supplement" for anxiety quickly spiraled into round-the-clock dependence and a near-death experience. After enduring multiple detox attempts, inpatient treatment, a custody battle, and job loss, she found freedom through community support, faith, and pure determination. Now running a juice bar and rebuilding her life, Tiffany offers hope to anyone struggling with kratom, proving that recovery is possible and that life on the other side is better than one can imagine.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Nolan and Lily discuss active versus passive sobriety in the open. #freemartha (lol). Wayne talks about his struggle to get off 7-OH, including two residential treatment stays, and eventual Medication for Opioid Use Disorder (MOUD).   New music written and recorded by Lily's husband Peter @ncss on Instagram.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lauren W. shares her journey from kratom and 7-OH addiction to one year of sobriety, detailing how what started as pain management spiraled into spending hundreds of dollars daily on extracts and tablets. After hitting rock bottom with car accidents, job loss, and a hospital intervention, she found recovery through AA meetings, running, and the support of her family and fiancé. New music written and recorded by Lily's husband Peter @ncss on Instagram.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7    QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety        CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily celebrates three years off kratom in the open! Joey was on episode #9 in June 2023. He returns to discuss relapse prevention, to talk about using naltrexone (both oral and injection to quit) and to warn about the escalation to 7-OH. New music written and recorded by Lily's husband Peter @ncss on Instagram.     WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Jude shares her journey from using kratom as an opiate withdrawal aid in 2019 to escalating to 4-5 expensive extract shots daily, culminating in a terrifying over consumption incident at Toronto airport where she could barely walk to her gate. After a relapse following her first quit attempt, she achieved lasting sobriety in May 2025 through a managed taper with Reaction Recovery, discovering that her severe memory problems—which she feared were early-onset dementia—were entirely caused by kratom and have since resolved. Now 8 months sober, she emphasizes that minimizing your story by thinking you're "not sick enough" is a defense mechanism that keeps you trapped.  She and Charlie warn about the escalating danger of new kratom derivatives like 7-OH   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

Lily interviews Doreen, a long-term listener from the beginning of the podcast. Doreen is coming on three years off kratom and shares her journey to being kratom free. Hers was a path not as harrowing as many, but still a difficult one, nonetheless. Before kratom, she had minimal addiction history; only seasonal cigarette smoking in high school that she could easily stop. In January 2022, Doreen underwent a lumbar puncture and desperate for pain relief after medical options failed, someone gave her husband kratom to help. Her use escalated from a teaspoon to tablespoons, multiple times daily. She took it everywhere except work, constantly thinking about her next dose. A spiritual disconnection became her wake-up call. She tried to quit multiple times, experiencing severe withdrawal: inability to sleep, restless leg syndrome, complete loss of joy, depression, and intense crying. She described it as the worst experience of her life, with no relief day or night. Doreen finally quit in February 2023, with her husband staying by her side through the worst of it.  Tragically, the person who originally gave kratom to her husband later died from kratom use, a loss that motivated Doreen to share her story publicly. She now actively warns others about kratom's dangers, having already prevented at least one coworker from trying it. Her message: kratom may seem harmless and natural, but it's addictive and can destroy lives while keeping its grip hidden from those closest to you.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00

** Trigger Warning: discussion of childhood sexual abuse in interview ** Today's guest Greg was sober 18 plus years when he received a free sample of 7-OH at a vape shot. His use escalated, in part because he started buying at wholesale prices and hit a bottom in 10 months. Greg was able to successfully taper off, and it now dedicated to growing KA, a 12-step group focused on kratom: Home | Kratom Anonymous https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

In the open, Lily and Jacob discuss the pitfall of only using the podcast as your sole source of support (don't do it!). In the interview, Britton, a 40-year-old MRI tech and endurance athlete from Colorado, shares his journey from using kratom, including 7OH at the end, for five years to achieving over a year of sobriety through AA's 12-step program. He and Lily explore: * The isolating nature of kratom addiction; * The brutal withdrawal process he endured cold turkey; * A deceptive progression from casual use to physical dependence to disordered consumption with an inability to quit despite a strong desire.    Britton wants to help people - here is his number: 7eight5-2one8-08two4   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Recently, we've had a trend of welcoming back old guests mostly to celebrate anniversary milestones but in Elliot's case, he is returning to warn about the risk of relapse.  After being almost off kratom for three years - June 2022 to March 2025 - Elliot tried 7-OH during a stressful time in his life.  After about 9 months, and getting up to 2,000 mg at a cost of $300 day at his extreme, he is now back on track.  Elliot's first appearance in May 2023: https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e/2-interview-with-elliot/    Checkout the new 12-step group focused on kratom: Home | Kratom Anonymous https://www.kratom-anonymous.org/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Kratom was banned in Connecticut and Louisiana this year, as well as in scores of cities. Ohio and California, two big states, are taking significant actions to crack down on kratom in 2025. What are the alternatives? This episode explores a middle-ground approach to kratom regulation that rejects both total bans and weak, industry-written rules. We introduce six common-sense protections, including point-of-sale education, clear medical warnings, behind-the-counter sales, age verification for online purchases, naloxone availability, and strict limits on high-potency extracts. The goal is to make kratom use safer by offering pre-purchase digital counselling, reducing impulsive purchases, protecting youth, and limiting the most addictive and dangerous products while preserving adult access to lower-risk leaf forms. READ MORE: https://kratomsobriety.com/f/middle-ground-kratom-regulations   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Jacob and Lily discuss how the hosts let guests tell their story from their point of view, and as a podcast we are not able to vet people before they are interviewed. Ramey celebrates two years off kratom with Natalie. To connect with the meetings discussed in the interview, please visit: https://kratomquitters.com/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Episode focused on quitting kratom with a lockbox as a tool. In the interview this week, Gen-Xer Thomas (long-time primarily a powder user with many attempted quits) describes the challenge as: "Addiction lies to you in your own voice".   Lockbox links (like always we don't get any commissions if you buy one): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/style/lockable-box-container.html https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/g35902030/top-time-locking-containers  https://www.thekitchensafe.com/   A rough estimate of Thomas' end of day dose before he quit: Three heaping tablespoons of kratom powder ≈ 18–24 grams. Here is how that breaks down: A) 1 level tablespoon of kratom powder is usually about 5–7 grams B) A heaping tablespoon is typically 6–8 grams C) 3 heaping tablespoons → 6–8 g × 3 = 18–24 g Kratom powder density varies by grind, moisture, and how loosely it is scooped. "Heaping” is very subjective. Some heaps are modest, others are piled high. Volume measures are unreliable for kratom. A digital scale is the only accurate way to know dose. 18–24 grams is considered a very high dose for most people and is well into a range associated with dependence, tolerance escalation, and withdrawal risk.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424  https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Episode focused on 7-OH. Dr. Stanciu's credentials: https://geiselmed.dartmouth.edu/faculty/facultydb/view.php/?uid=7021  Article Charlie & Jazz discuss about 7-OH potency in guinea pig intestines: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320505008167  FDA document Dr. Stancui refers to: https://www.fda.gov/media/187900/download   News article about 7-OH bust from end of open: https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/breaking-bad-on-steroids-palm-bay-brevard-county-florida-drugs-kratom-7-oh-explosives-bust/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Melanie (episode 110 from January 2025) returns to celebrate a year off 7-OH (quit date October 27, 2024). She is one of our first guests to discuss getting addicted specifically to 7-hydroxymitragynine products. Melanie also did not have any previous history of disordered substance use prior to this addiction. In follow-up questions after the interview, she texted Charlie the following responses - Melanie: Got up to spending $75 to $100 per day on 7-OH right before quitting. Took three and half days off of work during her detox. Never had withdrawals from mitragynine extract because she never took those daily.  Getting laid-off from work six months after quitting was not related to her 7-OH addiction, though she did temporarily drink a little more to cope the first month she was unemployed.  Several Statement Clarifications & Sources from Episode A. Charlie refers to 7-OH being “13 times more potent than morphine” The often-cited idea that 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) is “~13 times more potent than morphine” comes from receptor-level and animal data, not direct human dose equivalence. It refers to higher potency at the mu-opioid receptor and stronger analgesic effects in preclinical models.  Source: Obeng S. et al. 7-Hydroxymitragynine Is an Active Metabolite of Mitragynine and a Key Mediator of Its Analgesic Effects. ACS Central Science, 2019. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acscentsci.9b00141 B. Melanie and Charlie talk about 7-OH’s “half-life of 3 hours” Human pharmacokinetic data show that 7-OH has a relatively short half-life (on the order of a few hours, depending on dosing and conditions), so “around three hours” is a reasonable simplification for listeners.  Source: Obeng S. et al. Human Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine Pharmacokinetics after Oral Dosing of a Mitragynine-Rich Kratom Extract. Molecules, 2024; 29(5):984. https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/29/5/984 C. Melanie says “it’s basically like heroin / legal heroin” This reflects Melanie’s personal subjective experience with high-potency 7-OH extract products. While 7-OH acts on opioid receptors and can cause dependence and withdrawal, kratom alkaloids differ from heroin in chemical structure, potency, and overdose profile.  Source: Gorelick DA. Kratom: Substance of Abuse or Therapeutic Plant? Psychiatric Clinics of North America, 2022; 45(3):415–430. https://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X(22)00027-2/fulltext D. Charlie and Melanie discuss “synthetic kratom” Kratom leaves naturally contain mitragynine, and after drying and oxidation, trace amounts of 7-OH. Many 7-OH products contain synthetic or semi-synthetic analogs not found in the plant. These products can be far stronger than traditional kratom powder and carry different risks. Source: Prevete E. et al. A Preliminary Inventory of Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) Products and Vendors on the Darknet and Cryptomarkets. Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, 2024; 56(4):485–495. https://doi.org/10.1080/02791072.2023.2242361  E. Charlie compares 7-OH as “the cocaine of coca” This analogy is meant to illustrate the difference between a traditional plant product and its purified, concentrated alkaloid such as 7-OH. Coca leaves contain low levels of cocaine alkaloids and have historically been used in relatively mild ways, while cocaine is a chemically isolated, highly potent derivative. By analogy, ultra-potent 7-OH kratom extracts/synthetics are to kratom leaf what cocaine is to coca leaf: a conceptual comparison, not a direct pharmacological equivalence.  Source: Naranjo PL. Social Function of Coca in Pre-Columbian America. Journal of Ethnopharmacology, 1981; 3(2–3):161–172. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0378874181900520   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Charlie introduces Rosa as a new cohost (episode #54 used the alias Sofia). In the interview, Natalie sits down with Stewart, a husband, father of three, and self-employed handyman from Mesa, Arizona, who is celebrating one year of sobriety from kratom. Stewart shares a candid story of how kratom entered his life, how his use escalated, and the impact it had on his health, family, and sense of purpose. He got up to 80 grams per day, tapered down, and used a faith-based 12-step program and help of his family to quit kratom. The online kratom-specific recovery community Stewart and Natalie discuss: Quitting Kratom Support https://kratomquitters.com    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Jacob and Jazz talk about the growing presence of kratom extract products in stores, concerns about their sale, and efforts to offer healthier alternatives. In this week's interview, Jazz chats with Matt to discuss the progress he has made since his appearance on Episode #98. Matt shares new insights from his recovery journey and explains how his QuitKit product has become a valuable resource not only for himself, but also for others seeking support.  Discount Code: KSP-15 for QuitKit Try Quit Kit – Backed by Science, Built for You https://tryquitkit.com/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

Jacob shares holiday sobriety tips in the open. Our guest this week shares the story of her ex-partner Kevin, a talented and magnetic musician whose life was tragically cut short due to kratom toxicity according to death records (no other substances in his system other than a therapeutic level of Wellbutrin and no pre-existing health conditions at the time of his passing). Through the perspective of his former partner Paloma, the conversation explores the progression of his disordered use, the challenges of withdrawal, the lack of societal awareness, and the emotional toll on loved ones. The episode ultimately calls for empathy, greater awareness, and more responsible regulation, emphasizing that addiction can affect anyone and that hope and support are essential for recovery.   Scientists Identified the Lethal Dose of Mitragynine in Kratom for Mice: https://www.inverse.com/article/51089-can-you-overdose-on-kratom    Kevin's Obituary: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/kevin-oliveira-obituary?id=58342246   Vipassana Centers | Vipassana Research Institute: https://www.vridhamma.org/Vipassana-Centers    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

In the intro, Lily and Charlie discuss the isolating nature of Kratom addiction and the importance of reaching out to others for support and community. Lily interviews Eric O, who shares his personal journey with kratom addiction and recovery. Eric describes how he first encountered kratom at a kava bar, initially using it socially and later as a way to manage pain and stress. Over time, his use escalated, leading to financial troubles, strained relationships, and significant health issues. With the support of his wife and family, Eric went through the challenges of withdrawal and relapse, ultimately achieving nine months of sobriety at the time of the interview. He emphasizes the importance of support systems, honesty, and avoiding triggers, and hopes his story will help others struggling with similar addictions.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00  

In the intro, Jacob welcomes co-host Natalie (episodes 15 and 132) back to the podcast as they catch up on her life, career as a paramedic, and her perspective on seeing substance use issues in the field. Guest Ali shares her journey from early struggles with alcohol and opiates to years of dependence on kratom and the challenges of withdrawal. She opens up about the turning points that led her to seek help, including loss, motherhood, and finding faith. Finally, she reflects on her 18 months of sobriety, the power of community, and the hope that comes with rebuilding a life free from kratom. Link to the quitting kratom community Ali and Natalie are part of: Support for Kratom Addiction Recovery Meetings and Resources https://kratomquitters.com/   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

In the open, Charlie and Nolan talk about the YouTuber interview from a couple weeks ago. In the interview, Katja shares with Lily her story of discovering the kava and kratom bar scene while living in Brooklyn and later witnessing her partner’s descent into kratom addiction. She offers a candid look at how extract products, financial strain, and secrecy turned their lives upside down and how she found stability through Al-Anon and community support. Her reflections give loved ones and those quitting kratom a grounded view of addiction, recovery, and hope.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7     QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com       CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety       https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety       https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety      https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety       https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety   https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social   https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety         CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]       https://kratomsobriety.com        PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424      https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5        https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00     

This week features an interview Katie Herzog, author of the book "Drink Your Way Sober." Please be aware, you cannot use the Sinclair Method with kratom as it will cause precipitated withdrawals. The discussion explores medicated assisted treatment, harm reduction. the disease model for addiction, and a range of other topics. Drink Your Way Sober https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7     QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com       CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety       https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety       https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety      https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety       https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety   https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social   https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety         CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]       https://kratomsobriety.com        PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424      https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5        https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00     

Nolan interviews Metta Beshay, who posted a video recently named "The Insane World of Kratom & 7-OH" on YouTube.  HEADS UP: This guest talks about recent kratom use and is not actively committed to kratom abstinence but shares a range of insights and information about kratom that many listeners may find interesting and/or helpful. Metta's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/Pqx_bMGeGwc?si=6X8x6P-9-D3MyApvm   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

In the open, Nolan and Lily give tips on tapering. Nolan's quitting kratom book: https://a.co/d/b1cgJUJ   In the interview, David Hudnall, a journalist from the Kansas City Star, discusses his investigative reporting on 7-OH (7-hydroxymitragynine). The discussion covers the rapid rise of 7-OH in the U.S. market, particularly in Kansas City, and how is overtaking traditional kratom products in smoke shops and gas stations. The conversation highlights personal stories of addiction, the aggressive marketing tactics used by companies (such as free samples and loyalty programs), and the blurred lines between kratom and 7-OH in the marketplace.   7-OH and American Shaman - Part One ‘It’s addictive, and it’s everywhere’: KC company’s pills hook users across US” By David Hudnall September 18, 2025  https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311991573.html     7-OH and American Shaman - Part Two From loans to hemp to smoke-shop opioids, KC businessman pushes legal limits By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025  https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311969568.html     7-OH and American Shaman - Part Three ‘Sinister industry’: Kansas City company behind 7-OH & a growing opioid epidemic By David Hudnall Updated September 18, 2025 https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article311767920.html     Inside The Star How we reported on American Shaman, Vince Sanders & the debate around 7-OH By David Hudnall Updated September 17, 2025 11:08 AM https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/inside-the-star/article312119075.html    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Jacob and Lily talk getting into hobbies during recovery. In the interview, Justine shares her quitting kratom journey. She turned to kratom to manage pain and escalated into a serious health crisis that resulted in a lengthy hospitalization. Justine warns about the dangers of unregulated substances and encourages others to seek help and not try to quit alone.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

In this week's interview with Tori, an addiction professional in recovery, the growing presence of kratom in treatment settings is explored. She shares insights on client demographics, withdrawal symptoms, misconceptions about safety, and the importance of harm reduction and education, while also reflecting on her personal recovery journey and commitment to helping others.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Charlie and Jacob speculate about what is in the kava-kratom tonics to make them more addictive for so many people. Lauren shares her journey with Jacob of nearly five years of daily kratom use that escalated from capsules to extracts, ending in secrecy, shame, and worsening depression. With the support of her therapist and doctor, she tapered off and quit on April 10, 2025, and now celebrates five months free, emphasizing mindset, community, and confidence in sober living.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7      QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com        CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety        https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety        https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety       https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety        https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety    https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety          CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]        https://kratomsobriety.com         PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424       https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5         https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Lily's interview with Mckenzie’s followers her journey with kratom, beginning with an initial exposure through wellness marketing and the rapid progression from casual use to daily dependence. After repeated withdrawal attempts, the toll on her mental and physical health was immense, and ultimately finding recovery through a five-week holistic treatment program in Sedona. The discussion also explores her shift in perspective on wellness, authenticity, creativity, and ongoing recovery practices, offering insight and encouragement to others facing similar struggles. Guest's Substack:   Words from Wisdom | Kenzie Wisdom | Substack https://mckenziewisdom.substack.com/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7  QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com    CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety      CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com     PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00      

Guest host Jazz (episode #41) talks with returning expert Dr. Casey Grover, an addiction medicine physician with both clinical expertise and lived experience of PTSD. Together, they explore the frequent intersection of trauma and addiction, breaking down how adverse childhood experiences, big “T” and little “t” traumas, and even intergenerational stress shape vulnerability to substance use. Dr. Grover discusses diagnostic criteria for PTSD, explains treatment approaches ranging from medications like prazosin and SSRIs to EMDR therapy and stellate ganglion blocks, and weighs in on newer options such as psychedelic-assisted therapy. The conversation also highlights the stigma around mental health in the medical community, the importance of trauma-informed care, and the healing potential of honesty and vulnerability.  Resource links from episode: Grover, Casey MD. Goodbye Emergency Medicine—I Wish I Could Say Thanks for the Memories. Emergency Medicine News 47(2):p 22, March 2025.  DOI: 10.1097/01.EEM.0001108624.36353.82  https://journals.lww.com/em-news/fulltext/2025/03000/goodbye_emergency_medicine_i_wish_i_could_say.14.aspx DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for PTSD: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207191/ Addiction Medicine Made Easy (Dr. Grover’s podcast) https://addictionmedicinemadeeasy.com MDCalc – Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Calculator https://www.mdcalc.com Last Day Podcast – Episode with Dr. Gabor Maté https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/addiction-17-trauma-with-dr-gabor-mat%C3%A9/id1468896686?i=1000488387968  Book: What Happened to You? (Oprah & Bruce Perry) https://www.oprahdaily.com/what-happened-to-you Book: The Body Keeps the Score (Bessel van der Kolk) https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-score GeneSight – Pharmacogenomic Testing https://genesight.com Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR Therapy) https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy Stellate Ganglion Block (SGB) for PTSD – Information https://www.stellateinstitute.com/sgb-for-ptsd   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7  QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com    CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety      CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com     PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00      

Lily & Charlie discuss - Is the last thing you quit the hardest? John, an engineer and outdoor enthusiast, recounts his decade-long struggle with kratom addiction that began as an alternative to pain pills, leading to escalating use (from 120 grams per day in the early 2010s to 7oh isolates in 2025), financial ruin, and the loss of a significant relationship. After multiple failed attempts to quit (including a relapse after 2 years kratom free), he ultimately finds success through a combination of medication, family support and cold plunges, and now shares his story to help others facing similar challenges.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7  QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com    CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety      CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com     PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00      

In the open, Charlie and Nolan discuss the fed's proposed 7OH ban. Jacob talks to interview guest Alyse about her journey from discovering kratom during bodybuilding training to struggling with addiction, multiple relapses, and ultimately seeking recovery through detox, medically assisted treatment, and support systems. While at time of this broadcast, she is kratom free for a couple months now, she is on a wait list to go to 30-day residential rehab to invest in long term abstinence from the green kava-kratom drinks, an addiction that caused her to lose a job and major strains on important relationships. To get in touch with this week's guest: https://www.tiktok.com/@alyse.heun   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7  QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com    CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety      https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety      https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety     https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety      https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety  https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social  https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety      CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]      https://kratomsobriety.com     PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424     https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5      https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Jacob and Nolan open on how addiction is a lifetime journey thought not a permanent ongoing struggle. In the interview, Jonny became addicted to 7-OH in both liquid and tablet versions, which led to rapid tolerance and severe dependence. He ultimately quit after a car accident by entering a treatment facility, where he used Suboxone to help with withdrawal and later the Sublocade injection as part of his treatment plan, combined with structured recovery housing, community support, and daily routines like yoga and AA meetings. RPT model discussed by Johnny: "Relapse Prevention Therapy" (RPT) based on research by Terence Gorsky: The Dynamics of Relapse: Cunning, Baffling and Predictable – RecoveryView – Behavioral Health Community https://recoveryview.com/article/the-dynamics-of-relapse-cunning-baffling-and-predictable/   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com   CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com    PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00   

Lily and Jacob explore the potential of cannabis becoming a substitute or cross addiction to kratom. Ryan talks to Lily about his struggles this past year relapsing on kava-kratom tonics, and escalating to other substances such as alcohol and opiates.  Heads up, this episode's interview includes talk of suicide. Remember to dial 988 to talk get help, or text HOME to 741-741 to reach the Crisis Text Line or www.Crisistextline.org   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com   CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com    PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00   

Charlie and Jacob catch up and discuss how easy access to kratom can influence use.  Violet discusses with Lily her journey through Kratom addiction and withdrawal, highlighting its impact on her active lifestyle as an onsite seamstress and stylist for weddings, as well as her experiences with Ecstatic Dance and sobriety. She shares insights on the effects of Kratom on her daily routines, the vital role of support systems in recovery, and her personal history with addiction, including the influence of her community and her various coping mechanisms during recovery.   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com   CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com    PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 

Lily and Nolan open to discuss methods to improve well-being after quitting, emphasizing the importance of slowing down and staying present, including a focus on withdrawals and tapping into ideas found in yoga. In the interview, Jacob sits down with Seth, who shares his journey of overcoming kratom addiction. Seth talks about emotional challenges and his experiences with treatment centers, as well as his ultimate decision to use buprenorphine and its impact on his recovery. They also touch upon the importance of a support system, Seth's hobbies, and his advice for others battling addiction.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com   CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com    PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 

In the intro, Jacob talks about the importance of a positivity mindset. In the interview, Lily chats with James K., a professional cameraman from San Diego. He initially believed kratom to be a natural remedy, but it led to severe addiction alongside struggles with alcohol, marijuana, and opiates. He found kratom to involve intense withdrawals and found therapy and a healthy lifestyle key in sustaining his recovery. WHATSAPP Group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/E5Mgjff4TLBENsqIBL3U4o QK Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/16ZF1nAw7U/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7 QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com   CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com    PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00 

Lily and Nolan talk about sleep issues in the weeks after you quit kratom. NOTE: Jen and Matt are living in FEMA temporary housing post a Florida disaster and have a pop-up emergency internet connection, which caused audio issues in the interview recording. We did the best we could to improve the quality but there are several spots were the guests fade out a little, so please accept our apologies. This week, a couple discuss their quitting journey with Jacob. Born in the 1960s, Matt and Jen both turned to kratom to get off of stronger prescription and street drugs. About 13 years ago, Matt ALMOST (this was one of the audio snafus) lost his leg during a surgery and was prescribed fentanyl patches for pain. Later using kratom as a ramp off and a substitute to such pharmaceuticals, Matt was up to 60g of powder a day and then switched to extracts as he could not stomach kratom powder anymore. After many relapses trying to quit kratom and other drugs, they both decided to try Medicated Assisted Treatment (MAT) in January 2023. Matt plans to taper off buprenorphine with the injectable option known as Sublocade this year. Despite many tough times, including the losses of a pet, car and home, they successfully interrupted their kratom addiction, and have not become dependent again over the last couple years. Matt warns against the use of 7ohm based on a week of him turning to this kratom alkaloid isolate product when he was out-of-town without buprenorphine.    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7   QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com     CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Lily and Jacob open discussing the dubiousness of kratom product marketing.  In the interview, Dylan has been off kratom since August 2024, after almost an average 20g per day habit over almost a decade. Despite lingering PAWS, Dylan's life has become much richer since quitting.     WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7   QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com     CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Nolan interviews expert guest Eli Cohen, a personal injury attorney at the Wetherington Law Firm in Atlanta, Georgia. Eli specializes in product liability and kratom-related wrongful death cases. A former SWAT officer and current Army Reserve intelligence officer, he brings over 17 years of combined legal and law enforcement experience to his advocacy for consumer safety. In this episode, Eli discusses the lack of federal regulation around kratom, the misleading use of “not for human consumption” labeling, and the legal strategies used to hold manufacturers accountable for harm.  He offers his cell number at 470-880-8222.  https://wfirm.com/attorney/eli-cohen/    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7   QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com     CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Nolan and Libby in the open discuss the subtle things we gain back after quitting kratom. Jasmine aka Jazzy celebrates a year off kratom with us in the interview. Find more support at www.kratomquitters.com   Closing music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x65DQgGbqIc    WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7   QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com     CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00    

Lily speaks with Jacob about joining as a co-host along with our other hosts. Charlie interviews Kristen and her journey through several relapses and failed attempts at using MAT to quit kratom. Serving kratom at her wedding, Kristen found herself going through withdrawals for the first time during her honeymoon. But it took a while for her to get to the three-month mark kratom free, and she now has a path forward to maintain both kratom and alcohol abstinence.    When Your “Alcohol Alternative” Brings You Back to Drinking – SweenXiety https://sweenxiety.com/2025/05/27/when-your-alcohol-alternative-brings-you-back-to-drinking/   WANT TO TELL YOUR STORY ON THE PODCAST? https://forms.gle/VWrjhLSTPHqJyVhw7   QUITTING KRATOM SUPPORT MEETINGS https://www.kratommeetings.com     CONNECT WITH US https://www.instagram.com/kratomsobriety     https://twitter.com/kratomsobriety     https://www.tiktok.com/@krat0ms0briety    https://www.youtube.com/@KratomSobriety     https://www.facebook.com/kratomsobriety https://bsky.app/profile/kratomsobriety.bsky.social https://www.threads.net/@kratomsobriety     CONTACT THE SHOW Voice: 313-437-7720 Email: [email protected]     https://kratomsobriety.com       PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kratom-addiction/id1685569424    https://www.audible.com/podcast/Kratom-Addiction/B0C3YHDLV5     https://open.spotify.com/show/4GkQiYu6S8IBn8qswyVm00