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Living in the Matrix
by Jonathan Brink & Rich Goulette
Living in the Matrix is a conversation between two long-time friends and curious souls about what it means to live in the world that is often on fire. We seek out and find individuals who are challenging the status quo. We're constantly asking, How do we grow as human beings and push aside the prison that is conformity and certainty. How can we as human beings be more compassionate, loving and courageous. Rich and Jonathan discuss anything that pushes us out of our comfort zones, and tackle it with courage and curiosity. No question is too sensitive to ask. Our hope is to highlight ideas that can change the world for the better. We discuss politics, science, business, spirituality, and relationships. We might not always agree, and we are always willing to learn and have a lot of fun. *We use adult language at times.
Episodes
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E67 - The Wholeness Doctor
In this episode, Jonathan interviews Dr. Jennifer Van Allen, the wholeness doctor. We explore so many amazing ideas that inform how our body's nervous system responds to fear and chaos. Dr Van Allen share a deep understanding of what is happening in the body and how we create our own problems...
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E66 - Tender Revolution (Rev Briana Lynn)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Rev. Briana Lynn. Briana shares her insights on what it means to be a tender revolutionary in today's deeply fractured world. We touch on different aspects of what it means to be tender and a revolutionary at the same time. Briana bring her wisdom to...
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E65 - Christ Consciousness (Cleburn Walker)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich bring back Cleburn Walker. He shares his epic breathing technique for creating Christ consciousness in the body. Cleburn is always one of the most fascinating interviews. Just listening to him speak is a treasure. We dive deep into the idea of Christ…
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E64 - Ayahuasca Journey (Bayle and Annie)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Bayle and Annie, the leaders of Aya Soul Tribe. Bayle and Annie were our medicine shamans during our first Ayahuasca ceremony. We dig deep into the process, their leadership experiences, and how they create a space of deep intention and compassion...
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E63 - Visiting Mama Aya (with Dave Lloyd)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich their friend Dave Lloyd, share a personal experience with an Ayahuasca retreat the previous weekend in Joshua Tree. This was one of the most profound experiences they have all ever been on, and it was deeply healing, transformative, and communal. Each of them...
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E62 - Audience Retrospective (Joel Frederick)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Joel Frederick, a long-time listener of the podcast. Joel shares his journey of deconstructing, why he loves the show, and insights into what it means to grow as a human being in a journey of deconstruction.
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E61 - Deconstructing Religion (Ariele Lanning)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Ariele Lanning, a deconstruction coach who helps people work through religious trauma. Ariele has an incredible story of overcoming her own religious trauma, and now helps other people learn how to process it and let it go. Ariele's insight into how...
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E60 - Biden, AI & Work, and Sobriety
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich take on three topics. The downfall of Biden's health and confidence, AI and work, and sobriety. What a fun episode..
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E59 - Overcoming Adversity (ft Chris King)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Chris King, a transformational coach, who works with clients to get unstuck. We explore Chris's ideas on overcoming adversity, and how to engage a sense of responsibility for our own perception. His work creates transformational experiences that…
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E58 - Beyond the Ice Bath ( Dr Karima Joy)
In this episode, Jonathan interviews Karima Joy, PhD, a therapist, social worker and grief counselor. She works with people through the process of grief, which is incredibly hard to do. We explore her recent article in Psychology Today, and what it means to be a man working through issues and how...
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E57 - Generational Trauma (Joey Labossiere)
In this episode, Jonathan interviews Joey Labossiere, a clinical hypnotherapist, guide and activator. Joey shares his experience with overcoming generational trauma, and how we can literally heal wounds from not just our past but our ancestors. We dive into Joey's story of learning how he…
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E56 - Understanding Trauma (Dr. Adam David Dell)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Dr Adam David Dell is a certified clinical psychologist and trauma expert. From 2020-2024, he served as Director of Emotional Wellbeing at the Notre Dame Wellness Center with Premise Health. Throughout the episode, Dr Dell shares his wisdom on the...
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E55 - Overcoming Prison (Wayne Boatwirght)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Wayne Boatwright, who was engaged in a violent crash that took the life of another human being. Wayne shares his journey on living with the reality of the tragic incident and the treacherous life of overcoming prison. He shares the dark nature of the...
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E54 - Topics: God, Woke, & The Unified Field
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich discuss several topics that are hot in the current sphere of life. We first take on the idea that several notable influencers and celebrities have been turning back towards God in their life. We explore why this might be happening and what it means. We also…
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E53 - Healing Modalities (Dr. David Wardy)
In this fascinating episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Dr. David Wardy of Wardy Wellness. David is a healing practitioner who went beyond the traditional healing modalities and discovered a more powerful way to work with the body, it's signals and use them to move effectively into healing.…
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E52 - Hope in the Chaos (Brian McLaren)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview best selling author Brian McLaren, who shares his humble wisdom on how to respond effectively to climate change. This isn't just a scientific treatise. Brian shares how to address an issue that most feel powerless to solve. His pastoral advice…
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E51 - The Intentional CEO (Kevin Akeroyd)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Kevin Akeroyd, CEO of Sovos, Kevin is a brilliant thinker strategist and human. He's risen from poverty to become a CEO of multiple companies, and even taking a company public. We explore seven ethics that are central to becoming a CEO, and how someone...
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E50 - 3 Cool Topics
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich discuss three ideas from Instagram reels that are blowing up. Topic 1: We explore the current political divide that separates people into groups. What happens when we stop doing that. People want to be unified. How do we get there? Topic 2: We explore a funny...
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E49 - Crypto Curiosity (ft Whitney Woodcock)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Whitney Woodcock again. Whitney brings her deep insight and wisdom into the world of cryptocurrency, and how to navigate all the scams, issues, and history. We explore what money is, how it works in the world, and how cryptocurrency changes things...
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E48 - Losing Weight By Eating (ft Audrey Johns)
In this incredible episode, Jonathan and Rich interview noted weight loss expert Audrey Johns. Audrey is a 4x best selling author and guest on Rachel Rays cooking show. She brings her wealth of wisdom to the table to share how she lost 150 lbs in one year and kept it off by eating good quality...
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E47 - The Jeet Kune Do of Meditation (ft Cyrus)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Cyrus, aka The Mental Level. Cyrus is a practitioner of a simple form of meditation, which he calls the Jeet Kune Do of meditation. And the beauty is anyone can do it. We explore his technique, how simple it is, and even walk through practice to...
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E46 - Outside the Matrix (Christopher Nelson)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Christopher Nelson, 3x IPO tech executive and curator of Tech Careers and Money News. We talk about the journey of maximizing our career opportunities by elevating our own value as an employee. We discuss strategies for how to dramatically improve your...
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E45 - The Matrix Detox (LIndsay Carricarte)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich deep dive into the Matrix with Lindsay Carricarte. This was one of the best conversations we've ever had. Lindsay helps define what the Matrix is, how to see it, understand it, and even escape it. The conversation touched on so many amazing stuff around mental...
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E44 - The Doctor Is In (Dr Sean Patterson)
In this episode, Jonathan interviews Dr. Sean Patterson. Sean returns to share his story of helping people lose weight, which is one of the main problems of stress. We dive into Sean's story of losing 60 pounds and how losing weight can affect us physically, spiritually, emotionally, and…
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E43 - A Symphony of Grace (David Congdon)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview David Congdon, author of Varieties of Christian Universalism: Exploring Four Views, Baker Academic, 2023. We explore the idea the different perspective in Christian Universalism, which is the idea that everyone is included in the Kingdom of God after...
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E42 - Innovative Compassion (Nick Smoot)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich site down with Nick Smoot, CEO of Aesop Industries. He is a social architect running an experiment to repair community and capitalism. He's bringing communities together to create radical and systemic change within communities organically and with the…
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E41 - The Magic of We (Sean Clayton)
In this episode, we sit down with Sean Clayton again to work through some of Sean's work over the year. Sean is a deep practitioner of energy and how it works. We discuss convergence, and how change is now happening rapidly. We explore a range of topics from what is 3D, 4D, and 5D consciousness,...
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E40 - The Heart of Work (Lori Wallace)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Work-Life Doula, Lori Wallace. Lori is Founder and CEO of Career Ecology. Her passion for helping people grow their career is exceptional. We explore the important work of bringing the heart into work and capitalism. We cover career transitions,...
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E39 - Death of the Ego (Brett Barlow)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Brett Barlow, a survivor of a near death experience. Brett's story is an amazing experience of what if feels like to lose your ego. He recounts his harrowing moment of drowning in front of his family, and being consciously aware of what was...
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E38 - Healthcare Alt (Nate Taylor)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Nate Taylor, CEO of Keyspan, a company analyzes your health data, and gives you personalized solutions to reach your goals. Nate took on conventional healthcare and created a solution that helps people move past maintenance of sickness to…
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E37 - Shadow Work (Cleburn Walker)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich invited Cleburn Walker to come back and continue the conversation. We explore the concepts of shadow work, what it means, how it works, and why it's important. Rich dives into the Jedi, and how Luke was the Prodigal son coming home. We also dive deep into the…
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E37 - The Matrix Game (Cleburn Walker)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Cleburn Walker to discuss how the we live in a game similar to the Matrix. How we play the game is a really important aspect of life. Cleburn breaks down the game and how theology and quantum physics work together. The Matrix in theology is a word...
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E36 - The Lonely Stoner (Andrew Ferris)
in this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview the Lonely Stoner, also known as Andrew Ferris. Andrew is a podcaster and influencer and hosts The Lonely Stoner show on YouTube. He documents his life of not being satisfied with the status quo in the Mormon faith. after leaving organized religion, he...
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E35 - The Inclusive Pastor (Jason Coker)
In this fascinating episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Jason Coker, co-pastor of Oceanside Sanctuary, an openly inclusive Christian fellowship in Oceanside California. In this episode, Jason shares what it's like to pastor an inclusive church that welcomes LGBTQ+ persons into the fellowship...
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E34 - Feminine Energy (ft Tracy Litt)
In this episode of Living in the Matrix, Jonathan interviews Tracy Litt, a women's spiritual advisor and mindset coach to visionary women leaders and entrepreneurs, a highly sought-after keynote speaker, TEDx speaker, and international best-selling author of Worthy Human. We discuss the power of...
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E33 - The Way of the DAO (ft San Qing)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview San Qing, an ordained Daoist priest of a long lineage of ancient Daoist practices. He is also the inventor of the app TheWay126, which uses a visual audio experience to create a visual kinesthetic experience. His app promises to shift you into gamma...
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E32 - Fruitarianism (ft Dr. Robert Morse)
In this episode, we interview controversial Dr Robert Morse, who is a proponent of fruitarianism, which is a diet that consists primarily of consuming fruits and possibly nuts and seeds, but without any animal products. Dr Morse breaks down the value of fruit on the lymphatic system to create an...
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E31 - Near Death Experience (ft: Virginia Drake)
In this fascinating episode, Jonathan and Rich sit down with Virginia Drake, who experienced a near death experience that allowed her to learn how to travel remotely anywhere she wants to go, and meet anyone she wants to meet in the supernatural realm. We dive deep into her story of how she died,...
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E30: DD Dishes Conspiracy Theories
In our 30 episode and most political episode to date, Jonathan and Rich take on a complex topic: Conspiracy Theories. They interview DD, an avowed conspiracy theorist who shares a wild but compelling story of how the United States will radically change in the coming months. He shares a New…
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E29 - Transgender Freedom and Responsibility
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich explore the social dynamic of transgenderism. We dive deep into how it is affecting culture, changing norms, and dramatically changing the social dialog. We look into the importance of freedom for anyone to undergo a transition, and how it also comes with a...
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E28 - Emotional Intelligence (Nicky Scorpio)
In this fascinating episode, Jonathan interviews Nicky Scorpio, an influencer on TikTok, a musician, artist, and advocate for emotional intelligence. Nicky has one of the most unique stories around. After growing up with two lesbian mom's Nicky used curiosity to heal his life by discovering the...
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E27 - Overcoming Obstacles
In this episode, Jonathan explores the concept of overcoming obstacles. It's one of the most important actions we can take as a human being to restore our mental health. But how do we overcome obstacles? Jonathan shares 3 stories in his life about hitting the proverbial wall and wanting to give…
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E26 - Trust Me (Joseph Myers)
In this incredible episode, Jonathan interviews Joseph Myers, author of Trust Me: Discovering Trust in a Culture of Distrust. (MeTEOR). Drawing from personal experiences and cutting-edge research, this captivating exploration reveals a groundbreaking truth: trust and distrust are separate…
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E25 - Reconstructing Life - (Ellie Lee)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Ellie Lee, an actress/TV host for VH1, MTV, iHeartRadio, and was seen on E!, Wendy Williams, and The Steve Harvey Show. Ellie is now a mystical life coach for Self University. In this episode, Ellie shares her journey out of self-hatred to into the...
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E24 - Deconstructing Faith (Brittney Hartley)
In this fascinating episode, Jonathan and Rich interview religious trauma and deconstruction coach, Brittney Hartley. We explore her journey out of the Mormon faith, he descent into atheism and nihilism, and what it means to deconstruct from religious faith. Her path is not traditional, but her...
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E23 - Redeeming God From Hell (Andrew Hronich)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich interview Andrew Hronich, author of Once Loved Always Loved: The Logic of Apokatastasis, (Wipf and Stock). We explore both the illogical nature of the concept of hell, and the traditional view of eternal conscious torment, or that humanity is destine for hell as…
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E22 - I Can Do Hard Things (ft Katherine McLean)
In this powerful episode, Jonathan interviews holistic counsellor, coach & mentor Katherine McLean, who dealt with childhood family violence an turned to traditional means of coping by abusing alcohol and drugs. She began the long, slow journey of rebuild her life and overcoming her own…
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E21 - Mental Health (Dr. Chris Lee)
In one of the most incredible episodes we've ever done, Dr. Chris Lee, a neuroscientist and startup consultant, breaks down the process of how we think, overthink, and even get locked in a state of a joyless life. Chris shares his story of losing everything only to discover there is life on the...
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E20 - Hacking the Matrix (Biohacking)
In this episode, Jonathan and Rich discuss some of the biohacking practices they have both been using. These include intermittent fasting, cold baths, grounding, hopping, supplements, protein shakes, and more. The process of hacking is possible because our brains adapt to what we create as a…
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E19 - Beginning to Believe (Reflection)
In this 19th episode, Jonathan and Rich reflect on the podcast journey so far. It's been a wonderful opportunity to connect to beautiful souls on a journey towards overcoming. We explore where we've been, what really stood out, and how it affected us along the way. No shocker, it was a lot. And…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Living in the Matrix is a conversation between two long-time friends and curious souls about what it means to live in the world that is often on fire. We seek out and find individuals who are challenging the status quo. We're constantly asking, How do we grow as human beings and push aside the prison that is conformity and certainty. How can we as human beings be more compassionate, loving and courageous. Rich and Jonathan discuss anything that pushes us out of our comfort zones, and tackle it with courage and curiosity. No question is too sensitive to ask.
Our hope is to highlight ideas that can change the world for the better. We discuss politics, science, business, spirituality, and relationships. We might not always agree, and we are always willing to learn and have a lot of fun.
*We use adult language at times.
HOSTED BY
Jonathan Brink & Rich Goulette
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