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Madison and Wall Podcast
by Madison and Wall
Madison and Wall's Brian Wieser and Luke Stillman digs into how the advertising business really works. Subscribe for analysis, insight and more about advertising, media and technology trends. Access more M&W research summaries and analysis by subscribing to our complimentary Saturday newsletter at https://madisonandwall.substack.com/. To learn about becoming a paid subscriber or advertising with us, reach out to Brian at [email protected].
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Ep. 83 A Flurry of Ad News and Furry News
We review our latest work of the week, covering dozens of ad-supported companies who reported their quarterly earnings
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Ep. 82: AdTech Stacks, New Meta, Google and Amazon Ad Numbers and a Complaint About Opacity
We review our latest work of the week, including a piece on the evolution of ad tech stacks and the latest earnings from the biggest sellers of advertising, as well as a complaint about opaque numbers
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Ep. 81: Agency Industry Overview, Creative Destruction, New Apple CEO and MOre
We review our latest work of the week, including an overview of our latest in-depth report on the agency industry, how creative destruction (the Joseph Schumpter kind, not the end of agency kind) is supporting growth, the impact of Apple's leadership change and more
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Ep. 80: Canoe Slaloms, AI's Impact on Agencies, Netflix's Latest Results and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of current economic data, the latest earnings from Publicis, Havas, Netflix and MediaforEurope and more.
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Ep. 79: OpenAI’s $100 Billion Goal, WPP Looks to Sell PR, Weak Broadcasting Trends and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of current economic data, OpenAI’s reported forecasts for its advertising business, news about WPP potentially selling its PR agencies, Corus’ latest results and more.
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Ep. 78: Economic Update, Publicis’ Sports Marketing Investment and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of current economic data, Omnicom’s history vs. peers, sports marketing and more
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Ep. 77: OpenAI Ad Revenue Sizing, Nielsen’s Gauge Changes, In-App Advertising and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of sizing the opportunity for OpenAI’s advertising business, Nielsen’s news around The Gauge, Kantar’s latest results, in-app advertising and more
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Ep. 76: The Trade Desk and Publicis, How Agencies Adapt to AI, Principal Trading News and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of Madison & Wall's new report on AI and agencies, our analysis of a report from the ANA on principal trading, the dispute between Publicis and The Trade Desk and more.
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Ep. 75: New Ad Forecasts!
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of Madison & Wall's new ad forecasts, the latest economic news plus our latest observations on ad tech and more.
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Ep. 74: Uncertainty and Advertising, The DHS Boost to the Ad Market And More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured a discussion of the consequences of uncertainty on advertising, the impact of the Department of Homeland Security’s spending on advertising and more.
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Ep. 73: Ad Tech M&A, Tariffs, WPP Large Client Data and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured the real-world impact of tariff policies, the latest earnings results on advertising in ad tech and with agencies, Infillion's acquisition of Catalina, WPP's large client data published via court filing and more.
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Ep. 72: Omnicom and Walmart results, CAGNY commentary + News on The Trade Desk and Google
We review our latest work of the week, which featured analyses of topics including agency earnings results via Omnicom, commerce media results via Walmart, packaged goods management commentary at CAGNY and news related to The Trade Desk and Google.
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Ep. 71: AI, AI Owe: AI Ad Revenue, AI Capital Expenditures and Agentic Commerce Analysis; Changes at Dentsu, WPP and Omnicom; Analysis of Pinterest, Roku, AppLovin Earnings and More
We review our latest work of the week, which featured extensive analyses of topics around AI and advertising, big news for Dentsu, WPP and Omnicom and a review of earnings at Pinterest, Roku, TF1 and others
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Ep. 70: Saving Journalism (Or Not), New Businesses Formation = Ad Spend, Google, Amazon and Publicis Earnings, Marketer Commentary and More
We review our latest work of the week, including our detailed analysis of the limitations of saving journalism with advertising, as well as earnings results from (and the AI impact on) Google, Amazon and Publicis among others.
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Ep. 69: Meta's Growth, YouTube vs Barb, M&W Category Data and Much More
We review our latest work of the week, including Meta's ad revenue growth, the global read-throughs on YouTube's dispute with UK-based Barb, the launch of Madison & Wall's proprietary category advertising data and more on local and national TV from Comcast and Charter.
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Ep. 68: Netflix' Advertising Sales, Greenland & Advertising, News and Data from P&G, TikTok and WPP + More
We review our latest work of the week including the impact of tariff threats related to the US' interest in Greenland, Netflix advertising, TikTok, P&G and WPP's news about its production business
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Ep. 67: Super-Pod! With WPP Media’s Kate Scott-Dawkins, Nidhi Shah and Jeff Foster
On this week’s edition of the Madison & Wall podcast: a special cross-posting with the WPP Media Intelligence team! We discuss agentic commerce, bank earnings, TikTok’s World Cup plans, app advertising and more.
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Ep. 66: AI and How to Tell What Will Actually Move Ad Budgets; Publicis, LiveRamp and Data Businesses; How Agencies Grow
We review our latest work of the week including how to tell how AI will or won’t move ad budgets, an analysis of the potential combination of Publicis and LiveRamp and a review of our latest data on independent agency growth rates.
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Ep. 65: TikTok's US Sale, Alt. DSPs, Nielsen vs. the VAB and New Economic Data
We review our latest work of the week including TikTok's sale of its US business, our new overview of "Alternative" DSPs, the latest measurement spat involving Nielsen and the VAB and an analysis of new economic data,
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Ep. 64: New US and Canada Ad Forecasts, New Programmatic Ad Forecasts + Pinterest To Acquire tvScientific and More
We review our latest work of the week including an analysis of new US and Canada Ad forecasts, new programmatic ad forecasts, large and small advertiser trends as well as news that Pinterest is set to acquire tvScientific.
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Ep. 63: Netflix-WBD, Consumer Video Spending Trends + Omnicom's IPG Integration News
We review our latest work of the week including an analysis of the Netflix bid to buy Warner Bros. Discovery's studios and streaming business, new data on video spending by consumers, and our take on news related to Omnicom's integration of Interpublic following the close of that transaction.
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Ep. 62: AI Content Licensing, Retail Media, Global TV Trends + The Broadening of Market Definitions
We review our latest work of the week including an analysis of AI platform content licensing, strategic retail media trends, the consistency of weak TV trends in Europe and the evolution of regulators' market definitions
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Ep. 61 Consumer Video Spending, Programmatic Super Bowl Sales, Agency Growth Trends, Paramount’s Principal-Based Trades and the Consequences of an Accounting Dispute
We review our latest work of the week including new economic data from Europe, our analysis of the latest earnings results from Disney, Paramount, Interpublic + news from Publicis and much more.
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Ep. 60: Ad Tech Grows a Lot, Outdoor Grows a Little and Publishing Not So Much
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of the latest earnings results from ad tech, publishing, outdoor advertising, Comcast's interest in ITV and much, much more
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Ep. 59: CTV Prices, 3Q25 Ad Growth Acceleration, 2026 CPG Caution + WPP's Latest Results
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of streaming / CTV advertising pricing, new data from Google, Meta and Amazon showing acceleration in advertising growth - but also caution in spending from packaged goods companies - and the latest from WPP.
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Ep. 58: Netflix, Omnicom + What Happens When Agencies Stop Handling the Money?
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of the latest earnings results from Netflix and Omnicom, commentary from CEOs and CFOs at the world's largest marketers and a summary of our recent research on meaningful changes in marketers' use of agencies for media owner payments.
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Ep. 57: Big and Small Marketers Growth Trends, 3Q25 Results From Publicis, Havas and Nestle Analyzed
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of growth trends from Publicis, Havas and Nestle as well as a deeper dive into growth trends for large and small marketers
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Ep. 56: TV Network Sales Consolidations, AI Search + Marketer Preferences For Price and Convenience Over Control and Transparency
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of news on TV network sales consolidation (along with implications for markets around the world), AI Search, Zeta Global and Applovin with broader read-throughs for the larger brands who don't currently work with the latter two companies but prefer price and convenience over control and transparency.
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Ep. 55: The Trade Desk's Adapations, Google's DSP Share, Havas-Horizon and Indie Agency Growth Rates
We review our latest work of the week including our analysis of news from The Trade Desk, total spending volumes from Google's DV360, the Havas-Horizon and independent agency growth rates
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Ep. 54: Kimmel's Return, Growth In Streaming Spending By Consumers, Read-Throughs on Auto Sector, New IRS Data Shows Large Marketers Outpace Small Ones, Accenture Earnings + More
We review our latest work of the week including read-throughs on the impact of the news impacting Jimmy Kimmel Live!, including the impact on streaming and subscription services in general (which would be poised to continue growing even if Disney didn't also announce price increases), an analysis of the current state of auto advertising, new data from the IRS indicating that SMBs are not driving advertising growth and more
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Ep. 53: S4 + M&C Agency Read-Throughs, Retail Sales Trends + Implications of Jimmy Kimmel's "Pre-Emption"
We review our latest work of the week which includes our read-throughs on agencies from the S4 Capital and M&C Saatchi earnings results, a read-through on the economy from the latest retail sales data and the implications of the Jimmy Kimmel "pre-emption" on the broader advertising market.
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Ep. 52: New Ad Forecasts! + Pharma Ads, Paramount-WBD, CPG Mayhem and More
We review our latest work of the week which includes a deep dive on our latest advertising forecasts for the United States and Canada + review our takes on new policy announcements related to pharmaceutical ads in the US, the potential for a Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery merger and consequences of the significant corporate activity in the CPG space in recent weeks.
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Ep. 51: Google’s Search Trial and New Marketer Trend Commentary
We review our latest work of the week, which included an interview with former Target and KraftHeinz media director Nick Jezerian, the latest comments from the world’s biggest marketers during investor events and our take on the Google Search trial’s ruling announced this week.
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Ep. 50: Dentsu's Prospective Sale, Gap's Marketing Efficiencies and More
We review our latest work of the week, which included observations on inflation, Dentsu's prospective sale, the Gap's pursuit of more effective but less costly spending on marketing and more.
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Ep. 49: Meta's Metrics, Retail Media Acceleration Vs. E-Com Deceleration, the Cord-Cutting "Singularity" and More
We review our latest work of the week, which included observations on the newest concerns about measurement problems at Meta, our analysis of retail media in 2Q25 (contrasted with e-commerce deceleration), our latest video services spending and cord-cutting data + more
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Ep. 48: M&A in Broadcasting and Agencies, Dentsu + Globant 2Q25 Results and CPG Trends
We review our latest work of the week, which included observations on M&A in broadcasting with Tegna + Nexstar news, M&A in agency land with S4 Capital and MSQ, CPG trends as well as a review of Dentsu and Globant 2Q25 earnings results.
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Ep. 47: The Trade Desk, Ad Tech, TV and More Ad Trends For 2Q25
We review our latest work of the week, which included observations on The Trade Desk, ad tech, TV ad trends and much more from the latest results from the advertising industry's second quarter of 2025.
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Ep. 46: Meta and Other Company 2Q25 Results + Marketer Commentary Indicate Healthy Ad Market Despite Weakening Economy
We review our latest work of the week, which included an analysis of the latest results from Meta, Comcast, Pro7Sat1 and others, our take on comments from large marketers' CEOs and CFOs, plus how to interpret Stagwell's latest results and much more.
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Ep. 45: Google 2Q25, Marketer Spend Trends, IPG Results and Global TV Advertising
We review our latest work of the week, which included an analysis of the latest results from Google, comments from large marketers' CEOs and CFOs, IPG's quarterly trends and early reads on the most recent quarter for global TV advertising
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Ep. 44: Tik Tok Letters, Agency Growth, Netflix and More
We review our latest work of the week, which included an analysis of TikTok's letter to the Canadian government and incomplete claims of economic benefits, the latest agency growth trends following Omnicom and Publicis earnings, network content spending trends in context of the end of Stephen Colbert's Late Show and Netflix's ongoing growth + more.
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Ep. 43: WPP's New CEO, 2Q25 Indie Agency Growth Trends and More
This week we review our latest work exploring last week's earnings warning from WPP and its subsequent CEO appointment as well as our latest analysis of growth trends for independent agencies.
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Ep. 42: Global Digital Services Taxes, Tarrifs' Impact on Marketing and More
This week we review our latest work exploring digital services taxes in context of Canada-US trade disputes, the latest commentary from marketers' CEOs and CFOs on the impact of tarrifs on their businesses and more.
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Ep. 41: RTL, TF1 and Corus vs. Amazon, Disney and Netflix, Politics in Agency + More
In this week's episode of the Madison and Wall podcast we review our latest work, including a review of the strategic choices broadcasters such as Canada's Corus, France's TF1 and Germany's RTL are making in the face of growing competition from streamers as well as the political reality facing global agency holding companies in the wake of last week's FTC consent decree.
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Ep. 40 AI's Impact on Agencies, Accenture Reorg, AdTech Everywhere at Cannes
In this week's episode of the Madison and Wall podcast we review our latest work, including publications on the impact of AI on agencies, news from Accenture related to its presence in media and corportate reorganization and several news items from ad tech relevant to the broader advertising industry.
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Ep. 39: WPP CEO Change, Agency Industry Forecast, Warner Media Split, Bell Media's Ad Tech Partnerships and More
In this week's episode of the Madison and Wall podcast we review what happens next for WPP in light of its CEO change, our newest advertising agency forecast, Warner Bros. Discovery's break-up, Bell Media’s ad tech partnerships, the future of TV/video buying and more.
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Ep. 38: New Ad Forecast! Behind Our 2025 Upgrade
In this week's episode of the Madison and Wall podcast we review our newest advertising forecast and some of the potential drivers of recent advertising strength in the US. We then explain why despite the upgraded forecast, many risks loom.
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Ep. 37: Digital Ad Taxes, CPG Trends + What Caused 1Q25's Strength?
In this week's episode of the Madison and Wall podcast we review new economic news, discuss the impact of taxes on digital advertising, look at CPG industry growth rates and explore factors impacting the most recent quarter's ad market strength.
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Ep. 36: Big, Beautiful Business Deterrents, New Pay TV and Video Data, Publicis Buys Influencer Agency and More
On this week's M&W Podcast we review our take on the potential consequences for foreign capital investment that may follow from tax policy changes in the US, go over new TV data we published on pay TV subscriptions, video ad loads and video spending and assess the news of Publicis' acquisition of a new influencer agency.
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Ep. 35: TV Upfronts, Retail Sales, Netflix Data, Dentsu + Globant and More
On this week's M&W Podcast review the latest retail sales data and its read-throughs for the economy, Walmart’s advertising business, our take on the Upfronts, Netflix’s latest data point on ad-supported subscribers, the latest results from Dentsu and Globant and more.
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Ep. 34. Google's Search Durability, Tariffs and Advertising, More 1Q25 Results + Ads101 on Programmatic Advertising With Dentsu's Zac Selby
On this week's M&W Podcast, we provide our regular take on new economic data, advertising industry earnings results and more. We also summarize our original research of the week. Plus, our Advertising 101 series continues with a focus on digital advertising – and programmatic advertising in particular – with Dentsu Media’s global addressable lead, Zac Selby.
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Madison and Wall's Brian Wieser and Luke Stillman digs into how the advertising business really works. Subscribe for analysis, insight and more about advertising, media and technology trends. Access more M&W research summaries and analysis by subscribing to our complimentary Saturday newsletter at https://madisonandwall.substack.com/. To learn about becoming a paid subscriber or advertising with us, reach out to Brian at [email protected].
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