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Making Disciples Naturally
by Kansas Communities Ministry
What does it mean to "make disciples"? What is the image in your mind when you hear the word "disciple"? The Kansas Communities Ministry has been involved in helping people grow in their walk with the Lord for nearly 50 years. We believe making disciples should be a natural part of our everyday lives. Hear practical, stimulating, Biblically-based thoughts on how to invest in individuals and help them in their walk with the Lord no matter where they are in their journey.
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Ep. 345 How can we as Navigators serve the local church? Part 2 of 3 Dr. Jerry White
Send us Fan MailDr. Jerry White, International President Emeritus of The Navigators (R) is our speaker for the Fall Conference September 2026 in Wichita. Dr. White is a retired Major General of the USAF Reserves and contributed academically and by his work to the astronautics program for the United States. Here are some resources from Dr. White: Harsh Grief, Gentle Hope by Mary White about the loss of their son in 1992 and how God provided comfort and hope in that situation.Dangers Men Face by Jerry White about stress, work, anger, sexualityDr. Jerry White's website
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Ep. 344 How should we look at "failure" in God’s providential plan? Part 1 of 3 Dr. Jerry White
Send us Fan MailDr. Jerry White, International President Emeritus of The Navigators (R) is our speaker for the Fall Conference September 2026 in Wichita. Dr. White is a retired Major General of the USAF Reserves and contributed academically and by his work to the astronautics program for the United States. Here are some resources from Dr. White: Harsh Grief, Gentle Hope by Mary White about the loss of their son in 1992 and how God provided comfort and hope in that situation. Dangers Men Face by Jerry White about stress, work, anger, sexuality Dr. Jerry White's website
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Ep. 343 What does making disciples look like in challenging situations? Part two of two: Interview with Paul
Send us Fan MailPaul and Susan (names changed for security purposes) teach in a school in North Africa. Influenced by The Navigators (c) while in college, they continue to have a heart for individuals and for making disciples, even in challenging conditions. Paul shares insights, lessons learned and opportunities taken in this podcast.
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Ep. 342 What does making disciples look like in challenging settings? Part one of two: Interview with Paul
Send us Fan MailPaul and Susan (names changed for security purposes) teach in a school in North Africa. Influenced by The Navigators (c) while in college, they continue to have a heart for individuals and for making disciples, even in challenging conditions. Paul shares insights, lessons learned and opportunities taken in this podcast.
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Ep. 341 Why is self-sufficiency not always a good thing? Part 3 of 3 Richard Spann (Re-release)
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann is the former Ministry Director of the Kansas Communities Ministry and is a retired pulmonary physician. He shares thoughts about the importance of investing in eternal things, the souls of men and women, in this talk from January 2018.
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Ep. 340 Are you in the battle? Part 2 of 3 Richard Spann (Re-release)
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann is the former Ministry Director of the Kansas Communities Ministry and is a retired pulmonary physician. He shares thoughts about the importance of investing in eternal things, the souls of men and women, in this talk from January 2018.
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Ep. 339 How can I invest in that which is eternal? Part 1 of 3 Richard Spann (Re-release)
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann is the former Ministry Director of the Kansas Communities Ministry and is a retired pulmonary physician. He shares thoughts about the importance of investing in eternal things, the souls of men and women, in this talk from January 2018.
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Ep. 338 How can we use spiritual conversations to share the Good News? Part two of two Roger Van Noord
Send us Fan MailWould you like to understand more about how to bring the gospel and spiritual things into an ordinary conversation? Today's podcast should help! Roger and Joan Van Noord are lifelong Navigator staff who have a heart for reaching people with the gospel and then helping them grow in their faith. They have ministered several locations in Michigan and remain active in ministry today. Click here for the free booklet on Spiritual Conversations
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Ep. 337 How can we use spiritual conversations to share the Good News? Part one of two Roger Van Noord
Send us Fan MailWould you like to understand more about how to bring the gospel and spiritual things into an ordinary conversation? Today's podcast should help! Roger and Joan Van Noord are lifelong Navigator staff who have a heart for reaching people with the gospel and then helping them grow in their faith. They have ministered several locations in Michigan and remain active in ministry today. Click here for the free booklet on Spiritual Conversations
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Ep. 336 What is a "supernatural" ministry? David Dennis
Send us Fan MailWhy do we often not see growth in ourselves or others as we would hope. The answers are complex. However, Jesus teaches us in John 15 that "apart from Me you can do nothing." He also, in the same verse says, "He who abides in Me and I in Him bears much fruit." It is possible to see growth, but it will not occur if we rely on human wisdom alone. We do have a role to play, but something bigger is going on when we enter the spiritual realm, something that is a battle that must be fought in faith and on our knees.
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Ep. 335 Seeing the sovereign hand of God at work — The remarkable story of professional cartoonist Ron Wheeler. Part three of three.
Send us Fan MailMr. Ron Wheeler, professional cartoonist in the Kansas City area, was repeatedly confronted by rejection, discouragement and distrust of his friends in his pursuit of his career and of truth. Listen and be encouraged as Ron tells us about God's sovereign hand at work, quietly and often behind the scenes, yet always lovingly directing his life. Ron's website: CartoonWorks.comRon's story as told on the radio program Unshackled: Click here, then scroll about halfway down the page and click the audio file to listen.
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Ep. 334 Seeing the sovereign hand of God at work — The remarkable story of professional cartoonist Ron Wheeler. Part two of three.
Send us Fan MailMr. Ron Wheeler, professional cartoonist in the Kansas City area, was repeatedly confronted by rejection, discouragement and distrust of his friends in his pursuit of his career and of truth. Listen and be encouraged as Ron tells us about God's sovereign hand at work, quietly and often behind the scenes, yet always lovingly directing his life. Ron's website: CartoonWorks.comRon's story as told on the radio program Unshackled: Click here, then scroll about halfway down the page and click the audio file to listen.
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Ep. 333 Seeing the sovereign hand of God at work — The remarkable story of professional cartoonist Ron Wheeler. Part one of three.
Send us Fan MailMr. Ron Wheeler, professional cartoonist in the Kansas City area, was repeatedly confronted by rejection, discouragement and distrust of his friends in his pursuit of his career and of truth. Listen and be encouraged as Ron tells us about God's sovereign hand at work, quietly and often behind the scenes, yet always lovingly directing his life. Ron's website: CartoonWorks.comRon's story as told on the radio program Unshackled: Click here, then scroll about halfway down the page and click the audio file to listen.
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Ep. 332 What kind of legacy will you leave? Part 2 of 2 Drew Peters (Re-release)
Send us Fan MailThis message is from a 2019 address by Drew Peters (who works with STUMO at the University of Kansas).
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Ep. 331 What kind of legacy will you leave? Part 1 of 2 Drew Peters (Re-release)
Send us Fan MailThis message is from a 2019 address by Drew Peters (who works with STUMO at the University of Kansas).
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Ep. 330 What are “spiritual conversations”? Part 3 of 3 Doug Simmons
Send us Fan MailDoug and Laura Simmons are on staff with the Navigators and live in the Kansas City area. Today Doug shares practical thoughts on how to introduce and develop "spiritual conversations" in a natural and non-pressured way. The Insider by Jim Petersen and Mike ShamyResource mentioned on the podcast: Spiritual Conversations (free PDF download).
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Ep. 329 What is an "Alongsider"? Part 2 of 3 Doug Simmons
Send us Fan MailIn this second of three podcasts with Navigator Doug Simmons, we hear practical advice on what it means to simply come alongside of someone, in a committed, loving and trusting relationship, to help them grow in Christ. Here are two resources mentioned in the podcast: Free download of the "R+2D+3A" illustration. Click here.Ways of the Alongsider by Bill Mowry. Click here. Bill Mowry's website and resources. Click here.
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Ep. 328 How does God work in a life to multiply spiritual generations? Part 1 of 3 Doug Simmons
Send us Fan MailDoug and Laura Simmons are on staff with the Navigators (c) in the Kansas City area. They have a long and varied career of impacting lives for Jesus Christ. In this first of three podcasts with Doug, we learn about how God has worked in his life to multiply spiritual generations. He shares practical thoughts about making disciples who make disciples.
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Ep. 327 Where do I begin? Part 3 of 3 Roundtable with Elmo Joseph, Art Sauder, Ryan Henderson and David Dennis
Send us Fan MailWhere do I begin when I want to start helping someone else grow spiritually? What resources are available? What is disciplemaking all about? These are some very practical and Biblical ideas presented by a round table of four members of the Kansas Communities Ministry Team. Navigator (c) Resource "Seven tips for starting a discipleship relationship"
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Ep. 326 Where do I begin? Part 2 of 3 Roundtable with Elmo Joseph, Art Sauder, Ryan Henderson and David Dennis
Send us Fan MailWhere do I begin when I want to start helping someone else grow spiritually? What resources are available? What is disciplemaking all about? These are some very practical and Biblical ideas presented by a round table of four members of the Kansas Communities Ministry Team. Navigator (c) resource "Seven tips for starting a discipleship relationship"
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Ep. 325 Where do I begin? Part 1 of 3 Roundtable with Elmo Joseph, Art Sauder, Ryan Henderson, David Dennis
Send us Fan MailWhere do I begin when I want to start helping someone else grow spiritually? What resources are available? What is disciplemaking all about? These are some very practical and Biblical ideas presented by a round table of four members of the Kansas Communities Ministry Team. Navigator (c) Resource "Seven tips for starting a discipleship relationship"
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Ep. 324 Man to man: What is it? Why do it? Part 2 of 2 Richard Spann (re-release)
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann shares insights on helping others grow.
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Ep. 323 Man to man: What is it? Why do it? part 1 of 2 Richard Spann (re-release)
Send us Fan MailIn this reprise episode, former Kansas Communities Director Richard Spann shares insights on the how's and why's of one-to-one discipleship.
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Ep. 322 How do I cultivate my walk with Christ? Part 3 of 3 Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.Free download on Cultivating our Walk with Christ
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Ep. 321 How do I cultivate my walk with Christ? Part 2 of 3 Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.Free download on Cultivating our Walk with Christ
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Ep. 320 How do I cultivate my walk with Christ? Part 1 of 3 Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.Free download on Cultivating our Walk with Christ
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Ep. 319 What are we aiming for? Part 2 of 2 Ron Bennett
Send us Fan MailRon Bennett serves as Senior Staff with the Navigators and is a world leader in discipleship thought and practice. He is our featured speaker for the 2026 Spring Men's Retreat. Info and registration for the retreat: https://kansasnavs.org/conferences/Ron's blog: https://www.rbennett.net/High Quest discipleship series: http://www.highquest.info/
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Ep. 318 What are we aiming for? Part 1 of 2 Ron Bennett
Send us Fan MailRon Bennett serves as Senior Staff with the Navigators and is a world leader in discipleship thought and practice. He is our featured speaker for the 2026 Spring Men's Retreat. Info and registration for the retreat: https://kansasnavs.org/conferences/Ron's blog: https://www.rbennett.net/High Quest discipleship series: http://www.highquest.info/
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Ep. 317 Is it possible to say I have a "clear conscience"? David Dennis
Send us Fan MailWhat is the "conscience"? And more importantly, what does the Bible have to say about our conscience? How do we have a clear conscience? How does a conscience get "seared"? Got Questions Website (referenced in the podcast)
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Ep. 316 How does God form faithful servants out of difficult beginnings? Part 3 of 3 Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.
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Ep. 315 How does God form faithful servants out of difficult beginnings? Part 2 of 3 Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.
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Ep. 314 How does God form faithful servants out of difficult beginnings? Part 1 of 3: Mike Bullok
Send us Fan MailMr. Mike Bullok is a man who began life in challenging circumstances, but through God's faithfulness found the Lord and has served him faithfully for decades. Mike was adopted at age of 4 and grew up in Illinois and Missouri. After high school, he spent 3 years in the Marine Corps where he was greatly helped in his spiritual life by the Navigators. He spent 2 years in San Diego involved with the Navigators military ministry. He is a graduate of Missouri University (Columbia) and Dallas Theological Seminary. He taught for 5 years at Detroit Bible College as well as serving as their business manager. Most of his career was spent in hospital administration with Quorum Health Resources (previously HCA Management Company). He has been retired for 15 years. He and his wife, Dawn, have been married for 53 years and have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. Mike currently teaches at his local church and at Eleos Ministries in Kansas City.
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Ep. 313 How can I make my "Quiet Time" vital and exciting? Part 3 of 3 Elmo Joseph
Send us Fan MailDo you struggle with your "quiet time" in terms of trying keep it fresh and interactive with our Lord? You're not alone! This great message by Mr. Elmo Joseph offers great advice on how to rejuvenate your "appointment with God," or quiet time.Click here to download the free handout "The Quiet Time: Ten Motivations and Guidelines to Consider"
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Ep. 312 How can I make my "Quiet Time" vital and exciting? Part 2 of 3 Elmo Joseph
Send us Fan MailDo you struggle with your "quiet time" in terms of trying keep it fresh and interactive with our Lord? You're not alone! This great message by Mr. Elmo Joseph offers great advice on how to rejuvenate your "appointment with God," or quiet time.Click here to download the free handout "The Quiet Time: Ten Motivations and Guidelines to Consider"
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Ep. 311 How can I make my “Quiet Time” vital and exciting? Part 1 of 3 Elmo Joseph
Send us Fan MailDo you struggle with your "quiet time" in terms of trying keep it fresh and interactive with our Lord? You're not alone! This great message by Mr. Elmo Joseph offers great advice on how to rejuvenate your "appointment with God," or quiet time.Click here to download the free handout "The Quiet Time: Ten Motivations and Guidelines to Consider"
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Ep. 310 O Little Town of Bethlehem
Send us Fan MailIn this special year-end edition of Making Disciples Naturally, we again ponder the mystery and beauty of Christ's first coming using this famous Christmas carol.
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Ep. 309 What are the weapons God uses to accomplish His objectives? Part 2 of 2 Gene Warr
Send us Fan MailMr. Gene Warr was a successful businessman in Oklahoma, who developed the real estate subdivision Warr Acres in NW Oklahoma City, among other ventures. He and his wife Irma made a tremendous impact on numerous people during their lifetimes. He was instrumental in starting the Baptist Student Union. He was a direct influence on Jim Morris, the founder of the Kansas Communities Ministry. This message is from a talk he gave to a conference to the Kansas Communities Ministry in 1988. Richard Spann's blog Starting Where You Are detailing the connection with the Kansas Navigators.
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Ep. 308 What are the weapons God uses to accomplish His objective? Part 1 of 2 Gene Warr
Send us Fan MailMr. Gene Warr was a successful businessman in Oklahoma, who developed the real estate subdivision Warr Acres in NW Oklahoma City, among other ventures. He and his wife Irma made a tremendous impact on numerous people during their lifetimes. He was instrumental in starting the Baptist Student Union. He was a direct influence on Jim Morris, the founder of the Kansas Communities Ministry. This message is from a talk he gave to a conference to the Kansas Communities Ministry in 1988. Richard Spann's blog Starting Where You Are detailing the connection with the Kansas Navigators.
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Ep. 307 What are some indispensable principles of making disciples? Part 2 of 2 Richard Spann
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann, former Ministry Director for the Kansas Communities Ministry shares insights on being and making disciples in this message from a men's conference in Salina, KS in 2016. Download handout here.
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Ep. 306 What are some indispensable principles of making disciples? Part 1 of 2 Richard Spann
Send us Fan MailRichard Spann, former Ministry Director for the Kansas Communities Ministry shares insights on being and making disciples in this message from a men's conference in Salina, KS in 2016. Download handout here.
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Ep. 305 How does God use ordinary people to accomplish His will? Part 2 of 2 Mike Schmid
Send us Fan MailMike Schmid, along with his wife Lorelai, ministered to countless service people over the years. They were on Navigator Staff and he was a pilot for the USAF. Hear how we, as ordinary people, can be used of God to minister to a wounded and lost world.The previous podcasts with Mike were episodes 243, 247, 248 and 249. Mike went home to be with the Lord in March 2024. Download his free handout here to follow along with the message.
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Ep. 304 How does God use ordinary people to accomplish His will? Part 1 of 2 Mike Schmid
Send us Fan MailMike Schmid, along with his wife Lorelai, ministered to countless service people over the years. They were on Navigator Staff and he was a pilot for the USAF. Hear how we, as ordinary people, can be used of God to minister to a wounded and lost world.The previous podcasts with Mike were episodes 243, 247, 248 and 249. Mike went home to be with the Lord in March 2024. Download his free handout here to follow along with the message.
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Ep. 303 How do I sow the Gospel in the lives of my friends and family? Part 3 of 3 Doug Benshoof
Send us Fan MailDoug and Betty Benshoof served with the Navigators in Spain, then moved to San Antonio and developed a ministry among college students and young adults. He spoke to our ministry in 2009 about the importance of simply sowing the Gospel and not focusing on the "harvest." Engel Scale Resource
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Ep. 302 How do I sow the Gospel in the lives of my friends and family? Part 2 of 3 Doug Benshoof
Send us Fan MailDoug and Betty Benshoof served with the Navigators in Spain, then moved to San Antonio and developed a ministry among college students and young adults. He spoke to our ministry in 2009 about the importance of simply sowing the Gospel and not focusing on the "harvest." Engel Scale Resource
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Ep. 301 How do I sow the Gospel in the lives of our friends and family? Part 1 of 3: Doug Benshoof
Send us Fan MailDoug and Betty Benshoof served with the Navigators in Spain, then moved to San Antonio and developed a ministry among college students and young adults. He spoke to our ministry in 2009 about the importance of simply sowing the Gospel and not focusing on the "harvest." Engel Scale Resource
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Ep. 300 How is discipleship like apprenticeship? Part 2 of 2 Chris Majors, DDS
Send us Fan MailDr. Chris Majors is a long-time and respected member of our Kansas Communities Ministry Team. He had a thriving dental practice in Wichita for some 25 years when he decided to make a mid-life career change. God had prepared him for this for a number of years and it is exciting to see how God put those pieces together. In this podcast series, Chris shares how he served as an apprentice under his father-in-law's direction as he built his practice and how this experience helped him see discipleship as a similar process. You can reach Chris at [email protected] or via LinkedIn.
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Ep. 299 How is discipleship like apprenticeship? Part 1 of 2 Chris Majors, DDS
Send us Fan MailDr. Chris Majors is a long-time and respected member of our Kansas Communities Ministry Team. He had a thriving dental practice in Wichita for some 25 years when he decided to make a mid-life career change. God had prepared him for this for a number of years and it is exciting to see how God put those pieces together. In this podcast series, Chris shares how he served as an apprentice under his father-in-law's direction as he built his practice and how this experience helped him see discipleship as a similar process. You can reach Chris at [email protected] or via LinkedIn.
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Ep. 298 How is God working among international students today? Part 2 of 2 Rod and Jane Fox
Send us Fan MailRod and Jane Fox work with Bridges International. In this podcast we hear about their ministry in helping international students. Here are some of the websites mentioned in the podcast: Conversation Art CardsJane Fox ConversationsEvery International
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Ep. 297 How is God working among international students today? Part 1 of 2 Rod and Jane Fox
Send us Fan MailRod and Jane Fox work with Bridges International. In this podcast we hear about their ministry in helping international students. Here are some of the websites mentioned in the podcast: Conversation Art CardsJane Fox ConversationsEvery International
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Ep. 296 What is "A Life Worth Living"? Part 2 of 2 Mark Scaffidi and Mike Jordahl
Send us Fan MailMark Scaffidi is Campus Ministry Director for the Navigators at Wichita State University and Mike Jordahl is Senior Advisor to the Collegiate Ministry Team with the Navigators. They will be our speakers at the annual Fall Discipleship Conference, October 4, 2025 at Eastminster Presbyterian Church in Wichita. Download a Fall Conference brochure hereConference page, including online registration (when available) here.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
What does it mean to "make disciples"? What is the image in your mind when you hear the word "disciple"? The Kansas Communities Ministry has been involved in helping people grow in their walk with the Lord for nearly 50 years. We believe making disciples should be a natural part of our everyday lives. Hear practical, stimulating, Biblically-based thoughts on how to invest in individuals and help them in their walk with the Lord no matter where they are in their journey.
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