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Not Just A Pony Ride
by HETRA
Ever wanted to know more about Equine-Assisted Services (EAS) and Therapies? Join us as we explore the industry. Hear valuable education for instructors & therapists, insight into business strategies, and all the reasons why horses are so impactful for our mental & physical health. This podcast is presented by Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy (HETRA), with over 35 years of experience in the EAS industry.Get all of our resources here: https://notjustaponyride.my.canva.site/linkinbio
Episodes
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167. The Purpose of the Pause: Session Break Weeks
In this episode of the Not Just A Pony Ride Podcast, we dive into the strategy and importance behind Session Break Weeks in adaptive riding and equine-assisted service programs. Taking an intentional pause isn't just about taking time off, it's a critical tool for maintaining high standards of...
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Short 166. What is HETRA University Live?
Curious about HETRA University Live? Join us in this quick episode of the Not Just A Pony Ride Podcast as we explain what HETRA University Live is and why it's a valuable resource for all EAS professionals!Register Now for our upcoming HETRA University Live!📍 Where: Honey Bridge Ranch- Home of...
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165. The Balancing Act: Being a Part-Time CTRI
Wearing multiple hats is a challenge familiar to so many in the Equine Assisted Services community, yet it’s something that isn’t talked about enough. Whether you’re full-time, part-time, or a dedicated volunteer, balancing your roles takes heart and intentionality. In this episode of the Not…
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164. Replay- "Scheduled Ground Week"
Don't be afraid to try new things! This week on the podcast we are talking about a new policy we implemented at HETRA - scheduled "ground weeks". During this week, all participants who participate in a mounted program move to ground based activities for the week. This gives our horses a break and...
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163. Do We Have to Say No? Contraindications vs. Precaution
In this episode of the Not Just A Pony Ride Podcast, we dive into navigating complex participant needs in equine-assisted services. We explore the critical distinction between a true contraindication and a precaution, examining how to evaluate safety without unnecessarily turning participants...
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162. What Exactly is Leader Practice? (and Why You Need It)
In this episode of Not Just A Pony Ride, we dive deep into What Exactly is Leader Practice, what it looks like, why it’s a game changer for your team and horses, and how implementing structured practice sessions elevates safety, skill, and confidence across your equine-assisted service program....
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161. Bridging the Gap: Mental Health in the Arena
In this episode of Not Just A Pony Ride, we sit down with Rebecca Nichols, LMHP, to discuss an essential topic for equine-assisted service providers: navigating mental health in the arena. Rebecca breaks down the boundaries of practice, offering clear guidance on what adaptive riding instructors...
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160. Real Talk: EAS Programming for Veterans & First Responders
Welcome back to another episode of Not Just A Pony Ride, a podcast by HETRA (Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy). In this episode, we continue our powerful conversation with Brittany and Emma, diving deeper into how equine-assisted services support our Veteran community. Tune in to hear...
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159. Replay- Understanding Diagnoses: What is Stimming?
We are adding tools to our instructor toolbox today with another installation of Understanding Diagnoses. This episode is a little different, we aren’t going to talk about a specific diagnosis but rather something that we see most commonly as part of neurodivergent diagnoses. Stimming. Stimming…
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158. Funding Dreams: A Look Inside Our Annual Fundraiser
In this episode of Not Just A Pony Ride, we are pulling back the curtain on our biggest and most anticipated event of the year! We sit down with Noah and Kalynn for an exclusive, inside look at everything Blue Jeans & Dreams. Whether you are a HETRA supporter or a fellow therapeutic riding center...
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157. A New Chapter: Welcoming Emma
Change is in the air, and we couldn't be more excited! In this episode, we are pulling back the curtain to introduce the newest voice behind the mic. Join us as we officially welcome Emma to the team as our new podcast host!We sit down with Emma to talk about her background, her passion for...
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156. EAS & Research: Better Together
In this episode we sit down with a powerhouse panel of researchers and practitioners to talk about a groundbreaking, high risk study breaking down the silos in Equine-Assisted Services (EAS). Funded by the Horses and Humans Research Foundation (HHRF), this study is the very first to measure real...
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155. Navigating a Wait List of Participants
Waitlists are common in EAS programs—but are they always being defined and managed effectively? In this episode, we dive into one of the most important (and often frustrating) operational topics for centers: the waitlist. At HETRA, someone is not considered officially on the waitlist until all...
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154. Scheduled “Ground Week”: Perspectives from a New Routine at HETRA
Don't be afraid to try new things! This week on the podcast we are talking about a new policy we implemented at HETRA - scheduled "ground weeks". During this week, all participants who participate in a mounted program move to ground based activities for the week. This gives our horses a break and...
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153. Replay: What Goes Into Thorough Participant Evaluation?
We’re bringing back one of our favorite “oldie but goodie” episodes—because the topic is that important. Thoughtful, thorough evaluation of incoming participants is a cornerstone of success in equine-assisted services, not only for the individuals we serve, but for our instructors, volunteers…
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152. Five Things Every EAS Professional Should Know About Seizures
Seizures are more common than many people realize—and in equine-assisted services, being prepared can make all the difference. In this episode, we break down five essential things every EAS professional should understand about seizures, from recognition to response, so you can create a safer…
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151. When the Stars Align: Thoughts on Research, Education and Real Experiences
In this episode, we welcome back Edye Godden to reflect on two recent events that sparked important conversations in the EAS industry: the Horses and Humans Research Foundation Conference and HETRA University Live. We discovered that themes from both events aligned—showing that new research is...
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150. The Next Generation of EAS Leaders: What do they want?
In this episode, we welcome back Jeff Arnold, Founder of Leadership Adventures, for a powerful conversation about what it really takes to build the next generation of leaders in the EAS industry. Expect to here more on: When we talk about “next generation leaders,” we’re talking about all of us....
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149. How do we fund our horses? Campaign and Sponsorship Ideas
In equine-assisted services, our horses make everything possible—but funding their care can be one of the biggest ongoing challenges programs face. In this episode, Edye Godden CEO of HETRA shares practical, sustainable ways to fund the horses who serve our participants, including campaigns and...
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148. Insurance for EAS Centers: Trends and Important Questions with Killian Insurance
Are you asking all the right questions when it comes to coverage for your EAS centers? Don't get caught in a loop hole without coverage! Jonathan Killian with Killian Insurance Agency is back on the podcast to help us understand this complex topic. Jon is sharing what he's learned and trends he…
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147. Making a Change in Your Center? It's more complicated than we thought!
n this episode, Shelby and Kaiti unpack a realization that genuinely surprised them. Of all the education we have provided recently around equine welfare, we assumed the biggest hurdle would be whether people wanted to make changes and what changes to make. What we discovered instead was…
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146. Seizure Disclosure Form
In this episode we walk through the Seizure Disclosure Form and policies used at HETRA, explaining not just what we ask, but why it matters. This conversation is designed to support transparency, safety, and collaboration. We talk through how seizure information helps staff make informed…
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145. Staying Respectfully Curious with HHRF
The first installment of a quarterly check in with HHRF! We’re joined by HHRF CEO, Pebbles Turbeville and 3 members of the HHRF community: Jo, Justin and Elizabeth. This episode is an honest exploration of how research, lived experience, and open-minded dialogue can (and should) coexist. We talk...
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SHORT 144. Five Things I Would Tell My Younger Executive Director Self…
What would you tell yourself if you could go back to your earliest days as an executive director?In this episode, Edye Godden—CEO of HETRA and a leader in equine-assisted services for over 30 years—shares five lessons she wishes she’d known sooner. Drawing from her experience, Edye offers…
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143. REPLAY Positive Culture in EAS Staff with Edye Godden, CEO
In the replay of this popular episode, HETRA CEO Edye Godden is sharing with us how HETRA manages a healthy work culture. Tune in for real-world tools and reflections to help you lead with intention and keep what matters most at the center. Hear what tools we have used for staff development too!:...
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142. Anticipatory Balance - both horses and humans have it!
In this episode, we dive into the fascinating concept of anticipatory balance—the body’s ability to predict movement before it happens. It’s a skill that both humans and horses rely on constantly, and in Equine-Assisted Services, it becomes a crucial part of safety, function, and performance. We...
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SHORT 141. This Isn’t “Equine Therapy” - Edye Breaks Down Real Terms & Real Work
In this new series of short episodes - we hear from Edye Godden, OT, CTRI & HETRA’s CEO, for a candid conversation about language, ethics, and professionalism in EAS. Too often, well-intended phrases or flashy-looking credentials can blur lines, misrepresent our field, and ultimately undermine…
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140. 10 Ways we Use our Equicizer in EAS
In this episode, we dive into one of the most versatile tools in our program—the Equicizer, our mechanical horse who works just as hard as our live herd. Whether he’s helping participants who aren’t quite ready for a live horse or being your ambassador at a marketing event, the Equicizer plays a...
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139. Live! - Does Balanced vs. Unbalanced Rider Ability Matter for Equine Weight Limits?
Live from the PATH Intl. International Conference – Denver, CO!I n this special episode recorded live in front of a studio audience, we dive into a lively and thought-provoking group discussion on one of the most frequently debated topics in equine-assisted services: How do we define a “balanced...
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138. Gravitational Insecurity and Fear While Mounted
In this episode, Kaiti Otte, OTD, OTR/L, PATH Intl. CTRI, builds on a topic recently explored in our Neurodivergent Mini Course—understanding how the vestibular system and gravitational insecurity can impact our participants’ experience. The question came up in our live office hours discussion…
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137. Partnering with a Hospital for Equine Assisted Therapy with Rachel Elder of Agape
In this episode, we’re joined by Rachel Elder, PATH Intl. CTRI, CHA IRD, and Program Director at Agape in Cicero, Indiana, to explore the inner workings and far-reaching influence of Agape’s programs. Rachel shares insights into how Agape’s hippotherapy program operates through a unique hospital...
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136. Horses as Partners in Mental Health
On this episode we are honoring World Mental Health Day. The overall objective of World Mental Health Day is to raise awareness of mental health issues around the world and to mobilize efforts in support of mental health. I’m honored to share the work that HETRA does through our mental health...
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135. Evaluating Potential EAS Horses
You have identified a potential horse for your program and you’re ready to go take a look. What you do at this initial visit is a pivotal part of setting your new herd members up for success. What do you do while you’re there? How do you do a thorough investigation of their behaviors and medical...
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134. TEN TIPS for Improving Working Memory for EAS Participants
For many participants in equine-assisted services (EAS), challenges with memory can impact everything from following multi-step directions to staying engaged in a session. We’ll explore 10 practical, research-based tips for strengthening working memory that you can start using right away in your...
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133. Emergency Dismounts in EAS: What’s your Plan of Action?
In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we’re talking about one of the most critical skills for every Equine-Assisted Services team—emergency dismounts. Whether it’s a sudden horse reaction, a participant complication, or an environmental hazard, having a clear plan of action can make all the...
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132. Pairing Horses & Riders: Movement & Conformation
In this episode, we explore how a horse’s unique conformation and natural movement patterns directly influence the rider’s experience, posture, and progress. Kaiti Otte, OT will discuss why we may pair different participants with certain horses including how different diagnoses and impairments…
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131. Safety Stirrups: What options are right for your center?
The world of equine-assisted services is always evolving—and sometimes that means letting go of long-standing tools we’ve relied on for years. In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we dive into the recent ban on peacock stirrups, a staple in many EAS programs, and explore what this change…
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130. Maintaining the Senior Horse - REPLAY
In this replay from episode #21, we’re diving into maintaining our Steady Eddy’s. We all have them and we love them - but how do we balance keeping them happy, healthy, sane and sound with our budget? Shelby Schult, HETRA’s Program Director explains how we do that at HETRA including discussing...
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129. Having Hard Conversations in EAS: Why is it so hard? with Cindy Schwarz
In this episode, we dive into the challenges of having tough conversations in the equine-assisted services industry with leadership coach Cindy Schwarz from Ears Up Leadership. Why do we avoid hard discussions, even when they’re necessary? Cindy brings clarity and compassion to the topic…
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128. Writing Social Stories: Helping participants through new, changing or difficult tasks
In today’s episode, we’re diving into social stories — those short, purposeful narratives designed to help people better understand specific situations, events, or tasks. You’ve probably heard of them, especially in the context of supporting neurodivergent children, including those with autism,...
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127. Granting Wishes and Dreams in EAS with Kelly Jacobs from Dreamweaver Foundation
In this episode, we explore how meaningful experiences and community connections can bring light and joy to older adults facing life-limiting illnesses. We’re honored to highlight our partnership with the Dreamweaver Foundation, an local organization dedicated to fulfilling dreams for seniors....
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126. The Ultimate Non-Profit Tip Roundup with The Papillion Community Foundation - REPLAY
In this replay from episode #61, we’re diving into a powerful roundup of non-profit wisdom with highlights from our conversation with the former ED from the Papillion Community Foundation. Packed with actionable insights, this episode is your go-to guide for aligning your mission, building the...
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125. Power of Positive Affirmations with Isabela Amaral and Fred Ginman
Isabela Amaral is the proud mother of Fred Ginman — a resilient boy born extremely premature, diagnosed with Cerebral Palsy, who now inspires others through his story of overcoming physical challenges. Together, they co-created the children’s book “I Can, I Want To, and I Will!” — a powerful,...
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124. Creating a Positive Culture for your Staff
In this episode, HETRA CEO Edye Godden is sharing with us how HETRA manages a healthy work culture. Tune in for real-world tools and reflections to help you lead with intention and keep what matters most at the center. Expect to hear: Getting to Know Your Team & Managing Conflict Work-Life…
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123. Healing from Eating Disorders with the Help of Horses with Barb Cotten, LMHP and Teresa Ryan BSN, RN
In this episode we are taking a look at an equine-assisted group program that specializes in helping those who are healing from eating disorders. Teresa Ryan BSN, RN is here to give us a look inside the inpatient program that partners with Take Flight Farms and Barb Cotten, LMHP - who is also on...
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122. No Show and Cancellation Policies in EAS
EAS services are different than going to soccer practice or getting therapy in an outpatient clinic. When we miss a session in EAS, there are many assets still at stake- volunteer time, scheduling time, getting the horse ready, allocating resources to different places to balance work loads etc.…
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121. An EAS Program to Fill a Need: What is the GAP Program at HETRA?
Learn all about a unique program at HETRA and how it has grown and developed in this episode with Edye Godden, OTR/L, PATH Intl. CTRI and the CEO of HETRA. We wanted a program for our participants that weren’t exactly ready to transition to adaptive riding, but wanted more independence. It could…
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120. Healing from Sexual Abuse: Trauma, Horses and Resilience with Carol Odell
Seasoned psychotherapist Carol Odell's memoir “Girl, Groomed: A Therapist’s Memoir of Trauma” (She Writes Press, April 22, 2025) is an unflinching exploration of her journey to confront and heal from the complex trauma of childhood sexual abuse within the world of Virginia’s equestrian…
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119. When do we Introduce the Bridle for our Participants?
Part of managing our horses physical and mental health during lessons is making sure our participants are prepared for their next jump in horsemanship. Let’s talk about when to introduce the bit and bridle! How do we stay fair to our horses while helping our participants improve their…
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118. What are Fidgets? How do we use them in EAS? with Abi Cross, OTS
In this episode, we dive into the world of fidgets — what they are, why people use them, and how they can support focus, regulation, and sensory needs. Our current occupational therapy student, Abi Cross from Creighton University is here to chat with us about the special considerations to using...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Ever wanted to know more about Equine-Assisted Services (EAS) and Therapies? Join us as we explore the industry. Hear valuable education for instructors & therapists, insight into business strategies, and all the reasons why horses are so impactful for our mental & physical health. This podcast is presented by Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy (HETRA), with over 35 years of experience in the EAS industry.Get all of our resources here: https://notjustaponyride.my.canva.site/linkinbio
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