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Not That Kind of Christian
by Lantern Podcast Network
Not That Kind of Christian is a podcast where tough topics meet heart, hope, and humor. Hosted by David Drury, each episode is an honest, down-to-earth conversation with people who care about living out their faith in the real world. We’ve dumped the outrage and insider jargon. Instead, we want to have thoughtful, relatable dialogue about the questions real Christians are asking right now. It’s a space where faith can hold tension, welcome laughter, and offer practical wisdom for everyday life. If you’ve ever thought, “I’m a Christian… just not that kind,” this is for you.
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S1E17 | Should Christians be using A.I. more, should we be worried, or both? with Kenny Jahng
Greetings listeners! Welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian. In this episode, David Drury and church technology expert Kenny Jahng explore the concept of the use of A.I. as a Christian and in the church. Kenny offers many inghts and guidance throught this discussion on how to view the new age of A.I. as a Christian. We hope you enjoy this conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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S1E16 | What Did the Early Church Really Believe? with Jerome Van Kuiken
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David engages with Dr. Jerome Van Kuiken, a professor of Christian thought, to explore the significance of creeds, the early church, and the relevance of Christian doctrine today. They discuss the importance of understanding the historical context of Christianity, the role of creeds in shaping faith, and the necessity of engaging with Christian thought to navigate contemporary challenges. We hope you are deeply educated by this insightful conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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S1E15 | Key questions Christians answer differently with Steve Lennox
Hello listeners! In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury interviews Dr. Steve Lennox to explore key questions about salvation, including who can be saved, how we can know we are saved, and how fully we can be saved. They discuss theological perspectives, the role of grace, and practical implications for faith and ministry. Enjoy this impactful conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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S1E14 | What Does Church History Have to Say to TikTok Christianity with Miranda Cruz
Hello and welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian. In this episode, David Drury interviews church history professor Miranda Cruz about the impact of social media on faith, the resurgence of old heresies like Gnosticism, and how church history offers hope and guidance for navigating modern faith challenges. We hope you enjoy this conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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S1E13 | One Man's Story of Transformation
Hello and welcome to the Not That Kind of Christian Podcast! This episode features a secret guest, nicknamed "Harold", who shares his transformative journey from a troubled youth involved in substance abuse to a dedicated missionary. Harold recounts his transient childhood in a military family, his struggles with faith during his teenage years, and his eventual awakening to spirituality in college. He discusses his calling to missions, the challenges of living in a Muslim country, and the impact of his experiences on his family. We hope you enjoy listening in on this guest's journey. Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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S1E12 | What Roles Have Women Had in the Church? With Elizabeth Glass Turner
In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David Drury and Elizabeth Glass Turner explore the often overlooked history of women in the church. They discuss compelling stories of women leaders, the historical evidence that challenges the notion that women's leadership is a recent phenomenon, and the cultural shifts that have influenced perceptions of women's roles in ministry. We hope that you are encouraged to embrace a broader perspective on women's leadership in faith communities!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided By: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Many compelling stories of women leaders have been forgotten.Historical evidence shows that women have been preaching for centuries.Cultural and political factors have influenced women's roles in ministry.Understanding local church history can reveal hidden stories of women leaders.Junia is recognized as an apostle in the New Testament.The Holy Spirit has consistently worked through both women and men.Engaging with scripture and history can expand our understanding of women's roles.
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S1E11 | Simple Spiritual Practices with Holly Norton and Dave Horne
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with guests Holly Norton and Dave Horn to explore the significance of spiritual practices in fostering a deeper connection with God. They discuss personal journeys into spiritual formation, the challenges of silence and solitude, and the importance of resisting productivity in favor of a more contemplative approach to faith. The conversation delves into practical tools like Lectio Divina and Centering Prayer, emphasizing the need for lament in spiritual life and offering actionable steps for reconnecting with God amidst the noise of daily life.Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided By: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Spiritual practices should be seen as gifts, not burdens.Silence and solitude can be intimidating but are essential for spiritual growth.Productivity can hinder our connection with God.Noticing our feelings and surroundings enhances our prayer life.Lectio Divina encourages relational intimacy with Scripture.Centering Prayer allows us to rest in God's presence without words.Lament is a vital practice for expressing our grief and struggles to God.A busy life can lead to burnout and disconnection from God.Engaging with nature can help us reconnect with God.Having a spiritual friend or director can provide support in our faith journey.
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S1E10 | Karina Drury on Going Viral: an Insider's Story
In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David Drury interviews his daughter, Karina Drury, who shares her journey as a young influencer navigating the complexities of social media, mental health, and authenticity. Karina discusses her viral moment at 16, her experiences with chronic illness, and how she balances her online presence with her faith. We hope you enjoy!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided By: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Social media can create a false sense of reality and pressure.It's essential to balance personal sharing with privacy.Algorithms can box influencers into specific niches.Mental health is impacted by social media consumption.Faith can be shared authentically without being overbearing.Creating hobbies outside of social media is crucial.
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S1E9 | DRAFT: Cringe Christian Phrases to Retire with Santes Beatty and Amy Boyle
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury, along with guests Santis Beatty and Amy Boyle, engages in a light-hearted yet profound discussion about commonly used Christian phrases that have become clichés. They explore the implications of these phrases, their performative nature, and the need for more authentic communication in faith contexts. Through a draft-style format, they each select phrases they believe should be retired, providing insights into why these phrases can be problematic and suggesting more meaningful alternatives. Enjoy this engaging episode, and share your own phrases in the comments that you would choose to retire!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided By: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Cliché phrases can dilute the authenticity of faith conversations.Performative language often overshadows genuine support.It's important to take responsibility in our expressions of care.Many common phrases can be harmful or misleading.Encouragement should be rooted in relationship, not just words.Being present in someone's pain is more valuableAuthentic communication fosters deeper connections in faith communities.
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S1E8 | The Christian life and Immigrants with Zach Szmara and Carlos Téllez
Greetings Listeners! In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David engages in a deep conversation about immigration, faith, and the experiences of immigrants in the United States. Joined by guests Carlos Deyes and Zach Szmara, the discussion explores the biblical perspective on immigration, the complexities of the immigration system, and the role of the church in providing support and advocacy for immigrants. We hope you enjoy this impactful conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided By: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Immigration is a polarizing issue in American life.Every immigrant's story is unique and complex.Chronic uncertainty is a common experience for many immigrants.The church can play a vital role in supporting immigrants.Understanding the immigration system is crucial for compassion.People first, politics later is a guiding principle.Immigrants can be agents of mission within the church.The immigration system is often a maze with moving walls.Engaging with immigrant stories can foster empathy and understanding.
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S1E7 | Christians and Culture with Yamil Acevedo
Hello and welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian! In this conversation, guest Yamil Acevedo explores the complexities of cultural identity, particularly focusing on his experiences as a Puerto Rican in the United States. He discusses the challenges of being categorized within broader Latino identities and the personal struggles that arise from cultural expectations and differences. We hope you enjoy this discussion with our executive producer!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:There are challenges to cultural identity and expectations in the US.Its essential to understand individual cultural nuancesToo often, it is found that cultures are generalized as groups
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S1E6 | What Should Every Christian Know About Muslims?
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages in a heartfelt conversation with his guests, who have extensive experience living and working among Muslims. They discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes that many Christians hold about Islam, emphasizing the humanity and commonalities shared between Christians and Muslims. We hope you enjoy this conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:Building relationships with Muslims can lead to meaningful conversations.Many Muslims are open to discussing faith and spirituality.Hospitality is a powerful way to connect.Children can bridge cultural gaps and foster friendships.Understanding the concept of unreached people is crucial for missions.Engaging in conversations about Jesus should be done respectfully and thoughtfully.The mission of God is to reach all nations with the gospel.
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S1E5 | DRAFT: The strangest (and funniest) commands in the Bible with Elaine Bernius, Ken Schenck, and John Drury
Hello Listeners! In this entertaining episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David and his guests compete in a draft to have the strangest commands in the bible. Elaine, Ken, and John provide both contextual understanding and humor as they journey through the scriptures to find these commands. Let us know who you think had the best draft!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:- Context of the commands provides clarity for how they apply- The commands set the people apart at the time- The commands find a resolution in the New Testament- Looking back at the commands can still influence how we live today
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S1E4 | What Is the Good Life? with author Josh McNall
Welcome back to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian! In this conversation, Joshua McNall delves into the Hebrew word 'hesed', exploring its multifaceted meanings and implications in the context of love, mercy, humility, and pride. He discusses the challenges of translating this term and its significance in understanding biblical texts. We hope you enjoy!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes:- The Hebrew word 'hesed' encompasses love and mercy.- Different translations use up to 14 English words for 'hesed'.- The semantic range of 'hesed' is broad and complex.- Justice and mercy are not contradictory in Hebrew scriptures.- Micah 6:8 presents a harmonious relationship between justice and mercy.- The interplay of love and mercy is central to biblical theology.- The concept of 'hesed' invites deeper reflection on moral actions.
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S1E3 | The Greatest Injustices in the World Today with Jo Anne Lyon, Nikki Nettleton, and Jenn Peterson
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury and his guests discuss the multifaceted nature of injustice, particularly focusing on poverty, human trafficking, and the role of the gospel in addressing these issues. The guests share personal experiences and insights on how to empower communities and address systemic injustices. We hope you enjoy this discussion!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes: - Injustice is often seen as a political issue, but it is fundamentally a moral and spiritual problem.- Everyone is made in the image of God, which gives them inherent value and rights.- Poverty is not just an economic issue; it is a lack of access to basic needs.- Human trafficking is one of the most urgent injustices of our time, with over 50 million people enslaved globally.- Awareness and education are key in combating human trafficking and other injustices.- The church has a role in advocating for refugees and displaced persons.- Empowerment of individuals is crucial for community transformation.- Greed and power are root causes of many injustices in the world today.- Access to the gospel is a significant injustice that needs to be addressed.
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S1E2 | God at Work with Steve Deneff and Hannah Lindsey
In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with guests Steve DeNeff and Hannah Lindsay to explore the intersection of faith and work. They discuss how Christians can integrate their faith into their daily work lives, the importance of recognizing the people around them, and the power of prayer in the workplace. We hope you enjoy this conversation!Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.Key Notes from the Episode:- Many Christians separate their faith from their work life.- Teaching can be seen as a calling, not just a job.- Prayer can create a sense of belonging in the workplace.- Recognizing coworkers as part of your calling is essential.- Creating a safe space for sharing and prayer is important.- Pastors can equip their congregations to live out their faith at work.- The language of calling can elevate everyday work.- Prayer is a non-threatening way to show love and support.- Everyone has the opportunity to impact others through love.
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S1E1 | How Can We Use Social Media Wisely? with Mark Forrester and Gloria Lopez
Welcome to "Not That Kind of Christian," a podcast that focuses on the heart, hope, and humor of challenging topics. In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with his guests Mark Forrester and Gloria Lopez to explore the complex relationship between social media and faith. They discuss the dual nature of social media as both a tool for connection and a source of anxiety, emphasizing the importance of intentionality and purpose in its use. We hope that you enjoy this conversation as you listen in!Key Notes from the Episode:- Social media plays a crucial role in professional and personal life.- Having a purpose is essential when using social media.- Social media can lead to comparison and pride.- Algorithms can create echo chambers and tribalism.- There are positive opportunities for outreach through social media.- Engaging with followers is key to effective communication.- Diversity in communication is important for reaching broader audiences.- Setting boundaries with social media is necessary for mental health.- Social media can be a tool for spreading hope and the gospel.Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and LanternEdited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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Welcome to the "Not That Kind of Christian" podcast! "Not That Kind of Christian" is a podcast where tough topics meet heart, hope, and humor. Hosted by David Drury, each episode is an honest, down-to-earth conversation with people who care about living out their faith in the real world. We’ve dumped the outrage and insider jargon. Instead, we want to have thoughtful, relatable dialogue about the questions real Christians are asking right now. It’s a space where faith can hold tension, welcome laughter, and offer practical wisdom for everyday life. If you’ve ever thought, “I’m a Christian… just not that kind,” this is for you.Hosted By: David DruryProduced By: Seth Strand and Lantern Edited By: Seth StrandNetwork Provided by: LanternLantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.
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Not That Kind of Christian is a podcast where tough topics meet heart, hope, and humor. Hosted by David Drury, each episode is an honest, down-to-earth conversation with people who care about living out their faith in the real world. We’ve dumped the outrage and insider jargon. Instead, we want to have thoughtful, relatable dialogue about the questions real Christians are asking right now. It’s a space where faith can hold tension, welcome laughter, and offer practical wisdom for everyday life. If you’ve ever thought, “I’m a Christian… just not that kind,” this is for you.
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