Episodes
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The Idol of Political Power
In this episode, Pastors Bayly and Von Hagen provide an overview of populist political movements in Germany, the United States, and other regions. They lament that Christians are going along with the growing resentment, bitterness, nativism, and "opposition to other" of these movements. In our...
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Leadership when lives are at stake
"If you do not use enough force soon enough, you will have to use too much force later on." This maxim holds not just for law enforcement officers but for any man who wields authority and bears responsibility for others: pastors, church officers, husbands, and fathers, to name a few. We are all...
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Loving America
Andrew Henry returns to the podcast, joining Pastor Tim Bayly to discuss why they are thankful for the United States of America and what the need of the day is for Christians living in her. They discuss the American Revolution and its messy complexity; John Adams; the desire for simplistic...
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Joel & Judy Linton: Church Planting in Taiwan (Part 2)
This episode wraps up the conversation between Tim, Joel, Judy, and Mulu. The Lintons describe the amazing Sundays their church family spends together, which run from the crack of dawn until the night. Their ministry is “organic,” focusing on making disciples of Jesus Christ who go beyond the...
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Joel & Judy Linton: Church Planting in Taiwan
Joel and Judy Linton, missionaries and church planters in Yilan County, Taiwan, join Pastor Tim Bayly again. Their conversation will continue in the next episode. During this session, Joel, Judy, and Tim discuss the conversion and discipleship of a particular family that has become a central…
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Joel & Judy Linton: Christianity in Taiwan
Joel and Judy Linton, missionaries and church planters in Yilan County, Taiwan, join Pastor Tim Bayly. Judy recounts the immense suffering her family endured at the hands of political operatives by Chiang Kai-shek. She shares her own harrowing experience of being stabbed by an assassin and her...
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Pacifism, Military Conscription, and American Hegemony
Jürgen von Hagen, pastor and former professor of economics at the University of Bonn, again joins OOOM to discuss pacifism, military conscription, and the impact of global economics on the spread of democracy around the world. How should Christians serve their governments during times of war? How...
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Immigration: Who Is My Neighbor?
We are all in the habit of putting obedience to God on a shelf when our political commitments come into play. We refuse to acknowledge the way our political affiliations corrupt our obedience. Few things expose this tragic truth more than our contempt for immigrants and sojourners. Young men,...
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Fatherhood & Authority
Even the most conservative churches today are filled with rebellion against authority. Why? Because we have lost the doctrine of the Fatherhood of God. As fatherhood died, so the fear of God has died, and so authority has died. Having lost the doctrine of God's Fatherhood, we simplistically…
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Putting Off Conflict
All history is a history of warfare. Christians understand that history is the outworking of man's Fall. Another fruit of the Fall is that man always tends to avoid conflict, hoping the issues will resolve themselves. Pastors and elders in the church must first be convinced that there will always...
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The Great Feminization
Pastor Tim and Andrew Henry discuss Helen Andrews' article "The Great Feminization," in which she presents this thesis: "Wokeness is not a new ideology, an outgrowth of Marxism, or a result of post-Obama disillusionment. It is simply feminine patterns of behavior applied to institutions where…
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Men finding things hard
Links, in order of their mention on the podcast: Helen Andrews, "The Great Feminization," Compact, October 16, 2025. *** Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church. Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in...
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The Hills We Choose
Links, in order of their mention on the podcast: Kierkegaard parable Andrew cites: From the Journal: Empty Nutshells ...God would be loved. Therefore He wants Christians. To love God is to be a Christian...Now "man's" knavish interest consists in creating millions and millions of Christians, the...
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Is Charlie Kirk a Christian Martyr?
Tim, Jürgen, and Andrew address the following questions in light of the murder of Charlie Kirk last week: Is Charlie Kirk a Christian martyr? What should be the Christian's response to Charlie Kirk's murder? Was Charlie Kirk's view of the 2nd Amendment righteous? What has the betrayal of…
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Can we trust the government?
Tim, Andrew, and Jürgen cover various topics, including government subsidies for farming, the role of government in the economy, and the influence of political ideologies on institutions like the Federal Reserve and the CDC. The podcast also touches on the importance of trade for peace, the...
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Conflict
Key points from this episode: • Factionalism in the Church: Acknowledging the presence of division within the church and its potential benefits as an “immune system,” while also expressing a desire to avoid unnecessary factionalism. • Historical Perspective on Holiness Movements: Discussing…
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Church seasons, finances, & dill cucumbers
Tim and Andrew discuss the ups and downs—pastorally and financially—of the church year. Along the way, they cover the science of fasteners (nylok bolts and nuts), the death of expertise, quangos, creating a peaceful climate in a church to protect the sheep, disciplining the rich and the poor,...
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A Dialogue with Amathés
Tim and Andrew discuss Jacob Gonzales's "A Dialogue with Amathés: On Laws and Magistrates." Memes, audio books, Bible translation issues, NASB95's footnotes, God's Fatherhood, male semantic meaning components, Christian nationalism, and associated issues are discussed. *** Out of Our Minds…
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Leaving Home
Sarah Dionne joined Tim and Mary Lee to discuss: How should parents relate to their adult children who are leaving the home (children generally between the ages of 17 and 22)? There are many books teaching parents how to care for toddlers and teenagers, but fewer about what to do with adult...
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Warfare and drones
The point of warfare is to kill and win, but the means to that end must be considered. The bloodlust of mankind is seldom, if ever, suppressed at the point of considering some advantage. Then again, warfare has been a history of unfair advantages through technological innovation hidden from the...
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The Family Table
The family meal: We set the table not only with food but also with conversation and leadership. Efficiency is not the priority of the day. We must slow down, guide the conversation, even after a long day at work. Time at the family dinner table serves as a microcosm of life. A father must concern...
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No Enemies to the Right (NETTR)
The internet is a balkanization of the populace: Everybody finds those they want to listen to. It is exceedingly difficult to teach somebody whose principal input in his life is through the internet. With a flesh-and-blood pastor, you at least can see his sins, his wife, and his children....
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Tariffs, Trade, & Global Economy with Jürgen von Hagen
***Live Zoom videoconference with Jürgen and Tim will take place on Tuesday, April 29, at 2 p.m. ET.*** Jürgen von Hagen leads a discussion on tariffs, trade, and global economics. NOTE: This episode is best listened to with THESE GRAPHS pulled up on your device. Also discussed: Trump's tariff...
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Tesla, Elon Musk, and Political Violence
Not All Tesla is Tesla. What Tesla means to people has shifted drastically. It’s a shibboleth in our culture. From the darling of the green left to the “Swasticar,” you're now considered a villain if you drive a Tesla, particularly a Cybertruck. We don’t understand Elon Musk until we get a grip…
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Advocating for Devil's Advocacy
What is the origin of the "devil's advocate"? What are the benefits of assigning someone to that role? It has been noted in Scottish Presbyterian polity that a unanimous decision has not been sufficiently debated. In other words, either the issue was trivial, the presbyters were apathetic, or no...
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Motherhood Today: A Discussion of Pakaluk's Hannah's Children
Pastor Tim is joined by his wife (Mary Lee) and their three daughters (Heather, Michal, & Hannah). They discuss Catherine Ruth Pakaluk's recent book Hannah's Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth. The book serves as a launching point for discussing the joys and troubles of...
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Be Fruitful and Multiply, and Fill the Earth
Jürgen von Hagen joins Tim Bayly to discuss fruitfulness, natalism, and fertility demographics. From Malthus to Erlich to many contemporaries—for over two centuries—the prophets of doom have pleaded with mankind to abandon fruitfulness to survive. Modern man—and the Christian church—has only been...
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VP Vance's Speech in Germany
Rev. Dr. Jürgen Von Hagen joined Tim and Andrew to discuss European culture and international relations. Last week, US Vice President Vance gave a speech at the Munich Security Conference—a meeting of top European military leaders, diplomats, and government officials. Vance's speech was a shock…
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Heirlooms and Traditions
So often we attempt to be aspirational in the setting of traditions in our families. What does that mean? It means we work hard to build traditions meant to project to others the "perfection" of our marriages, our childrearing, and our homesteads. Rather than cave to the pressure to portray the...
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Fire & Church Reform
Los Angeles burns and fire policy in California is exposed. Accountability and reformation ought to come. What can we learn about church reform from wildfires and fire policy? It is common for pastors to be punished when the fire of the Holy Spirit begins to burn. Fire ought to be allowed…
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The Power of Victimhood
The most powerful man today is the man who has the best case for being a victim. Young men intuitively know this reality and are thereby inclined to victimhood. In every narrative about their lives, they portray themselves as victims. Conversely, real manhood is about taking responsibility and...
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AI Summaries & False Prophets
Halloween candy and rhubarb pie Lithium batteries and Tesla fires An AI podcast summary of Evangel Presbytery’s book, Abortion and the Church. Twentieth-century growth in bloodshed Worldwide population decline Desensitized to life, death, and abortion GoPro videos, movies, and bloodshed Men and...
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The witness and work of University of Bonn Vice-rector, Pastor Juergen Von Hagen: with discussion of German Christian Nationalism under Third Reich
From Pulitzer Center: “Germans Thought They Were Immune to Nationalism After Confronting Their Nazi Past. They Were Wrong” Tim Bayly interviews Jürgen von Hagen on Christian nationalism, exploring its historical roots within the Lutheran Church during the Nazi regime. They discuss Toby Von…
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Higher Education and Your Children
Pastors Tim and Juergen discuss the latter’s education in Germany and his move to the United States to teach economics at Indiana University’s (now named) Kelley School of Business. Juergen recounts how he and his wife, Ilsa, came to faith through the witness and compassion of members of Grace...
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Against Human Flourishing
Around 1980, people around the world began speaking of "human flourishing." In 2000, the frequency of the phrase's use in media flourished exponentially. Be suspicious of new words and phrases taking the world by storm. As Chesterton said, before you take a fence down you must determine why it…
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Help for the New School Year
Pastor Tim and Andrew reflect on one of the significant reset points in our year: the beginning of the new school year. The free-ranging discussion includes the following topics: How do you send your children off in the morning? The utility of school uniforms How to remove some decisions from…
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Eat a Peach! (Fruitfulness & God's Creation Mandates)
We have failed to teach our children and our culture the creation mandates: "God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth'"...
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Holding on to your kids, discipline, and authority
In this episode, Pastor Tim Bayly is joined by his son, Joseph (Senior Pastor at Christ Church in Cincinnati), and son-in-law, Lucas Weeks (College and Administrative Pastor at Trinity Reformed Church in Bloomington, IN) to discuss parenting. We often think that our parenting is a failure if we...
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The Debate & The Assassination Attempt
History changes very quickly. Read the book of Esther. We've witnessed numerous surprising and sobering changes in the past two weeks. The performance of President Biden during the debate makes us question who allowed for (or orchestrated) such a sad spectacle. What if an assassin's bullet had...
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Thinking as a Christian (not a partisan)
It must be understood that the Christian faith is never owned by any king or any party. A constant temptation of Christians is to be programmed by personalities. Rather than taking cheap, easy, stupid, and faithless shortcuts, we ought to be taught how to think. Primarily and tragically, we…
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Money at Church: supporting God's men, hucksters, endowments, the stingy rich, and living by faith
The people of God know how to justify generosity toward themselves and stinginess toward the church and her shepherds. The Lord rebukes His people for such sin through the prophet Haggai: "Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, 'Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in…
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Ukraine & Geopolitics (Follow-up), Christian Nationalism, and More
Jürgen Von Hagen and Tim Bayly return to the studio and do some follow-up work on the war in Ukraine. Then they cover numerous other geopolitical, economic, and societal issues: Is America an empire Letters from listeners Milton Friedman and the welfare state Immigration and skilled/unskilled…
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Ukraine, Putin, and Geopolitics
Rev. Dr. Jürgen von Hagen, the senior pastor of Free Evangelical Church in Mülheim an der Ruhr, Germany, and professor of economics at the University of Bonn, Germany, joins Rev. Bayly at the Michigan house for a free-ranging conversation on Ukraine, Putin, German church history, the European...
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Money at Home: marital conflict, stewardship, family size, education, marital freedom
Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church. Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at...
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A Few Good Men
Parachurch ministries, political causes, and entrepreneurial enterprises seduce good men away from giving their lives to the Church and her pastoral work. How do we attract young men to the work of the Church during the formative years of their lives? College professors successfully shape their...
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The Presumptuous Parachurch
The parachurch was an innovation of entrepreneurially-minded Christians during the twentieth century. They considered the Church to be old and in the way. Efficiency was the gospel need of the day, so cumbersome mechanisms like denominations, ordination, and church discipline were bypassed.…
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Food Fight
There are very few places as divisive in today's church as the potluck lunch. When visitors come to our churches we are likely to hear them proclaim about their food orthodoxy before they say anything about their theology or church background. Tim and Andrew offer some helpful commentary about…
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Tenth Presbyterian Church: What to learn about privacy and hiding abuse
The sins of abusers are heinous, but the sins of those who cover the sins of abusers are more heinous. For more on the scandal of Tenth Presbyterian Church, read this series on Warhorn Media. Scott Manetsch, Calvin's Company of Pastors: Pastoral Care and the Emerging Reformed Church. Richard…
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How Silently, How Silently
This is a special Christmas episode of Out of Our Minds Podcast. It is a recording of "How Silently, How Silently, a parable about Jesus arriving in Wheaton on December 23rd, in a snowstorm. The story is found in Bayly,'s The Gospel Blimp (and other parables. Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors who...
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Children and danger (Part 2)
Andrew Henry, Tim & Mary Lee Bayly continue their conversation on children and danger, turning in this episode to speak of the dangers of sexual sin. How do we keep our children safe from sexual predators? How do we stay vigilant and responsive, doing the necessary work of protecting the...
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