Payne Points of Wealth
by Ryan Payne
Welcome to the Payne Points of Wealth: The podcast that addresses all the pain points that come with creating your wealth, growing your wealth, and sustaining your wealth. Hosted by the Family Wealth Experts of Payne Capital Management, Bob, Ryan & Chris Payne. On a weekly basis, they deliver timely strategies and solutions for the pain points that come with building, preserving and managing your wealth.
Episodes
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Why a Bull Market is About to Erupt (And What to Buy Now)
Could the next leg of the bull market come from the stocks investors have been overlooking? With the midterms behind us, Ryan Payne, Bob Payne, Chris Payne and Courtney Garcia make the case that rising earnings, easing rates and a rally spreading beyond the Magnificent Seven could set the stage…
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Is AI Killing or Saving the Economy? (Jobs, Stock Bubble, & Healthcare)
Will artificial intelligence destroy millions of jobs—or unlock the next wave of economic growth? On this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, entrepreneur and author Vivek Wadhwa joins the team for a spirited debate about AI’s impact on jobs, investing, healthcare, and the future of the U.S....
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How Top Entrepreneurs Spot Opportunities Before Everyone Else
How do successful entrepreneurs find opportunities everyone else overlooks? They start by asking better questions—and listening to the people who actually have the problem. On this episode of **Payne Points of Wealth**, Bob, Ryan, and Chris Payne welcome **Dr. Shalabh Gupta**, founder and CEO of...
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Why Voters Feel Broke in a “Strong” Economy
Why does a “strong” economy still feel so expensive? Slower inflation doesn’t erase years of higher prices—and voters are feeling the squeeze. On this week’s Payne Points of Wealth, political commentator and former Wall Street analyst Liz Peek joins Bob, Ryan, and Chris Payne to discuss the...
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Why Are People Spending Like Crazy if the Economy Is So Bad?
Americans say the economy feels terrible—but they’re still booking vacations, renovating homes, and packing stores. Why is there such a disconnect between consumer confidence and consumer spending? On this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan Payne, Bob Payne, Chris Payne, and Courtney Garcia...
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Why High Interest Rates Signal a Booming Economy
Barron’s reporter Jacob Sonenshine joins us for this episode of the Payne Points of Wealth to debate what’s driving Treasury yields higher, why stocks have remained resilient, and whether AI earnings expectations are becoming too optimistic. We explore opportunities in financials and medical...
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The AI Boom Is Changing The Energy Debate
Is AI creating an alternative energy boom? As data centers drive up electricity demand, the U.S. needs more power, a stronger grid, and faster ways to build both. Ryan and Chris Payne sit down with Chris Johnson, president of the American Energy Leadership Institute, to discuss why nuclear,...
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Is Your Portfolio Prepared for a Bear Market?
Markets are falling, the Federal Reserve is raising interest rates, the 10-year Treasury is near 5%, and inflation remains stubborn. Is this another short-term correction—or the beginning of a bear market? In this episode, we explain how investors can prepare without abandoning their long-term...
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The New Investing Rules That Build You Wealth
For more than a decade, investors were rewarded for following a simple playbook: favor U.S. stocks, lean heavily into technology, depend on low interest rates, and buy every dip. But the economic environment that made those strategies so successful has fundamentally changed. Ryan, Bob, and Chris...
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Higher Inflation is Coming - How to Protect Your Money | Ep. 250
Interest rates are climbing, inflation remains stubborn, and America’s national debt has reached $40 trillion. Should investors be worried—or are rates simply returning to historical norms? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan Payne, Bob Payne, Chris Payne, and Courtney Garcia discuss...
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AI Mania 2.0: How Much Further Can This Run? | Ep. 249
AI valuations are soaring, semiconductor stocks are surging again, and investors are asking the inevitable question: How much longer can this bull market run? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, and Chris compare today’s AI-driven rally with the late-1990s tech boom. They…
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Death of the 60/40 Portfolio? | Ep #248
Is the market falling apart—or is money simply rotating? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney explain why semiconductor stocks and the Magnificent Seven are struggling while energy, commodities, value stocks, REITs, international stocks, and emerging markets...
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AI, Private Credit, and the Return of Easy Money with Brooks Cutright, Portfolio Manager at Hedgeye Asset Management | Ep #247
The AI trade just suffered a major semiconductor sell-off—but is this the beginning of the end, or a buying opportunity inside a long-term bull market? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth with Brooks Cutright, Portfolio Manager at Hedgeye Asset Management, we uncover the hidden forces…
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The Market Is Hitting Record Highs Despite Bad Headlines | Ep. 246
The headlines say one thing. The market is saying something very different. In this episode of *Payne Points of Wealth*, Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney break down why investors may be missing some of the strongest opportunities in the market right now. While everyone is focused on AI, crypto, and...
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From $86M in Debt to a $1.5B empire- This Mining CEO Says NOW Is the Time to Buy Silver.
When we sat down with Paul Andre Huet, CEO of America’s Gold and Silver, for our latest Payne Points of Wealth episode, one theme became clear: The demand story for silver is evolving and expanding. Let’s break it down in simple terms. 1. Electrification of the Economy Silver is one of the best...
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The Nuclear Comeback with James Walker, CEO, Nano Nuclear Energy
Everyone is talking about artificial intelligence right now. But almost no one is asking the most important question: Where is all the power going to come from? AI data centers are incredibly energy-intensive. The infrastructure being built to support this technology is going to require massive,...
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The Next Big Investment Opportunity
There’s a massive story unfolding right now that almost nobody is talking about, and it has nothing to do with AI stocks, semiconductors, or the Magnificent 7. It’s about the raw materials underneath everything. In our latest episode of Payne Points of Wealth, I sat down with Gary Evans, CEO of...
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Will NYC Real Estate Crash??? The Truth about High Rates & the Mamdani Tax …
What does it really take to rise from humble beginnings to representing some of the wealthiest buyers and sellers in the world? In Episode 242 of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan and Chris sit down with Noble Black, one of the nation’s top real estate professionals as recognized by The Wall Street...
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She Was Inside the White House on 9/11—And Chose to Stay
In Episode 241 of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan, Chris, and Bob Payne sit down with Ashley Davis, partner at S‑3 Group and former White House insider, to unpack a remarkable career at the highest levels of government. Ashley shares how she went from a young staffer to employee #1 of the White…
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From Valedictorian to FOX News — Todd Piro on Money, Mindset & Making It | Ep #240
What do discipline, delayed gratification, and a few well-worn undershirts have to do with success? This week on Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan and Chris Payne sit down with Todd Piro, co-host of FOX & Friends First, for a real conversation about his journey growing up in New Jersey to national...
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The Most Important Market You’re Not Watching (And Why China Has the Upper Hand) | Ep#239
What if the next global power struggle isn’t about oil—but about the elements inside your smartphone, electric vehicle, and AI infrastructure? In this episode, we sit down with Barbara Humpton, CEO of USA Rare Earth, former CEO of Siemens USA, to break down one of the most overlooked—and...
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Inside Fidelity — The Johnson Dynasty and the Company That Changed American Investing | Ep#238
In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, we sit down with veteran journalist Justin Baer, Deputy Markets Editor for The Wall Street Journal and author of the new book House of Fidelity: The Rise of the Johnson Dynasty and the Company That Changed American Investing. Justin takes us deep inside...
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Strait of Hormuz, Geopolitical Tensions, Markets Keep Rising… What’s Going On?!
Oil headlines are everywhere, geopolitical tensions are rising, and yet markets keep grinding higher. So, what’s really going on? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan, Bob, and Chris unpack why oil prices are falling even as global conflict dominates the news and what markets are...
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War, Oil at $110, and Why the Market Is Rotating Under Your Feet.
Markets are on edge. Oil has surged past $110 a barrel, geopolitical tensions are escalating, and investors are asking the same question: Is this the start of something bigger—and should I change my portfolio? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, and Chris Payne break down what’s...
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High Yields. Locked‑Up Money. Big Regrets. Wall Street's Latest Illusion. | Ep#235
The last two weeks on Wall Street have been anything but quiet. Oil prices have swung wildly, headlines are dominated by conflict in the Middle East, and cracks are starting to show in parts of the private credit market that were once sold as “safe” alternatives. In this episode, Ryan, Bob, and...
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Markets, Missiles, and Misconceptions | Ep#234
The World Feels Like It’s on Fire… So Why Is the Market Only Down 1%? In this episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan and Chris have a wide-ranging, fast‑paced conversation on what really matters when markets get rattled. With geopolitical tensions flaring in Iran, markets briefly sold...
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Gold, Silver, Small Caps & the Case for Contrarian Investing | with Bob Killen
In this wide-ranging and thought-provoking episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan & Chris Payne sit down with legendary small-cap value investor Bob Killen, who brings more than 60 years of market experience to the table. The conversation kicks off with a timely debate on gold and silver,...
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The New American Mining Revolution: Silver, Antimony & U.S. Independence with Gary Evans & Paul Huet
In Episode 232 of the Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan and Chris Payne sit down with two industry heavyweights leading the charge in America’s critical minerals resurgence: Gary Evans, Chairman & CEO of United States Antimony Corporation (UAMY), and Paul Huet, Chairman & CEO of Americas Gold and…
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2026 Market Shock: Adam Johnson Predicts a 20% Drop and a Massive Rally?
In this week’s episode, we sit down with Adam Johnson, Portfolio Manager of the Bullseye American Ingenuity Fund and author of the widely followed Bullseye Brief. Adam brings his signature 1980’s Wall St. energy as we dive deep into current market dynamics, the power (and pitfalls) of short...
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Building Tech for the 42 Million Americans Silicon Valley Forgot
In this inspiring episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan sits down with Jimmy Chen—founder and CEO of Propel, the groundbreaking fintech company modernizing America’s social safety net and serving millions of low‑income families each month. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from arriving…
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From Tom Ford to Global Style Icon: The Rise of Aleks Musika | Ep#229
In this episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan and Chris Payne sit down with Aleks Musika — renowned menswear designer and Co‑Founder of luxury label Musika New York. Aleks shares how a childhood fascination with style set him on a path that led from working in retail to joining the Tom Ford...
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Markets were great in 2025—but that may be the problem.
2025 was a stellar year for investors—but will the same playbook work in 2026? In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan Payne, Bob, Chris, and special guest Aaron Dessen kick off the new year by reflecting on an unexpected, across‑the‑board winning year in markets—and then pivot to what...
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The “Ozempic Portfolio”: Leverage & FOMO! | Ep#227
Markets are printing fresh highs, yet some investors are getting crushed—how does that happen? In this roundtable, Ryan Payne, Bob Payne, Courtney Garcia, and Frankie Lagrotteria break down a real case of a couple in their late 50s whose “do‑anything‑to-go-faster” portfolio relied on leverage and...
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From Yale Law to Barbershop Tech | Ep. 226
In this episode of Payne Points of Wealth, we sit down with Songe LaRon, a dynamic New York City tech entrepreneur, Co-Founder and CEO of SQUIRE Technologies—the world’s leading all-in-one barbershop business management system. Songe shares his remarkable journey from growing up in Manhattan with...
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The Investing Dilemma: Why Chasing AI Could Derail Your Wealth
Is the AI Bubble Finally Here??? The Roundtable We Needed In episode 225 of the Payne Points of Wealth, Ryan, Bob, and Chris tackle one of the most fundamental—and often overlooked—principles of investing: diversification. Why do so many investors ignore this simple rule and chase the hottest...
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How a 25-Year-Old Immigrant’s Startup is Changing U.S. Immigration
In this week’s episode, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney sit down with Mihailo Bozic, a dynamic 25-year-old entrepreneur whose journey from Australia to New York City embodies the classic immigrant founder story. With Serbian roots and a background in Finance and Economics from the University of Western...
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Is the AI Bubble Finally Here??? The Roundtable We Needed
All right, all right, all right—this week, it’s just the Payne Capital crew, no guests, no filters, just real talk. After a string of great interviews, we’re bringing it back to the roundtable to tackle the question everyone’s asking: Are we in an artificial intelligence bubble? Bob dives into...
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The Human Edge in a Tech-Driven Economy
In this week’s episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, and Chris sit down with Sara Uy, the dynamic 28-year-old founder of SellingSara, a New York-based sales training program. Together, they unpack the shifting landscape of the job market, the rise of AI in hiring, and why soft skills...
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From Texas Oil Fields to Critical Minerals – The Wild Ride of Gary Evans
In this electrifying episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, and Chris sit down with Gary C. Evans, a serial entrepreneur and the current Chairman & CEO of United States Antimony Corporation (USAC). Gary shares his rollercoaster journey from the high-stakes world of Texas oil to leading...
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The Fed, Tariffs & Trump — A Financial Balancing Act with Tiana Lowe-Doescher
This week on the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney are joined by Washington Examiner columnist and sharp political commentator Tiana Lowe-Doescher for a deep dive into the complex intersection of politics and financial markets. We explore the Trump administration’s push to...
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Is The Labor Market Really Softening? Plus, Should You Trust Private Investments with Your Retirement?
This week on Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney dive into the evolving dynamics of the U.S. labor market. Despite predictions of a slowdown, companies are hesitant to lay off workers—even as hiring remains sluggish. Is this a sign of economic weakness, or are deeper…
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Rate Cuts, Record Highs & Hidden Bull Markets | Ep. 218
In this week’s episode, Bob, Ryan & Chris dive into the Federal Reserve’s latest interest rate cut. Was it a necessary move to support a slowing economy—or is Jerome Powell just spiking the punch bowl? With all major U.S. stock markets sitting at all-time highs, the trio debates whether investors...
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Why Warren Buffett Is Betting on Dividends While Everyone Else Chases Hype Ep#217
In this week’s episode, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney dive into the paradox of modern investing: why are so many investors chasing assets like Gold, Bitcoin, and Nvidia, which offer little to no income—while ignoring the historical power of dividend-paying stocks? We unpack a revealing JP Morgan…
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Episode 216: Climbing a Wonderwall of Worry — Oasis, Interest Rates & the Rise of the Retail Investor
This week on Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney unpack what Ryan’s recent trip to MetLife Stadium to see his favorite band, Oasis, reveals about the current state of the economy. Yes, even a rock concert can be an economic indicator! We dive into Fed Chair Jerome Powell’s...
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Common Sense Capitalism with John Catsimatidis Jr. Ep#215
Common Sense Capitalism with John Catsimatidis Jr. In this week’s episode of Payne Points of Wealth, we sit down with John A. Catsimatidis Jr., President and COO of Red Apple Group, a $7 billion powerhouse spanning energy, supermarkets, media, real estate, and investments. In a wide-ranging...
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Wall St.’s Retirement Shake-Up: Game-Changer or Fee Frenzy? Is Inflation Ready to Surge or Just Hype?
In this week’s episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris, & Courtney dive into President Donald Trump’s controversial new executive order that opens the door for private equity, venture capital, and hedge funds to be included in your retirement account. Is this a golden opportunity…
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Tariffs, Rate Cuts & Bitcoin on the Balance Sheet—What Could Go Wrong?
This week on the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, and Chris dive into Trump’s reign of tariffs, unpacking the economic ripple effects of his aggressive import tax strategy. From business impacts to what it means for your wallet and investments, we break down the real-world consequences of the...
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Last of the Vietnam Warriors: From War to a Life Fulfilled
An estimated 3 million Americans served in combat during the Vietnam War. Today, only about 725,000 of these brave individuals remain with us. Vietnam is etched in American history as a brutal and costly conflict—one where many young men and women answered the call to serve our country with...
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Demystifying Estate Planning with Kelly Zerillo
In Episode of 211 of the Payne Points of Wealth, Bob, Ryan, Chris & Frankie sit down with top estate planner Kelly Zerillo to break down everything you need to know about putting together your estate documents in light of the Big Beautiful Act. Whether it's your first time drafting legal…
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The Elon Musk Political Party, Big Beautiful Deficit, Tariffs Pushed Back AGAIN
In this episode of the Payne Points of Wealth, join Bob, Ryan, Chris, and Courtney as they dive into the latest buzz in American politics—the new political party proposed by none other than Elon Musk. Is this the dawn of a new political era, or is Musk simply expressing frustration over rampant...
About this show
Welcome to the Payne Points of Wealth: The podcast that addresses all the pain points that come with creating your wealth, growing your wealth, and sustaining your wealth. Hosted by the Family Wealth Experts of Payne Capital Management, Bob, Ryan & Chris Payne. On a weekly basis, they deliver timely strategies and solutions for the pain points that come with building, preserving and managing your wealth.
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Ryan Payne