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Real Estate for Breakfast

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“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, and insights on emerging trends—all at the intersection of real estate business and law. Phil leverages his experience as both a licensed attorney and real estate managing broker in Illinois to translate complex issues into engaging discussions about real estate, business, and life.McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we

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Episodes

  1. Economy Extended Stay: The Undersupplied Opportunity, With Michael Nielson

    Economy extended stay is a real estate niche most people have never thought about. Michael Nielson, founder and CEO of West 77 Partners and LivAway Suites, left his family's 20,000-unit multifamily business to build a vertically integrated platform focused on economy extended stay — a category he...

  2. The Data Center Revolution, with Greg Riegle and Chris Lloyd

    Everyone is talking about Data Centers. Recently, host Phil Coover mentioned that he was doing a podcast about data centers. “Do you think that this data center thing is a big bubble?” someone asked. “No,” he replied. “That implies that the demand will somehow go away, causing it to pop. This...

  3. When Great Minds and Believers Collaborate: Chicago’s Metropolis Pointe, with JC Griffin and Jim Rylowicz

    An innovative mixed-use development in Chicago’s Bronzeville neighborhood is being led by a collaboration of “great minds” and a “family that believes in a greater Chicago.” That’s how JC Griffin explains Metropolis Pointe. The family that believes is his family-governed Griffin Venture Group.…

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  4. Guiding Office Tenants in Today’s Challenging Market, with Melissa Copley

    Drawing on extensive experience navigating major shifts in the commercial real estate market, Melissa Copley reflects on her practice with McGuireWoods partner and host Phil Coover. Now vice chairman at Newmark in Chicago, where she represents large tenants of office space in major metropolitan...

  5. When You Construct Buildings and Build Relationships, with John Slaten

    Slaten Construction is a “service company for building relationships,” explains founder and CEO John Slaten. And because building relationships is a core value, the company enjoys repeat business from customers with projects ranging from a $400 million data center to a $50,000 office remodel. In...

  6. From Single-Family Homes to 200-Unit High-Rise, with Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis

    Tandem has built an impressive portfolio scaling from single-family homes to a 200-unit high-rise in Chicago's competitive market. To explain why Crain’s took notice with a recent article about the firm, co-founders Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis share their remarkable journey with host Phil...

  7. Private Equity's Secret Weapon: Real Estate Arbitrage, with Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe

    What if you could turn your real estate into a money-making machine while keeping your business running exactly where it is? Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe of Stream Capital Partners have mastered the art of sale leaseback arbitrage, helping private equity firms unlock millions from…

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  8. Alternative Investment Strategies: Accessing Institutional-Grade Opportunities, with Chris Burns

    "I'm an advisor for alternative investments," explains Chris Burns about how he connects individual investors with institutional-grade opportunities. The founder of Quema Capital and a broker-dealer with Great Point Capital in Chicago, Chris specializes in helping investors access real estate...

  9. Chicago's Premier Neighborhoods: The 100-Unit Sweet Spot, with Matt Katsaros

    “Underwriting in Chicago is, I think, a bit easier than a lot of other markets,” says Matt Katsaros, founder of Wildwood Investments, adding, “Especially when you're local and you know the players, you can quantify risk a little bit easier.” Matt knows the players. Wildwood Investments has carved…

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  10. Reaching New Heights in Multi-Family Real Estate with Joe Smazal

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phil Coover, sits down for a conversation with Joe Smazal, Senior Managing Partner at Interra Realty. Joe brings more than a decade of experience specializing in the sale of mid-market...

  11. Chicago Industrial Real Estate with David Haigh of NAI Hiffman

    We’re back with another episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast. Ice Miller partner and host, Phil Coover sits down with David Haigh, Executive Vice President and Principal with NAI Hiffman, a full-service, privately owned commercial real estate brokerage and management company. Phil and...

  12. Chicago Office Challenges and Opportunities with Matt Pistorio

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phil Coover sits down with Matt Pistorio, principal at R2 Companies, a privately-held, fully integrated real estate investment and development firm, and founder of Madison Rose, a real...

  13. Green is Green —The Economic Case for Clean Energy in Real Estate Projects with Chris Gersch

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, host Phil Coover interviews Chris Gersch, the founder and CEO of Verde Solutions (Verde). Verde is a full-service consulting firm utilizing a sensible approach to renewable energy, primarily focusing on building, financing, and engineering...

  14. ESG in Commercial Real Estate with Sarah Cannella of Hiffman National

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller partner Phil Coover interviews Sarah Cannella, Director of Property Management Operations for Hiffman National, which is the asset management arm of the privately owned, commercial real estate and management firm. During their...

  15. What’s Next? Foreseeing the Drive and Demand in an Ever-Changing Real Estate Landscape with Jon McCulloch, CEO of Belgravia Group

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller partner Phil Coover interviews Jon McCulloch, CEO of Belgravia Group, an award-winning Chicago based real estate developer, that has provided quality homes and real estate services to clients for 75 years. During their...

  16. Office Space: An Alarming Situation and the Coming Wall of Maturity -- with Alissa Adler of Colliers

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phillip Coover welcomes Alissa Adler, Senior Vice President at Colliers, a global real estate services firm. During the podcast, Alissa and Phil discuss serious distress in the office...

  17. Beds, Sheds and Mixed-Use Property Development with Peter Kelly and Dan Reidy of Lincoln Property Company Midwest

    In this edition of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller partners, host Phil Coover and co-host Jay Augustyn, welcome Peter Kelly and Daniel Reidy of Lincoln Property Company Midwest (LPC Midwest). The foursome talks about real estate development and trends, specifically in the…

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  18. The Complexities of the Cannabis Industry and Real Estate with Chris Fotopoulos and Sam Harmelech of Verano Holdings

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, host Phil Coover chats with Chris Fotopoulos (EVP of Legal, Real Estate, and Risk), and Sam Harmelech, of Verano Holdings - a multi-state cannabis operator headquartered in Illinois, harvesting six brands and 120 retail dispensaries in 13...

  19. Integrated Design with Kapil Khanna, CEO of Lamar Johnson Collaborative

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and guest Kapil Khanna, CEO of Lamar Johnson Collaborative (LJC), discuss some of the design challenges that the architecture firm faces in a changing world. As part of an integrated design practice with its parent company, Clayco, a...

  20. The Multifamily Housing Market in Chicago, the Importance of Market Research and the “Next West Loop” with Jon Morgan of Interra Realty

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by a fellow champion of Chicago, Jon Morgan. Jon is co-founder and managing principal of Chicago-based Interra Realty, and he and Phil begin their conversation by discussing Interra’s formation to its emergence as a...

  21. Real Estate Development Strategy in a Changing Market and Avoiding “the Dumb Tax,” with Chris Coleman of Wingspan Development Group

    Vice President of Development for Wingspan Development Group Chris Coleman says that the privately owned real estate company is more of a “developer with a general contractor in-house,” than a traditional developer. That vertical integration gives Wingspan a differentiator in the market.…

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  22. Environmental Mitigation and Ecological Offset Markets with Mark Bernstein of Magnolia Land Partners

    Magnolia aims to balance the needs of economic development with the important task of preserving our world's most valuable natural resources. On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover talks environmental mitigation (that is mitigation with an “M”, not an “L”), and the…

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  23. Decades of Chicago Development with Mike Drew of Structured Development

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by Mike Drew, a founding principal of Structured Development, a Chicago-based real estate company. Phil and Mike discuss the history of Structured Development, including the company’s recent shift toward developing projects…

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  24. Creating a Positive and Growth Minded Company Culture with Nicole White – CLO of Avison Young

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by his colleague and guest co-host LaTonya Ellis, and his former law school classmate, Nicole White, the newly appointed Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary at Avison Young. Avison Young is a full service global real...

  25. Metaverse Real Estate with Colin Laitner of Metis Capital

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by his good friend, Colin Laitner, principal of Metis Capital, and General Counsel of Deeter Investments, based in Austin, Texas. During an engaging discussion, Phil and Colin examine the topic of Metaverse real estate –…

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  26. Multifamily Real Estate, Equity Investment and the “Karma Economy” with Nick Earls and Eric DiNicola of Winterspring Capital

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Nick Earls and Eric DiNicola, co-founders of Winterspring Capital. Phil and Jay sit down with Nick and Eric to discuss the pair’s 20-year friendship and how they successfully developed a business...

  27. Debt Financing and Life Companies with Mark Perkowski of Draper and Kramer, Incorporated

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Mark Perkowski, a Vice President in Draper and Kramer, Incorporated’s Commercial Finance Group. On the podcast, Phil and Mark discuss the process of debt placement and financing for all types...

  28. 1031 Exchanges, Conservationism, DSTs, and More with Dan Wagner of Inland Real Estate Group of Companies, Inc.

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by Dan Wagner, senior vice president of government relations at The Inland Real Estate Group of Companies, Inc. (Inland). During the episode, Phil and Dan discuss the history of Inland, the numerous benefits of 1031 like…

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  29. Multifamily Housing with Matt Fiascone of The Habitat Company

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by guest co-host Tyler Kalachnik, a partner in Ice Miller’s Public Finance Group, and featured guest Matt Fiascone, President of The Habitat Company. In recognition of The Habitat Company’s 50th year in business anniversary,...

  30. Medtail and Tenant Rep National Brokerage with Willie Hoag of Tether Advisors

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his frequent co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Willie Hoag, Principal and Co-Founder of Tether Advisors, a real estate advisory company founded in August 2020 during the tumult of the global pandemic. Tether Advisors works with...

  31. Private Equity Real Estate with Dave Seymour of Freedom Venture Investments

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by CEO of Freedom Venture Investments, Dave Seymour. On this extremely entertaining episode, Phil and Dave discuss private equity real estate investing in the lower-middle market in Florida and challenges and opportunities…

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  32. Sustainable Chicago Real Estate with Cotter Consulting

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by two guests from Cotter Consulting, Founder and President Anne Cotter and Group Manager Deeta Bernstein, to talk sustainability, which is an important and growing characteristic of real estate development. Phil and Anne...

  33. Industrial Real Estate Market Analysis with Joe Moriarty of Dayton Street Partners

    Today on Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by Joe Moriarty of Dayton Street Partners LLC (Dayton Street), a commercial real estate investment and development firm focused on the acquisition and development of high barrier to entry infill…

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  34. Cultivating Relationships and Innovation in Real Estate with Stream Realty Partners

    In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, host Phil Coover and co-host Jay Augustyn are joined by another dynamic duo, Patrick Russo and Brian Duffy of Stream Realty Partners (Stream), a full-service real estate platform representing clients in connection with the investment,...

  35. Investing in Hospitality with Highline Hospitality Partners

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover, joined by co-host Jay Augustyn, chats with Todd Roffman and Jordan Scheiman of Highline Hospitality Partners (HHP), a family office platform focusing on investments in hospitality assets throughout the United States. On the podcast,...

  36. Building-For-Rent in Chicago with Steel City Management

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover and his co-host Jay Augustyn chat with Brett Holmes and Andrew Dealy, co-founders and managing partners of Steel City Management (SCM), a Chicago-based boutique investment company that develops and manages real estate projects for…

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  37. The State of Chicago’s Multifamily Market in 2021 with Noah Birk and Aaron Sklar, Kiser Group Partners

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by Noah Birk and Aaron Sklar, partners with the Kiser Group and two of the highest-grossing brokers of multifamily housing in Chicago. Phil, Noah and Aaron discuss the state of the multi-family market in 2021, as well as how...

  38. Constructing Chicago's Skyline During COVID-19 with Michael Meagher, President of James McHugh Construction Company

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by President of James McHugh Construction Company Michael Meagher. Many of the buildings that make up the Chicago skyline were constructed by McHugh, including the Vista Tower, which is now the third tallest building in...

  39. Design Led-Design Build Construction with Mark Wight, CEO of Wight & Company

    On this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover chats with Mark Wight, Chairman and CEO of Wight & Company, about the intricacies and challenges of architectural design and construction and the efficiencies to the client of a vertically integrated design-led firm that handles…

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  40. Diversity and Inclusion in CRE with Walker & Dunlop's Jason Golub

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover discusses diversity and inclusion with colleague and Ice Miller Practice Group Director LaTonya Ellis and Walker & Dunlop Vice President of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Jason Golub. The guests discuss the topics of diversity and...

  41. Chicago Real Estate and Sale-Leasebacks with Marcus & Millichap's David Bradley

    In this episode, host Phil Coover welcomes Marcus & Millichap Regional Manager David Bradley to discuss commercial real estate investment brokerage and financing services in the Chicago market. Phil and David specifically discuss the mechanics of sale-leaseback transactions and how these...

  42. The Hospitality Industry and COVID-19 with Scarlett Hotel Group

    In this episode, host Phil Coover and Jay Augustyn of Ice Miller LLP are joined by Zio Pekovic and Rob Sadoff of Scarlett Hotel Group, a hotel owner and operator based in Chicago, to discuss the hospitality industry and its challenges in the face of COVID-19. Despite these challenges, Scarlett...

  43. The Fulton East Project by Parkside Realty, Inc. Chairman and CEO Bob Wislow

    In the latest episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by living Chicago real estate legend Bob Wislow. Phil and Bob discuss the properties managed and developed by Parkside Realty throughout Chicago, including the ground-up development of Fulton East – a 12 story…

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  44. Charlton Hamer, Senior VP of Habitat Affordable Group, on Affordable Housing and The Habitat Company

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, host Phil Coover is joined by Senior Vice President of the Habitat Affordable Group, Charlton Hamer. Phil and Charlton discuss the affordable housing sector of the commercial real estate market, including development, funding and property management…

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  45. Willy Walker, CEO of Walker & Dunlop, on Capital Markets During COVID-19

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, Willy Walker, chairman and chief executive officer of publicly traded Walker & Dunlop, joins host Phil Coover to discuss the capital markets and the impact of the Great Recession and COVID-19 on that industry, as well as Walker and Dunlop’s explosive...

  46. Raising Equity in a COVID-19 World with Jay Soave and Matthew Burskey of Cadence Capital Partners LLC

    In this episode, host Phil Coover is joined by Jay Soave and Matthew Burskey of Cadence Capital Partners LLC and Jay Augustyn of Ice Miller LLP. The Cadence team shares its approach to raising equity and placing debt for sponsors and developers to facilitate their real estate projects. Cadence...

  47. Tenant Needs in a Post-Pandemic World with Christian Beaudoin, JLL Managing Director of Research and Strategy

    In this episode, host Phil Coover is joined by JLL Managing Director of Research and Strategy Christian Beaudoin and Ice Miller partner Jay Augustyn. As we all know, COVID-19 has caused an abrupt shift in workplace operations, many of which may have a lasting impact on how we work. For example…

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  48. The Return to Work During COVID-19 with Antonia Cardone of Cushman & Wakefield

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, Antonia Cardone, Americas Lead of Total Workplace for Cushman & Wakefield, joins Phil to discuss the return to work following the COVID-19 pandemic and stay-at-home restrictions. Cushman & Wakefield has helped numerous businesses return to work in…

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  49. COVID-19 Stimulus and Relief Packages with Brian Crist and Josh Christie of Ice Miller LLP

    In this episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, Phil is joined by two of his Ice Miller colleagues: partner Brian Crist and partner Josh Christie. Phil, Brian and Josh discuss the ongoing economic impact of COVID-19 across a variety of sectors and the hot topics surrounding stimulus and relief...

  50. COVID-19 and the Impact on Commercial Real Estate Market with Spencer Levy, Chairman of Americas Research for CBRE and Senior Economic Advisor for CBRE

    In this emergency episode of Real Estate for Breakfast, Phil has Spencer Levy, Chairman of Americas Research and Senior Economic Advisor for CBRE, to discuss the imminent recession and COVID-19’s impact on the commercial real estate markets. In the past week, entire cities (San Francisco), bars…

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“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, and insights on emerging trends—all at the intersection of real estate business and law. Phil leverages his experience as both a licensed attorney and real estate managing broker in Illinois to translate complex issues into engaging discussions about real estate, business, and life.McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we

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