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Recovery Lab
by Normalizing Recovery
We are here to normalize recovery.
Episodes
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Episode #152: Gregory Greer Returns | Souldrama, Breathwork & the Journey to Healing
On this episode of Recovery Lab, Daniel Anderson, Brynn Knox, and David Sugg welcome Gregory Greer back to the studio for his second visit. We’re especially grateful to Gregory for making the drive from Louisiana to spend the day with us. Gregory is the Director of Clinical Services at Red Hill...
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Episode 151: Radio Bob: Behind the Mic and Beyond Addiction
Tonight on Recovery Lab, Daniel Anderson, David Sugg, and Brynn Knox welcome a familiar voice in Mississippi broadcasting, the one and only “Radio Bob” Sullender! With decades of experience in radio, including more than 10 years as General Manager of SuperTalk Mississippi’s WFMN 97.3, Radio Bob…
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Episode #150: Experience, Strength & Hope | Mary Jane Williams
Today on Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Mary Jane Williams to Audio Alchemy Studios for a conversation about recovery, resilience, and the life that can be found on the other side of addiction. Mary Jane shares her experience, strength, and hope, reflecting on...
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Episode #149: From Surviving to Living: Ron Permenter’s Story
In Episode 149 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson, and David Sugg sit down with Ron Permenter for a wide-ranging conversation about recovery, life, and the road that brought him to where he is today. Ron opens up about his journey through addiction and recovery, the experiences that...
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Episode #148: A New Chapter in Recovery Leadership | Ruth Ann Rigby
In Episode 148 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David, Brynn, and Daniel welcome Ruth Ann Rigby back to the Audio Alchemy Studios to talk about her new consulting endeavor, Rigby Consulting, LLC, and the next chapter of her work in behavioral health, crisis navigation, recovery, and community...
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Episode #147: Keeping the Doors Open at Yana Club
The Yana Club has been the heart of recovery in Jackson, Mississippi for nearly 50 years, providing thousands of alcoholics and addicts with a safe place to attend meetings, find sponsors, build friendships, and begin a new way of life. In Episode 147 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, Daniel Anderson...
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Episode #146: Cordie Rodenbaugh & Renee Clements | Parker, Mason, and the Walk for Lives
On this powerful episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn, Daniel, and David sit down with Cordie Rodenbaugh and Renee Clements, two mothers carrying unimaginable grief and turning it into action. Cordie shares the story of her son, Parker, whose death led to the creation of Parker’s Law, legislation...
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Episode #143: Healing Without Words with Stephanie Hathorn
In Episode #143 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson welcome Stephanie Hathorne, a therapist with The Shepherd’s Staff and founder of Broken Branch Equine Assisted Psychotherapy in Mount Olive, Mississippi. Stephanie shares her personal journey through anxiety,...
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Episode #142: Darryl Brown on Addiction, Recovery, Leadership, and Finding Purpose Again
On episode 142 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Darryl Brown into the Audio Alchemy Studios from Dallas, Texas for an honest and deeply inspiring conversation about addiction, recovery, leadership, and transformation. Darryl Brown is a strategic...
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Episode #141: From Survival to Service with Jordan Butler
In Episode 141 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson welcome Jordan Butler for an honest and powerful conversation about addiction, relationship with food challenges, recovery, community, and what it looks like when survival turns into service. Jordan shares how...
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Episode #140: The 12 Steps for Normies, What Recovery Actually Looks Like
What are the 12 steps, really, and why do people in recovery talk about them like their lives depend on them? In Episode #140 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson break down the 12 steps in plain language for people who may not be in addiction recovery themselves, but want...
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Episode #139 - Kirk Hartley, (Part 2): Grief, Grace, Marriage, and Long-Term Sobriety
In Episode 139 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg and Brynn Knox welcome back Kirk Hartley for part 2 of his powerful story. If you missed part 1, go back and listen to Episode 136 first. In this deeply moving conversation, Kirk shares what it looked like to walk through unimaginable loss...
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Episode #138 - Harbor House
In Episode 138 of Recovery Lab, David Sugg sits down with Dedria Black, Executive Director of Harbor House Chemical Dependency Services, Jacqueline Lampley, Assistant Executive Director, and Chris Bates for a powerful conversation about the real work of recovery in Mississippi. With Brynn at home...
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Episode #137 - From Northeast Jackson to New Life: Daniel Phyfer on Shame, Surrender, and Showing Up
Welcome back to The Recovery Lab, where we dive deep into the struggles, victories, and hope that stem from recovery: no shame, no judgment, just truth, grace, and inspiration. On Episode 137, it’s just Brynn and Daniel in the studio today, as David Sugg is out sick. Feel better soon, brother....
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Episode 136 (PART 1): From “Garden Variety Drunk” to Recovery Advocate with Kirk Hartley
On part 1 of episode 136 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Kirk Hartley to the Audio Alchemy studios for a heartfelt and honest conversation about long term sobriety and service. Kirk humbly describes himself as “just an ole garden variety drunk and...
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Episode #135, A Heart to Serve: Paxton Peters and the Front Lines of Recovery in Jackson, MS
On Episode #135 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with someone who quietly carries an enormous impact in the Jackson recovery community, Paxton Peters. As the office manager of Jackson Mississippi’s AA Central Office, Paxton has been a steady voice…
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Episode #134: Reaching the Next Generation, Healing Trauma and Addiction with Hall Ratcliffe of Capstone Wellness
In this episode of Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Hall Ratcliffe, Marketing Outreach Director at Capstone Wellness, a treatment center dedicated to adolescents and young adults ages 14 to 28. Together, they dive into the unique challenges today’s young...
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Episode #133: From Surviving to Living, Healing Trauma, Addiction, and Finding Real Freedom with Jessica Chapman Lott, LCSW
What if recovery wasn’t just about getting by, but about finally living a life you don’t feel the need to escape from? In Episode 133 of Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with therapist Jessica Chapman Lott, LCSW, for a powerful and compassionate conversation…
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Episode 132: Looking Back and Moving Forward
In this Recovery Lab conversation, David Sugg, Brynn Knox and Daniel Anderson reflect on their highs, lows and lessons of 2025. David celebrates 16 years of sobriety, and the group talks openly about what growth, challenges and community support looked like over the past year. They also share the...
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Episode #131 - Finding Balance: Jay Carr on Recovery, Movement, and Mind-Body Awareness
In episode number 131 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Mississippi native Jay Carr to explore his remarkable journey of recovery and self-awareness. Jay brings a singer’s approach to fitness, wellness, and efficiency of movement. With...
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Episode #130 - Strength That Lasts: Performance, Recovery and Meaning with Jordan Jones
In episode 130, David Sugg and Daniel Anderson sit down with Jordan Jones, Founder and CEO of Holos. With 20 years of service as a Special Forces Medical Sergeant, Jordan has seen firsthand how high-stress environments shape and strain the mind, body and spirit. Today, he works with military...
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Episode #128: From Settlement to Solutions Rep Sam Creekmore on Opioid Funds, Ibogaine, and Serving Our Heroes
Daniel Anderson and David Sugg welcome Mississippi State Representative Sam Creekmore to Recovery Lab for a candid and forward looking conversation about mental health and addiction in Mississippi. Rep Creekmore shares what is actually happening with the state’s opioid settlement money, how it is...
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Episode #127: Exploring Ketamine Treatment for Depression with Dr. Mark Hrymoc
In episode 127 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Dr. Mark Hrymoc to explore his experience treating individuals suffering from depression using ketamine. The conversation dives into the science, patient experiences, and evolving...
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Episode 126: Breaking Free with Gregory Greer
In this episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson, and David Sugg sit down with Gregory Greer, Clinical Director and primary counselor at Red Hill Recovery. Gregory has dedicated his life to helping people break free from alcoholism, addiction, and codependent relationships...
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Episode 125: Detaching with Love - Chris and Bob
Today on Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Chris and Bob. Their son, Nick, was featured in Episode 124, and in this heartfelt conversation, the couple share what it’s like on the other side of a loved one’s addiction. They open up about the profound impact...
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Episode 124: From Prison to Purpose - Nick Spradley's Drive for Sobriety, Support, and Shower Power
In this power-packed episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Nick Spradley, the dynamic Director of Shower Power in Jackson, Mississippi. Nick shares a riveting journey from the depths of incarceration to a thriving path of long-term sobriety, fueled by...
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Episode 123: Opening Access to Ibogaine - A Conversation with Bryan Hubbard, CEO of Americans for Ibogaine
In this episode, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Bryan Hubbard, the inaugural CEO of Americans for Ibogaine, to explore his mission to expand education, access, and responsible pathways for ibogaine as a potential therapeutic option for brain injuries, substance…
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Episode 122 - From Tragedy to Mission: Kim and Richard Johnson’s Fight Against Fentanyl
In this heartfelt episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Kim and Richard Johnson. Three years ago, they lost their daughter to fentanyl poisoning, a tragedy that forever changed their lives. Kim and Richard share how their grief has...
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Episode 121: The Unlikely Executive: From Dope and Despair to Leadership and Legacy with Jeremiah Wheeler
In Episode 121 hosts Brynn Knox David Sugg and Daniel Anderson sit down with Jeremiah Wheeler to dive into his powerful new book, The Unlikely Executive: From Dope and Despair to Leadership and Legacy. Jeremiah opens up about the lowest chapters of his life, the turning points that sparked…
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Episode 120: From Rock Bottom to Restaurant Icon: Jeff Good on Recovery, Grit, and Building Mississippi’s Best
This week, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with the incredible Jeff Good for a powerful, no-fluff conversation about recovery, redemption, and entrepreneurship. Jeff opens up about the battles that nearly broke him, the breakthrough that changed everything, and how he...
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Episode #119 - Recovery and the Badge: Inside the Minds of Rankin County Deputies
In episode 119 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Rankin County Deputy Tony Shack for a powerful conversation on recovery through the eyes of law enforcement. Together, they explore how officers witness the daily struggles of addiction, the role...
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Episode 117 - From ICU to Influence: Don Horn on Recovery, Leadership, and Community Impact
In this episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David and Daniel sit down with Donald “Don” Horn, a respected Nurse Manager III at the University of Mississippi Medical Center and a rising TikTok influencer. With a deep-rooted passion for service, Don has become a pillar in Mississippi’s recovery...
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Episode #116: Finding Presence in the Process with Erin Polzin
Tonight on the Recovery Lab, Brynn, David, and Daniel sit down with Erin Polzin, a mother of three, dedicated community connector, and vital member of the Fleet Feet team. Erin shares her honest journey through early sobriety, how she once went through the motions of recovery, and how that…
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Episode 115: Celebrating Resilience with Malcolm White
In this inspiring episode of the Recovery Lab, hosts Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Malcolm White, a true Mississippi icon whose life story goes far beyond recovery from alcohol. Malcolm is a celebrated entrepreneur, cultural ambassador, and community builder known for...
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Episode #114: Celebrating Strength and Sobriety with Amanda Gilmer
Join David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson as they welcome inspiring guest Amanda Gilmer. With five years of continuous sobriety, Amanda shares her incredible journey, insights as a peer support specialist at Magnolia Recovery, and the powerful lessons she’s learned along the way. This...
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Episode #113: Teenagers & Pornography Addiction - Featuring Raymond Kennedy and Kevin Armstrong
In this episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with counselors Raymond Kennedy and Kevin Armstrong to tackle one of the most urgent and sensitive topics—social media and the rise of pornography addiction among teenagers today. Don’t miss out on this...
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Episode #112: From Darkness to Strength — Erin Rees’s Inspiring Comeback
Today, David, Brynn, and Daniel sit down with Erin Rees, a coach, a survivor, and a woman who’s turned her biggest struggles into her greatest strengths. She is joined by her husband / business partner at Crossfit Comeback, Adam Rees. Erin shares her heartfelt journey—from her love of sports and...
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Episode #111: The Power of Commitment — Making the 12-Step Promises Come True
In this episode, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson explore how the 12-step promises truly come to fruition when you commit to the process. Join the crew as they share inspiring stories and insights on the transformative power of putting in the work. Whether you're just starting your...
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Episode #110, Unfiltered Recovery: A Real Talk Session with Christie O’Bryant
In this episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Christie O’Bryant for a wide-ranging and unfiltered conversation about the realities of recovery. From emotional healing to the power of community, Christie opens up about her journey with...
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Episode 109: Ruth Ann Rigby on Serving with Purpose
In this inspiring episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, host Brynn Knox sits down with Ruth Ann Rigby—Chief Development Officer at Capstone Wellness and a true titan in the world of behavioral health and addiction recovery. With 26 years in recovery and over two decades of leadership, Ruth Ann...
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Episode #108: Unlocking Your True Self with Joe Bielling
Join Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson in this powerful episode as they sit down with Licensed Professional Counselor Associate and Certified Level 3 IFS Practitioner Joe Bielling. Discover how understanding the mind through Internal Family Systems (IFS) can help you heal from past wounds, break…
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Episode #107: Healing Beyond the Mind with Zed Thompson
In this episode, Drew Hassin, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with the renowned therapist Zed Thompson of Thompson Psychotherapy. Zed brings a holistic approach to trauma and mental health, blending somatic and psychological techniques to facilitate deep healing and transformation. As a...
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Episode 106 | Easter Reset: Cold Plunges, Saunas & the Power of Recovery with Chris Valentine
In this special Easter wellness episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, we sit down with Chris Valentine—owner of Rest Recovery Wellness JXN and Green Heart Wellness in Fondren—for a revitalizing conversation on physical and emotional recovery. “You know we go to the gym; we tear our bodies up in…
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Episode 105 – When the High Wasn’t the Problem: Escaping Yourself with Brynn Knox
In this eye-opening episode of The Recovery Lab Podcast, the guys sit down with Brynn Knox to explore a truth that many in recovery eventually face: the substance wasn’t the real problem—it was just the escape hatch. Together, they dive deep into the emotional roots of addiction: self-avoidance,...
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Episode 104: Unveiling the YANA Club - A Pillar of Jackson's Recovery Community
In Episode 104 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Drew Hassin, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with two remarkable guests to explore the YANA Club of Mississippi, a vital part of Jackson's recovery community for nearly half a century. Discover how the YANA Club creates a nurturing...
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Episode 103: Vicki DeMoney on Empowering Women Post-Incarceration | HEAL, HOPE, HELP at Crossroads Ministries
Join hosts Drew Hassin and David Sugg (with special guest co-host Jordan Butler stepping in while Drew away!) for a powerful episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast as they welcome Vicki DeMoney, the executive director from Crossroads Ministries—a 501(c)3 non-profit celebrating 10 years of…
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Episode 102: Finding Balance in Sobriety with Radio Bob
Join hosts Drew Hassin, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson in Episode #102 of the Recovery Lab Podcast as they sit down with Bob Sullender, affectionately known as Radio Bob. As the General Manager of SuperTalk Mississippi and a passionate recovery advocate, Bob shares his inspiring journey to...
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Episode 101 – Sobriety Behind the Bar: Kodie Mann on Staying Sober in the Service Industry | The Recovery Lab Podcast
In Episode 101 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Drew Hassin, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Kodie Mann, a local service industry legend, to discuss the challenges of staying sober while managing a bar. Kodie shares her journey of maintaining sobriety in a high-risk environment,...
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Episode #100: A Journey of Redemption with Georgia Sloan
Join us for a landmark episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast as we celebrate our 100th episode! Drew, Daniel, and David sit down with the inspiring Georgia Sloan. Her powerful story of redemption is one that will resonate with you and leave a lasting impact. Don’t miss this incredible opportunity…
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Episode 99: Empowering Recovery with Jody Penton of Magnolia Recovery & Wellness Foundation
In this episode of Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Drew Hassin, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Jody Penton, founding member of Magnolia Recovery & Wellness Foundation (MRWF). MRWF is dedicated to empowering individuals facing substance use disorders, co-occurring disorders, and mental...
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