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Relational Practice: a social work podcast
by Jodie Park and Rose Mackey
Social Workers and practitioners, ever feel like you're alone in your struggles? Join us for a podcast that feels like a conversation with friends. We combine storytelling, humour, empathy, and a healthy dose of education to share practical advice. Dr Jodie Park and Rose Mackey, two private social work practitioners with 45 years of experience between them, are your co-hosts for this podcast. They'll be bringing all that experience to the practice conversations.
Episodes
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Behind the Mask: Relational Strategies for Connecting with Boys
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey welcome back Dr. Adam McCormick, Professor of Social Work at St. Edward’s University, trauma expert, and author, for an in-depth conversation on reframing how practitioners connect with boys....
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Secure Bases and Office Dynamics: what our attachment style looks like in the workplace
Ever wondered why a supervisor’s quick "got a second?" sends one co-worker into a full-blown existential crisis, while another completely ignores the email? It turns out our early attachment templates follow us straight through the office doors and sit right at our desks! In this episode of...
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The Quiet Wound: Understanding Abandonment Trauma
Ever wonder why a delayed text message or a slight shift in tone can send an adult's nervous system into absolute freefall? It's because the body never forgets the quiet relational ruptures of childhood. In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose...
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Hurt People Help People
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey sit down for a deeply honest conversation with Dr. Adam McCormick, Professor of Social Work at St. Edward's University and author of Healing the Helping Professional: The Unfinished Business of...
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Fences That Work: Navigating Relationships with the Right Boundaries
Let’s dismantle the most common misconception in social work: that boundaries are about keeping people out. Boundaries aren't about building fortresses; they are about managing the gate. In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, private practice social workers Dr Jodie Park…
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Memory & Trauma: How the Brain Holds What Hurts
Why can trauma make a memory from decades ago feel like it happened yesterday, while wiping other events out entirely? In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, private practice social workers Dr Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive into the neurobiology of trauma and memory. They...
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The empathy map: navigating cognitive, emotional and compassionate empathy
"We were taught to be empathic. Nobody taught us what to do when it starts to hurt." Think of a client whose story has stayed with you, one you’ve carried home, or that found its way into your sleep. That isn't a sign that something went wrong. That is empathy doing exactly what it was designed…
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Aggression: Instrumental vs. Reactive, why the Distinction Matters
Trigger Warning: This episode contains detailed discussions regarding aggression, violence, and antisocial behaviour. We recognize this content may be distressing, so please prioritize your well-being while listening. Aggression is a topic that sits at the very heart of social work practice, yet…
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Dissociation: What Is It and Why Does It Matter in Practice?
💡 How confident do you feel responding when a client dissociates mid-session? Dissociation is everywhere in our caseloads, yet so many practitioners feel unsure about what it actually is, how to assess for it, and how to safely respond in the room. In this episode of Relational Practice: A…
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Self -harm: Moving Beyond Fear and Stigma
Trigger Warning: This episode contains detailed discussions about self-harm (non-suicidal self-injury). We recognize this content may be distressing. Please prioritize your well-being while listening. Discovering that a young person may be hurting themselves often triggers a level of fear and...
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Co-Regulating the Frontline: Why We Need a "Rose" for Every "Jodie"
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey go beyond the catch-all term of "stress" to explore the specific psychological injuries that social workers sustain on the front lines. We often feel that our exhaustion is a personal failure, but today…
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Relationship First: The Key to Safe DV Disclosure
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey are joined by Professor Joanne Spangaro, a distinguished researcher and academic leader whose career is defined by a deep commitment to addressing gender-based violence (GBV). With a professional journey...
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Permission to be Human: Moving from Blame to Systems Thinking
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey tackle the heavy weight of professional fallibility. We often feel that because we work with human lives, we aren’t allowed the luxury of being human ourselves, leading to those 3:00 AM "mistake loops"…
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The Mirror and the Rearview: Navigating Reflection and Reflexivity in Social Work
In social work, we are often taught to "reflect" on our practice, but there is a deeper, more transformational layer called reflexivity. In this episode, Jodie and Rose break down these two distinct but interconnected methods for professional growth. Using the analogy of the Rearview Mirror...
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The Silent Dialogue: Why What Isn't Said Matters Most
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive deep into the most essential tool in a practitioner’s toolkit: the art of truly hearing what isn't being said. They are joined by Ross Judd, an expert in communication and organizational...
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The High Price of Being "Good": Appeasement as a Survival Strategy
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey explore a strategy often mistaken for kindness or "being an easy person," but which actually carries a high psychological price tag: Appeasement. We examine this issue through a multi-lens theoretical...
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Interrupting the Timeline: A Social Work Briefing on Lethality
In this heavy but essential episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey confront the "national crisis" of domestic violence and the predictable patterns that lead to intimate partner homicide. Moving beyond media narratives that describe these tragedies…
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High Pressure, High Stakes: Peeling Back the Curtain on Birth Family Contact
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive into the complex world of supervised birth family contact. Moving beyond the idea that supervision is a passive task, this discussion explores the high-stakes clinical skills required to…
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Parenting in a Glass House: The difference between Public and Private Parenting
What happens to parenting when the "private" family unit becomes a "public" system? In this episode, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey explore the "Glass House" of foster care, a space where personal lives are visible to the state and parental autonomy is reshaped by systemic oversight. We’re moving...
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The Wound of Connection: Navigating Relational and Complex Trauma
In this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive deep into the intricate world of Complex Trauma (C-PTSD). Unlike traditional PTSD, which often stems from a single acute event, complex trauma results from prolonged, repeated experiences—often…
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Coercive Control: A Social Work Deep Dive
Trigger alert- there is a small amount of swearing in this episode. It is an emotive topic for us! A Critical, Timely Deep Dive for Professionals and the Community We understand it’s the Christmas period, and this is a heavy topic. But we also know that for many people navigating high-conflict...
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The body really does keep score: Trauma, Regulation and the Nervous System
"Stop asking, 'What is wrong with you?' Start asking, 'What happened to you?' In our new episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive deep into applying a Trauma Lens to Emotional and Behavioural Regulation. Think about an Iceberg: the behaviour you…
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Trauma-Informed or Trauma-Ignoring? Bridging Policy and Practice for Child Safety in Family Violence Cases
In this critical episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, we centre the social work imperative: closing the harmful gap between progressive legal policy and inconsistent judicial practice in family violence matters. We tackle the tension where the legislative shift toward safety…
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SURVIVAL MODE: Unpacking the DMM to Crack the Code of Trauma Strategies
It's time for a radical reframe: stop seeing complex behaviours as "disorganization" and start recognizing them as brilliant strategies for survival. This week, Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive into the Dynamic-Maturational Model (DMM), an advanced attachment framework that explains how trauma...
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Unpacking Social Work: Your Q&A with Dr. Jodie Park & Rose Mackey
Join Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey for a special Q&A episode where they tackle your most pressing questions about the complex world of social work. In this insightful and essential discussion, Jodie and Rose pull back the curtain on the profession, addressing: The Biggest Misconception: What is...
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Why Our Bodies Talk: A Social Worker's Guide to Polyvagal Theory
Ever wondered what’s really going on when a client shuts down in a session? Or why a seemingly calm conversation can suddenly feel tense? This episode of Relational Practice dives into the powerful framework of Polyvagal Theory, a game-changer for social workers. Join hosts Dr. Jodie Park and…
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Holding Space for Grief: A Relational Approach
On this episode of Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast, hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey dive into the profound role social workers play in supporting people through grief and loss. They approach this topic from a holistic, "person-in-environment" perspective, providing a practical and...
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When Loss Isn't Final: Ambiguous Loss in Social Work
Join hosts Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey as they dive into the complex world of ambiguous loss, a type of grief that social workers often encounter but may not have a name for. In this episode of "Relational Practice," they're joined by special guest Dr. Kenny Kor, a leading expert on the topic....
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The Emotional Demands: A Frank Discussion on Social Work Resilience
On this episode of Relational Practice, we explore the crucial topic of practitioner resilience. We challenge the myth of the "superhero" social worker and instead, frame resilience as a skill that can be developed. The episode defines resilience not as a personal trait, but as the ability to…
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Beyond the Glossy Brochure: A Frank Discussion on Critical Reflection
You know that feeling when you're listening to a podcast and you need a dictionary just to understand the title? In this episode of Relational Practice, we're tackling a topic that often gets buried in academic jargon: critical reflection. We'll talk about why over-the-top language can be so...
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Nature Meets Nurture: Temperament and the Power of Socialization
Have you ever found yourself wondering why some clients adapt to new situations with ease, while others seem to struggle immensely? In this episode, we're diving deep into two fundamental, lifelong processes that shape every individual's development, from childhood through adulthood: temperament...
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Kinship Care: Public Parenting in a Private Family
Join us as we unpack kinship care, a vital arrangement where children who can't live with their biological parents are raised by relatives or close community members. You'll learn why this is Australia's preferred out-of-home care solution and how it aligns with the Child Placement Principle.…
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More Than Just a Home: The Demands of Foster Care & Assessment
Join Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey, private practice social workers in NSW, Australia, as they delve into the critical topic of foster care assessment on this episode of "Relational Practice: A Social Work Podcast". This discussion explores the nuances of assessing foster carers' capacity,...
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From Theory to Practice: Demystifying Formal Parenting Capacity Assessments
Join Rose Mackey and Jodie Park for a vital and in-depth discussion that demystifies formal parenting capacity assessments. They'll answer the questions you've always had: Why are these crucial evaluations conducted, and what do they truly involve? In this episode, Rose and Jodie explore the...
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Beyond the Checklist: Unpacking Informal Parenting Capacity Assessments
Hey there, social workers! Tune in to Relational Practice with Dr. Jodie Park and Rose Mackey as they keep digging into how we assess parenting capacity. This episode, " Beyond the Checklist: Unpacking Informal Parenting Capacity Assessments" is all about the super important role of those daily...
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More Than Just Parenting: Essential Assessment Skills for All Fields
Ever wonder what truly makes a capable parent? Join us in this foundational episode as we delve into the fascinating world of parenting capacity. While essential for child and family practitioners, the insights we uncover are universally valuable, focusing on the core skills of assessment. Forget...
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Risky Business: a deep dive into professional judgement
What role does professional judgment play in your social work practice? We are tackling this crucial topic on the next episode of Relational Practice: a social work podcast, out now. Join us for a thought-provoking and insightful conversation! Don’t forget to send your practice stories or podcast...
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Connected Practice: Supervision and Colleagues
Join Rose and Jodie for an insightful conversation diving deep into the world of supervision! We'll explore: Supervision in all its forms: From those everyday informal chats that keep us connected to the structure of formal sessions that guide our growth. The power of connection: Discover how...
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Beyond the Surface: Attachment and your practice (Part 2)
Alright, get ready for round two of our deep dive into attachment! This time, we're getting super practical and showing you some real-world tricks to truly get how your clients' past relationships are shaping them now. Think of it as unlocking a whole new level of understanding! Just a heads-up...
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Beyond the Surface: Attachment and your practice (Part 1)
Join us for part 1 of our deep dive into the world of attachment with our latest podcast episode! We start to explore the fascinating science behind attachment, unravelling the concept of internal working models and the diverse spectrum of attachment styles. Discover how adopting an attachment…
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Whose Power is it Anyway? Role Clarity and the Social Workers Dilemma
Let's talk POWER in social work! It's a word we use a lot, but what does it really mean in our daily practice? In our latest episode, we're getting personal, sharing our own experiences and grappling with the complexities of power dynamics. How do we actually empower others? How do we balance...
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Why would anyone want to listen to an episode about social work professionalism?
In this podcast, we'll talk about professionalism not from a social work education position, but from the perspective of how a client might see you, or how you might see yourself. We'll challenge you to consider how a client might know you are professional. What might this mean to them? For...
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Hey, welcome to our podcast
In this episode, we'll introduce ourselves, share what our podcast is all about, and give you a sneak peek of what you can expect to hear. We're here to talk about social work practice from the ground up. This isn't a podcast where we'll always say the right things, but we'll focus on discussing...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Social Workers and practitioners, ever feel like you're alone in your struggles? Join us for a podcast that feels like a conversation with friends. We combine storytelling, humour, empathy, and a healthy dose of education to share practical advice.
Dr Jodie Park and Rose Mackey, two private social work practitioners with 45 years of experience between them, are your co-hosts for this podcast. They'll be bringing all that experience to the practice conversations.
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