Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST
by Jason Clark
Rethinking God with Tacos is hosted by Jason Clark and friends who are discovering that God is like Jesus—God is love, and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding. Just friends who really like tacos, talking with amazing guests, rethinking. Join us.
Episodes
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John Crowder & C. Baxter Kruger / The Father, the Fire, and the End of Separation
Recorded live at the 2026 Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion, with plenty of laughter and a room full of honest questions, Jason Clark and co-host Derek Turner join C. Baxter Kruger and John Crowder for a wide-ranging conversation about the love of God—and the beliefs that keep us from…
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Jesudian Silvester & Gary Grant / Fully Known, Fully Loved, Fully Free
Jason sits down in Australia with Jesudian Silvester and Gary Grant for a heartfelt, often hilarious conversation about the Father’s love becoming real in our everyday lives. Jesudian shares his journey from religious performance and hidden shame into the freedom of being fully known and loved,...
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Bob Hamp / From Religious Performance to Effortless Grace
What if freedom isn’t simply escaping pain, fear, or religion—but finally becoming who you were created to be? In this conversation, Jason and Bob Hamp explore the transformational difference between living for God and living from God, why relief is only one stop on the journey to freedom, and…
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Terry Tripp / Saving Judas
In this deeply moving conversation, Jason sits down with author and minister Terry Tripp to explore what happens when we allow Jesus—not fear, religion, or retribution—to reveal exactly what God is like. Terry shares his journey from growing up on TBN and traveling millions of miles in ministry…
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Bob Switzer / When Our Biblical Heroes Misrepresent God — The Epic Narrative
Bob Switzer returns for a conversation about reading Scripture through one life-changing conviction: God has always been as good as Jesus reveals. Together, Jason and Bob revisit Moses, Jericho, Ananias and Sapphira, and Jesus clearing the temple, exploring what changes when we question the...
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Chris E.W. Green / Made In The Image Of The One Who Heals The World
Chris E.W. Green joins Jason for a rich conversation about the goodness of God, the beauty of our humanity, and the healing love revealed in Jesus. Together, they explore how bad theology can contradict what our hearts already know, why sin is better understood through the lens of sickness and...
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Marty Solomon / The Gospel of Being Human
In this episode, Jason sits down with BEMA Podcast host and author Marty Solomon for a wide-ranging conversation about Scripture, deconstruction, the cross, and the inherent goodness of being human. Marty shares how reading the Bible through its historical and Jewish context revealed a God who…
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Gary Grant / Contractual Versus Covenantal
Jason and Brooke Waters sit down with Gary Grant to explore the difference between contractual religion and covenantal love—and why transformation begins when we stop trying to earn a belonging that has always been ours. Gary shares his journey from childhood intimacy with God through decades of...
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Steve & Wendy Backlund / Glistening with Hope
In this hope-filled conversation, Jason talks with Steve and Wendy Backlund of Igniting Hope Ministries to explore how our beliefs shape our emotions, relationships, and experience of God. Together, they unpack why hopelessness is often a greater problem than the circumstances themselves, how…
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Bob Ingle / The Gospel of Original Innocence
Jason sits down with friend and encourager Bob Ingle to trace his journey of faith—from rigid religion and painful rejection to discovering a God too big for buildings, beliefs, and denominations. Together, they explore original innocence, disruptive grace, the church beyond Sunday mornings, and...
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David Hewitt & C. Baxter Kruger — Live in Scotland / Take Sides with Jesus
Recorded live in Scotland at Wellspring Church, Jason joins David Hewitt and Baxter Kruger for a wide-ranging conversation about what changes when Jesus becomes our lens for everything—Scripture, deconstruction, sin, spiritual warfare, identity, and the finished work. Together, they explore union...
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Father Kenneth Tanner / Vulnerable God
Jason sits down with pastor and theologian Father Kenneth Tanner to explore his new book, Vulnerable God, and how Jesus reveals both what God is truly like and what it means to be fully human. From Jesus’ hidden years and tears at Lazarus’ grave to the cross and resurrection, Father Kenneth...
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Chris Gore / How Good Is The Father, Really?
What if Jesus didn’t come to change the Father’s mind about us—but to change our minds about the Father? Jason sits down with Chris Gore to explore his new book, How Good Is the Father, Really?, and the staggering goodness of God revealed in Jesus. From union and the cross to wrath, punishment,...
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Micole and Bethany Wallace / When Church Hurt Meets Radical Hope
What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we've been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as…
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Stephen K De Silva / Money & The Prosperous Soul
Jason and Brooke Waters sit down with Stephen K. De Silva for one of the most practical conversations you'll hear on identity, money, and the goodness of God. Together they explore why belief systems always outrun financial skills, how orphan thinking quietly sabotages our lives, why adoption is...
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Jim Lovejoy / Fire Pits, Family, and the Future of Church
In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven...
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Justin Paul Abraham / The Future Is Better Than You Think
Justin Paul Abraham joins Jason for one of the most expansive conversations, exploring what happens when the gospel is no longer driven by fear, but by union, joy, and the limitless goodness of God. Together they unpack mystical encounters, the logic of love, contemplative spirituality…
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Latoya Lackey / The Bluff House: Finding His Rest
This conversation with author and podcaster Latoya Lackey is about rest, identity, union with God, and the exhausting weight of performance-driven faith. Together, Jason and Latoya unpack how fear-based religion, striving, comparison, and the need for validation keep us disconnected from the…
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James E. Alderman & Larry Hudson / The “Gospel” I Grew Up On
In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional…
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Katherine Gantlett / Walking Through Winter
What happens when pain tears apart the version of God you were handed? In this deeply moving conversation, Jason sits down with author Katherine Gantlett to explore grief, miscarriage, breast cancer, hope, prayer, and the relentless goodness of God revealed in Jesus. Together they wrestle through...
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Godfrey Birtill / Outrageous Grace
In this episode, Jason sits down with singer/songwriter Godfrey Birtill for a raw, funny, and moving conversation about outrageous grace, creativity, religion, and the scandalous goodness of God. From psychiatric wards to worship conferences and presence-filled songs, Godfrey shares how divine...
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C. Baxter Kruger / The Ransom of Jesus: A Deep Dive into Divine Justice
This episode highlights Jason and Baxter Kruger’s show Across All Worlds. In this conversation, they explore the profound depths of the gospel, focusing on the ransom of Jesus, the restoration of justice, and the transformative love of God. The discussion challenges traditional views, emphasizing…
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Joel Clark, Tricia Halsey & Jeeva Ratnathicam / Deeply Rooted Stories
In this special episode, Jason Clark introduces Deeply Rooted and the creative team behind the stories they have been quietly building for years—films, children’s books, and family-centered adventures designed to reveal the goodness of God, strengthen families, and awaken imagination. From the...
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Tommy Miller, Bobby Shane Brooks / The Cross, Sonship & Why Jesus Kept His Scars
What if the gospel is better than we thought? In this live conversation, Jason joins Tommy Miller and Bobby Shane Brooks at the Homecoming Conference to explore union, sonship, healing, friendship with God, and the awakening happening in the Church today. From stories of heartbreak and family to...
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Tullian Tchividjian / Fragments Of Freedom
In this heartfelt and wide-ranging conversation, Jason talks with Tullian Tchividjian about his new book, Fragments of Freedom. They dive into radical grace, the beauty of an “unchained life,” and how true freedom in Christ dismantles religious performance, fear, and control. Filled with…
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Tom Oord / A Systematic Theology of Love
In this enriching conversation, Jason Clark welcomes back theologian and author Thomas Jay Oord for a deep dive into uncontrolling love, open and relational theology, and his groundbreaking new book, A Systematic Theology of Love. They explore rethinking God's power, the nature of love as the...
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The Gospel of Immortality: Rethinking Life, Death, and Resurrection
In this conversation, Jason Clark and Schlyce Jimenez step into one of the most provocative edges of the gospel: what if resurrection isn’t just a future promise—but a present reality? Moving beyond familiar language around union with God, they explore what Schlyce calls “the gospel of...
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John Crowder / Gifting vs Character? No—It’s a Christology Problem
This conversation is a rich, honest exploration ofdeconstruction, charismatic culture, union with God, suffering, anger, and the actual shape of the gospel. Jason and John Crowder move past surface-level recent controversy and into the deeper issue beneath it all: separation-based theology.…
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Lily Crowder / A Monday In February
In this deeply honest and sacred conversation, Lily Crowder shares the unthinkable journey of losing her 15-year-old son to suicide—and the slow, tender trust that followed. The conversation explored grief, trauma, and the dismantling of the God we thought we knew, making space for a bigger, more...
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Brian Zahnd / The Gospel Is Better Than You've Been Told: Union, Pilgrimage, and Unseen Existences
What if heaven isn't a distant destination — but a different dimension that's closer than we think? In this conversation, Jason sits down with theologian, pastor, and author Brian Zahnd to explore his new book Unseen Existences — and what it means to recover a vision of transcendence in a world...
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Lloyd Clark / The Life I Dreamed Of
Jason sat down with his dad, Lloyd—his best friend—to talk about Lloyd's memoir, The Life I Dreamed Of, a story they’ve been circling for decades. What unfolds is a journey through trauma, religion, and striving, into the surprising discovery that God was never distant. They explore the weight of...
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Wm. Paul Young, Martijn van Tilborgh & Matt Seifert / The Sacred Undoing
This episode of Rethinking God with Tacos is a raw, live-recorded conversation exploring some of the most difficult theological questions—wrath, hell, suffering, justice, and human brokenness—through the lens of a God who is fundamentally love. Recorded at Grace Orlando for the Sacred Undoing...
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Isi de Gersigny / The Gospel Without Fear
In this rich and deeply moving conversation, Jason connects with Isi De Gersigny to explore the expansive, immersive, and measureless love of God. Together, they reflect on worship, trauma, healing, union, and the freedom that comes when we stop living for God’s approval and begin living from the...
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Tommy Miller & Bobby Shane Brooks / Tragic Ontology vs Salvific Ontology
Tommy Miller, Bobby Shane Brooks, and Jason have a powerful conversation about union, identity, and the goodness of God, exploring how much of modern Christianity has framed the gospel through separation, behavior, and fear rather than inclusion, belovedness, and Christ-centered being. Tommy...
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Cary Brown PhD / A Crisis Of Maps
In this conversation, Cary Brown, PhD, discusses his new book Crisis of Maps. He shares his journey of rethinking theology, the impact of childhood maps on faith, and how the COVID pandemic catalyzed a global re-evaluation of beliefs. Discover practical applications for parenting, trauma healing,...
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Roy Rhoades / Designed For Love
In this conversation, Roy Rhoades shares his transformative journey from a legalistic upbringing to a deep understanding of God's love. He emphasizes the importance of community, connection, and the freedom that comes from living loved. The discussion highlights the shift from performance-based...
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Paul Golf / Damascus: Encounter the Unexpected Christ
Jason reconnects with his friend (and occasional co-host) Paul Golf for a laughter-and-theology conversation that starts with Dutch tacos and ends with a gospel that actually works outside a “climate-controlled” church environment. Paul shares the story behind Damascus: Encounter the Unexpected...
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Mark Casto / From Performance to Peace: How Beloved Identity Changes Everything
In this conversation, Mark Casto shares his transformative journey from a life rooted in legalism and performance-based ministry to one centered on beloved identity and God's unconditional love. He reflects on the challenges he faced, including panic attacks and the pressures of ministry success,...
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Lisa Wentworth Couture / Beloved Union
In this engaging conversation, Lisa Wentworth Couture and Jason explore the profound themes of love, identity, and healing through the lens of union. Lisa shares her personal journey of discovering God's love and the concept of 'Beloved Union,' emphasizing that salvation is not a transaction but…
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Trevor Meier / Discovering A More Beautiful Gospel
In this shared podcast conversation, Trevor Meier (Naturally Supernatural) and Jason explore their spiritual journeys, with a focus on sonship, the nature of God's love, and the importance of community in faith. They discuss their experiences in ministry, the impact of revival movements, and the...
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Jeromy Johnson & David Artman / Christian Universalism: The Gospel Without an Expiration Date
Jeromy Johnson, from Slutty Grace Podcast, partners with RGWT Podcast to host David Artman and Jason Clark. The fella's explore Christian universalism not as a fashionable doctrine or theological loophole, but as a coherent, compelling way of seeing God—one that only makes sense if Jesus truly...
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Nathan Apffel / The Religion Business
In this conversation, Nathan Apffel shares his journey with Brooke Waters and Jason from being a filmmaker in the action sports industry to being a creator of a docuseries that explores the complexities of faith and the church. He discusses his personal experiences that shaped his understanding…
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Peter Helms / Kindness Is God’s Native Tongue
This conversation is a warm, funny, deeply human tour through Peter Helms’ story—and the theology that leaks out of it like “liquid love.” Peter opens up about life in Germany: a wildly inclusive open-home rhythm where atheists, grandkids, and a “youth group” of 70+ year-olds all belong at the…
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Chris Blackeby / Discovering Your Identity in Christ!
In this conversation, Chris Blackeby shares his journey through burnout, healing, and a profound shift in understanding God's nature. He discusses the importance of living from a place of union with God and the transformative power of faith and trust in God's provision. Chris also shares his...
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Jason Clark / 2025 & Kindness
In this end-of-year episode, Jason reflects on 2025, sharing personal stories and testimonies that highlight the transformative power of God's kindness and love. Jason emphasizes the importance of community connections and the impact of God's love in personal growth. The podcast culminates with a...
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Brooke Waters & Jason Clark / The Pace of Relationship
In this conversation, Brooke Waters and Jason reflect on their podcast journey, the growth of their community, and the importance of relationships in fostering connection. They discuss the impact of shared experiences, the significance of intentionality in conversations, and their plans for…
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Michael Morrell / From Deconstruction To Contemplative Composting
In this engaging conversation, Michael Morrell and Jason explore the complexities of faith, spirituality, and personal journeys through various Christian traditions. They discuss the importance of contemplative practices, the role of consent in spirituality, and the significance of community and...
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Carlos Padilla / Rediscovering The Forgotten Man: The Election without Scapegoats
In this conversation, Carlos and Jason explore the themes of God's love, human dignity, and the impact of violence on perception. Carlos emphasizes that in the economy of God's love, everyone is worthy of dignity and life, and that seeing people through a divine lens is crucial to recognizing…
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Brad Jersak / A Non-Violent God
In this conversation, Bradley Jersak, Brooke Waters, andJason Clark explore the profound nature of divine love as revealed through Jesus Christ, particularly focusing on the significance of the cross and the concept of forgiveness in the face of violence. For more content like this, go to:...
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David Artman / Christian Universal & The Never Leaving Love of God
In this conversation between David and Jason, also featured on David’s podcast, Grace Saves All, the guys discuss Jason’s transformative journey from separation into union theology. This rich discussion delves into personal experiences, theological reflections, and the essence of understanding...
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Rethinking God with Tacos is hosted by Jason Clark and friends who are discovering that God is like Jesus—God is love, and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding. Just friends who really like tacos, talking with amazing guests, rethinking. Join us.
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