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Rethinking Hell

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Rethinking Hell is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. conditionalism or annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more.

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  1. Episode 157: The Bad Place, with J. Webb Mealy (Part 2)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place. In this part 2 of their discussion, they discuss the application of Mealy's five principles for interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's book The Bad Place: Or,...

  2. Episode 156: The Bad Place, with J. Webb Mealy (Part 1)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place. In this part 1 of their discussion, Mealy summarizes the chapters of his book and then outlines his five principles of interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's...

  3. Episode 155: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 6)–The Straw Men of "Soul Sleep" and Intermediate State (Continued)

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this sixth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris continue discussing how Slick insists upon conflating physicalism and "soul sleep"...

  4. Episode 154: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 5)–The Straw Men of "Soul Sleep" and Intermediate State

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fifth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris begin discussing how Slick insists upon conflating physicalism and "soul sleep"…

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  5. Episode 153: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 4)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs (Continued)

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fourth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris continue discussing how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in...

  6. Episode 152: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 3)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this third episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in the...

  7. Episode 151: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 2)–Mishandling Conditionalist Literature

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this second episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss some of the ways Slick misreads and misrepresents conditionalist…

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  8. Episode 150: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 1)–Toward Better Interactions with Conditionalists

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to begin a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this first episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris appeal to Slick for better interactions with conditionalists. Links: Matt Slick's...

  9. Episode 149: Teaching with Integrity: Presenting All Sides in the Debate on Hell, with Michael Zwaagstra

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews conditionalist Michael Zwaagstra on a course he recently taught at Steinbach Bible College on the three Christian views of hell. Links: The website for Michael's recent book, The Naked Man Flees: Timeless Truths from Obscure Parts of the Bible:...

  10. Episode 148: Hell and Abductive Reasoning: An Interview with Atheist Ed Atkinson

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews atheist Ed Atkinson on how abductive reasoning can inform the intramural Christian debate over hell. Links: Ed Atkinson's "Doubts Aloud" Podcast (iTunes): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doubts-aloud-podcast/id1344538182 The Unbelievable?...

  11. Episode 147: Public Ministry and the Shibboleth of Hell

    Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark interviews former RZIM speaker Dan Paterson on his experiences with and thoughts on the topic of hell. Links: Dan Paterson's speaker profile at RZIM (with which he is no longer affiliated): https://www.rzim.org/speakers/dan-paterson Part 1 of a recent...

  12. Episode 146: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2

    Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 2 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns:...

  13. Episode 145: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1

    Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 1 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns:...

  14. Episode 144: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 2

    Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 2 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 143 for part 1.…

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  15. Episode 143: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 1

    Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 1 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 144 for part 2.…

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  16. Episode 142: "Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?" Chris Date and Ross Burns Debate Hell

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date debates traditionalist Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" YouTube channel, debating the question, "Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?" Links Chris Date and Ross Burns's debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY Chris Date's...

  17. Episode 141: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 3

    Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren,...

  18. Episode 140: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2

    Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren,...

  19. Episode 139: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1

    Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren,...

  20. Episode 138: The History of Hell–A Conversation With Bart Ehrman

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date is joined by Dr. Bart Ehrman to discuss Ehrman's latest book, Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife. Links: Ehrman's book at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Hell-Afterlife-Bart-Ehrman/dp/1501136739/ The Bart Ehrman Blog: https://ehrmanblog.org/...

  21. Episode 137: The Apocalyptic Paul, with Nick Quient

    Former Rethinking Hell contributor Nick Quient joins Chris Date to discuss Nick's recent book, The Perfection of Our Faithful Wills: Paul's Apocalyptic Vision of Entire Sanctification, and how the apocalyptic theology of the apostle Paul supports conditional immortality and challenges the…

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  22. Episode 136: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 5)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains the fifth and final part of their discussion; listen to episodes 132 through 135 for the first...

  23. Episode 135: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 4)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 4 of their discussion; the next episode will contain the final installment of the series....

  24. Episode 134: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 3)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 3 of their discussion; the next one or two episodes will contain the remainder of the...

  25. Episode 133: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 2)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 2 of their discussion; the next two or three episodes will contain the remainder of the...

  26. Episode 132: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 1)

    Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 1 of their discussion; the next two, three, or four episodes will contain the remainder…

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  27. Episode 131: Annihilation and Divine Violence, with Tremper Longman III

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Tremper Longman III, in whose recent book on Old Testament controversies says some Bible interpreters are motivated to reject divine sanction of violence in Scripture by their desire to believe in annihilationism. Tremper Longman's recent…

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  28. Episode 130: Annihilation in Revelation, with Ian Paul

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Ian Paul, in whose commentary on the book of Revelation articulates a conditionalist reading of Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10-15. Links: https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Introduction-Commentary-Tyndale-Testament/dp/0830843000/...

  29. Episode 129: Eternal Torment vs. Conditional Immortality, Audience Q&A–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 3

    Links The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website: https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/

  30. Episode 128: "Is Conscious Torment of the Damned Eternal?"–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 2

    Chris Date debates the nature and duration of hell with traditionalist Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio show. This episode contains the second part of their two-part debate. Links: The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's…

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  31. Episode 127: "Is Immortality Only Given to the Saved?"–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 1

    Chris Date debates the nature and duration of hell with traditionalist Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio show. This episode contains the first part of their two-part debate. Links: The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's…

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  32. Episode 126: Rethinking Hell Live 01, Responding to William Lane Craig

    A special episode of the podcast introducing listeners to the new weekly YouTube live stream, Rethinking Hell Live, streaming Mondays at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern. In this audio version of the inaugural episode, Chris Date responds to clips on YouTube featuring Dr. William Lane Craig. Links:...

  33. Episode 125: "Evigt Liv i Kristus Jesus"–Conditionalism and Evangelism in Sweden, with Micael Grenholm

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Micael Grenholm, a Pentecostal pastor, speaker, and writer residing in Uppsala, Sweden, to discuss how the doctrine of eternal torment hinders evangelism in Sweden and how the doctrine of conditional immortality can help.

  34. Episode 124: The Bible Brodown on What'll Go Down (in Hell)

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Billy Wendeln and Matt Chisholm, hosts of the Bible Brodown podcast, to discuss their mid-2017 study of hell and why they ended up leaving behind the doctrine of eternal torment. Links: https://biblebrodown.com...

  35. Episode 123: Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, with R. Zachary Manis

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews R. Zachary Manis, Professor of Philosophy and Graduate Director of the Master of Arts in Christian Ministry program at Southwest Baptist University, about his new book, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God: An Essay on the Problem of Hell, in...

  36. Episode 122: Endgame, Part 2: Not the End of Evangelical Commitment

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Ármann Pálsson, a pastor at Anchor Point Church in Winnipeg, Manitoba, about what convinced him of conditional immortality and about his experience with his fellow elders leading up to his co-pastor's recent two-part sermon series introducing the...

  37. Episode 121: Endgame, Part 1: Not the End of Church Unity

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Donavan Friesen, a pastor at Anchor Point Church in Winnipeg, Manitoba, about his recent two-part sermon series in which he revealed to his congregation that he had become convinced of conditional immortality.

  38. Episode 120: Reasonable Annihilationism: Hell, Apologetics, and Evangelism

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date delivers a presentation on hell and apologetics to the Belfast chapter of Reasonable Faith.

  39. Episode 119: "Why I Am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist"–Part 2, With Chris Woznicki

    Chris Woznicki joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date at the Rethinking Hell 2019 Far West Chapter Symposium to discuss the theological reservations he has about conditional immortality and which prevent him from yet embracing it, despite what he acknowledges is its exegetical strength.…

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  40. Episode 118: "Why I am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist," Part 1, with Zachary Seals

    Zachary Seals joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date at the Rethinking Hell 2019 Far West Chapter Symposium to discuss the theological reservations he has about conditional immortality and which prevent him from yet embracing it, despite what he acknowledges is its exegetical strength.…

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  41. Episode 117: Hell and Hermeneutics; A Response to Lindsay Brooks—Plus 2019 Conference Announcement!

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date responds to clips from a breakout presentation delivered at the 2015 Rethinking Hell Conference by his friend Lindsay Brooks, in which Brooks offers some criticism of conditional immortality on hermeneutical grounds. Also, listen for an important…

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  42. Episode 116: Hell and Eschatological Humility; A Conversation with Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen

    Dr. Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen, Professor of Systematic Theology at Fuller Theological Seminary, joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his take on hell and final punishment as a systematic theologian and his five-volume series, A Constructive Christian Theology for the Pluralistic...

  43. Episode 115: "The Precious Blood of Christ": A Response to James White

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date responds to comments recently made by James White on the Dividing Line, in which White rightly explains that biblical language of Christ shedding his precious blood means he died as a substitute in place of those for whom his sacrifice was made. Chris asks…

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  44. Episode 114: "An Unquenchable Doctrine": Chris Date on the Recent History of Conditional Immortality

    Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date recently presented a paper at Lloyd Strickland's and Andrew Crome's conference, "Imagining the Last Things: Eschatology and Apocalypticism, 1500-Present." Chris's paper, "An Unquenchable Doctrine: The Tenacity of Conditional Immortality in Recent History,"...

  45. Episode 113: Date and Quient vs. Richardson and Lauriston Debate Review

    Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and Nick Quient join Joey Dear to review their recent debate with Damon Richardson and Elce Lauriston.

  46. Episode 112: "Does the Bible Teach Eternal Conscious Torment?" Date and Quient Debate Richardson and Lauriston

    A live-streamed debate between Damon Richardson of UrbanLogia Ministries and Elce Lauriston (affirmative), and Chris Date and Nick Quient of Rethinking Hell (negative). The debate was held on September 10, 2018.

  47. Episode 111: Rethinking "Hell Theology" in the Raw

    Plenary speakers Preston Sprinkle and Chris Date record a joint episode of the "Theology in the Raw" and "Rethinking Hell" podcasts on Day 2 of the 2018 Rethinking Hell Conference in Dallas–Fort Worth. They discuss their and other speakers' presentations, answer audience questions, and more.

  48. Episode 110: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 8: Annihilationism Under Fire

    Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Berthelsen and Mark Corbett join Chris Date for the eighth and last of a series of episodes reviewing Hell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment, edited by Christopher Morgan and Robert Peterson. This eighth episode in the series reviews...

  49. Episode 109: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 7: Will Everyone Ultimately Be Saved?

    Part 7 of our series of episodes reviewing Hell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment, edited by Christopher Morgan and Robert Peterson. This seventh episode in the series reviews chapter 8, "Universalism: Will Everyone Ultimately Be Saved?" by J. I. Packer.

  50. Episode 108: Chronicles of the Apocalypse: Brian Godawa on Conditionalism and Orthodox Preterism

    Writer and filmmaker Brian Godawa joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his biblical fiction series, Chronicles of the Apocalypse, and how orthodox preterism can inform the debate between the doctrines of conditional immortality and eternal torment.

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Rethinking Hell is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. conditionalism or annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more.

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