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Rethinking Hell
by Rethinking Hell
Rethinking Hell is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. conditionalism or annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more.
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Episode 157: The Bad Place, with J. Webb Mealy (Part 2)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place. In this part 2 of their discussion, they discuss the application of Mealy's five principles for interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's book The Bad Place: Or, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Hell, but Were Afraid to Ask, on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Place-Everything-always-wanted-ebook/dp/B09NKJ2XNB/ Mealy's Amazon author's page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/J.-Webb-Mealy/author/B00J8VOI4G Mealy's presentation, "In Christ All Will Be Made Alive: Jesus Ransom Every Human Being from Death," given at the sixth annual Rethinking Hell Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z1dWx4tLSs Mealy's presentation, "Five Principles for Determining Literalness in the Book of Revelation," given at the eighth annual Rethinking Hell Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcNYx7aESs
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Episode 156: The Bad Place, with J. Webb Mealy (Part 1)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place. In this part 1 of their discussion, Mealy summarizes the chapters of his book and then outlines his five principles of interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's book The Bad Place: Or, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Hell, but Were Afraid to Ask, on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Place-Everything-always-wanted-ebook/dp/B09NKJ2XNB/ Mealy's Amazon author's page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/J.-Webb-Mealy/author/B00J8VOI4G Mealy's presentation, "In Christ All Will Be Made Alive: Jesus Ransom Every Human Being from Death," given at the sixth annual Rethinking Hell Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z1dWx4tLSs Mealy's presentation, "Five Principles for Determining Literalness in the Book of Revelation," given at the eighth annual Rethinking Hell Conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcNYx7aESs
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Episode 155: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 6)–The Straw Men of "Soul Sleep" and Intermediate State (Continued)
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this sixth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris continue discussing how Slick insists upon conflating physicalism and "soul sleep" with conditional immortality and annihilationism to erect a straw man easily burned down, as they began to do in the previous episode. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 154: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 5)–The Straw Men of "Soul Sleep" and Intermediate State
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fifth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris begin discussing how Slick insists upon conflating physicalism and "soul sleep" with conditional immortality and annihilationism to erect a straw man easily burned down. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 153: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 4)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs (Continued)
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fourth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris continue discussing how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in the definitions he offers of various terms and of our beliefs. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 152: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 3)–Redefining Our Basic Terms and Beliefs
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this third episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in the definitions he offers of various terms and of our beliefs. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 151: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 2)–Mishandling Conditionalist Literature
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this second episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss some of the ways Slick misreads and misrepresents conditionalist literature in his critiques of annihilationism. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 150: Keep CARM and Carry On: Responding to Matt Slick and CARM.org (Part 1)–Toward Better Interactions with Conditionalists
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to begin a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this first episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris appeal to Slick for better interactions with conditionalists. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
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Episode 149: Teaching with Integrity: Presenting All Sides in the Debate on Hell, with Michael Zwaagstra
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews conditionalist Michael Zwaagstra on a course he recently taught at Steinbach Bible College on the three Christian views of hell. Links: The website for Michael's recent book, The Naked Man Flees: Timeless Truths from Obscure Parts of the Bible: http://thenakedmanflees.com/ Michael's book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Man-Flees-Timeless-Obscure/dp/B08DBVZYZP/ The website for Steinbach Bible College, at which Michael recently taught his course: https://sbcollege.ca/
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Episode 148: Hell and Abductive Reasoning: An Interview with Atheist Ed Atkinson
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews atheist Ed Atkinson on how abductive reasoning can inform the intramural Christian debate over hell. Links: Ed Atkinson's "Doubts Aloud" Podcast (iTunes): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/doubts-aloud-podcast/id1344538182 The Unbelievable? Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group London (Meetup): https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London/
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Episode 147: Public Ministry and the Shibboleth of Hell
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark interviews former RZIM speaker Dan Paterson on his experiences with and thoughts on the topic of hell. Links: Dan Paterson's speaker profile at RZIM (with which he is no longer affiliated): https://www.rzim.org/speakers/dan-paterson Part 1 of a recent interview of Dan Paterson by Joel Ramsey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FayiAh7QwWE Part 2 of a recent interview of Dan Paterson by Joel Ramsey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9saVOHCoH_U Part 3 of a recent interview of Dan Paterson by Joel Ramsey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywZoSzQlIW0 Dan Paterson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielpaterson/
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Episode 146: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2
Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 2 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY
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Episode 145: Date vs. Burns on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1
Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 1 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY
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Episode 144: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 2
Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 2 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 143 for part 1. Links: The Doctrine and Devotion podcast episode titled "Annihilationism": http://www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/annihilationism
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Episode 143: Revelation and Reverence: A Response to Doctrine and Devotion, Part 1
Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 1 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 144 for part 2. Links: The Doctrine and Devotion podcast episode titled "Annihilationism": http://www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/annihilationism
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Episode 142: "Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?" Chris Date and Ross Burns Debate Hell
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date debates traditionalist Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" YouTube channel, debating the question, "Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?" Links Chris Date and Ross Burns's debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY Chris Date's interview on "Adherent Apologetics": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s08GKPkRUsk Ross Burns's debate with a Roman Catholic annihilationist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyjGrx9XHfc&t=3125s
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Episode 141: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 3
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 3 of the debate, in which Date and Costa field audience questions. Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-8-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-1/ Part 2 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-9-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-2/ Part 3 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-25-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-3-audience-q-a/
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Episode 140: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 2
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 2 of the debate, in which Date and Costa debate the question, "Is conscious torment of the damned eternal?" Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-8-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-1/ Part 2 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-9-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-2/ Part 3 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-25-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-3-audience-q-a/
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Episode 139: Date vs. Costa on Hell; Debate Review, Part 1
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 1 of the debate, in which Date and Costa debate the question, "Is immortality only given to the saved?" Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-8-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-1/ Part 2 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-9-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-2/ Part 3 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-25-2019-show-with-dr-tony-costa-and-chris-date-debating-eternal-conscious-punishment-vs-conditional-immortality-part-3-audience-q-a/
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Episode 138: The History of Hell–A Conversation With Bart Ehrman
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date is joined by Dr. Bart Ehrman to discuss Ehrman's latest book, Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife. Links: Ehrman's book at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Hell-Afterlife-Bart-Ehrman/dp/1501136739/ The Bart Ehrman Blog: https://ehrmanblog.org/ Ehrman's website: https://www.bartdehrman.com/
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Episode 137: The Apocalyptic Paul, with Nick Quient
Former Rethinking Hell contributor Nick Quient joins Chris Date to discuss Nick's recent book, The Perfection of Our Faithful Wills: Paul's Apocalyptic Vision of Entire Sanctification, and how the apocalyptic theology of the apostle Paul supports conditional immortality and challenges the doctrines of eternal torment and universalism. Links: Nick's book at the publisher's website (https://wipfandstock.com/the-perfection-of-our-faithful-wills.html) Nick's book at Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Perfection-Our-Faithful-Wills-Sanctification/dp/1532656238/) "Split Frame of Reference": the blog and podcast of Nick and Allison Quient (http://www.splitframeofreference.com/) "The Sinnergists": Nick's other podcast (https://sinnergistspod.com/)
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Episode 136: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 5)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains the fifth and final part of their discussion; listen to episodes 132 through 135 for the first four parts. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/solidgroundnovember2017hellinterruptedpart2 Part 3 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundJuly2019-hell-interrupted-3 "Warned of Sin's Wages," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2017/11/08/warned-of-sins-wages-a-concise-explanation-of-death-in-genesis-217-and-romans-623/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 1)," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/11/14/annihilation-in-2-thessalonians-19-part-1-destroyed-by-the-glory-of-his-manifest-presence/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 2)," article by Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/12/05/annihilation-in-2-thess-1-9-part-2-separation-or-obliteration/ "Perish the Thought," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/06/14/perish-the-thought-john-3-16/ "On the Meaning of Destruction in the Bible," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/04/18/on-the-meaning-of-destruction-in-the-bible/ "Exegesis Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/11/13/exegesis-interrupted-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Biblical Theology Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/02/22/biblical-theology-interrupted-part-2-of-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Psalm 37—A Song of Annihilation," article by Mark Corbett and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/05/09/psalm-37-a-song-of-annihilation/ "The Hermeneutics of Conditionalism," article by Chris Date: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/02/27/the-hermeneutics-of-conditionalism-a-defense-of-the-interpretive-method-of-edward-fudge/
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Episode 135: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 4)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 4 of their discussion; the next episode will contain the final installment of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/solidgroundnovember2017hellinterruptedpart2 Part 3 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundJuly2019-hell-interrupted-3 "Warned of Sin's Wages," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2017/11/08/warned-of-sins-wages-a-concise-explanation-of-death-in-genesis-217-and-romans-623/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 1)," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/11/14/annihilation-in-2-thessalonians-19-part-1-destroyed-by-the-glory-of-his-manifest-presence/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 2)," article by Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/12/05/annihilation-in-2-thess-1-9-part-2-separation-or-obliteration/ "Perish the Thought," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/06/14/perish-the-thought-john-3-16/ "On the Meaning of Destruction in the Bible," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/04/18/on-the-meaning-of-destruction-in-the-bible/ "Exegesis Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/11/13/exegesis-interrupted-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Biblical Theology Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/02/22/biblical-theology-interrupted-part-2-of-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Psalm 37—A Song of Annihilation," article by Mark Corbett and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/05/09/psalm-37-a-song-of-annihilation/ "The Hermeneutics of Conditionalism," article by Chris Date: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/02/27/the-hermeneutics-of-conditionalism-a-defense-of-the-interpretive-method-of-edward-fudge/
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Episode 134: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 3)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 3 of their discussion; the next one or two episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/solidgroundnovember2017hellinterruptedpart2 Part 3 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundJuly2019-hell-interrupted-3 "Warned of Sin's Wages," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2017/11/08/warned-of-sins-wages-a-concise-explanation-of-death-in-genesis-217-and-romans-623/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 1)," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/11/14/annihilation-in-2-thessalonians-19-part-1-destroyed-by-the-glory-of-his-manifest-presence/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 2)," article by Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/12/05/annihilation-in-2-thess-1-9-part-2-separation-or-obliteration/ "Perish the Thought," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/06/14/perish-the-thought-john-3-16/ "On the Meaning of Destruction in the Bible," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/04/18/on-the-meaning-of-destruction-in-the-bible/ "Exegesis Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/11/13/exegesis-interrupted-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Biblical Theology Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/02/22/biblical-theology-interrupted-part-2-of-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Psalm 37—A Song of Annihilation," article by Mark Corbett and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/05/09/psalm-37-a-song-of-annihilation/ "The Hermeneutics of Conditionalism," article by Chris Date: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/02/27/the-hermeneutics-of-conditionalism-a-defense-of-the-interpretive-method-of-edward-fudge/
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Episode 133: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 2)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 2 of their discussion; the next two or three episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/solidgroundnovember2017hellinterruptedpart2 Part 3 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundJuly2019-hell-interrupted-3 "Warned of Sin's Wages," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2017/11/08/warned-of-sins-wages-a-concise-explanation-of-death-in-genesis-217-and-romans-623/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 1)," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/11/14/annihilation-in-2-thessalonians-19-part-1-destroyed-by-the-glory-of-his-manifest-presence/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 2)," article by Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/12/05/annihilation-in-2-thess-1-9-part-2-separation-or-obliteration/ "Perish the Thought," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/06/14/perish-the-thought-john-3-16/ "On the Meaning of Destruction in the Bible," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/04/18/on-the-meaning-of-destruction-in-the-bible/ "Exegesis Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/11/13/exegesis-interrupted-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Biblical Theology Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/02/22/biblical-theology-interrupted-part-2-of-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Psalm 37—A Song of Annihilation," article by Mark Corbett and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/05/09/psalm-37-a-song-of-annihilation/ "The Hermeneutics of Conditionalism," article by Chris Date: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/02/27/the-hermeneutics-of-conditionalism-a-defense-of-the-interpretive-method-of-edward-fudge/
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Episode 132: Conditionalism Stands to Reason (Part 1)
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 1 of their discussion; the next two, three, or four episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/solidgroundnovember2017hellinterruptedpart2 Part 3 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundJuly2019-hell-interrupted-3 "Warned of Sin's Wages," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2017/11/08/warned-of-sins-wages-a-concise-explanation-of-death-in-genesis-217-and-romans-623/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 1)," article by Peter Grice: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/11/14/annihilation-in-2-thessalonians-19-part-1-destroyed-by-the-glory-of-his-manifest-presence/ "Annihilation in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 (Part 2)," article by Ronnie Demler and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/12/05/annihilation-in-2-thess-1-9-part-2-separation-or-obliteration/ "Perish the Thought," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/06/14/perish-the-thought-john-3-16/ "On the Meaning of Destruction in the Bible," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/04/18/on-the-meaning-of-destruction-in-the-bible/ "Exegesis Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/11/13/exegesis-interrupted-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Biblical Theology Interrupted," article by Darren Clark: http://rethinkinghell.com/2019/02/22/biblical-theology-interrupted-part-2-of-a-critique-of-stand-to-reasons-article-hell-interrupted-part-2/ "Psalm 37—A Song of Annihilation," article by Mark Corbett and William Tanksley: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/05/09/psalm-37-a-song-of-annihilation/ "The Hermeneutics of Conditionalism," article by Chris Date: http://rethinkinghell.com/2018/02/27/the-hermeneutics-of-conditionalism-a-defense-of-the-interpretive-method-of-edward-fudge/
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Episode 131: Annihilation and Divine Violence, with Tremper Longman III
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Tremper Longman III, in whose recent book on Old Testament controversies says some Bible interpreters are motivated to reject divine sanction of violence in Scripture by their desire to believe in annihilationism. Tremper Longman's recent book, Confronting Old Testament Controversies
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Episode 130: Annihilation in Revelation, with Ian Paul
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Ian Paul, in whose commentary on the book of Revelation articulates a conditionalist reading of Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10-15. Links: https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Introduction-Commentary-Tyndale-Testament/dp/0830843000/ https://www.ivpress.com/tyndale-new-testament-commentaries
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Episode 129: Eternal Torment vs. Conditional Immortality, Audience Q&A–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 3
Links The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website: https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/
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Episode 128: "Is Conscious Torment of the Damned Eternal?"–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 2
Chris Date debates the nature and duration of hell with traditionalist Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio show. This episode contains the second part of their two-part debate. Links: The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/a
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Episode 127: "Is Immortality Only Given to the Saved?"–Chris Date and Tony Costa Debate Hell, Part 1
Chris Date debates the nature and duration of hell with traditionalist Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio show. This episode contains the first part of their two-part debate. Links: The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/
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Episode 126: Rethinking Hell Live 01, Responding to William Lane Craig
A special episode of the podcast introducing listeners to the new weekly YouTube live stream, Rethinking Hell Live, streaming Mondays at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern. In this audio version of the inaugural episode, Chris Date responds to clips on YouTube featuring Dr. William Lane Craig. Links: Rethinking Hell Live, streaming on YouTube Mondays at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern: http://youtube.com/rethinkinghell/live The inaugural episode of Rethinking Hell Live, responding to William Lane Craig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RUC3fdDeTo First video responded to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STaCAr5j0As Second video responded to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7MzHYBBPis Third video responded to: https://youtu.be/xYNBx6nm9kY?t=1338 Fourth video responded to: https://subsplash.com/reasonablefaith/lb/mi/+ymwyb2f
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Episode 125: "Evigt Liv i Kristus Jesus"–Conditionalism and Evangelism in Sweden, with Micael Grenholm
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Micael Grenholm, a Pentecostal pastor, speaker, and writer residing in Uppsala, Sweden, to discuss how the doctrine of eternal torment hinders evangelism in Sweden and how the doctrine of conditional immortality can help.
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Episode 124: The Bible Brodown on What'll Go Down (in Hell)
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Billy Wendeln and Matt Chisholm, hosts of the Bible Brodown podcast, to discuss their mid-2017 study of hell and why they ended up leaving behind the doctrine of eternal torment. Links: https://biblebrodown.com https://biblebrodown.com/blog/hell-part-1 https://biblebrodown.com/blog/hell-part-2 https://www.facebook.com/groups/BibleBrodown/
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Episode 123: Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God, with R. Zachary Manis
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews R. Zachary Manis, Professor of Philosophy and Graduate Director of the Master of Arts in Christian Ministry program at Southwest Baptist University, about his new book, Sinners in the Presence of a Loving God: An Essay on the Problem of Hell, in which he argues that only a variation of the doctrine of eternal torment can adequately answer the theological and philosophical problems of hell while staying consistent with Scripture and tradition. Links: Dr. Manis's profile at the SBU website: https://www.sbuniv.edu/academics/faculty/zach-manis.php Dr. Manis's book for purchase at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sinners-Presence-Loving-God-Problem/dp/0190929251/ Article on conditional immortality and the second council of Constantinople: http://rethinkinghell.com/2015/08/11/conditional-immortality-origen-and-the-second-council-of-constantinople/ Glenn Peoples's article on how clearly the Bible teaches conditional immortality: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/02/17/sure-as-hell/ Episode 84 of the Rethinking Hell podcast with Jerry Walls: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/01/20/episode-84-four-views-on-hell-2-0-purgatory-with-jerry-walls/ Episode 95 of the Rethinking Hell podcast on "issuant" views of hell: http://rethinkinghell.com/2016/09/19/episode-95-issuant-views-and-the-problem-of-hell-with-ray-baker/
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Episode 122: Endgame, Part 2: Not the End of Evangelical Commitment
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Ármann Pálsson, a pastor at Anchor Point Church in Winnipeg, Manitoba, about what convinced him of conditional immortality and about his experience with his fellow elders leading up to his co-pastor's recent two-part sermon series introducing the congregation to conditional immortality.
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Episode 121: Endgame, Part 1: Not the End of Church Unity
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Donavan Friesen, a pastor at Anchor Point Church in Winnipeg, Manitoba, about his recent two-part sermon series in which he revealed to his congregation that he had become convinced of conditional immortality.
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Episode 120: Reasonable Annihilationism: Hell, Apologetics, and Evangelism
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date delivers a presentation on hell and apologetics to the Belfast chapter of Reasonable Faith.
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Episode 119: "Why I Am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist"–Part 2, With Chris Woznicki
Chris Woznicki joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date at the Rethinking Hell 2019 Far West Chapter Symposium to discuss the theological reservations he has about conditional immortality and which prevent him from yet embracing it, despite what he acknowledges is its exegetical strength. This is part 2 of the recording; listen to part 1 with Zachary Seals in episode 118.
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Episode 118: "Why I am Not (Yet) a Conditionalist," Part 1, with Zachary Seals
Zachary Seals joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date at the Rethinking Hell 2019 Far West Chapter Symposium to discuss the theological reservations he has about conditional immortality and which prevent him from yet embracing it, despite what he acknowledges is its exegetical strength. Also, listen for an important announcement about the upcoming 2019 Rethinking Hell Conference!
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Episode 117: Hell and Hermeneutics; A Response to Lindsay Brooks—Plus 2019 Conference Announcement!
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date responds to clips from a breakout presentation delivered at the 2015 Rethinking Hell Conference by his friend Lindsay Brooks, in which Brooks offers some criticism of conditional immortality on hermeneutical grounds. Also, listen for an important announcement about the upcoming 2019 Rethinking Hell Conference!
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Episode 116: Hell and Eschatological Humility; A Conversation with Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen
Dr. Veli-Matti Kärkkäinen, Professor of Systematic Theology at Fuller Theological Seminary, joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his take on hell and final punishment as a systematic theologian and his five-volume series, A Constructive Christian Theology for the Pluralistic World.
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Episode 115: "The Precious Blood of Christ": A Response to James White
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date responds to comments recently made by James White on the Dividing Line, in which White rightly explains that biblical language of Christ shedding his precious blood means he died as a substitute in place of those for whom his sacrifice was made. Chris asks, if the blood of Christ points metonymically to his substitutionary death, doesn't that mean the punishment awaiting the unsaved is likewise death?
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Episode 114: "An Unquenchable Doctrine": Chris Date on the Recent History of Conditional Immortality
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date recently presented a paper at Lloyd Strickland's and Andrew Crome's conference, "Imagining the Last Things: Eschatology and Apocalypticism, 1500-Present." Chris's paper, "An Unquenchable Doctrine: The Tenacity of Conditional Immortality in Recent History," outlines the history of conditionalism since the Reformation and its increasing popularity despite attempts by traditionalists to stamp it out, and the evolution of the doctrine of eternal torment into something much more moderate than would be recognizable to Christians of the past.
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Episode 113: Date and Quient vs. Richardson and Lauriston Debate Review
Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and Nick Quient join Joey Dear to review their recent debate with Damon Richardson and Elce Lauriston.
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Episode 112: "Does the Bible Teach Eternal Conscious Torment?" Date and Quient Debate Richardson and Lauriston
A live-streamed debate between Damon Richardson of UrbanLogia Ministries and Elce Lauriston (affirmative), and Chris Date and Nick Quient of Rethinking Hell (negative). The debate was held on September 10, 2018.
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Episode 111: Rethinking "Hell Theology" in the Raw
Plenary speakers Preston Sprinkle and Chris Date record a joint episode of the "Theology in the Raw" and "Rethinking Hell" podcasts on Day 2 of the 2018 Rethinking Hell Conference in Dallas–Fort Worth. They discuss their and other speakers' presentations, answer audience questions, and more.
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Episode 110: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 8: Annihilationism Under Fire
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Berthelsen and Mark Corbett join Chris Date for the eighth and last of a series of episodes reviewing Hell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment, edited by Christopher Morgan and Robert Peterson. This eighth episode in the series reviews chapter 9, "Annihilationism: Will the Unsaved Be Punished Forever?" by Christopher Morgan.
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Episode 109: "Hell Under Fire" Under Fire, Part 7: Will Everyone Ultimately Be Saved?
Part 7 of our series of episodes reviewing Hell Under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment, edited by Christopher Morgan and Robert Peterson. This seventh episode in the series reviews chapter 8, "Universalism: Will Everyone Ultimately Be Saved?" by J. I. Packer.
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Episode 108: Chronicles of the Apocalypse: Brian Godawa on Conditionalism and Orthodox Preterism
Writer and filmmaker Brian Godawa joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss his biblical fiction series, Chronicles of the Apocalypse, and how orthodox preterism can inform the debate between the doctrines of conditional immortality and eternal torment.
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Rethinking Hell is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. conditionalism or annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more.
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