Sanctuary Counseling Podcast

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey and Bill as they discuss the hottest topic in the world right now...the World Cup. The 2026 World Cup is the biggest in history, with 16 host cities, three host nations for the first time ever. Foreign fans are filming their reactions to giant supermarkets, free ice machines, oversized food portions, and drive-thrus. Joey and Bill discuss some relevant takeaways we should be mindful of during this global event.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey and Bill for part two of resting. In part two the discussion centers on What Healthy Rest Actually Looks Like. Rest is not merely the absence of work; it is the presence of renewal. We discuss the gift of the Sabbath and how gratitude changes how we experience rest - rest allows us to receive God's gifts; gratitude allows us to recognize them.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey and Bill as they continue the Summer Series discussing rest. Many people know they need rest, but struggle to slow down because they've tied their worth to productivity. Healthy rest is not laziness - it is essential for emotional, relational, physical, and spiritual well-being.

Send us Fan MailSummertime is supposed to be carefree, social, and enjoyable, but for many people the reality can intensify feelings of loneliness, isolation, sadness, or restlessness. Join Joey and Bill as they continue their summer series discussing Summertime Blues.

Send us Fan MailIn this Transition to Summer episode, Joey and Bill discuss how summer can quickly become chaotic with endless screen time, late mornings, boredom, and lack of routine. Families don't always need rigid schedules, but they do need healthy rhythms. The C.H.A.R.G.E. List is a simple daily framework that gives kids structure, purpose, and balance during the summer.

Send us Fan MailIn this Transition to Summer episode, Joey and Bill discuss Depletion and Burnout and how these are two different problems. What is Depletion and why it's not the enemy? What Burnout actually is and how you end up there. It's a myth you "just need a vacation". A vacation can rescue the Depleted, but for the Burned Out it often just defers the reckoning. Join the conversation and get your summer off on a positive step.

Send us Fan MailWhat do you and your spouse actually need this summer? Join the conversation as Joey & Bill continue their series on Transition to Summer with the third episode The Summer Plan Nobody Talks About. This episode gives couples a simple, pastoral framework for a Summer State of the Union conversation. Clinical data shows couples who do not make intentional space for connection during the high-demand seasons almost always report increased resentment, emotional distance, and conflict by the end of summer. Simple conversation. Connecting, not fixing.

Send us Fan MailIn this second episode of our Transition to Summer series, Joey & Bill discuss What Your Kids Need This Summer. The best thing you can give your kids this summer is a parent who is emotionally available. We'll discuss what we do and why and that busyness is a way of feeling like a good parent without actually being present. Bill gives some terrific guidance on how to practically make this happen, even if you are uncomfortable and anxious.

Send us Fan MailSanctuary Counseling Center Podcast begins a new series today The Summer Transition. Join Joey & Bill as they discuss The Summer Transition is a Relational Moment not to be missed. As parent's focus turns to summer logistics and the loss of the school year routine it is important to not lose site of the opportunity to form deeper connections with your kids. Listen as common patterns are discussed and what those patterns may be telling you. Start your summer plan here. Not with a calendar. With you.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss impact with their guest Jonathan Torres. Jonathan has a deep history of non-profit work in Memphis and has taken the value of lessons learned to be a consultant. Through his C12 organization Jonathan is helping for-profit and non-profit organizations thrive.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss the Impact of Unresolved Grief. Over the years, sitting with pastors, ministry leaders, couples, and individuals, we've noticed something that shows up again and again: it's not just stress, it's not just burnout, it's not just conflict, it's grief that hasn't been fully processed. Unresolved grief quietly shapes how we relate to people, show we show up at work, and even how we lead and serve in ministry.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss the Impact of Failure. We live in a culture that treats failure like a diagnosis. Something went wrong, someone is to blame, and the goal is to get back to success as fast as possible. But what if failure isn't the interruption of the story, what if it's where the story actually begins?

Send us Fan MailJoin host, Joey Bland, and SCC Executive Director, Bill Finnell, as they conclude this mini-series on The Impact of Personal Wellness. Here, in episode 4, Joey & Bill get practical discussing how to build a plan. Those around don't need more of you, they need more of the best version of you. Key Insight: The healthiest thing you can do for your team is refuse to lead them from a place of brokenness you haven't addressed.

Send us Fan MailJoin host, Joey Bland, as he and SCC Executive Director, Bill Finnell, discuss the ripple effect of neglecting your own personal wellness. Just like in the movie Code 3, the leader is often the last to see their own deterioration, but the team sees it first and feels it longest. Key Insight: Your personal neglect is never just personal - it has a ministry-wide cost that your team pays whether you acknowledge it or not.

Send us Fan MailJoin host, Joey Bland, as he and SCC Executive Director, Bill Finnell, discuss why ministry leaders often resist personal wellness plans. Key Insight: Resistance to rest is often a spiritual issue before it's a scheduling issue - but it always becomes a team issue.

Send us Fan MailJoin host, Joey Bland, as he and SCC Executive Director, Bill Finnell, discuss the importance of personal wellness in ministry. The key question: You can't pour from an empty vessel - but what happens to everyone around you when you keep trying? Key Insight: The moment you ignore your own breakdown is the moment you begin to cause one in others. Joey & Bill explore the four dimensions of wellness every ministry leader must tend to.

Send us Fan MailJoin host, Joey Bland, as he and Sanctuary Executive Director, Bill Finnell, discuss phases of impact men have in their careers. From the rookie stage of learning the ropes, to the warrior phase of struggling and building, to the king phase of mastering your craft, and finally to the sage phase of passing it on. Join the conversation.

Send us Fan MailMost men I know want their lives to matter. We want to live with purpose, to make an impact that lasts. Scripture reminds us that impact is not measured by titles or recognition, but by faithfulness, humility, justice, and love. The way God invites us to live out Micah 6:8 changes with the season of life we are in. Join Joey & Bill as they discuss the different seasons carry different callings.

Send us Fan MailMost men I know want their lives to matter. We want to live with purpose, to make an impact that lasts. Scripture reminds us that impact is not measured by titles or recognition, but by faithfulness, humility, justice, and love. The way God invites us to live out Micah 6:8 changes with the season of life we are in. Join Joey & Bill as they discuss the different seasons carry different callings.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they host the author of Journey to Impact, Ed Gillentine. The conversation focuses on personal and financial impact possibilities. Ed's wide range of experience both personally and from his financial consulting business have woven into him the impact dna. From farming in Ethiopia to engaging with humans daily, Ed's story will inspire you to focus more on what is important rather than just being efficient.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they look at impact in ministry. From clarifying what impact is to discussing why it is so hard to measure join the discussion as we focus on why impact matters so much and healthier ways to think about impact.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill for this much needed venture into impacting others. A must listen for parents who want to focus on presence over performance. Often times your family, work, friends don't need more of you, but they need the healthiest version of you.

Send us Fan MailStarting 2026, Joey and Bill, explore what lasting impact really means in our work, relationships, leadership, faith, and emotional health, and how we move from good intentions to meaningful influence in the lives of others.

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Send us Fan MailWhat is healthy and productive conflict? Why does conflict seem different at home, at work, with friends, with people in authority? What keeps people from doing conflict well? How can we become better at conflict? Join the conversation as Sanctuary Counseling Center Executive Director, Bill Finnell, joins host, Joey Bland, discussing conflict.

Send us Fan MailIn this final episode of 2025 Joey & Bill discuss Gratitude and even feeling Gratitude when we don't feel like it. It's the end of the year and whether your year was a great one or a not so great one gratitude is critical for our daily success. Join the conversation as we wrap 2025.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss holiday preferences, which promises to be wildly controversial. They also throw in a summary of holiday songs & movies per decade and Bill drops a tricky song into the mix. Merry Christmas from all of us at Sanctuary Counseling Center.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they continue our Holiday '25 series and focus today on Building a R.A.F.T. For the Holidays & New Year. Bill discusses this frequently used acronym that is designed to help people with transitions in life and demanding times. Join the conversation to enrich your holidays.

Send us Fan MailAs we continue our 2025 Holiday Series Joey & Bill explore the concept of Recharging instead of Recovering in the holidays. This discuss will look at the science of rest and the importance of rest. We'll also discuss ways to build "buffer zones" so that you can maintain the much needed space for recharging.

Send us Fan MailAs we begin our 2025 Holiday Series, Joey and Bill spend some time discussing Boundaries, Busyness, and the Myth of the Perfect Holiday. The holidays can be a pressure cooker striving for holiday perfection so we'll discuss the gift of Boundaries and ways to build a peaceful holiday plan.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they welcome Hannah & Edwin Attaway to the podcasts. Hannah & Edwin's story is unique as they both serve full-time as pastors but do so at different churches. Come and join the conversation as the Attaways discuss their journey and how that journey has grown them as individuals and as a couple.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they welcome Hannah & Edwin Attaway to the podcasts. Hannah & Edwin's story is unique as they both serve full-time as pastors but do so at different churches. Come and join the conversation as the Attaways discuss their journey and how that journey has grown them as individuals and as a couple.

Send us Fan MailAs we conclude our series on grief, Joey & Bill discuss Grieving and The Holidays. The holidays are the most difficult time of the year for so many people and learning healthy ways to grieve during the holidays can be very healing. Join the conversation as we discuss practical ways to navigate the holidays.

Send us Fan MailAs we conclude our series on grief, Joey & Bill discuss Grieving and The Holidays. The holidays are the most difficult time of the year for so many people and learning healthy ways to grieve during the holidays can be very healing. Join the conversation as we discuss practical ways to navigate the holidays.

Send us Fan MailAs our series on grief continues, today Joey & Bill discuss Divorce & Grief. Not unlike the death of a spouse, divorce causes lots of layers of grief. Not grieving leaves all that hurt and pain inside a person. Join the conversation.

Send us Fan MailIn this episode on grief, Joey & Bill discuss Helping Kids Through Grief. Grief is difficult for adults and kids are often overlooked in the process. Join the conversation as Bill explains how kids grieve and how we as adults need to model healthy grieving in front of them.

Send us Fan MailIn episode 4 of our Grief series, Joey & Bill discuss The Art of Lament. Learning how to grieve is critically important and part of that process is being able to express those deeper feelings of grief. King David did and it is a good practice for us as well.

Send us Fan MailAs we continue our series on Grief, Joey & Bill get practical with Personal Practices for Grief. Grief is something most people have to learn to do because it is uncomfortable and unnatural. This episode provides a framework for those grieving and how to set yourself up for support and healthy progress.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they begin a new series on grief. Grief tends to be an uncomfortable topic with people which often results in short circuiting the grieving process. Bill & Joey explore why grief is critical to overall, long-term emotional health as they explore The Needs of Grief.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they begin a new series on grief. Grief tends to be an uncomfortable topic with people which often results in short circuiting the grieving process. Bill & Joey explore why grief is critical to overall, long-term emotional health as they explore The Needs of Grief.

Send us Fan MailIn the final episode of our mini series Questions We Hear As Counselors, Joey & Bill delve into how to help someone with this episode I'm Not A Counselor, But How Can I Help?.We all have friends and family or coworkers that come seeking advice or input, so Joey & Bill tackle the topic to help provide some tools as you enter those conversations.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss the most common questions they get when meeting with clients. A fun and insightful conversation about questions we all have.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss the most common questions they get when meeting with clients. A fun and insightful conversation about questions we all have.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss the most common questions they get when meeting with clients. A fun and insightful conversation about questions we all have.

Send us Fan MailIn episode 2 of The Seasons of Marriage, Joey & Bill discuss the complexities of growing a family and yet maintaining your marriage relationship.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they delve into the Seasons of Marriage. In this first episode they cover The Early Years and discuss how often we fail to take into account our current circumstances and situations. Despite the ebbs and flow of marriage people often maintain the same expectations, which may not align with the season.

Send us Fan MailJoin Joey & Bill as they discuss Men & Marriage. Culturally men are brought up to restrain their feelings and toughen up, but what affect does that have when trying to build a healthy marriage? Vulnerability is what leads to greater trust and intimacy and yet vulnerability is so foreign to so many men.

Send us Fan MailJoey and Bill venture into the world of AI by asking Chat GPT the Top 5 Reasons People Get Married. Join the conversation as technology meets counseling and we explore the AI generated answers.

Send us Fan MailAfter 40 years together, Jacky & Mike share their experience of Marriage & Ministry and building a kingdom family. The challenges and benefits of a couple, with each being in full-time vocational ministry, learning to live in harmony.