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Seeing Jesus with Paul Miller
by Paul Miller
In this podcast, Paul E. Miller, author of A Praying Life, invites you into a conversation about Jesus and how he lived as a person. Ministry and conversation partners, Liz Voboril and Jon H., join Paul in exploring the details of Jesus' earthly life. In attending closely to the cadences of the one person who lived a perfect life, we gain a clearer vision of what it means to be human. Learn more about Paul Miller and his ministry at seejesus.net.
Episodes
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[WONDER] 14. Soul Work: Rich Young Ruler
Paul, Liz, and Jon continue their conversation, taking this model of the soul and seeing how Jesus uses it in interacting with the Rich Young Ruler. "There has been a wonderful movement in the church in the last century toward grace. But the downside is that Christians now get nervous about calls...
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[WONDER] 13. A Community of Dependence
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their discussion of the soul, widening the conversation to consider how communities function with a kind of "corporate soul." "The state of the soul is shaped by where it is on the J-Curve. And as it goes down into death, that breaks our pride, which is essentially at...
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[WONDER] 12. A Soul In Step with the Spirit
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about learning how to be a person by looking at Jesus. "We've been looking at Jesus' soul, and that's not something that we're used to thinking about. In the church, we sort of generally think of two large categories with Jesus – his deity and then…
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[WONDER] 11. Your Soul Has a Friend
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about the structure of the soul, looking at how the Spirit helps our souls. "If we learn amazing truth at our seminaries but never apply it to our hearts, it's disembodied knowledge. If my will is the steering wheel and my heart is the gas pedal…
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[WONDER] 10. The Soul Is Not a Blob
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about what we learn about the soul, sketching out three faculties of the soul (the will, the affections (loves), and the mind) and how they interact. "The modern word for the soul is the self. But people don't think of the self as a spirit. Our world...
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[WONDER] 9. The Circle of Love
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their study of how Jesus lives in the world and what we can learn from him about living as God intended for us to live. "Because God loves me so much and has the best in mind for me no matter what, then I want to do what he says. When the Circle of Love is working, it…
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[WONDER] 8. Where There's a Will
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about how Jesus lived, looking at different aspects of the soul and how they relate to one another. "A common image is the iceberg: getting down to my motivations, which are often opaque even for us. The whole experience of Christian life operates…
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[WONDER] 7. Dependence: To Pick Up the Crayons or Not?
Paul, Jon, and Liz explore the beauty of submission and why Jesus, fully submitted to his Father, became more vibrant and free. "The modern word that is almost anathema to our culture is submission. Jesus' primary driver for his entire life was his submission to his Father, and he would not call…
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[WONDER] 6. Expanding the Range of our Love: Good Walls, Gentle Intrusion, and Self-Control
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about Jesus and how he loves. In the podcast, they reference a chart on the four ways Jesus loves that you can view here. "When Jesus sets up a boundary, it's because people want him to do something that, in the world's eyes, would be way more…
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[WONDER] 5. Expanding the Range of our Love: Selfless Openness
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about Jesus, reflecting on one of the ways Jesus loves: receiving what other people bring into his life. "Selfless openness is simply being willing to let other people intrude into your world. With Mary Magdalene in the garden, Jesus stays in the...
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[WONDER] 4. Footwashing and the Mechanics of Love
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about how Jesus lived as a human, looking at the footwashing scene in John 13. "Though footwashing was everywhere in the ancient world, it's only in John's gospel where we read a detailed description of the process of footwashing. And this account…
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[WONDER] 3. How to Love a Bully: Jesus and Pilate, Part 2
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their discussion about what Jesus is like as a person, looking at the rest of his conversation with Pilate. "Jesus' authority is so real that he doesn't roll over when talking to Pilate. There are times he stays silent, like at the Jewish trial, but he's actually very...
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[WONDER] 2. Jesus Sees Through Pilate's Mock
Paul, Jon, and Liz begin a two-part conversation about Jesus and Pilate, looking at how differently Jesus navigated this conversation than his Resurrection announcement with Mary. "Usually if a conversation begins with mocking, it can spiral into a serious quarrel, or it can just become immature...
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[WONDER] 1. The Resurrection Announcement
Paul, Jon, and Liz begin a new series about Jesus, called Unexplored Wonder, in which they look at familiar stories and draw our attention to the way Jesus lived as a human. The series begins with the Resurrection Announcement. "What so struck me is how much Jesus leaves space. I think that's...
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[SPECIAL] Reflections on Suffering and the Persecuted Church
Jon recently returned from a trip to Asia, where he was training church leaders, many from the persecuted church. In this episode, he shares some observations from his travels with Paul and Liz. "A recent trip to Asia really brought a lot of eye-opening clarity to me. It wasn't necessarily…
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[SPECIAL] Life Under a King: Interview with Mafdi
Paul and Liz talk with seeJesus Arab World Trainer "Mafdi" about what we can learn about discipleship from someone who lives in a country ruled by a King. "Every believer has things in their life that are 'footwashing' – where you have to do humble tasks that someone might have shoved in your…
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[ADVENT 2025] 2. Fresh Faith Among Students with Robert Row and Christian Graham
Liz and Jon interview our Student Ministry Director, Robert Row, and Mid-Atlantic Coordinator, Christian Graham. "I do think the tide is turning, and there's a shift in the middle of the coming generation, in the younger half of it. I wouldn't describe them as an anxious generation anymore. I'd...
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[ADVENT 2025] 1. The Drumroll of Hope with Jill Miller
Jon and Liz interview Jill Miller, seeJesus' Adaptive Curriculum Writer, about her new Bible study, Advent, and her children's book, Tully's Christmas Mess. You can view these new books and past advent podcasts and blog posts here. "It was December 26, and I put the tree away after it fell down...
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[SPECIAL] How to Lead a Prayer Meeting
Paul, Liz, and Adam Barker, our A Praying Life Ministry Director, sat down to share ideas about how to lead a good prayer meeting -- whether an "official" meeting or any gathering of Christian friends who pray for one another. "I watched my dad over the years leading prayer meetings. There were…
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 15. Sin Identification vs Beauty Formation
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about discipleship, looking at the relationship between sin identification and beauty formation. "Sin identification and beauty formation are mirrors of one another. The beauty of Christ, which God is by his Spirit forming in us, is where we're…
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 14. The High Peaks of Discipleship
Paul, Jon, and Liz reflect on the landscape of discipleship, contrasting the boredom of plains with the beauty of high peaks. "One quality of all the high points is perfection. You see it in Jesus and the Sermon on the Mount's 'Be perfect, even as your Heavenly Father is perfect.' In other words,...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 13. The Role of Beauty in Discipleship, Part 2
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about the quiet role of beauty in discipleship. "Often, we don't see and feel the reality of God's created order, because we've not cultivated an eye for beauty. And that it gives everything a kind of a frivolity. D.C Shindler describes it, 'We don't...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 12. The Role of Beauty in Discipleship, Part 1
Paul, Jon, Adam, and Liz continue their conversation about discipleship, looking at the role of beauty. "Our first tagline at seeJesus was 'helping people see the beauty of Jesus,' and people really struggled to understand what we did. I thought that was because the beauty of Jesus is hard for...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 11. Prayer and Love
Paul, Adam, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about discipleship, considering how learning to pray is related to learning to love. "You could look at prayer kind of like an onion, where the outer layer might be prayer and the next layer is being faithful in prayer, and then all of a sudden...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 10. The Will is Where the Interior and Exterior Meet
Paul, Adam, and Liz continue their conversation about discipleship, looking at the role of the will. "Life is filled with these polarities: Grace or truth? Do I leave space, or do I draw near? At the crux is my communion with my Heavenly Father. Discipleship puts these decisions of daily life…
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 9. Learning to Pray is Learning to Love
Paul and Liz continue this new series with Adam Barker, Director of A Praying Life. "You can try to teach someone to love and give them all the pieces, but if they don't love from the heart, nothing will happen…. Jesus is driving at creating a community of God followers around him, his life and…
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 8. Discipleship is Not Passive
Paul and Liz begin a short new series sharing lessons learned over the years about discipleship. Adam Barker, Director of our A Praying Life Ministry, joins us. "One of the things I do when discipling Christians is I hold them individually accountable. I just go around and ask, 'Did you do the...
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[PASSION] 17. The Glory of Jesus (POJ 5.11)
Paul, Robert, and Liz wrap up this study of Jesus by reflecting on what Jesus tells us about his glory... and what that means for how we follow him. "We would think the glory would be the resurrection, that it would start Sunday. But Jesus says the glory starts Friday… which is just so different...
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[PASSION] 16. Resurrection, Part 2 (POJ 5.9)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about the resurrection of Jesus. "It was the apocryphal gospel of Peter that helped me to realize how much space Jesus left in this Resurrection scene. If you follow what the gospel of Peter says, Jesus comes back from the grave like King Kong…
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[PASSION] 15. Resurrection, Part 1 (POJ 5.9)
Paul, Robert, and Liz begin looking at the first moments after the resurrection of Jesus, examining his interaction with Mary Magdalene. "Mary Magdalene is the first person we know of who turns away from two angels, because they aren't helping her. She's in pursuit, and the angels aren't helping...
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[PASSION] 14. The Cross, Part 2 (POJ 5.8)
Paul, Robert, and Liz finish their conversation about Jesus on the cross, slowly walking through his last seven statements. "Notice how short Jesus' sentences are on the cross. He has to push himself up on his feet to catch a breath and then to be able to exhale that breath without dropping… it...
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[PASSION] 13. The Cross, Part 1 (POJ 5.8)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their slow walk through the last hours of Jesus' life, looking at Jesus and the cross. "There are so many things that Jesus says that are memorable because they're pithy. 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do' is certainly one that has implanted…
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[PASSION] 12. The Trial, Part 2 (POJ 5.7)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about Jesus before Pilate, looking at how close Jesus gets to Pilate's heart. "Jesus has taken Pilate from a mocking question into opening up his heart, then he's received more mocking from Pilate and taken him to truth. The whole thing is kind of…
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[PASSION] 11. The Trial, Part 1 (POJ 5.7)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about how Jesus loves as the cross draws near, turning their attention to the trial scene with Pilate. "Pilate is one of the people in the Gospels who we tend to see through a fairly fixed definition. The scene where he washes his hands is iconic:...
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[PASSION] 10. Symphony of Love (POJ 5.6)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about how Jesus loves as the cross draws near, turning their attention to the scene when Judas arrives at the garden. "We can sometimes be fearful of the kind of honest command or these penetrating questions Jesus asks that unmask evil. Sin grows…
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[PASSION] 9. Gethsemane (POJ 5.5)
Paul, Robert, and Liz resume the Passion series, watching Jesus at Gethsemane. "What saved us from sin and brought joy to the world? It was Jesus' death on the cross. What makes Jesus' death possible? Well, it was his obedience to his father: doing his father's will. When did he set his will...
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[SPECIAL] The First Nativity
Paul, Robert, and Liz take a break from their conversations around the passion of Jesus to reflect on Christmas, and in particular, the story of the first live nativity, created by Francis of Assisi. "Francis of Asissi was probably the first person in the church to be completely enamored with…
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[PASSION] 8. The Sighs of Jesus (POJ 5.4)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about Jesus in his passion, considering what his sighs teach us about being human. "A sigh says so much. We know from Romans 8 that the Spirit himself 'intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words' (Romans 8:26). A sigh, or a groan…
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[PASSION] 7. Facing Death (POJ 5.3)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation on Jesus' passion, looking at how Jesus begins to face his coming death. To celebrate the complete Person of Jesus series, we're offering $5 off of Unit 5: The Passion Leader's Manual (print or digital version) when you use promo code: POD5…
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[PASSION] 6. Betrayed by a Friend
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation on Jesus' passion, turning their attention to Judas' betrayal. In this episode, Paul mentions a talk he gave on Judas several years ago, as part of an audio study called "The Love Course." You can listen to that talk here (or download it to listen...
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[PASSION] 5. The Wailing Warrior (POJ 5.2)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about learning from Jesus in his passion. "Contrary to the typical pictures on a Sunday school wall, Jesus comes down the hill on Palm Sunday weeping – the word is actually closer to 'wailing.' In our experience of humanity, people who wail and...
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[PASSION] 4. Jesus' Sadness Helps Us See His Love (POJ 5.2)
Paul, Robert, and Liz continue their conversation about seeing Jesus in his passion, turning their attention to what we learn from his sadness and grief over the people's rejection of him. "Jesus' words are so tender, 'Your house is left desolate.' We get a picture of broken intimacy or intimacy...
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[PASSION] 3. Taking the Lower Place: A Story (POJ 5.1)
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about the humility Jesus calls us to, looking at what taking the lower place might look like in an everyday moment. "Humility is when your heart is humbled, it's a virtue, a character trait. Humiliation is when your circumstances are humble. It's...
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[PASSION] 2. Foot Washing (POJ 5.1)
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their discussion of Jesus' humility, looking at the foot washing scene in John 13. "This scene reads like a YouTube video. John gives us every move of Jesus, and the effect of it is riveting… especially since he does it all in silence. John's writing this probably 60…
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[PASSION] 1. The Humility of Jesus (POJ 5.1)
Paul, Jon, and Liz start a new series, talking through the Passion unit of our Person of Jesus Study, which looks closely at how all the aspects of Jesus as a person that we've looked at before (his compassion, honesty, dependence on God, and faith) come together in the intense last few weeks of...
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[FAITH] 8. The Woman at the Well, Part 2 (POJ 4.5)
Paul, Liz, and Robert continue their conversation about the woman at the well, looking at the second half of their conversation. "Jesus has already said he has water. Now he says the character of the water is not just spring water. It's not well water that's been sitting there forever. It's not...
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[FAITH] 7. The Woman at the Well, Part 1 (POJ 4.5)
With the Discipleship series complete, we circle back to our Faith series (based on the Person of Jesus Faith Study) to cover a story we had not yet discussed: Jesus' conversation with the woman at the well. Paul Miller, Liz Voboril, and Robert Row look at how this story showcases Jesus'...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 7. The Dangers of Discipleship
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their discussion of discipleship, talking about how the discipling process is a process of moving people out of lukewarm into hot or cold. "The discipling process is a process of moving people out of lukewarm into hot or cold, and that's a good process. You're calling...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 6. The History of Discipleship
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their discussion of discipleship, talking about the history of discipleship practices. "By about 200 AD, every person who wanted to become a Christian went through a year of discipleship. They did this through a form of catechism, or questions and answers, and then the...
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[DISCIPLESHIP] 5. Go Down, Go Low, Go Small
Paul, Jon, and Liz continue their conversation about discipleship. "At the heart of discipleship is not just seeing Jesus and becoming like him abstractly, but actually entering into the patterns of his life. One of the central principles of interpretation of the New Testament is that what…
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In this podcast, Paul E. Miller, author of A Praying Life, invites you into a conversation about Jesus and how he lived as a person. Ministry and conversation partners, Liz Voboril and Jon H., join Paul in exploring the details of Jesus' earthly life. In attending closely to the cadences of the one person who lived a perfect life, we gain a clearer vision of what it means to be human. Learn more about Paul Miller and his ministry at seejesus.net.
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