Smarter Campus Podcast

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Cleotilde “Coty” Gonzalez, Research Professor of Decision Sciences at Carnegie Mellon University, founding director of the Dynamic Decision Making Laboratory, and Research Co-Director of the NSF National AI Institute for Societal Decision Making.Drawing on more than two decades of work across cognitive science, decision-making, and artificial intelligence, Coty explores an important distinction between machine AI and Cognitive AI. Rather than simply recognizing patterns across massive datasets, Cognitive AI seeks to model how humans actually learn from experience, adapt to uncertainty, and make decisions in changing environments.The conversation dives into human-AI teaming, automation bias, cognitive offloading, and the idea of complementary intelligence—designing AI to strengthen human judgment rather than replace it. Coty also explains why these questions become especially important when AI is involved in high-stakes decisions ranging from emergency response to public health.For educators and higher education leaders, the conversation raises an essential question: as AI becomes more capable, how do we make sure students continue developing their own ability to think, question, evaluate, and make decisions?

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Jason Bock, Director of Online Education at the Eberly College of Arts and Sciences at West Virginia University, instructional designer, learning engineer, and AI EdTech founder.Jason brings a fascinating perspective to the AI conversation by connecting it to higher education’s previous shift toward online learning. While COVID forced institutions to adapt quickly, generative AI presents a very different challenge: it isn’t going away, and the technology continues to improve. That reality is forcing educators to reconsider not just how students complete assignments, but what those assignments were actually designed to measure in the first place.A major focus of the conversation is higher education’s reliance on writing as the default form of assessment. Jason explores alternatives like AI-assisted oral exams, role-play agents, and even evaluating students’ AI conversations to better understand how they ask questions, iterate, and think through problems. The conversation also tackles transparency around AI grading and why students deserve to know when AI is being used to evaluate their work.For educators and higher education leaders, this episode offers a practical look at moving beyond the question of whether students are using AI and toward a more important one: How do we redesign learning and assessment for a world where AI is here to stay?

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Matthew Rascoff, Vice Provost for Digital Education at Stanford University, lecturer at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, and education advisor to Anthropic. With a rare vantage point spanning both a leading university and one of the world’s frontier AI labs, Matthew brings a uniquely informed perspective on what AI can—and cannot—do for education.The conversation tackles one of the most important questions facing higher education: does using AI actually improve learning? Matthew warns against “cognitive surrender,” where students offload too much of the thinking process, and argues that institutions need more rigorous evidence about which AI-supported practices genuinely strengthen learning.He also challenges the idea that increasingly intelligent AI will automatically become a great teacher. Teaching requires more than knowledge—it requires empathy, pedagogy, context, and an understanding of how people learn. Rather than waiting for frontier labs to build education for them, Matthew believes educators and students should become active builders, creating domain-specific tools that address real academic problems.The episode explores open-source educational AI, new forms of student assessment, and a future where papers may evolve into interactive agents and shareable digital artifacts. For higher education leaders, this is a thoughtful conversation about preserving meaningful cognitive work while taking full advantage of what AI makes possible.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Corbin Winward, a 3L at Baylor University School of Law and President of the Baylor Plaintiff’s Law Association, to explore how the next generation of lawyers is navigating AI in real time.Corbin offers a student perspective on one of the biggest tensions facing legal education: students need to understand how to use AI, but they also need enough foundational knowledge to recognize when it is wrong. He explains why learning to research cases, analyze precedent, and draft legal arguments manually still matters—even when AI can dramatically accelerate those same tasks.The conversation also explores AI as a force multiplier in plaintiff’s law, where smaller teams often face opponents with far greater resources. Corbin makes the case that responsible AI use can help level that playing field, while also creating a new ethical responsibility for lawyers to balance efficiency with verification and professional judgment.For law professors, students, and legal professionals, this episode offers a grounded look at what AI literacy should actually mean: not outsourcing the work, but understanding the work well enough to use AI intelligently.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Sarah Lanier, a trial attorney at the Lanier Law Firm, to explore how artificial intelligence is changing legal research, trial preparation, professional judgment, and the skills young lawyers will need moving forward.Sarah shares how she has used AI in surprisingly practical ways—from simulating jury selection to accelerating massive document reviews—and why those use cases work best when AI is treated as an ideation and synthesis partner rather than the final decision-maker. The conversation also digs into the legal risks of hallucinated citations, unverified quotes, and over-reliance on generated content.A central theme throughout the episode is the growing value of original human thought. Sarah explains that AI can generate options, organize evidence, and speed up preparation, but it cannot stand before a judge, exercise real professional judgment, or take responsibility for an argument. For legal educators and institutional leaders, the episode makes a strong case for teaching AI proficiency and ethics together.The conversation ultimately offers a practical framework for responsible adoption: experiment actively, build clear review protocols, preserve independent thinking, and prepare students to use AI without surrendering the human judgment that defines the profession.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with John Strong, a full professor in the SUNY system, coordinator of the Personal Training Certificate program, and a nationally recognized expert in health, fitness, and physical education.John challenges the idea that younger generations are automatically better with technology simply because they grew up surrounded by it. Instead, he argues that curiosity, experimentation, and a willingness to fail are what allow people of any age to confidently learn new tools—including AI.The conversation explores why education should focus less on grades and final products and more on the processes that create meaningful growth: asking better questions, collaborating, reflecting, and developing a sense of purpose. John also discusses the relationship between grit and intrinsic motivation, why educators should help students recognize their existing power rather than “empower” them, and how intentional language can reshape the way we approach challenges.For educators and leaders navigating rapid technological change, this episode is a powerful reminder that growth begins when we embrace uncertainty, learn from failure, and reconnect our work to a deeper purpose.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Paul LeBlanc, former president of Southern New Hampshire University and current visiting scholar at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, for a conversation about what higher education must become—not just what it must improve—as AI reshapes the future.Drawing on decades of leadership and his work alongside disruptive innovation pioneer Clayton Christensen, Paul argues that most institutions are focused on using AI to do existing work more efficiently, when the greater opportunity is to fundamentally redesign how education is delivered. Through powerful analogies and real-world examples, he challenges colleges and universities to rethink outdated systems, embrace experimentation, and create cultures capable of meaningful transformation.The conversation also explores the growing importance of human-centered skills in an AI-driven world. From ambient AI that frees advisors to focus on relationships, to the ethical questions surrounding increasingly human-like AI agents, Paul makes the case that higher education has a unique responsibility to lead—not follow—the conversation around the future of AI.For educators, institutional leaders, and anyone thinking about the future of learning, this episode is a compelling vision for what it will take to move beyond simply adopting AI and toward truly reinventing education.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Forrest Close, data scientist and recent University of New Hampshire graduate, to explore what it’s really like entering the workforce in the age of AI. From navigating college during the rise of generative AI to competing in today’s challenging job market, Forrest offers an honest perspective from the student side of this technological shift.The conversation explores how AI has transformed learning, including the growing gap between homework performance and actual understanding. Forrest shares why students should use AI as a guide rather than an answer machine, allowing it to strengthen learning instead of replacing it.The episode also highlights an important lesson for educators and employers alike: as AI makes technical work more accessible, the value of communication, collaboration, and translating complex ideas becomes even greater. Forrest reflects on discovering that his greatest contribution wasn't writing code—it was connecting technical solutions to real human needs.For educators, students, and higher education leaders, this episode offers a thoughtful look at how AI is reshaping learning, hiring, and the skills that will matter most in the future.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Kevin Stump, Chief Program Officer at the Education Design Lab, to explore how higher education can better prepare learners for a rapidly evolving workforce shaped by AI and emerging technologies.Kevin shares why the conversation can no longer be limited to degrees alone. Instead, he advocates for a future built around stackable credentials, visible skills, and stronger partnerships between colleges and employers. By bringing educators, industry leaders, and learners into the same design process, institutions can create more flexible pathways that keep pace with workforce needs while expanding opportunities for students.The conversation also examines the leadership challenges surrounding AI adoption. Kevin discusses why many institutions feel stuck between today's realities and tomorrow's uncertainty, and why empowering early adopters is often the fastest path toward meaningful change. Throughout the episode, he reminds listeners that while AI can accelerate planning and organization, the deeply human work of reflection, writing, and critical thinking remains essential.For higher education leaders, this episode offers a thoughtful roadmap for building more responsive institutions while ensuring students graduate with both meaningful credentials and the ability to clearly communicate the value of their skills.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Nancy Richmond, professor at Florida International University, co-chair of the College of Business AI Teaching Forum, author, and speaker, for a conversation about one of the most important questions facing education today: how do we embrace AI while preserving what makes us human?Drawing from her background in digital marketing, career development, and student wellbeing, Nancy explores how technology has transformed the way we learn, connect, and communicate. While AI offers remarkable opportunities for personalization and accessibility, she argues that the growing importance of human connection, empathy, and authenticity cannot be overlooked.The conversation examines everything from AI influencers and digital companionship to personalized learning experiences that adapt to different student needs and learning styles. Throughout, Nancy emphasizes that experimentation—not perfection—is the path forward. By embracing curiosity, collaboration, and a willingness to fail, educators can discover new ways to support students while maintaining the human relationships that sit at the heart of education.For educators and leaders navigating rapid technological change, this episode is a thoughtful reminder that innovation and humanity are not competing priorities—they must advance together.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Sunaina Sharma, Assistant Professor at Brock University and longtime English educator, to explore one of the most pressing questions facing schools today: What happens when educators feel caught between the promise of AI and the realities of classroom life?Drawing on more than two decades of experience and recent research involving hundreds of secondary school teachers, Sunaina shares how the relationship between students, technology, and learning has fundamentally shifted since the pandemic. While many teachers are already using AI behind the scenes to support their work, uncertainty around policy, parent expectations, and institutional support often prevents them from bringing these conversations directly into the classroom.The episode also examines the growing "revolt" against technology in schools, where some educators are returning entirely to pen-and-paper assessments in an effort to preserve authentic learning. Sunaina challenges listeners to think beyond an either-or mindset, arguing that the real opportunity lies in creating thoughtful guardrails, meaningful professional learning, and classroom experiences that help students understand why their learning matters.For educators and leaders, this conversation is a powerful reminder that the challenge isn't simply about adopting new technologies—it's about building cultures of trust, support, and mutual respect that allow innovation to happen responsibly.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Maritza Concha and Ketty Dones from the University of Central Florida’s Applied AI Innovation Initiative to explore how artificial intelligence is empowering students, nonprofits, and professionals who don’t come from technical backgrounds.The conversation highlights a powerful shift happening across higher education: AI is no longer reserved for computer scientists. Through community partnerships, nonprofit support programs, and classroom innovation, Dr. Concha and Ketty are helping learners use AI to solve real-world problems—from grant writing and program evaluation to healthcare support and community engagement.The episode also tackles some of the biggest questions surrounding AI adoption, including critical thinking, workforce disruption, and the growing need for AI literacy across every discipline. Rather than replacing human expertise, the discussion emphasizes how AI can become a collaborator that helps people work more creatively, strategically, and effectively.For educators, administrators, and community leaders, this conversation offers an inspiring look at how AI can expand opportunity, strengthen local impact, and make innovation accessible to everyone—not just those who know how to code.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Brett Hinson, Vice President of Information Technology and Chief Information Officer at Lipscomb University, to discuss what it takes to lead technology transformation in higher education. With decades of experience across multiple industries, Brett brings a practical and refreshing perspective on balancing innovation, security, and institutional trust.At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: technology should serve people, not the other way around. Brett explains how Lipscomb has approached AI adoption by creating a culture of “maybe” instead of “no,” encouraging experimentation while maintaining the safeguards necessary to protect students, faculty, and institutional data.The discussion also explores how successful AI implementation requires more than selecting the right tools. It depends on collaboration between IT, faculty, administrators, legal teams, and academic leadership. By focusing on simple guardrails instead of excessive bureaucracy, institutions can create environments where innovation can flourish without sacrificing security.For higher education leaders, this episode offers valuable lessons on building trust, reducing fear, and creating pathways for responsible AI adoption that put student success at the center of every decision.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Tawnya Means, founding partner of Inspire Higher Ed, for a conversation about one of the biggest shifts happening across campuses: moving from talking about AI to actually using it. As institutions navigate uncertainty, Tawnya offers a practical and human-centered perspective on what meaningful adoption really looks like.The discussion explores the psychological barriers that often slow progress—fear of complexity, pressure to be an expert, and the frustration of early failures. Tawnya argues that AI adoption doesn’t begin with mastering the technology. It starts with curiosity, experimentation, and creating communities where educators feel safe sharing both wins and setbacks.The episode also highlights an important balance: embracing AI while preserving what should remain deeply human. Through practical examples and institutional insights, Tawnya makes the case that the future isn’t about replacing people—it’s about creating more space for human connection, creativity, and impact.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Daniel R. Kazakos—US Army veteran, strategist, system thinker, and CEO—to explore how AI is reshaping workforce development and changing the way we think about human value in an AI-driven world.Daniel argues that AI is no longer just another productivity tool. Instead, he frames it as a skill—one that requires continuous practice, human judgment, and intentional guidance. Drawing from experiences across healthcare, finance, consulting, and education, he challenges the idea that AI creates shortcuts, emphasizing instead that the people who thrive will be those who learn how to direct, evaluate, and work alongside these systems effectively.The conversation also explores a broader shift in education and career preparation. From helping students build consulting mindsets to identifying opportunities hidden inside large datasets, Daniel makes the case that curiosity and human agency remain central. For educators and leaders, this episode is a reminder that the future belongs not to those who simply use AI—but to those who learn how to shape it.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Marina Aminy, Associate Vice Chancellor and Executive Director of the California Virtual Campus, to explore how AI and system-level thinking can expand access and improve outcomes for millions of students.At the heart of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: keep the student as the “north star.” Marina shares how the California Virtual Campus enables course sharing across 116 colleges, helping students stay on track and graduate faster. From there, the discussion moves into how AI can reduce the friction points that often slow students down—streamlining processes like transcript evaluation, prerequisite verification, and administrative workflows.The episode also highlights a broader shift in education—from static assignments to dynamic, higher-order thinking. As AI changes what students can produce, Marina emphasizes the need to focus on authentic voice, critical evaluation, and real decision-making. For institutional leaders, this conversation offers a clear lens on how to design systems that are more collaborative, more efficient, and ultimately more centered on student success.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Adam Davis, Senior Director of Global Career Services at the American College of Financial Services, to explore how AI is reshaping the connection between education and the workforce. As career services evolves, Adam offers a clear perspective on how institutions can better prepare students for a rapidly changing professional landscape.The conversation highlights a key shift: while AI can handle the heavy lifting—like resume building, interview prep, and research—it also raises the bar for what makes candidates stand out. Adam emphasizes that storytelling, self-awareness, and communication are becoming even more important as AI-generated content becomes more common. In this new environment, the “human edge” is what differentiates students.The episode also explores practical ways institutions can support this transition, from building safe spaces for interview practice to helping students develop “AI agility.” For educators and leaders, this is a thoughtful look at how AI can serve as a co-pilot—freeing up time for deeper mentorship while equipping students with the skills they need to navigate the future of work.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Matthew Ignash, science educator and department head at the American International School of Chennai, to explore a practical and grounded approach to integrating AI into teaching and school systems. Rather than focusing on expertise, Matthew emphasizes experimentation—showing how small, intentional projects can unlock meaningful change for educators and students alike.Drawing on his background in data and assessment, Matthew introduces the importance of systems thinking when working with AI. He explains how clear inputs, clean data, and thoughtful design can prevent the common trap of producing polished but unreliable outputs. The conversation highlights how educators can move beyond using AI for efficiency alone and begin to use it as a tool for deeper learning and problem-solving.The episode also showcases how students can become creators with AI, not just users. From building custom study tools to collaborating across generations, Matthew shares examples that point toward a more active, hands-on model of learning. For educators navigating where to start, this conversation offers a simple but powerful message: begin with curiosity, start with what matters to you, and build from there.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Dr. Elizabeth Pearsall, Assistant Provost for Teaching and Learning at the American College of Financial Services, to explore how institutions can move from uncertainty to intentional AI adoption. Drawing on her background in biochemistry and computational modeling, Elizabeth offers a thoughtful perspective on how AI is reshaping both learning and leadership in higher education.The conversation traces a familiar journey many educators are experiencing—from fear of replacement to curiosity sparked by practical use. Elizabeth emphasizes that successful adoption doesn’t come from isolated efforts, but from shared ownership across campus. By bringing together faculty, IT, HR, and leadership, institutions can create environments where AI is explored responsibly and collaboratively.The episode also highlights a critical shift in what it means to be “literate” in an AI-driven world. Beyond using tools, students and educators must develop the ability to question, verify, and interpret information with skepticism. For higher-ed leaders, this is a grounded conversation about how to start small, build confidence, and create systems that support both innovation and trust.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Mike Evans, senior lecturer in Political Science at Georgia State University, to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping civic education, classroom dynamics, and the skills students need to navigate an increasingly complex world.Drawing from his background studying technological disruption, Mike brings a balanced perspective on AI’s dual potential—its ability to expand access and efficiency, while also introducing new risks and ethical challenges. In the classroom, he’s experimenting with AI tutors and simulation environments that help students engage with opposing viewpoints, practice civil discourse, and develop stronger critical thinking skills.The conversation highlights a broader shift in education: as AI automates more technical tasks, the value of uniquely human skills—judgment, communication, and ethical reasoning—becomes even more important. For educators and leaders, this episode offers a thoughtful look at how to use AI not as a shortcut, but as a tool to deepen learning and prepare students for participation in a rapidly changing civic and technological landscape.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Ann Aust—MD program director, professor, and AI literacy advocate—to explore what should remain at the center of education as AI becomes more integrated into teaching and learning.Ann shares her journey from skepticism to advocacy, offering a grounded perspective on how educators can thoughtfully adopt AI without losing sight of what matters most. Rather than positioning AI as a replacement, she frames it as a tool that can create space for deeper human connection—freeing up time for mentorship, communication, and meaningful engagement with students.The conversation also highlights the importance of intrinsic motivation, curiosity, and vulnerability in both teaching and learning. Ann emphasizes that educators don’t need to have all the answers—they just need to be willing to explore alongside their students. Through practical examples and personal stories, this episode offers a reassuring and actionable perspective for educators navigating the pace of change.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Adam Pryor—AI strategist and former senior administrator—to explore how artificial intelligence is challenging not just how we teach, but how we define learning, intelligence, and even what it means to be human.Rather than viewing AI as a simple tool, Adam introduces a more complex idea: AI as an extension of human capability. The conversation dives into how large language models change our relationship with knowledge, language, and problem-solving—while also raising important questions about authenticity, understanding, and the limits of machine-generated reasoning.At the same time, the episode brings the conversation back to practical action. Adam encourages institutions to create safe, low-stakes environments for experimentation—starting with simple, high-impact use cases that support students and reduce administrative friction. For higher education leaders, this is a thoughtful look at how to approach AI with both philosophical depth and practical intention.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Ronan Shultz, a finance student at the University of Utah, to explore how students are actually using AI to learn, build, and move faster than traditional systems allow. This conversation offers a grounded, student-first perspective on what AI adoption really looks like on the ground.Ronan shares how AI has become a personalized learning partner—helping him translate ideas into code, accelerate research, and tackle projects that would typically require years of experience. Rather than replacing effort, he describes a continuous feedback loop between himself, AI, and his professors—where critical thinking and validation remain essential to the process.The episode also highlights a growing disconnect between how students are using AI outside the classroom and how it’s being addressed within it. For educators and administrators, this conversation is a reminder that students are already building with these tools—and that the opportunity now is to shift from controlling usage to guiding it.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Orly Fuhrman—adjunct professor at NYU, cognitive scientist, and learning experience designer—to explore how artificial intelligence can enhance learning without diminishing the human element at the center of education.Orly shares why the arrival of generative AI felt like a milestone moment for educators who have long struggled to meet every learner where they are. Rather than replacing teachers, she sees AI as a powerful bridge—one that can transform passive experiences like lectures or museum exhibits into interactive conversations where learners actively participate and reflect on their thinking.The conversation also tackles one of the biggest concerns educators face today: authenticity. Orly argues that when AI is used transparently as a brainstorming partner, reflection tool, or support system for complex tasks, it can actually strengthen human creativity rather than dilute it. The key is shifting the focus from final output to the learning process itself.Looking ahead, the episode explores the potential of personalized AI tutors that understand a student’s learning history, motivations, and challenges. For educators navigating this moment of change, Orly offers a clear message: the future of AI in education is not about replacing human intelligence—it’s about designing systems that help it flourish.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Tawnya Means, Founding Partner of Inspire Higher Ed, to explore what it really takes to move AI adoption from conversation to classroom practice. As more institutions experiment with generative AI, Tawnya focuses on the real work of helping faculty build confidence, experiment safely, and integrate these tools into teaching and learning.The discussion highlights a growing shift across campuses: educators are no longer just debating AI—they’re asking for hands-on time to try it. Tawnya shares what she’s seeing succeed in workshops and faculty training, from building custom AI assistants to rethinking assignments to identify where human insight matters most.The conversation also explores the psychological barriers faculty face, including fear of replacement, discomfort with unfamiliar tools, and the pressure of teaching technologies they’re still learning themselves. Through practical strategies like peer storytelling, dedicated learning time, and clearly defining what work remains uniquely human, Tawnya offers a thoughtful roadmap for institutions navigating AI implementation in higher education.

For our 50th episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, we’re stepping back to ask a bigger question: What is school actually for in an age of AI?Zia Hassan—educator, professional coach, and PhD researcher at Johns Hopkins University—joins Zach for a thoughtful conversation about how generative AI is reshaping student motivation, classroom dynamics, and the very purpose of learning. Rather than focusing on tools or tactics, Zia explores how students mature in their AI use over time—learning to protect the parts of their work that make them feel “alive and human” while outsourcing the mundane.The episode challenges control-based approaches to academic integrity and reframes AI not as a shortcut to police, but as a catalyst forcing education to move from “getting the right answer” to “asking the right questions.” Zia makes a compelling case for ungrading, personal knowledge management, and designing productive struggle—all while keeping relationships at the center.As we mark 50 episodes, this conversation captures what the podcast has always been about: not hype, not fear—but deep thinking about how AI can help us build more humane, motivation-driven learning environments.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Kyle Atkins—AI strategist, ethical innovation leader, and PhD candidate in Higher Education Administration—to explore what it really means to bring generative AI into academic environments with intention. Rather than focusing on tools or tactics, the conversation centers on governance, ethics, and the deeper questions institutions should be asking before adoption.Kyle challenges the fixation on prompt engineering and AI detection, arguing that these conversations miss the bigger picture. If AI can easily complete an assignment, the issue isn’t the tool—it’s the design of learning itself. The discussion reframes academic integrity as a human problem, not a technical one, and invites educators to rethink how assessment can better reflect critical thinking, creativity, and growth.The episode also highlights AI’s potential as an equalizer, particularly for students with learning differences who have long been underserved by traditional systems. By positioning AI as a thought partner rather than a shortcut, this conversation offers higher-ed leaders a thoughtful lens on how AI can support more humane, inclusive, and future-ready education.

This special episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast features a conversation from inside the BoodleBox team. Zach sits down with Reilly Stanton, Lead Data Scientist at Boodle AI, to unpack how the platform’s philosophy around safety, clarity, and human-centered design shows up at the technical level.Reilly offers a rare, engineer-first look at how large language models actually work—moving past hype and fear to explain embeddings, tokens, and probability in plain terms. By demystifying the technology, the episode helps educators and administrators better understand both the capabilities and the limits of AI, and why misunderstanding those fundamentals can lead to risky classroom use and misguided policy.Using the metaphor of a “sensible car” versus a Ferrari, the conversation explores why educational AI needs guardrails by design. It also makes a strong case for teaching communication, critical thinking, and ethical reasoning as core AI skills—keeping humans firmly in the loop as AI becomes a normal part of teaching and learning.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Christian Carmody, a doctoral researcher at the University of New Hampshire, to explore one of the most under-discussed questions in AI and education:What is AI doing to our intellectual character?Christian draws a powerful distinction between moral character (how we behave) and intellectual character (how we pursue truth, knowledge, and understanding). Through personal reflection, philosophy, and cognitive science, he unpacks how generative AI introduces a uniquely tempting shortcut—one that doesn’t just risk academic integrity, but quietly reshapes how we think.This conversation explores:The difference between moral wrongdoing and intellectual self-deceptionThe seductive “glimmering ticket” AI offers when we’re overwhelmed“Knowledge laundering” and why unearned understanding erodes trustThe long-term risk of reasoning atrophy when thinking is outsourcedWhy the real harm of AI misuse isn’t grades—but habit formationA Kantian ethical framework educators can use to guide AI decisionsRather than focusing on detection or punishment, this episode reframes the conversation around who students are becoming in an AI-rich world—and what responsibility educators have to explicitly teach intellectual character, not just content.This episode pairs especially well with conversations around post-plagiarism pedagogy and transparent AI policies, offering the philosophical and human counterweight to institutional approaches.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach is joined by Peter Harris to unpack a hard truth about AI in education: tools don’t replace mastery—practice does.Peter introduces the idea of “reps” as the foundation of real expertise. Whether it’s building 100 financial models by hand or defending an investment thesis out loud, deep understanding only comes from repeated, manual engagement. AI can accelerate learning—but only if it’s used as a coach, not a crutch.This conversation dives into:Why experiential learning beats textbook theoryThe difference between outsourcing thinking vs. sharpening it with AIWhy verbal accountability is becoming the most honest form of assessmentHow AI is reshaping the workforce toward orchestration, not task executionWhy liberal arts skills—psychology, judgment, communication—are becoming more valuable, not lessWhat educators must redesign now to ensure students can explain, not just submit, their workFor educators, employers, and students alike, this episode is a wake-up call: in an AI-accelerated world, understanding beats output—and reps still matter.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Michelle Kassorla to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping pedagogy, assessment, and what it truly means to learn.Dr. Kassorla introduces a powerful reframing of Bloom’s Taxonomy for the AI era. If AI can now create first, then the real intellectual work for students begins afterward—through evaluation, analysis, application, and reflection. Rather than resisting this shift, she argues that educators should redesign learning to emphasize process over product.Together, they discuss:Why AI should be treated as a starting point, not an endpointHow “Inverted Bloom’s Taxonomy” changes assignment designWhy grading the journey eliminates the incentive to cheatThe limits of AI detection and the harm of adversarial classroomsHow shared vulnerability between faculty and students builds trustPractical ways to scaffold assignments and assess AI transparencyThis episode offers a concrete, actionable framework for educators ready to move beyond detection and toward learning environments that reward thinking, iteration, and human judgment.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Jose Bowen, author of Teaching with AI and longtime higher-education leader, to explore one of the most important shifts education has ever faced.Dr. Bowen argues that while the internet changed our relationship with knowledge, AI is changing our relationship with thinking itself. As information becomes abundant—but increasingly unreliable—educators are no longer just teaching content. They’re teaching how to think, how to evaluate, and how to work alongside intelligent systems.In this conversation, they discuss:Why AI should be viewed as a thinking partner, not just a toolWhat it means to teach when you’re no longer the “expert in the room”How AI reshapes writing, feedback, and learning processesWhy metacognition and bias awareness are now core educational skillsHow faculty can prepare students for a world where thinking itself is augmentedThis episode is essential listening for faculty, instructional designers, and academic leaders navigating what teaching looks like when AI is embedded into how humans reason, write, and decide.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Judith Cardenas, a higher-education leader and consultant who has been working on AI strategy long before generative AI went mainstream.Judith shares what she’s learned from more than a decade of consulting with institutions and leadership teams—and why AI leadership today has far less to do with being technical and far more to do with curiosity, courage, and comfort with ambiguity.Together, they explore:Why AI leadership is not about being a “techie”How fear (not technology) is the biggest blocker to adoptionWhy faculty need guardrails, not bansWhat it means to lead when no one has all the answers yetHow institutions can balance integrity, innovation, and trustThis conversation is especially relevant for presidents, provosts, deans, CIOs, and faculty leaders navigating AI strategy at the institutional level. Rather than focusing on tools, this episode focuses on mindset, governance, and human leadership in an era of rapid change.If you’re responsible for guiding others through AI adoption—and feel the weight of that responsibility—this episode is for you.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler is joined by Matt Newlin, a higher education consultant with over 20 years of experience in financial aid, equity, and student success.Matt brings a powerful rural perspective to the AI conversation, framing artificial intelligence as a democratizing force—one that has the potential to level the playing field for rural, first-generation, and low-income students if implemented thoughtfully.The conversation explores why many rural educators feel hesitant to adopt AI, the risks of blanket bans, and how institutions can build faculty capacity while still prioritizing critical thinking, equity, and durable skills. Matt also shares practical examples of how AI can support admissions, recruiting, faculty workflows, and student learning—without replacing human judgment.This episode is a grounded, honest look at how AI can expand access and opportunity in higher education, especially in communities that are often left out of emerging technology conversations.In this episode, you’ll hear:Why AI can be a leveling force for rural and underserved studentsThe real fears educators have about “getting AI wrong”How AI can build faculty capacity instead of adding workloadWhy institutions need nuanced AI policies—not blanket bansThe importance of teaching critical thinking alongside AI literacy

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler sits down with Pravin Kaipa to explore creativity, artificial intelligence, and what it truly means to support learning in modern classrooms.Grounded in the idea that “creativity is just intelligence having fun,” this conversation challenges traditional grading models and reframes AI as a guide on the side—not a replacement for educators, but a powerful creative and pedagogical partner.Together, Zach and Pravin unpack how AI can democratize creativity, support differentiated instruction, and open new possibilities for students who have historically been underserved by traditional systems. The episode also dives into how educators can move away from “gotcha” teaching moments and instead use AI to foster curiosity, engagement, and deeper understanding.🎨 In this episode, you’ll hear:Why traditional grading often fails to reflect real learningHow AI can support creativity without replacing human judgmentPractical classroom uses for visual, audio, and multimodal AI toolsThe role of AI in differentiated instruction and special educationWhy AI literacy is becoming essential for educators and students alikeThis episode is a thoughtful reminder that when used intentionally, AI can make learning more human—not less.

This week, I sat down with Dr. Betty Chandy, Director of AI & Technology Enhanced Learning Initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania’s Graduate School of Education — and this conversation is a masterclass in what real AI integration should look like.Betty’s journey is incredible. She grew up in classrooms without even chalkboards… and now leads AI literacy and professional development initiatives at one of the top schools of education in the world. The through-line in her story is powerful:“The key to change is the teacher.”In this episode, Betty breaks down the core tension in education right now:Teachers are being asked to teach in a world that looks nothing like the one they were trained for.Professional development is still treated as “one-and-done,” even though classrooms evolve daily.AI is accelerating change, but teachers often feel unprepared, undervalued, or afraid of being replaced.And yet — she brings a refreshing, grounded optimism.We talk about how to build ongoing professional learning communities, how to teach AI literacy through real-world examples students actually care about, and why IT departments and educators must collaborate instead of working in silos.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler is joined by Austin Levinson, an award-winning international educator with over two decades of teaching experience and a deep commitment to rethinking how we teach critical thinking in the age of AI.From dissecting a Gulf War headline to launching programs that merge design thinking, ethics, and artificial intelligence, Austin’s approach to education is all about creating “learners who wonder.”This conversation explores how educators can maintain the human fingerprint in a world increasingly shaped by technology—and why AI literacy isn’t optional anymore.In this episode, we cover:Why “Unexpected Resistance” became the foundation of Austin’s teaching philosophyHow to teach students to analyze, not just consume, informationThe “fingerprint” method — using AI as a thought partner, not a replacementHow to prepare students (and teachers) for an AI-enhanced worldWhy failure, questioning, and curiosity matter more than everAustin’s work reminds us that education isn’t about creating workers—it’s about developing thinkers who are ready to question, adapt, and create meaning in an AI-driven future.

n this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler talks with Luca Caniato, an 18-year-old freshman at CU Boulder studying finance and management information systems — and already an AI consultant and fly-fishing guide.Luca’s story is a perfect example of what happens when curiosity meets opportunity. From using AI to study, to teaching peers, to landing early consulting work, he shows how students can turn experimentation into real-world impact.🎧 In this episode, we discuss:How curiosity and initiative led Luca to consulting at just 18Why time-saving is the biggest benefit of AI for students and professionalsHow education is failing to teach ethical and effective AI useWhat it means when the job market shifts “from a triangle to a diamond”How students can stand out by knowing what’s up in a changing worldLuca’s message is clear: AI isn’t about shortcuts — it’s about amplifying your curiosity and preparing for a future where those who adapt fastest thrive.

In this Smarter Campus Podcast episode, host Zach Kinzler sits down with Scott Carr, a veteran educator with over 30 years of experience transforming classrooms for students who’ve often been left behind by traditional systems.Scott shares his journey from being a disengaged student himself to spending two decades teaching special education in Milwaukee’s inner city—and now helping districts reimagine alternative education with AI as a catalyst for change.The conversation dives deep into what truly drives engagement: relevance, experimentation, and permission to fail forward. Rather than chasing the next tool, Scott challenges educators to focus on connecting learning to life, freeing up time for meaningful interactions, and building a culture of innovation where educators feel empowered to experiment.In this episode, you’ll hear about:How Scott’s early struggles in school shaped his entire careerWhy disengagement—not technology—is the real crisis in educationHow AI can amplify what great educators already doPractical ways to give teachers permission to tinker and learn togetherA roadmap for small, iterative innovation that makes learning relevant againScott’s story is both grounding and inspiring—a reminder that technology alone won’t transform education, but the people using it can.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach sits down with Galen Ziegler, Assistant Professor of Nursing at Harford Community College, to explore how AI is quietly revolutionizing the world of nursing education.From limited clinical access to overworked faculty, Galen paints a clear picture of the challenges today’s nursing programs face—and how thoughtfully implemented AI tools can bridge those gaps.This conversation goes far beyond theory. Galen shares the four-step AI module she built for her students and unpacks how tools like Google Bard, Google Lens, and Boodle Blocks are helping nurses think more critically, access better information, and prepare for a workforce shaped by technology.If you’ve ever wondered what AI in a high-stakes, human-centered field like nursing really looks like… this one’s a must-listen.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler talks with Mike Kentz, founder of Zentex Educational Advisors and former middle and high school teacher.Mike’s story is one that every educator should hear: he went from actively avoiding AI to building an entire company around helping teachers not just adopt AI—but thrive with it.This isn’t just a conversation about tools—it’s a deep, personal, and empowering discussion about mindset, transformation, and what it means to be an educator in an AI-powered world.In this episode, you'll hear:How Mike spent 8–10 months ignoring ChatGPT—and whyThe book that changed everything (hint: 🧀)Why standardized testing might be the biggest obstacle to real innovationWhat teachers can do today to start learning AI, without pressureHow AI can actually create jobs for teachers—not replace themWhat a future classroom looks like when AI and educators work togetherWhether you’re a teacher, administrator, or education leader, this episode offers a roadmap to AI literacy grounded in honesty, humility, and hope.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler sits down with Michael Curtin, Innovation Coordinator and Adjunct Faculty in Informatics at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.Michael’s path is anything but ordinary — moving between the worlds of video game development and academia, he’s built a rare perspective on how to bridge creativity, technology, and education.Together, Zach and Michael explore how the skills that make great game designers — experimentation, iteration, and imagination — are exactly what higher education needs to navigate the AI era.In this episode, you’ll hear about:How Michael’s work in video games naturally led him to AI innovationWhy universities need “translators” who can bridge technical and non-technical communitiesThe expectation problem — why people think AI should act like every other programWhat makes ChatGPT 3.5 a turning point for higher educationHow AI can serve as a “thought partner” for rapid ideation and creative explorationThe importance of managing hype while embracing potentialMichael’s story shows that the future of education isn’t just about adopting new tools — it’s about rethinking how we connect creativity, communication, and technology across disciplines.

What happens when you hand powerful AI tools to a curious 7th grader? You get insights that most adults overlook.In this special episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler sits down with Dawson Brown, a 7th-grade student from Sacajawea Middle School in Bozeman, Montana. Dawson shares his unique perspective on AI in education—and trust us, he’s got a lot to teach us.Topics covered:✅ Why Dawson prefers BoodleBox over other AI platforms (and what he thinks about Snapchat AI 👎)🎓 How he uses AI to get ahead in math class🧠 His bold claim: “AI has made me smarter”🤝 Why teachers aren’t talking about AI—and why they should⚖️ Dawson’s call for moderation and using AI as a learning tool, not a cheat codeThis is the kind of conversation that will make you rethink how early AI literacy should start—and who should be leading it.Whether you're an educator, a parent, or just someone interested in how the next generation is learning, this episode is a must-listen.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach Kinzler sits down with Matt Biggins, Managing Director of the Wolverine Fund at Utah Valley University and a dynamic force in student-run venture capital.From decathlete to venture capitalist, Matt’s unorthodox journey shapes a unique perspective on AI, education, and the future of work. Together, Zach and Matt explore:How Matt uses ChatGPT as a thought partner—not a crutchWhy today's education systems aren't preparing students for AI-integrated careersWhat soft skills will matter most in the AI ageThe paradox of democratized knowledge vs. shallow understandingReal talk on AI’s impact on job applications, productivity, and creativityMatt’s advice? Use AI to sharpen your thinking, not skip it. And double down on the human skills machines can’t replace.Whether you're a student, educator, or professional navigating this AI-driven shift, this episode will leave you inspired to think deeper, learn smarter, and stay human.

This special edition of the Smarter Campus Podcast flips the mic.In this crossover episode, Sean Amaso—student creative, AI skeptic, and host of the brand-new podcast The Other Side—takes the interviewer seat for his show’s very first episode... and his first guest is none other than Smarter Campus host, Zach Kinzler.Together, Sean and Zach dive deep into:Why balance—not blind adoption—matters when using AIThe true role of human agency in the age of generative techWhat we can learn from the past (like the story of ELIZA)Whether there’s such a thing as “ethical” or “responsible” AIWhy Zach believes AI is a skill—not a shortcutAnd how both shows aim to reshape how we talk about technology in educationThis isn’t your usual tech hype. It’s honest. It’s critical. It’s thoughtful. And it’s the start of a new kind of AI conversation.Welcome to The Other Side.

In this episode of The Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler sits down with Austin French, Director of Career Pathways and Employer Engagement at the University of Maine Farmington and co-host of the More Than the Outdoors podcast.Austin brings a fresh and relatable perspective to AI integration—not as an expert, but as a “casual user” who had to master AI tools out of necessity. Drawing from his background in outdoor recreation and workforce development, he offers an actionable blueprint for educators and professionals looking to harness AI without feeling overwhelmed.Key Highlights:AI for Efficiency: How Austin used AI to streamline his multiple roles, demonstrating that you don’t have to be an expert to get results.Outdoor Meets AI: Why integrating technology into outdoor education matters and how it can increase access and affordability.The 3 C’s Framework: Austin’s roadmap for success—be curious, become competent, and be confident.Career Growth Mindset: Why staying “at the top of the mountain” requires continual learning and adaptation.Student Readiness: How AI can prepare students for the professional world without replacing critical thinking or curiosity.This episode is perfect for educators, workforce leaders, and anyone interested in starting their AI journey with practical, low-barrier steps that create big results.

In this episode of the Smarter Campus Podcast, I sit down with Chris Agnew — ed-tech entrepreneur, experiential learning evangelist, and the driving force behind Stanford’s Generative AI for Education Hub.Chris shares his unconventional journey into AI, from wilderness expeditions and lab schools to leading Teton Science Schools and working in venture-backed edtech during the release of ChatGPT. His background informs a vision for AI in education that is less industrial and more experiential, personalized, and student-centered.We dive into:The mission of Stanford’s Generative AI for Education Hub — to be a trusted, research-driven resource for school leadersWhy privacy, security, and pedagogy matter more than hype in AI adoptionHow research partnerships with districts are uncovering what effective AI use looks like in practiceChris’s vision for transforming education away from factory models and toward more human-centered, hands-on learningThis episode captures a pivotal moment in AI adoption: one where the right balance between innovation and responsibility could redefine education for the next generation.

In Episode 27 of The Smarter Campus Podcast, Zach Kinzler is joined by Princeton University student Samantha Reeves for a deep dive into the evolution of AI on campus—from cautious curiosity to thoughtful critique.🔥 In this episode, we explore:Samantha’s journey from a freshman seminar on digital truth to becoming an active voice in AI ethicsWhy students are eager for formal guidance on AI usage—but aren’t getting it yetHow faculty responses to AI vary widely, with some using it for coding instruction while others still avoid it entirelyPrinceton’s growing focus on ethical AI and the tension between innovation and integrityWhat it means to prepare students for an AI-driven world without sacrificing critical thinking🎧 Whether you're a student, faculty member, or educational leader, this conversation offers a raw and thoughtful look at how one of the world’s top universities is navigating AI's impact on academic life.

In Episode 26 of The Smarter Campus Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Anzar Khaliq, Chief Learning Officer and an outspoken advocate for reimagining education—entirely from scratch.With a background that blends physics, improvisational theatre, radio hosting, and educational leadership, Dr. Khaliq shares powerful insights into what teaching should look like in the age of AI.What We Discuss:Why earning a doctorate doesn’t mean you know how to teachHow AI can rebuild learning models—not just upgrade themPractical ways to use AI for onboarding, assessments, and collaborative faculty dialogueWhat it means to shift from delivering information to fostering curiosityThe importance of community, improvisation, and embracing discomfort in teachingDr. Khaliq’s message is clear: education must evolve faster than it is—and AI is the catalyst to rethink not just how we teach, but why.

In Episode 25 of the Smarter Campus Podcast, host Zach Kinzler sits down with award-winning educator and AI literacy pioneer Tina Austin to explore what it means to navigate, not master, the age of AI in education.In this episode:Tina shares her journey from biomedical AI research to teaching humanitiesHow she created the “Unblooom Method” to reimagine Bloom’s Taxonomy for AI-integrated learningStrategies for helping hesitant faculty ease into AI adoptionHer belief that curiosity—not control—is key to preparing students for the futurePractical advice on designing AI-augmented curriculum that students loveTina’s thoughtful, nuanced approach to AI in education is a must-listen for anyone shaping the classroom of tomorrow.