Take a Leap

It's our next episode in our BYU-Pathway Worldwide collab. Oluchi Peace Egharevba interviews Betty Eguagie Agho, a teacher from Nigeria. Betty faced an incredible decision about her personal life in a very public manner. Look for more upcoming interviews from interns in Uganda, Zimbabwa, Nigeria, and Ghana. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

Hosts Ocean Marshall and Neftali Rodriguez interview Zach and Wyatt Cluff, Latter-day Saint brothers from Meridian, Idaho, who were both called to Farsi/Persian-speaking missions in North America (Zach in San Diego, Wyatt in Toronto). They discuss mission motivations, how they learned Farsi (including online MTC training during 2020), challenges moving from classroom study to real conversations, and limited immersion that improved over time as communities grew. The brothers share how serving among diverse Iranian communities expanded their worldview and encouraged interfaith curiosity, including a Bahai study group and later dialogues with evangelicals, a Muslim imam at iftar, and a Buddhist temple visit. They recount memorable personal stories and end with meaningful Persian phrases like “this too shall pass” and “inshallah” (God willing).

It's our next episode in our BYU-Pathway Worldwide collab. Esther Kisseke interviews Charlotte Adokorah, from Kampala, Uganda. Esther & Charlotte are both small business owners--Esther talks to Charlotte about her struggles as a teenager when she was the main caregiver for her younger siblings. Look for more upcoming interviews from interns in Uganda, Zimbabwa, Nigeria, and Ghana. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

Amanda opens up about her faith journey to the Bahá’í Faith, which she joined five years ago after growing up in a home with Christian and Buddhist parents and identifying as an atheist. She describes how a youth conference in high school introduced her to the Bahá’í focus on unity, community building, and service, shaping her sense of purpose and leading her to stay in Calgary. Amanda explains Bahá’í origins in Persia (1844) and its aim of the unity of mankind and religions, then highlights local initiatives like children’s classes, the Junior Youth Spiritual Empowerment Program, and institute courses. She discusses shifting from engineering to global development studies with a goal of social work, meaningful interfaith conversations at university, the importance of community support, advice for young changemakers, and spiritual habits like prayer and reliance on God.

It's our next episode in our BYU-Pathway Worldwide collab. Oluwadare Gabriel Olaleye interviews Dr. Adebowale Tolulope, a professor at the Nigerian Federal University of Agriculture, who's invested in helping small farmers, and specifically women farmers, produce higher yields with a vegetable feed readily available to them. Look for more upcoming interviews from interns in Uganda, Zimbabwa, Nigeria, and Ghana. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

Aeja & Diego from Wyoming Catholic explain that a major focus of the outdoor leadership program is identity—understanding who you are in relationship to yourself and to those around you. They describe how time in the backcountry, free from distractions and familiar coping mechanisms, strips away comforts and creates space to pray, talk to God, and more fully enter into His presence.

We're introducing a special project! Over the past few months we've worked with interns in Africa to interview people we couldn't reach. Here's the first episode, with intern Jesulolami Olubowale, who interviewed Reverend Oluwagbemiga Ajayi, a full-time minister within the Anglican Communion. Rev Ajayi went from a profitable career in pharmacology to the Anglican ministry, all to answer the call he felt from God. Look for more upcoming interviews from interns in Uganda, Zimbabwa, Nigeria, and Ghana. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

Shadi Martini shares his story as a Syrian aid worker in Bulgaria who found a mattress for an elderly refugee couple and was later thanked with an emotional hug. The conversation shifts to the guest’s background growing up in diverse Aleppo, attending a Christian school as a Muslim, and how Syria’s conflict pushed him into secret medical aid while managing his family’s hospital amid severe regime brutality. Martini describes fear, trust, moving his family to the U.S., and faith-based motivation to act. They discuss interfaith cooperation, including being approached by Israelis, advice to stay humble, building friendships across religions through openness and honesty, hope from trusted mixed-faith teams working in places like Gaza and Syria, and closing advice to be genuine, step outside comfort zones, value community over money, and believe good deeds are rewarded.

Joshua Ali, a Trinidad and Tobago international gospel minister, worship pastor, producer, songwriter, musician, and Grammy member, talks about using faith and music to change lives. Joshua shares how faith became personal through encounters with God, the tension between ambition and obedience as an artist, and struggles including chronic health issues and two miscarriages. He explains how his song “You Made It” began as a two-day trailer commission (“Long Way Home”) and was later reshaped during grief. Joshua views music as worship and a God-given tool for encouragement and healing, recounting testimonies of healing during worship, emphasizing community as essential, advising against hiding faith, and encouraging reliance on Jesus through prayer, scripture, and private worship.

In this Take A Leap episode, Daniel Richter shares how he realized faith and music should work together: after over a decade in the mainstream Top 40 industry, Daniel Richter switched to Christian music about a year ago and began leading worship three years ago. Daniel says using music as ministry matters because he wants Jesus to be famous, not Daniel Richter, and emphasizes the biggest challenge is getting people to listen while trusting God over metrics. Richter explains the switch was confirmed when an investor’s funding stopped after prayer, and staying grounded comes from prayer and reading the Bible, not performance.

Take A Leap Hosts interview Christian musician Kaégan about faith, songwriting, and purpose. Kaégan, raised by worship-pastor parents, says his love for God and music grew in church and that as a quiet pastor’s kid he began using songwriting to help others feel included and consider Jesus. He explains his song “Water” reflects giving his life to the Lord at six and learning that life changes suddenly while God’s promises remain, shaped by losses like his grandfather in 2018. He describes a lyrics-first creative process, finishing songs when no edits remain, and influences from Steven Curtis Chapman, for KING & COUNTRY, U2, The 1975, and Coldplay. He discusses co-writing, Bible reading, community, social-media detox, and trusting God, previews “Stronger,” and advises seekers to trust God with their lives.

On Take a Leap, hosts Ocean Marshall and Neftali Rodriguez interview Mariah Zavala (Pascua Yaqui; also Oaxacan and Puerto Rican), a Flagstaff-based community advocate, ultra runner, and business development professional at Mountain Mojo Group. She shares how ultra running (beyond a marathon) became prayer and advocacy, including racing in traditional clothing with a red handprint to raise awareness for murdered and missing Indigenous people. She discusses endurance as surrender, flexibility, and self-care; chairing Flagstaff’s Indigenous Commission; serving on Girls on the Run Northern Arizona; and founding the Anya Collective/Yaqui Tribe Rafting Experience with Grand Canyon Youth and SPL Sports Inc., rafting 10 youth (ages 11–14) to build leadership and self-worth. She emphasizes authenticity, mentors, feedback, and “be the community you wish existed."

In this Take Leap podcast episode, Neftali Rodriguez interviews Rachel Lief, a senior at NYU and future medical student, about her journey with faith and interfaith work. Rachel discusses her Jewish faith's impact on her values and actions, particularly in social justice and health equity. She reflects on her evolving religious identity, her involvement in interfaith initiatives, and her experiences with religious diversity at NYU. Rachel shares insights on the importance of interfaith collaboration in addressing global issues and offers advice for young people exploring their faith.

In this episode of 'Take a Leap', hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall converse with Sabah Ahmedi, a British Muslim imam, about balancing faith and modern life. Ahmedi shares insights on his spiritual journey, the meaning of 'Take a Leap', dealing with misconceptions about Islam, and the importance of interfaith dialogue. He also discusses the influence of prayer, gratitude, and how Islam aligns with broader human values like justice and peace.

In this video, Ocean interviews Jaleesa about her ideal place to live and her faith journey. Jaleesa shares her deep-rooted belief that faith is an action and responsibility, and how it has influenced her leadership, particularly in founding the Raising a Village Foundation. The nonprofit supports underserved children and families in Washington, DC. Jaleesa discusses the impact of faith on young people's resilience and leadership and details how her spiritual perspective shapes her mentoring approach. She emphasizes the importance of community and offers advice on staying grounded in values and purpose.

In this episode of 'Take a Leap,' hosts Neftali and Ocean, interview Mirabelle Morah, a motion designer and founder of Grohwie. They discuss Mirabelle's journey in using her faith and creativity to make a social impact. Mirabelle shares her background, experiences, and the role of faith in her career. She emphasizes the importance of patience, community, and staying grounded in her beliefs while working in multicultural spaces. Maribel advises young people to pursue big dreams with determination and faith, sharing personal stories of how her faith guided her big decisions and creative initiatives.

Sadie Dahl, recently on The Voice, joins us to talk about how prayer was a huge part of her experience on the NBC singing reality competition television series. Plus, what it's like to work with Snoop Dog.

Replay of Ocean and Arriza discussing Arizza's work as a global peace advocate and co-founder of Kris for Peace, a nonprofit promoting peace in conflict-affected areas of the Philippines. Kris for Peace has generated significant impact through libraries, education support, and youth programs. Arizza shares her personal story of growing up in a mixed-faith household, challenges faced, and the importance of interfaith dialogue and action. She emphasizes the role of education, youth empowerment, and faith in fostering peace and social cohesion. Arizza also discusses overcoming skepticism, the power of community, and the need for active listening and purpose.

In this episode of the Take Leap podcast, hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall interview Ashley Breinholt, a student studying neuroscience and Chinese at Brigham Young University. Ashley recently won second place in the global finals of the Chinese Bridge competition, celebrating Chinese language and culture. She shares her experiences, discussing her favorite Chinese foods, the impact of faith and prayer on her confidence, and the importance of understanding different cultures. Ashley emphasizes the value of humility, perseverance, and seeking help to succeed. She encourages listeners to take opportunities to learn and grow, linking her linguistic skills and international experiences to her future career and personal goals.

Hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall interview Dallin Bundy, a 2025 Truman Scholar and a senior studying political science at BYU. The discussion covers a range of topics, including Dallin's love for silent discos, his interest in epic fantasy literature, and his journey to winning the Truman Scholarship. Dallin shares valuable insights on the importance of civil discourse, the impact of political violence on community cohesion, and his commitment to fostering peacemaking and political engagement. The episode concludes with actionable advice for young people to stay politically active, show up in their communities, and maintain a balanced life.

Jennifer Eburuoh, a PhD student in international relations at American University. Jennifer shares her journey, detailing her Nigerian American faith background, her work with the UN Refugee Agency, and her study of environmental science. She discusses how her faith motivates her service and advocacy work and provides insights into her experiences in Uganda and the importance of being a good listener. The episode concludes with advice for young adults on navigating career paths rooted in service and justice.

Jeremiah Paltan, a singer-songwriter from the Bronx, New York, shares his journey intertwining faith and music. Paltan shares his experiences as a pastor's kid, his early introduction to music, and how his faith has shaped his musical career. He highlights the importance of community in sustaining faith, his path to finding his spiritual identity, and the humbling experiences of having his music featured on television. Jeremiah also reveals his upcoming album 'Found in Lost City,' set to release on November 14th, and discusses how making music has been a way for him to overcome struggles and inspire hope in others.

Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall announce a break of new interviews until January 20th while teasing fun social media content and re-released favorite episodes. They reflect on memorable interviews with guests like artist Jeremiah Paltan and travel influencer India, highlighting the integration of faith in their careers. The hosts also discuss their personal growth from the podcast, appreciating the diverse perspectives of young achievers. They express excitement for the next season, hinting at exciting future guests and engaging social media activity.

Safa Ahmed discusses how faith and religion can be likened to a tree that offers support and bears fruit through good deeds. She reflects on her experiences as a Muslim, her journey in activism, and the challenges faced by Indian Muslims. Ahmed emphasizes the importance of faith guiding advocacy for justice and fostering unity among diverse communities. She recounts her journey of reclaiming her Muslim identity and her work with the Indian American Muslim Council (IMC) in raising awareness about the injustices faced by Muslims in India. She also shares motivational insights for young people to integrate faith with activism.

In this episode of the Take Leap podcast, hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall interview Ashley Breinholt, a student studying neuroscience and Chinese at Brigham Young University. Ashley recently won second place in the global finals of the Chinese Bridge competition, celebrating Chinese language and culture. She shares her experiences, discussing her favorite Chinese foods, the impact of faith and prayer on her confidence, and the importance of understanding different cultures. Ashley emphasizes the value of humility, perseverance, and seeking help to succeed. She encourages listeners to take opportunities to learn and grow, linking her linguistic skills and international experiences to her future career and personal goals.

In this episode of Take A Leap podcast, host Neftali Rodriguez engages with Yehuda Webster to discuss his passion for integrating faith and activism. Yehuda, inspired by his Jewish heritage and experiences with racial injustice, shares his journey from organizing in New York to connecting with his Igbo Jewish roots in Nigeria. The conversation delves into their current hobbies, the role of faith in social justice, and personal leap of faith moments, culminating with Yehuda's advice to immerse oneself in service and prayer to find meaning and purpose.

Ocean and Arriza discuss Arizza's work as a global peace advocate and co-founder of Kris for Peace, a nonprofit promoting peace in conflict-affected areas of the Philippines. Kris for Peace has generated significant impact through libraries, education support, and youth programs. Arizza shares her personal story of growing up in a mixed-faith household, challenges faced, and the importance of interfaith dialogue and action. She emphasizes the role of education, youth empowerment, and faith in fostering peace and social cohesion. Arizza also discusses overcoming skepticism, the power of community, and the need for active listening and purpose.

In this episode of the Take a Leap podcast, hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall interview India McCue, a world traveler, thrifter, photographer, and podcaster. India discusses her journey into wedding photography and how her creative and entrepreneurial ventures have shaped her life. She emphasizes the importance of integrating faith into her business, maintaining authenticity, and seeing work as an act of worship. India also shares insights from her travels, highlighting the beauty of different cultures and the humbling realization of God's vast creation. She encourages young creatives to pursue their passions fearlessly with faith.

Bushra Amiwala, an activist and elected official born to Pakistani immigrants in Chicago, made history as the first Gen Z elected official in the U.S. by joining Skokie's School District Board at a young age. She discusses her journey, fueled by gratitude for her opportunities and influenced by her Muslim faith. Bushra shares her experiences overcoming challenges, the importance of faith and intention, and offers advice on navigating politics and civic engagement while emphasizing self-care.

Jennifer Eburuoh, a PhD student in international relations at American University. Jennifer shares her journey, detailing her Nigerian American faith background, her work with the UN Refugee Agency, and her study of environmental science. She discusses how her faith motivates her service and advocacy work and provides insights into her experiences in Uganda and the importance of being a good listener. The episode concludes with advice for young adults on navigating career paths rooted in service and justice.

In this episode, we sit down with Albarka Wakili, a Master of Divinity student at Drew Theological School and a 2025 GreenFaith Rising Leader Fellow. Originally from Nigeria, Albarka shares how his name—meaning blessing—guides his path, and how his journey across continents has deepened his faith. He opens up about witnessing climate change firsthand, the hope that sustains him, and the moment he realized faith, justice, and the environment are inseparable. From tending Drew’s Theo Community Garden to engaging in global initiatives and meeting leaders like Ban Ki-Moon, Albarka reflects on how working with the soil reveals God’s presence in creation. With wisdom and humility, he offers practical steps for young people who want to care for the earth, bridging the sacred and the practical in everyday life.

Jeremiah Paltan, a singer-songwriter from the Bronx, New York, shares his journey intertwining faith and music. Paltan shares his experiences as a pastor's kid, his early introduction to music, and how his faith has shaped his musical career. He highlights the importance of community in sustaining faith, his path to finding his spiritual identity, and the humbling experiences of having his music featured on television. Jeremiah also reveals his upcoming album 'Found in Lost City,' set to release on November 14th, and discusses how making music has been a way for him to overcome struggles and inspire hope in others.

Hosts Neftali Rodriguez and Ocean Marshall interview Dallin Bundy, a 2025 Truman Scholar and a senior studying political science at BYU. The discussion covers a range of topics, including Dallin's love for silent discos, his interest in epic fantasy literature, and his journey to winning the Truman Scholarship. Dallin shares valuable insights on the importance of civil discourse, the impact of political violence on community cohesion, and his commitment to fostering peacemaking and political engagement. The episode concludes with actionable advice for young people to stay politically active, show up in their communities, and maintain a balanced life.

In this episode of Take A Leap, host James talks with Carolina França, a Gordon College graduate and science teacher, about how faith and environmental stewardship intertwine. From conservation research to the classroom, Carolina shares how her sense of calling fuels both her teaching and climate advocacy. She highlights the power of small, community-driven actions, the role of faith in caring for creation, and her experiences leading initiatives from school clubs to international conferences. Find more from Carolina on Instagram: c.franca24

In this episode of Take A Leap, James sits down with Kenzie Meyer and Neftali Rodriguez. Kenzie shares how her path shifted from studying music education at Montana State to becoming a campus minister at Southern Utah University. From life-changing experiences in Kenya to her work with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, Kenzie opens up about helping students embrace faith during the pivotal college years—offering wisdom on overcoming fear, seeking purpose, and leaning into the unique journey of student life.

In this episode of Take A Leap, host James is joined by Ocean Marshall and Saigel Ghotra, a Sikh American senior at UC Berkeley. Saigel shares how Sikh values inspire her studies in political science, social welfare, and public policy, fueling her mission to create opportunities for marginalized communities. She reflects on her personal journey, her time as a Sikh Lead DC intern with the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund, and the challenges that have shaped her path. Along the way, Saigel highlights the power of empathy, open-mindedness, and interconnection—reminding us that what unites us is often stronger than what divides us

What does it mean to blend purpose with style? In this episode, we revisit our conversation with Nava Esmailizadeh about how fashion can be a tool for change. Nava is the Head of Brand at Ambercycle and the creator of the cycora® brand, where she works to bring circularity and sustainability to the center of fashion design. Guided by her Bahá'í faith, Nava shares how our generation can make the world a better place in new and unique ways. She inspires us to think about how we can make a difference, and look good doing it.

What do hiking boots, gas station snacks, and a deep love for the earth have in common? In this episode, we sit down with Becca Black—ecologist and senior in BYU’s Wildlife and Wildlands Conservation program—for a conversation about faith, stewardship, and finding God in the natural world. From long hikes in Wisconsin to getting snacks at Kwik Trip, Becca shares how she came to see ecology as both a calling and a spiritual practice. Now serving as Communications Co-Director for Grow the Flow, a nonprofit working to preserve the Great Salt Lake, Becca opens up about the personal experiences that led her to environmental advocacy. Together with the Josh and Lia, she reflects on sacred experiences in nature and what it means to care for creation. So, grab your favorite trail mix, touch some grass, and enjoy this episode of Take a Leap.

What happens when legal briefs, late-night self-care, and radical faithfulness all show up in the same story? In this episode, we revisit our conversation with Sarah Johns—lawyer, advocate, and recent graduate of BYU’s J. Reuben Clark Law School—for a conversation about faith, resilience, and taking care of yourself. From working with the Êzidi people in the wake of trauma to building bridges between the LGBTQ+ community and people of faith, Sarah brings both heart and legal insight to everything she does. Sarah was recently awarded the 2024 LGBTQ Advocacy and Service Award, and her voice is one you’ll want to remember—especially if you’ve ever wondered how to hold fast to both justice and joy. So, pop on a face mask, make some hot chocolate, and enjoy this episode of Take a Leap.

If you love the intro to our show, this episode is for you! Sit back, relax, and listen as our team discusses our "man on the street" interviews. Have you left a hate comment before? Do you have any strange superstitions? What is your worst date story? You'll find some BYU students' answers to these questions and so much more in this episode of Take a Leap.

How have role models shaped your life? In this episode, we revisit our November 2024 conversation about leadership with Sarah Sun and Tala Alnasser. Sarah Sun was the Student Body President of BYU in 2024 and was the first Asian American to be crowned Miss Utah in 2023. She was the first person in her family to join the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at age 17. Sarah is an accomplished musician and plays more than 10 instruments. Tala Alnasser was the Student Body Executive Vice President of BYU in 2024, and the first Muslim VP in BYU student body leadership. She was born in Jordan, speaks three languages, and is writing an honors thesis on the Christian gaze. She went undefeated in the chess Olympiad for Jordan. Sarah and Tala dive into the importance of women in leadership, role models, leading in your community, and how our individual faiths can strengthen our leadership capabilities.

Ever wondered what it takes to make service impactful in a college community? In this episode, we revisit our November 2024 conversation with Drew Goldston, the President of BYU's Y-Serve service council. Drew shares how the council oversees Y-Serve’s 70 volunteer programs, ensuring that both volunteers and recipients have meaningful and rewarding experiences. A student at BYU majoring in Economics and minoring in Information Systems, Drew talks about his journey into service, from his early involvement with Y-Serve to leading the council. He also highlights the spiritual side of service at BYU, where each meeting begins with prayers and hymns, reinforcing the university’s commitment to lifelong service. With stories of how even small acts of service can create big changes, Drew encourages everyone to find a way to contribute, no matter their interests. His advice? Embrace service as a transformative experience and make it a part of your personal mission. Whether you're passionate about service or just curious how to get involved, this episode is full of inspiration for everyone.

What does it take to build a brand that’s about more than just the product? In this episode, we sit down with Sadie and Abby Bowler—sisters, entrepreneurs, and co-founders of SadieB Personal Care—to explore how a simple idea became a movement. Blending a love for high-quality beauty products with a passion for supporting girls’ mental wellness, SadieB isn’t just about hygiene (though yes, showering is important, guys)—it’s about empowerment, purpose, and divine direction. The Bowlers share how their faith fueled their leap into business, what it means to be “anxiously engaged” in good causes, and the impact personal care products can have on how we view ourselves. Whether you're dreaming up your own venture or just trying to take the next right step, this episode is full of insight, inspiration, and heart.

What happens when faith meets TikTok—and chooses radical inclusion? In this episode, we revisit our November 2024 conversation with Rev. Brandon Robertson—author, activist, public theologian, and the internet’s beloved “TikTok Pastor.” With over 250,000 followers and millions of views, Brandon has become a leading voice in progressive Christianity, using social media to share a message of love, justice, and inclusion. Brandon shares his journey from a difficult childhood to becoming a pastor, and how his evolving theology now embraces LGBTQ+ inclusion and interfaith connection. He also talks about the power and pressure of social media ministry—writing books, making content, and responding to hate with grace. This episode is a thoughtful look at what it means to live out faith with humility, courage, and compassion in the digital age.

Ever felt the pressure of being single in a relationship-driven world? In this episode, we revisit our November 2024 conversation with Mallory Everton and Diana Brown, creators of The Soloist Podcast. They dive into the complexities of being single within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, sharing their personal experiences of navigating societal and religious expectations around marriage. Mallory, a comedian, actor, and writer known for her time on Studio C, and Diana, Assistant Director of Interreligious Engagement at Georgetown University, offer valuable insights into the challenges and rewards of being single in a faith-driven community. They delve into the emotional toll of unmet expectations, how faith can guide us through life’s uncertainties, and the importance of finding worth beyond relationships. With humor and heart, Mallory and Diana highlight the need for more inclusive, empathetic conversations about singleness in church communities. Their advice? Embrace wholeness, lean on community support, and focus on creating a narrative where success and happiness are not defined by relationship status. Whether you’re single or want to better understand your single friends, this episode is packed with wisdom and compassion for everyone.

What does it look like to follow Jesus in the face of climate change? In this episode, we revisit a powerful conversation with Lauren Kim, National Organizer and Spokesperson for Young Evangelicals for Climate Action (YECA). Originally aired in November 2024, this episode explores Lauren’s journey into environmental activism—shaped by her Evangelical faith, her sister’s asthma caused by land burning, and her deep love for God’s creation (especially cows and horses, thanks to her time in Texas). Lauren believes deeply in the mission of environmental stewardship as a practice of obedience, kindness, and radical love toward Jesus and His creation. A graduate of the University of Virginia in Global Security and Justice, she brings both academic insight and spiritual conviction to her mission. She also highlights the role of YECA in equipping young Christians to respond faithfully to the climate crisis and the importance of collaborating across faith traditions for the common good. P.S. Please don’t spontaneously book a flight to Idaho without a plan. Be safe out there.

James and Lia discuss their journey through season one of Take a Leap. What did they learn? Were they even qualified for their job? Did James ever try that Red Bull? Find out in this recap episode of Take a Leap! Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

This week, Anna Bryner and Elyse Slabaugh drop some wisdom about freedom of religion. Good news—turns out it's not just for lawyers! They talk about sticking up for people of other/no faiths, and why Gen Z should even care about freedom of religion. Stick around to the end to hear what law school taught Anna and Elyse about Christ being our perfect advocate. Anna and Elyse are attorneys who are passionate about Freedom of Belief. They are the Co-Chairs of the Rising Generation Initiative for the International Center for Law and Religion Studies (ICLRS), where they empower young adults to become leaders in advancing religious freedom worldwide. They are passionate about building a world where everyone everywhere is treated with respect and has the freedom to live according to their beliefs without being persecuted. Based in Lehi, UT, Anna spends her free time hiking national parks, growing sunflowers, exploring choral music, and cheering for BYU sports. Now working in Maryland, Elyse enjoys traveling, listening to jazz, reading historical fiction/non-fiction, and running. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

Moshe Nigri, the rabbi at the University of Utah, tells James and Lia about the importance of being someone's friend before sharing your religion. He also talks about how our generation is searching for purpose and suggests that the solution is—you guessed it—a connection with God. Moshe Nigri is the Rabbi at the largest Jewish student organization in Utah, with over 120 Jewish students involved. The organization gives classes, organizes events and celebrates Jewish holidays together. Their main mission is to make the next generation of proud Jews who will carry on the faith of Judaism, and of course spreading love to the world. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.

In this special live event, BYU football players Connor Pay and Chase Roberts give James and Lia (and our live audience) the scoop on their new podcast, Two Point Conversion. They talk about what football has taught them about Christlike service and leadership, and what their podcast has taught them about balancing gospel study, school, athletics, and more. So sit back, relax, and learn from Connor and Chase's collective wisdom. Chase and Connor are the hosts of Two Point Conversion, a Come Follow Me podcast produced by BYUradio, and team captains for BYU football. Connor served a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Washington D.C. and majored in entrepreneurial management. He's now preparing for the NFL draft. Chase served a mission in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and will return to BYU football for the 2025 season. Take a Leap is a production of BYUradio.