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That UFO Podcast
by That UFO Podcast
Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena Hosted by Andy McGrillen
Episodes
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The White House vs UFO Gatekeepers: Who Controls the Evidence?
Is the White House trying to bypass the people keeping UFO secrets, and why are scientists still struggling to access the evidence? Andy and Pavel discuss Ross Coulthart’s reporting on alleged UAP operations at White Sands, questions surrounding Jake Barber and Skywatcher, and Garry Nolan’s...
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UFO Cover-Up Claims & Pentagon Fallout, with Ben Schreckinger
I’m joined by journalist Ben Schreckinger to discuss his reporting on the escalating dispute between Jay Stratton and Sean Kirkpatrick. After Stratton alleged that Kirkpatrick was compromised by a secret UFO legacy programme, Ben contacted the former AARO director for a response. Kirkpatrick…
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12 UFOs at Lockheed? Unpacking Jay Stratton’s Claims
In a special midweek show, I’m joined by Pavel to dig into Jay Stratton’s new book, Out of the Shadows. Does it move the UFO conversation forward, or leave us with more claims than answers? We discuss: • Claims that Lockheed held 12 recovered non-human craft and that reverse engineering had...
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Jay Stratton: Out of the Shadows | Review & Listener Reactions
I review Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, exploring the former UAP Task Force director’s biggest claims, personal experiences and the questions his account leaves open. From Hal Puthoff’s foreword and allegations of recovered craft to Skinwalker Ranch, Holloman and the roles of Elizondo and...
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UFO Arms Race, Eric Weinstein & Jay Stratton’s Book Preview
Andy is joined by Pavel to discuss claims of a UFO arms race, US–China technological competition and the questions surrounding mysterious drone incursions. We unpack Eric Weinstein’s comments on Diary of a CEO, revisit the fallout from David Grusch’s Rogan appearance and examine excerpts from Jay...
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Lenval Logan: “We’ve Seen Better” | Grusch, UAP Footage & The Phenom App
Former UAP Task Force member and retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst Lenval Logan returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation following David Grusch’s latest appearance on Joe Rogan. Logan reacts to Grusch’s new claims, discusses what was being talked about inside the UAP Task...
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Elizondo in DC & Bledsoe’s “New Knowledge”
I’m breaking down Lue Elizondo’s latest interview with Martin Willis on Podcast UFO, including his government role, comments on crash retrieval secrecy and the questions surrounding his relationship with David Grusch. Then, Chris Bledsoe’s October 7th “new knowledge” prediction and the launch of...
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Grusch’s Rogan Fallout & Jake Barber’s UFO Mothership Claims
Andy and Pavel unpack David Grusch’s latest Joe Rogan appearance, from human-looking beings and alleged alien encounters to his confidence that disclosure is coming. Why have his comments divided the UFO community, and where is the evidence? We also discuss Jake Barber’s claims of a cylindrical...
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David Grusch on Joe Rogan: New UFO Claims & What Changed
David Grusch’s second Joe Rogan interview takes his UFO claims much further. But what did he actually say, what has changed, and what questions remain? Join me as I break down his account of retrieval footage showing human-looking bodies, alleged encounters with reptilian beings, NHI conflict,...
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Jay Stratton’s New Revelations, James Fox Responds & The UAP Secrecy Problem
Andy and Pavel break down Jay Stratton’s latest comments ahead of Out of the Shadows, including his claim that he can reveal “a lot more than people think,” previously untold UAP events, questions over the history of AAWSAP/AATIP and why government appears to keep starting again. Plus, James Fox...
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Doomer Friday: “Something Else Is Running the Show” | Dylan Borland, Bigelow & The Tonopah Mystery
** Support the pod & get your personalised plan - hims.com/thatufo ** Doomer Friday returns for a deep dive into another huge week in the UFO story. We break down Dylan Borland’s appearance with Sean Hannity, including his extraordinary claims about who, or what, may really be “running the show,”...
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UFO Whistleblowers: Can They Trust PURSUE? | Tehran UFO & Vallée’s Contact Claims
Who is behind PURSUE, and why should UFO whistleblowers trust it? I’m joined by Pavel to discuss the unanswered questions around PURSUE’s call for whistleblowers, the viral footage from Tehran, and Jacques Vallée’s intriguing account of alleged communication with a non-human entity. We get into…
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Unfinished Business: Danny Sheehan - The Beings, Contact & Disclosure | Members Preview
What does Danny Sheehan believe is happening behind the secrecy surrounding UFOs and what supports his claims? In this extended preview of Unfinished Business, my new members-only series, I bring together around 90 minutes of conversations with lawyer Daniel Sheehan, built around your questions.…
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Karin Austin: John Mack, Experiencers & the Disclosure Problem | Part 2
In Part Two, Karin Austin tells the story of meeting Harvard psychiatrist Dr John Mack and how their relationship changed the way she understood her experiences. Karin discusses Mack’s approach to people reporting extraordinary encounters, the work they did together, their friendship, his death…
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Karin Austin: Abduction, Contact & the Experience That Changed Everything | Part 1
In Part One of my conversation with Karin Austin, we explore the extraordinary experiences that have shaped her life. Karin describes unusual encounters going back to childhood before recounting the intense period of experiences that began again in her twenties - including missing time, apparent...
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A quick update! (No Bombshells...)
A quick update on the new interviews and shows coming your way, including more from Danny Sheehan, some major upcoming guests and a few hints at what could be around the corner. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships:...
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The Cote Photo: The Best UFO Photograph Ever Taken? | Adam Pillon
In 1971, a Costa Rican government mapping aircraft photographed Lake Cote every 13 seconds. Frame 299 showed nothing unusual. Frame 300 captured a metallic, disc-shaped object. By frame 301, it was gone. Nobody onboard saw it at the time. Andy is joined by filmmaker Adam Pillon to discuss The…
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The Cote UFO Photo, Whistleblowers, Demons & Secret Archives
Andy and Pavel dig into another busy week of UFO news, claims and controversy. They examine the remarkable 1971 Cote UFO photograph, Dylan Borland’s alleged experiences and “demonic” interpretation of the phenomenon, Diana Pasulka’s thoughts on possession and NHI, and the growing debate around...
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Diana Pasulka: The Others, UFOs, AI, Death & the Vatican
Dr Diana Pasulka returns to discuss her new book, *The Others*, in a wide-ranging two-hour conversation exploring UFOs, AI, religion, death, consciousness and Disclosure. We get into who or what “The Others” may be, whether UFO belief is becoming a new religion, the links between anomalous...
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David Grusch Back on Rogan? Trump’s “Starfleet” & the Next Disclosure Push
Todays Sponsor - hims.com/thatufo , by using the link you support me directly Andy joins Pavel and Missile Man Jack to discuss reports that David Grusch could be returning to Joe Rogan, and whether a second appearance might deliver the next major moment in the disclosure story. Also covered:...
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Doomer Friday: Skinwalker, Bigelow & the Disclosure Question
On this episode of Doomer Friday, I join Clint, Pavel and Justin for a deep dive into Robert Bigelow’s latest podcast conversation with current Skinwalker Ranch owner Brandon Fugal. We get into some of the more intriguing claims and stories surrounding the Ranch, the wider mystery around…
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Special Announcement
A quick announcement from me, appreciate you listening :) 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts:...
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100 Recovered UFOs, Non-Human Biologics & Atlantis? The Biggest Claims Examined
This week, Andy and Pavel examine some of the biggest claims in the UFO world. From Eric Davis’s revelations on the podcast and Tim Gallaudet’s possible Atlantis discovery, to Lazar’s nine recovered craft, Grusch suggesting the real number could be between 25 and 100, and more whistleblowers...
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Dr Eric Davis: Recovered Craft, NHI Bodies and Government Contact
Dr Eric Davis joins Andy for a major conversation about recovered UAP technology, NHI bodies, alleged government contact and decades of secret reverse-engineering efforts. Davis begins with his bottom line up front, explaining why he believes UAP are real, controlled by non-human intelligence and...
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Whistleblowers Turn to Trump & Who Watches the Gatekeepers? | Doomer Friday
I’m back on Doomer Friday, joining Clint, Pavel and Xander, with Chris Ramsay of Area 52 also dropping in for a wide-ranging conversation on where the UFO disclosure story goes next. With a growing number of whistleblowers publicly calling on President Trump to waive their NDAs, we discuss…
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Danny Sheehan: “They Have At Least 9 Recovered UFOs” | Golden Dome & ET Contact
Danny Sheehan returns to That UFO Podcast for another wide-ranging conversation on the hidden structures he believes sit behind the UFO secrecy and disclosure process. In this interview, Danny makes some extraordinary and highly specific claims. He says there are at least nine recovered craft…
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David Grusch Goes Further, Bigelow’s Big Questions & Pressure on Trump
Andy and Pavel break down another huge week in the UAP conversation, beginning with part two of Robert Bigelow’s new series with George Knapp. Why has Bigelow returned to the spotlight now, and what is he ultimately building towards? The discussion gets into his claims around consciousness and...
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Danny Sheehan, Chris Ramsay & Richard Dolan | The Biggest UFO Conversations
Three huge conversations. One special compilation. This episode brings together some of the standout moments from my recent interviews with Danny Sheehan, Chris Ramsay and Richard Dolan, covering some of the biggest questions facing the UFO topic right now. From disclosure, secrecy and what may…
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“You Don’t Talk About It” | A UK Police Inspector Investigates UFOs
Today’s sponsor - hims.com/ThatUFO Inspector Roy Teague is a serving UK police officer, researcher and author of Close Encounters of the Police Kind, a collection of UFO and unexplained encounters reported by British police officers. Roy joins me to discuss what he learned from speaking with...
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Skywatcher Goes In-House? Ross Coulthart’s White Sands Claims & UAP Crash Retrievals
Andy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart’s extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet. Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation…
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Dylan Borland, Bigelow’s Disclosure Plan & UAP File Drop 5 | Doomer Friday
Buy Andy's book here - https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a huge discussion after another packed week in UAP news. We break down Dylan Borland’s extensive interview with Jesse Michaels, including whistleblower retaliation, restitution, disclosure and the…
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Danny Sheehan: Grusch’s Hidden Role, AARO Failures & the UAP Power Struggle
Constitutional attorney Danny Sheehan returns for one of our most direct and grounded conversations yet. Danny reveals what he says was a previously unknown role played by David Grusch in reviewing challenges to the security clearances of Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon following their involvement...
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UFO Disclosure in Crisis: Whistleblowers, Waived NDAs & the Elizondo-Gerb Fallout
Andy joins Pavel for a deep dive into an increasingly divided UFO disclosure movement. They examine the new UAP NDA waiver, Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland’s warnings about AARO, ODNI and PURSUE, and whether whistleblowers are genuinely protected or being directed back into the same system they...
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Chris Ramsay: Bob Lazar, Underwater UFOs & What He Really Believes
Area 52 creator Chris Ramsay joins Andy for a wide-ranging conversation about how a magician and puzzle creator with seven million subscribers became one of the most distinctive voices in UFO media. Chris explains why he remains low-conviction on most claims, how remote viewing and his…
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Jonathan Caplan KC: UFO Secrecy, Majestic 12 and the Case Beyond Reasonable Doubt
Andy is joined by Jonathan Caplan KC, one of the UK’s leading criminal barristers and the author of Not for Disclosure: UFOs, The World’s Best-Kept Secret. Drawing on five decades of interest in the subject, Jonathan explains why he believes the UFO phenomenon is real, why governments have kept…
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UFO Disclosure or Disinformation? Grusch 3 Years On, Elizondo, Erdman & the NDAA
Andy is joined by Pavel from the Psychoactivo Podcast to take stock of a UFO topic caught between apparent political progress, persistent secrecy and growing frustration. Three years after David Grusch’s historic congressional testimony about recovered craft and non-human biologics, has…
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What Is Hidden Beneath Antarctica? UFOs, Secret Bases and Hollow Earth with Brad Olsen
Author, explorer and researcher Brad Olsen joins Andy to investigate the enduring mysteries surrounding Antarctica. Brad recounts his own journey to the frozen continent before exploring the extraordinary claims connected to Admiral Richard E. Byrd, Operation Highjump, alleged German bases…
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BREAKING NEWS: Trump Removes the UAP NDA Barrier | Is Disclosure About to Advance?
President Donald Trump has reportedly directed government agencies to waive non-disclosure agreements for former officials and contractors who want to share relevant UAP information through authorised federal channels. In this breaking news episode, Andy examines what the decision actually means,...
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Trump’s Puzzling Message to Dr Phil & “Next-Level” UFO Files Coming?
Andy and Pavel return to break down the latest developments surrounding the US government’s UFO disclosure push. Dan Farah claims another tranche of evidence could arrive within weeks, with “next-level extraordinary stuff” potentially being released before the end of the year. Meanwhile, Dr Phil...
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Living Beings, Avatars or AI? Inside the UFO Occupant Mystery
What if the biggest UFO mystery is not the craft, but the beings inside them? Anthropologist Peter Skafish returns for a deep dive into the alleged occupants behind UAP. Are they biological beings, engineered avatars, artificial intelligence, or something stranger still? We explore why witness...
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Did the US Government Lure UFOs? | Amnesty, Moon Monoliths & Antarctica
Andy is joined by Pavel from Psicoactivo Podcast to discuss claims that the US government successfully lured or baited UAP during a classified operation. They examine what the recently released files actually establish, whether officials have developed methods for attracting mysterious orbs, and...
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UFO Files Release 4: NASA Images, Pantex Incident & Secret Documents
Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years. Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and...
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1: Jason Samosa Part 2: The Collins Elite, Hybrids & The Disclosure Control System
Jason Samosa returns for part two of our huge conversation, as we move deeper into the Collins Elite, religious interpretations of the UFO phenomenon, demonic narratives, alien deception, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement. We discuss whether some within government and intelligence...
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Jason Samosa Part 1: Nazis, Roswell & The Hidden Roots of UFO Secrecy
Jason Samosa joins me for part one of a huge conversation tracing the UFO topic from the post-war era through Roswell, Cold War secrecy, private industry, religious influence, and the early roots of disclosure resistance. We discuss claims around Nazi technology, Operation Paperclip, why the...
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Skinwalker, Skywatcher & The UFO Civil War
Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo. In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker...
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Roswell Week, Legacy Program Pressure & The “Something Is Coming” UFO Rumour Cycle
Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community. In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments…
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Michael Herrera: The Marine Who Says He Saw a Secret UAP Operation
Former United States Marine Michael Herrera joins That UFO Podcast to discuss his alleged 2009 encounter in Indonesia involving a massive advanced craft, armed personnel, and a story that has only become darker and more complex over time. We get into what he says he saw, why he believes the…
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The UAP Legacy Program Fallout: Elizondo, Gerb, Coulthart & Controlled Disclosure
In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation. Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called...
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The Disclosure Forum, A UFO Czar & Controlled Disclosure | Doomer Friday
Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it. We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards,...
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UAP Cover-Up: Is Disclosure Entering Phase Two?
This week’s UAP news is moving fast. Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation...
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