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The Case For... (with Matthew Campobasso)
by matthew.r.campobasso
Courtroom trained. Purpose driven. Deeply Human. After 20 years practicing law, Matthew Campobasso turns courtroom skills — evidence, cross-examination, closing arguments — on the questions that actually keep us up at night: connection, identity, stress, relationships, mental health, and what it truly means to be well. Each week, Matt (and his guests) make the case for something, building the argument exhibit by exhibit. Nothing performative — legal reasoning meets real self-improvement. New episodes weekly. Subscribe to The Case For — a podcast about personal growth, honesty, and living well.
Episodes
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The Case For Trusting Yourself: How To Make a Hard Decision When You're Not Sure
"I'm just not sure yet" may be one of the most expensive sentences we say. After twenty years of practicing law and watching people make high-stakes calls with incomplete information, Matt Campobasso has come to believe that feeling sure and making the right decision are two completely different...
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The Case for Settling: Why Winning the Argument Often Costs You the Thing You Wanted
When someone says "I'm not going to settle," they usually mean they refuse to be the one who loses. But after twenty years inside other people's disputes, Matt Campobasso has come to believe we have gotten settling wrong. It isn't what you do when you can't win. It's what happens when both sides...
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The Case For 249 No's
At twenty-nine, Matt Campobasso had a good job. Steady, secure, nothing wrong with it. He also had two hundred and fifty cover letters, a printer that ran for a month, and a question he was afraid to find the answer to. In this episode, Matt makes the case that the question you're afraid to ask…
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The Case For Changing Your Mind
Changing your mind isn't weakness — it might be the most disciplined thing you can do. In this episode, trial-attorney-turned-general-counsel Matt Campobasso makes the case for "reopening the record": the courtroom instinct that tells us to keep an open mind until all the evidence is in, and why...
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The Case For Traveling Light
This is episode fifty of The Case For — and it felt right that it landed on an episode about starting with almost nothing and building something worth carrying forward, one week at a time. I have always been someone who needs to travel light. I could probably fit what actually matters to me into…
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The Case For Quiet Discipline
I want to talk about the least interesting thing that will ever change your life. It’s not a breakthrough or a revelation or a crisis that forces you to rebuild. It’s the thing you do on a Tuesday that nobody sees. The decision you make at 6am that nobody applauds. The promise you keep with...
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The Case For The "Deep End"
It's late August 2006. I'm twenty-eight years old, sitting in my office on my first day as an Assistant State's Attorney in McHenry County, Illinois. I've been filling out health insurance forms for ten minutes when the Chief of the Criminal Division walks in, tosses a case file on my desk, and...
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The Case For Listening To Your Gut
I want to tell you about a man I used to work with. His name was Ian Turvill. For several years at the Chicago law firm Freeborn & Peters, our offices shared a wall. Ian was the firm’s Chief Marketing Officer. He was genuinely kind, genuinely funny — the kind of humor that made you feel like you...
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The Case For Raising Kids Who Can Handle Hard Things
My seven-year-old daughter came home from school recently and I could see it on her face before she said a word. A friendship had shifted. She’d been left out. She was hurt. And my instinct — the one that fires before I have time to think — was to fix it. Give me a name. I’m calling a parent. Let...
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The Case For Knowing What You Actually Want Out of Your Career
entire life. But at some point, the question stops being hypothetical. It becomes real. And that’s when most people go quiet. Because the honest answer, for a staggering number of adults, is: I don’t know. I’m twenty years into practicing law. I’ve been a prosecutor, a litigator, a law firm...
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The Case For Taking the First Step
My twelve-year-old daughter came home from a family wedding recently. She’d missed two and a half days of school. She opened her laptop, saw the list of assignments she’d missed, and completely shut down. Eyes filling up. Breathing getting short. She looked at me and said: I don’t even know where...
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The Case For Letting Go (or Why I Wrote My First Book)
It’s a weeknight in 2012. My son is three years old. His hair is wild and curly and he’s lying next to me in bed with his hand across my chest. He whispers three words: “You’re here now?” I tell him I am. But my phone is already lit up on the nightstand. I have a hearing at 8:30 the next morning....
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The Case For Doing Something You’re Bad At
I bought a guitar about seven years ago. Beautiful acoustic. I was going to be the dad who plays guitar. I could already picture it — me on the back porch, strumming Damien Rice while my kids listened. I was terrible. My fingers didn’t understand the assignment. My transitions sounded like a cat...
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The Case For Saying "Hello"
You’re sitting in a coffee shop on a Tuesday morning. There are fifteen people in the room. Someone two tables over laughs at something on their phone and you almost ask what was funny. They’re reading a book you’ve read. They’re wearing a hat from a city you used to live in. There’s a flickering...
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The Case For Defending Someone You Disagree With
More than ten years ago, a kid at a Law Day event asked me a question that stopped me dead: have you ever had to represent someone who you knew had done something wrong, and how did that make you feel? I’d been practicing law for more than five years. I’d been a prosecutor and a litigator. I’d...
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The Case For Not Keeping Every Ball In the Air (or The Case For Knowing the Difference Between the Glass Balls and the Rubber Balls)
I woke up on a Sunday morning a few weeks ago and before my feet hit the floor, the list started. Work. Inbox. Calls. The podcast. The book. My kids. Laundry. Mail. Commitments I hadn’t honored. All of it landed in the first sixty seconds of being awake. And what I felt was not motivation. It was...
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The Case For Only Saying I’m Sorry When You Have Something to Be Sorry For
Count how many times you say “I’m sorry” tomorrow. Not after a genuine mistake. Just in the normal course of your day. Sorry, can I ask a question? Sorry, I’m running two minutes late. Sorry, but I actually disagree. Sorry, I didn’t see your email. Sorry, can I get by you? Most of us say it…
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The Case For Showing Up When It’s Not Your Fight
There’s a poem most people have heard but few have sat with. Martin Niemöller wrote it after the war — after — as a confession, not a warning. He was describing his own silence. His own repeated, rational decision that each new injustice was not his problem. By the time he realized they were all...
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The Case For Not Oversharing Online
At the end of Avengers: Endgame, Steve Rogers is sitting on a park bench. He’s an old man. He’s lived a quiet second life. His friend sees the wedding ring and asks: do you want to tell me about her? And Steve Rogers smiles with absolute grounded peace and says: No. No, I don’t think I will. He...
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The Case For Damien Rice’s O as the Album That Makes You Feel the Most
I spent $45 as a broke law student to have this album shipped across the Atlantic Ocean from Ireland. It was grocery money, textbook money, train money. I had no business spending it on a CD. And more than twenty years later, it remains the single greatest musical purchase of my life. This is not…
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The Case For Teaching Your Kids to Disagree With You
My sixteen-year-old son recently told me I was wrong about something. Not with an eye roll or a sigh or something muttered under his breath. He sat across from me, looked me in the eye, laid out his reasoning, and told me — respectfully and clearly — that he thought I was handling something the...
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The Case For the "We" Mindset (with Jan Yuhas and Jillian Yuhas)
In a courtroom, the goal is adversarial. Me versus you. My evidence against yours. There’s a winner, a loser, and a rope that’s pulled until it snaps and one or both sides fall. We’ve been conditioned to think this is the only way to solve a problem — by defeating the person on the other side of...
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The Case For Admitting You Don't Know Enough
I have formed opinions without doing the work. I have voted on things I didn’t fully understand. I have nodded along in conversations where I should have said, actually, I don’t know enough about that to weigh in. This episode isn’t about politics, although we’ll touch politics. It isn’t about...
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The Case For Not Having It All...All At Once (with Valeria Gutowski)
When was the last time someone asked how you were doing and you said “busy”? We’ve built a culture that treats having it all as the baseline expectation. Be the best at your job. Be the best parent. Be the most present partner, the most available friend — and do all of it simultaneously. And if...
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The Case For Being the Same Person in Every Room
How many versions of you are out there right now? Think about the version of you that shows up at work. The one that shows up with old friends. The one at the dinner party, the family gathering, the client meeting. How many adjustments do you make in a given week — not to how you communicate, but...
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The Case For Not Borrowing From Tomorrow Tonight (with Fiona McEntee)
In my world, we talk a lot about liquidated damages — money you agree to pay upfront if a contract is breached later. But there’s a different kind of liquidated damage we deal with every single week. It’s the interest we pay on the night before. We’ve all been told that alcohol is a social...
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The Case For Moneyball as the Most Professionally Helpful Movie Ever Made
What if the most professionally useful film ever made isn't a documentary, a TED talk, or a business book—it's a Brad Pitt baseball movie? In this episode, host Matt Campobasso puts Moneyball on trial as the most professionally helpful movie ever made. Through six exhibits, he argues that what...
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The Case For Employers As The Answer to America's Health Crisis (with Cara Lenz)
What if the most powerful healthcare provider in America isn't a hospital—it's your employer? In this episode, host Matt Campobasso puts a radical idea on trial: that employers are uniquely positioned to solve America's health crisis. His guest, Cara Lenz—leadership transformation coach, former...
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The Case For Avoiding the Ten-Second Trap (or Why Our Snap Judgments Are Making Us Lonely)
In a career spanning more than 100 formal depositions, host Matt Campobasso has watched the full spectrum of human behavior under pressure—the liars, the saints, the corporate warriors, and the whistleblowers. And every single time, a witness says something in the first five minutes that tempts…
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The Case For The Legal Builder (with Sal Carranza)
The Case For the Legal Builder Model In the fall of 2008, a new technology quietly appeared that most people dismissed as a curiosity. But as a professional and legal operator,Salvador Carranza saw something different—not a toy, but a "front door" being rebuilt from the ground up. In this…
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The Case For The "Right" Fit: Why Resumes Don't Win Gold Medals
In February of 1980, the world witnessed what we now call a "Miracle." But as an attorney and executive, Matt Campobasso has learned that miracles aren't about luck—they are about engineering. This episode explores the "Brooks Model" of leadership, inspired by a weekly 1:1 conversation between…
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The Case for Pearl Jam as The Best Band of All Time (with Pat Noonan)
"I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you’ll be a star in somebody else's sky, but why... Why, why can't it be mine?" Most trials are built on cold, hard facts—contracts, forensics, and fingerprints. But in this episode of The Case For…, host Matt Campobasso argues that the most...
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The Case For Being a Swiss Army Knife
In this episode of The Case For…, host Matt Campobasso—an attorney managing the legal function for a billion-dollar company and a father of three—sits down to challenge the most pervasive myth in professional development: the cult of the specialist. We are taught to be scalpels: precise, narrow,...
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The Case For Starting Over (Even When It's Terrifying) (with Brooke Marsalla)
"If you don’t authorize the match, the forest will eventually choke itself out." In this episode of The Case For…, host Matt Campobasso sits down with Brooke Marsalla to examine the architecture of professional and personal reinvention. After 15 years as a high-end corporate trainer and sales...
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The Case For Thinking Upstream
"Fix fast if you must… but redesign slowly on purpose." In this episode, Matt Campobasso uses his background as a father of three and a full-time attorney for a $1 billion company to make a compelling case for moving "upstream". Using the famous Dan Heath fable of the two fishermen, Matt explores...
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The Case For Not Letting Outrage Do Your Thinking
Outrage is everywhere right now—and it’s powerful. It mobilizes you fast. It also makes you sloppy. In this episode, Matt Campobasso pulls from his time as a prosecutor and litigator to make a simple case: the internet is basically one endless opening statement, and we keep doing what a courtroom...
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The Case For Not Setting Yourself on Fire To Keep Others Warm
We hear it everywhere now: “Don’t set yourself on fire to keep others warm.” But what does that actually mean in real relationships—and what happens when people use the phrase as a weapon to dodge accountability? In this episode, Matt Campobasso makes the case that “setting yourself on fire”...
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The Case For Staying in the Tough Rooms (Even When You'd Rather Leave)
In this solo episode of The Case For, Matt makes the case for staying in the tough room—especially when you’d rather leave. He shares an early-career courtroom story involving a relentlessly fair and demanding judge who once put Matt's eye roll on the record and warned he’d hold him in contempt…
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The Case For Creating Instead Of Consuming
The Case For Creating Instead Of Consuming We live in a world built for consumption—feeds, headlines, videos, endless input. But most growth doesn’t come from taking more in. In this episode, we make the case for creating instead of consuming. Not becoming a content machine. Not chasing…
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The Case For Starting Again on a Random Tuesday
The Case for Starting Again on a Random Tuesday We love fresh starts—January 1, Mondays, birthdays, clean slates. But most real change doesn’t wait for ceremony. In this episode, we make the case for starting again on a random Tuesday—the unglamorous, ordinary moments where life is actually...
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The Case For The Movies, Television Shows, and Songs That Kept Me Company in 2025
In this episode of The Case For…, I do something a little different: no moral dilemma on the stand, no heavy cross-examination—just a heartfelt case for the stories and songs that quietly walked beside me in 2025. I share my five favorite movies, five favorite TV shows, and five favorite songs of...
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The Case For Not Reducing People To Their Worst Moments
In this episode of The Case For…, I make the argument that none of us should be reduced to the worst thing we’ve ever done — including the people who’ve hurt us, and including ourselves. We talk about how easy it is to grab someone’s lowest moment, freeze it in time, and turn it into their...
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The Case For "All I Want For Christmas Is You" As The Last Great Christmas Standard
It’s the holidays, so we’re keeping it light — and making the case for a song that has basically become a December law of nature: Mariah Carey’s “All I Want for Christmas Is You.” In this fun seasonal episode of The Case For…, I break down why this track feels less like a “new” Christmas song and...
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The Case For Protecting Kids From Social Media
In this episode of The Case For…, I take on a topic that honestly scares me more than almost anything as a dad: raising kids in a world soaked in social media. We start with what’s happening in places like Australia, where there’s serious movement toward banning or heavily restricting social…
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The Case For The Chicago Bears Being The Better Franchise Than The Green Bay Packers
In this episode of The Case For…, I do the unthinkable: I make a serious, good-faith case that the Chicago Bears are a better football organization than the Green Bay Packers — and no, I’m not ignoring the last 30 years of pain or the Lombardi trophy count. I dig into what “better” really means...
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The Case For Men Saying "I'm Lonely" Out Loud
In this episode, I finally take on a topic I’ve been circling for a long time: male loneliness. I talk honestly about seasons where my life looked “together” from the outside but felt empty on the inside, and how men learn to hide behind lines like “I’m fine,” “just tired,” and “I’ll figure it...
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The Case For Empathy
The Case for Empathy - Empathy gets talked about a lot. Practiced? Not nearly as much. In this episode, I make The Case for Empathy—not as a soft ideal or a social media slogan, but as a daily discipline. One I work at imperfectly. One I believe matters deeply. And one I’m trying to model for my...
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The Case For The Imperfect Holidays
On this episode of The Case For…, I am making a bold but necessary argument: the perfect holiday is wildly overrated. In The Case For the Imperfect Holidays, host Matt Campobasso makes the case that the stress, expectations, family dynamics, awkward moments, and inevitable chaos aren’t holiday...
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The Case For The Definitive Christmas Movie (with John Hammerle)
What’s the definitive Christmas movie? Not “one of the good ones” — the one. In this special Versus episode of The Case For…, I bring in longtime friend, film lover, and fellow lawyer John Hammerle to battle it out: Home Alone vs. A Christmas Story. I make the case for Home Alone as the ultimate...
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The Case For Letting Your Kids See You As Human
Being a parent can feel like you’re supposed to be the rock—always calm, always right, always “fine.” In this episode of The Case For…, Matt makes The Case For Letting Your Kids See You As Human. Matt talk about his son and two daughters, what he learned from his own parents, and why going back…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Courtroom trained. Purpose driven. Deeply Human. After 20 years practicing law, Matthew Campobasso turns courtroom skills — evidence, cross-examination, closing arguments — on the questions that actually keep us up at night: connection, identity, stress, relationships, mental health, and what it truly means to be well. Each week, Matt (and his guests) make the case for something, building the argument exhibit by exhibit. Nothing performative — legal reasoning meets real self-improvement. New episodes weekly. Subscribe to The Case For — a podcast about personal growth, honesty, and living well.
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