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The Contemplative Pastor

by Practicing the Way

For the pastor who longs to embody a less hurried, less overwhelmed, less CEO-like form of leadership, and to recover the ancient path of pastoring in the way of Jesus.The Contemplative Pastor invites you into illuminating conversations with guides and sages on spiritual and pastoral formation, and offers guided prayers and reflections to help you sit with the rich wisdom of each episode.Our aim? To shape a new, yet ancient, kind of pastor—more unhurried, more prayerful, more peaceful—and to see the formational role of the local church flourish once again.Welcome to The Contemplative Pastor.---To find more resources and experiences tailored just for you—the pastor—visit practicingtheway.org/pastor ( http://practicingtheway.org/pastor ).This podcast and its episodes are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. You can learn more about The Circle or contribute toward future resources like this podcast at practicingtheway.org/give ( http://practicingtheway.org/

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Episodes

  1. The Pain You Don’t Want to Name (Featuring Jeff Hyun)

    What does it mean to be a person who is attended to? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Jeff Hyun for a conversation about the potential for pain to become the place of our deepest formation. Jeff shares the story of being left by his mom when he was five years old and how their…

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  2. Getting Free from the Weight of Secrets (Featuring Gavin Bennett)

    What if confession could be a place of healing, not just pardon? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Gavin Bennett for a conversation about the practice of confession—why we're afraid to embrace it, and the belonging that waits for us when we do. Gavin shares how his years-long practice of...

  3. Pastoring from the Ground, Not the Mountaintop (Featuring Beau Hughes)

    What formation might we experience in choosing remaining over constant reinvention? In this episode, join Jay Kim and Beau Hughes for a conversation about choosing to keep showing up—to a church, to a practice, and to the pain of the people in our care. As his 19 years at The Village Church…

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  4. Paying Close Attention to Your Season (Featuring Tara Beth Leach)

    What would it look like to build rhythms that respond to lives that are always changing? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Tara Beth Leach for a conversation about shepherding through the ups and downs of real life—our own and the lives of the people in our care. Tara Beth recalls how...

  5. What Grows When We Stay (Featuring Jess Gracewski)

    What might happen if we decided to stay—in a place, in a community, in a calling? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Jess Gracewski for a conversation about what we might gain—and risk—by choosing to commit to a community and a place. Jess describes how she’s building spaces of belonging…

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  6. Discerning Weariness from Woundedness (Featuring Glenn Packiam)

    What happens when we make peace with the reality that there are no ideal conditions in which to pastor? In this episode, join Jay Kim and Glenn Packiam for a conversation on finding “your little patch of the world” to be the pastor God has called you to be. Glenn traces the through line of his...

  7. When the Yoke Doesn’t Feel Easy Anymore (Featuring Bill Dogterom)

    What if our weariness as pastors isn’t a sign of failure, but rather a sign that we’re measuring success by the wrong metric? In this episode, Bryan Rouanzoin and Bill Dogterom seek to reconcile Jesus’ promise of an “easy yoke” with the pervasive weariness so many pastors experience today. Bill...

  8. Letting God Burn Away the Fantasy Self (Featuring Todd Pickett)

    What if the most vital work of spiritual formation isn’t first in your church, but in the hidden story you’re already living with God? In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Todd Pickett for a conversation on what it means to truly be a contemplative, and the fruit of a life lived this way....

  9. Pastoring in the Presence, Not Absence, of God (Featuring Alan Fadling)

    How can we pastor without sacrificing our own souls on the altar of hurry and anxiety? In this episode, join Jay Kim and Alan Fadling for a wide-ranging conversation on the inner pace of pastoral ministry. Drawing from over four decades in ministry, Alan explores what it means to practice the...

  10. The Kind of Pastor the Kingdom Flows Through (Featuring AJ Sherrill)

    What if your primary pastoral work isn’t building the Kingdom, but becoming the kind of person the Kingdom can flow through? In this episode, join Jay Kim and AJ Sherrill for a conversation about contemplative pastoring in an age of efficiency and comparison. In this conversation, Jay and AJ...

  11. A Conversation Between John Ortberg and John Mark Comer (Part 2)

    How can we suffer personally and alongside others without losing our joy? In this episode, join John Mark Comer and John Ortberg for the second part of their conversation exploring the possibilities and pitfalls in the pastoral vocation. In these final movements of the interview, John shares...

  12. A Conversation Between John Ortberg and John Mark Comer (Part 1)

    What is my shadow mission? In this episode, join John Mark Comer and John Ortberg as they explore the possibilities and pitfalls in the pastoral vocation. They discuss the dangers of over-relying on giftedness, the importance of detaching from outcomes, and the power of identifying what John…

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  13. Becoming A Creative Pastor (Featuring Tyler Staton)

    How is this era in church history inviting us into creative exploration? In this episode, Tyler Staton invites us to recover a renewed sense of pastoral imagination. Drawing from the creation account in Genesis, he reflects on God as a creator and artist, considering what it means for pastors to...

  14. The Hidden Life (Featuring Gemma Ryan)

    Is there a gap between our public and private life? In this episode, Gemma Ryan invites us to consider the hidden life beneath our ministry and leadership. Through the practices of solitude, secrecy, and confession, she explores the narrowing gap between who we are in public and who we are when…

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  15. The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 2 (Featuring Drew Hyun and John Mark Comer)

    Where does deep transformation in the church begin? In this episode, Drew Hyun is joined by John Mark Comer to wade into the everyday pastor’s wrestle with the slow, often hidden work of formation in leadership. Together, they reflect on issues of patience and ego, community, vulnerability,...

  16. The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 1 (Featuring Drew Hyun)

    What if the burdens we often feel in pastoral work come from doing ministry for God, without God? In this episode, Drew Hyun invites pastors to honestly consider a painful tension that many leaders experience: the possibility of ministering for God while slowly losing their connection with Him....

  17. A New, Yet Ancient Pastoral Imagination (Featuring John Mark Comer)

    If spiritual formation were the primary goal of your church, what might need to change? In this episode, John Mark Comer invites us to consider whether the way we have organized church life is actually forming people into maturity in Christ, and the kinds of convictions that support a more...

  18. Caring For Your Soul: Part 2 (Featuring Ken Shigematsu and John Mark Comer)

    How can you reorder your life for the sake of others? In this episode, Ken Shigematsu is joined by John Mark Comer to discuss how to turn the vision of the way of Jesus into a lived way of life. Together, they reflect on the challenges of reshaping our lives, the quiet resistance we often...

  19. Caring For Your Soul: Part 1 (Featuring Ken Shigematsu)

    What fruit is being produced by your devotion to God? In this episode, Ken Shigematsu invites us to reflect on who we are becoming in the rhythm of our lives and leadership. He shares the simplicity of his own Rule of Life and how it has nurtured a friendship with Jesus that is not only formative...

  20. Rediscovering the Catechumenate: Part 2 (Q&A with Dr. Gerald Sittser and John Mark Comer)

    What could happen if we considered formation, not just information, in the discipleship process of our people? In this episode, Dr. Gerald Sittser is joined by John Mark Comer to engage with questions from pastors and leaders about the depth and challenge of recovering a more robust, formational...

  21. Rediscovering the Catechumenate: Part 1 (Featuring Dr. Gerald Sittser)

    How can our communities learn to follow Jesus in a way that is within, but not defined by, our surrounding culture? In this episode, Dr. Gerald Sittser draws from the history of the early church to explore how the Jesus movement grew — slowly, relationally, and often in the margins. He reflects…

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  22. Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)

    How can the digital age challenge and reshape our understanding of church? In this episode, Jay Kim addresses the unique pressures influencing life and ministry in our digital landscape, followed by a Q&A period alongside John Mark Comer. This discussion invites us to envision a thoughtful...

  23. Relational Spirituality: Part 2 (Q&A with Dr. Todd Hall and John Mark Comer)

    Where can you go as a pastor to find the safe relationships you need to flourish? In this episode, Dr. Todd Hall is joined by John Mark Comer to engage with questions from pastors about the tensions of leading relationally. They explore questions such as: How can we practice vulnerability while...

  24. Relational Spirituality: Part 1 (Featuring Dr. Todd Hall)

    In what ways might your community be more spiritually impacted by their relational history than they realize? In this episode, join Dr. Todd Hall, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin for part one of a conversation about how our relational history impacts our spiritual lives and the potential for…

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  25. A Rule of Life (Featuring Gemma Ryan)

    How is the ancient practice of a Rule of Life desperately needed in the modern church? In this episode, join Gemma Ryan, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin as they explore how quiet, everyday rhythms can root you in Christ and anchor you through the demands of ministry. This teaching and panel...

  26. The Narrow Path of Formation (Featuring Rich Villodas)

    What could change for you if you returned to the first principles of the Gospel? In this episode, join Rich Villodas, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin as they discuss leading from the inside out, and the kind of ministry that can be sustained not by activity or gifting, but only by an identity...

  27. Church Around the Table

    What if the table was the primary gathering place for the family of God? In this episode, join John Mark Comer, Daena Dooley, and Chris and Merryl Weinand for a highly practical conversation about what it looks like to move the table from the periphery to the centre of our lives and churches.…

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  28. A Conversation Between Father Ronald Rolheiser and John Mark Comer

    What are the stages of discipleship that we must consider to help cultivate a lifetime of discipleship to Jesus? In this episode, join John Mark Comer and Father Rolheiser as they explore lessons he’s learned after spending a half-century in the priesthood, what cultivating a mature life looks…

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  29. A Theology of Pastoral Ministry (Featuring John Mark Comer)

    What might change if you saw pastoral ministry at its core not as leadership, but as suffering love? In this episode, join John Mark Comer, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin as they honestly consider the risks and wounds of pastoring while holding up the goal of a faithful and fruitful lifetime…

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  30. Spiritual Formation in the Life of the Leader (Featuring John Ortberg)

    Is your life as a pastor arranged in such a way that you are experiencing deep joy, contentment, and freedom in your life with God? In this episode, join John Ortberg, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin as they explore the vision for building an inner life that can allow you and your ministry to...

  31. Spiritual Formation in the Future of the Church (Featuring John Mark Comer)

    What thoughtful shifts can we make in our churches to cultivate a deeper understanding and greater potential for discipleship? In this first episode of The Contemplative Pastor, join John Mark Comer, Bethany Allen, and Bryan Rouanzoin as they explore how spiritual formation has reached its…

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  32. Welcome to The Contemplative Pastor

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

For the pastor who longs to embody a less hurried, less overwhelmed, less CEO-like form of leadership, and to recover the ancient path of pastoring in the way of Jesus.The Contemplative Pastor invites you into illuminating conversations with guides and sages on spiritual and pastoral formation, and offers guided prayers and reflections to help you sit with the rich wisdom of each episode.Our aim? To shape a new, yet ancient, kind of pastor—more unhurried, more prayerful, more peaceful—and to see the formational role of the local church flourish once again.Welcome to The Contemplative Pastor.---To find more resources and experiences tailored just for you—the pastor—visit practicingtheway.org/pastor ( http://practicingtheway.org/pastor ).This podcast and its episodes are free, thanks to the generosity of The Circle and other givers. You can learn more about The Circle or contribute toward future resources like this podcast at practicingtheway.org/give ( http://practicingtheway.org/

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