The Dare to Multiply Podcast
Weekly discipleship and disciple-making with Cynthia Anderson and Jenn Chang, for pastors and global practitioners.If you are longing to grow in your understanding of how to make and multiply disciples in your own community, this show will provide encouragement, inspiration, super practical insights, and examples of how to move forward toward becoming a disciple who shares God’s Kingdom love in ways you hardly dreamed possible.
Episodes
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A Shrine, a Waiter, and a Hairstylist: Who’s Really Open to God?
A huge idol statue. A shrine. Everything about the room said he wasn’t interested. Then he asked me to sit down and tell him a Bible story. In this solo episode of Dare to Multiply, I talk about the quiet assumptions that keep us from starting spiritual conversations, and why they’re wrong more...
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Why Latino Believers Can Go Where Westerners Can't
Manny Martinez had just finished teaching 40 Egyptian pastors and church planters when his translator came up with a question from the room. "Your English is so good," they wanted to know, "but you don't look American." Manny explained that his grandparents came from Mexico. The light went on.…
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The Level Three Magnet: Why Growing Churches Stop Short of Multiplying with Dave Ferguson
"How do I grow my church?" Dave Ferguson calls it a good question. It's just not a great one. Dave was lead pastor of COMMUNITY Christian Church in Chicago for thirty years and now leads Exponential, the organization behind the 16% Mission. In this episode of Dare to Multiply, he explains the…
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Living the Kind of Life You Want to Multiply with Josh Benadum
What kind of disciples are we actually multiplying? Cynthia talks with Josh Benadum, author of A Life That Leads, about the character qualities that hold up under pressure — self-will, gentleness, teachability — and why ambition for multiplication can quietly become its own form of self-will. A...
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A Leadership Mindset That Will Either Unlock or Kill Multiplication
Fear is the exact opposite of faith — and Cynthia says it's never passive. In this episode, she tells her own story from a restricted-access country in Central Asia, shares what friends are facing right now in Asia under growing anti-conversion laws, and names the quieter Western version of the...
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Finland's Lesson: People Weren't Activated — They Were Passivated
In this episode, Pyry Winter gives us a raw, hopeful look at how disciple‑making becomes movement — not through programs, but through ordinary people who refuse to stay passive. He shares why Finland’s lonely, secular culture is actually ripe for harvest, how experience beats information, and why...
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Living Out Of A John 15 Abiding
In this episode, Jenn and Steven share about how to live and serve out of an abiding life in Christ. They share their own story of ministry difficult and burnout into discovering the secret of union with Christ. They walk through John 15 and also the life and example of Hudson Taylor, a…
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How Control Kills Disciple-Making — and Trust Sets It Free
"It's irresponsible — maybe even unbiblical — to let a brand-new believer lead." Cynthia tackles that objection head-on, unpacking what 1 Timothy 3:6 actually says, two different ways leaders default to control, and why Jesus released new believers same-day rather than someday. Recorded just…
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Why Disciple-Making Dwindles Without a Team or Church Culture to Support It
Disciple-making rarely fizzles because people stop caring — it fizzles because nothing around them supports what they're trying to do. In this episode Cynthia Anderson and Jenn Chang explore why team and church culture are essential to sustaining multiplication, what leaders get wrong, and one...
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Can a Jesus Movement Begin in a City? With David Broodryk
David Broodryk's mind left the building one Sunday morning, mid-sermon. He tells it like it's the most ordinary thing in the world — like of course that's how God finally got his attention. His mind rose up over the ten million people packed into the sprawl between Johannesburg and Pretoria, and…
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Going Green: Justin Long on the New 200-Million Movement Data
Two hundred million. That’s the number of believers now worshiping and being discipled inside movements around the world — double what researcher Justin Long reported the last time he joined me on this podcast. Justin serves as Director of Research for Beyond and plays a key role in the 24:14...
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How AI Could Help or Hurt Disciple-Making
Nearly half of practicing Christians already trust AI with their spiritual growth. This isn't the "should we use it" debate — that's settled. It's an honest look at where AI helps the real work of multiplication, and where it quietly substitutes for the thing disciple-making can't do without: a...
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Inviting Others into Disciple‑Making Without Guilt or Comparison
Cynthia names the guilt and pressure that can creep into disciple-making — and the tension every multiplier has to hold between fruitfulness and unconditional love.
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How to Disciple People Who Will Actually Disciple Others
A young woman Cynthia discipled in Nepal went on to lead a friend to Christ — who became a church planter among a people group that had never had a gospel witness before. In this episode, Cynthia breaks down the four specific things she did that let that chain keep multiplying, traces the same...
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Hidden Keys for a Powerful Discovery Bible Study
In this episode, Jenn shares practical lessons learned from years of facilitating DBS groups among both believers and nonbelievers in Thailand. You'll hear how DBS empowers ordinary believers to make disciples, answers to common concerns, and why trusting the Holy Spirit is often harder—and more...
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Everywhere: The Surprising Places God Is Multiplying Disciples with Steve Addison
Steve Addison has spent decades tracking what actually makes disciples and churches multiply — and his conclusion is simple: movements rise and fall on how closely they follow the life and ministry of Jesus. In this conversation, Cynthia Anderson talks with Steve about his book Everywhere, the...
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The System You Built For Addition Won't Get You Multiplication
You can be busy. You can even be growing. And still not be multiplying. In this episode, Cynthia talks honestly about what it actually costs to move from addition to multiplication — not the theory, but the moment you have to let go of a system you built, invested in, and were proud of, because…
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The Most Overlooked Step in Building a Multiplying Culture
We spend enormous energy diagnosing why discipleship isn't multiplying — new methods, better training, stronger leadership pipelines. But there's one step that almost every Western ministry has quietly set aside, and every significant Disciple Making Movement in history points back to it. In this...
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How to Mobilize the Church to Multiply - an interview with Andy Kampman
In this episode, we sit down with Andy Kampman to talk about mobilizing churches toward multiplication and cultivating a culture of disciple multiplication within churches — both in the West and among the unreached. In this conversation, we discuss: How to partner with churches toward...
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What Movements, Pruning and A New Grandson are Teaching Me
What does 30+ years of cross-cultural ministry actually look like from the inside? In this solo episode, recorded on her 59th birthday, Cynthia Anderson gets honest — about the surprises, the valleys she never would have chosen, and the convictions that have only deepened over three decades of...
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Are We Getting Deaf Ministry Wrong? #deafministry
In this Dare to Multiply Podcast episode, Cynthia interviews Deaf disciple-makers—offering a rare opportunity to “hear” directly from Deaf believers about how to effectively minister within their own community. You’ll discover why translation alone isn’t enough, why the gospel is best understood…
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Why Reproducibility Matters More Than Performance
What if the most impressive thing you've ever built in ministry is actually the thing slowing multiplication down? In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson unpacks one of the most important — and most overlooked — mindset shifts for church leaders and disciple-makers: why...
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Why Most Churches Say Discipleship Matters—But Rarely See It Multiply
Most churches say discipleship matters. So why do we so rarely see it multiply? In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson explores a tension many pastors, practitioners, and Christian leaders feel—but don’t always name: discipleship is often emphasized, taught, and programmed… yet...
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Amazing Multiplication in America's Prisons and the Hope It Gives
In today’s episode, Cynthia sits down with three seasoned multipliers who have witnessed extraordinary transformation inside America’s prisons. What began with simple obedience has led to inmates coming to faith in Christ, being baptized, forming churches behind bars—and continuing to multiply...
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Walking With Survivors Toward Healing & Discipleship
What does trauma‑aware disciple making actually look like—and how can it still multiply? In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson interviews a practitioner who walks closely with trauma survivors and has seen discipleship grow and multiply among them. Together they explore why…
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The Difference Between Teaching People About Jesus and Training Them to Follow Him
In this episode, we explore a critical but often overlooked difference at the heart of disciple‑making. Jesus didn’t command us to simply transfer information. In the Great Commission, He tells us to teach people to obey everything He commanded—not just to know it. Using Matthew 28:20, a key…
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Before There Were Buildings: What Actually Made the Early Church Grow
What made the early church grow before there were buildings and programs? This episode explores Acts‑based insights on relational growth, obedience‑driven discipleship, and dependence on the Holy Spirit—and what that means for church leaders and movement practitioners today.
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Multiplying Disciples With Kids -With Adele Heyns
In this episode, Jenn talks to Adele, a mom who has multiplied disciples in multiple cities and contexts over 30 years while raising 4 kids!
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Should Movements Be Audited or Assessments Done? Let's Ask David Garrison!
In his newly released book David Garrison pulls back the curtain on 28 movement assessments done by the International Mission Board (IMB). Today on the podcast, Cynthia talks with David about these assessments, what we can learn from them and how assessments can help movement practitioners and...
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Perseverance in Crisis and the Daily Grind
In this podcast Cindy and Jenn examine the vital role of steadfastness for disciple-makers pursuing movements. They blend personal testimony and practical counsel, introducing perseverance as essential, countering the misconception that movements are always fast by emphasizing patient, daily...
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One Latino's DMM Story: When You Are the Only Foreigner in a Remote Village
What happens when you are the only foreigners in a remote village, ten hours from the nearest store? On this episode we hear from Sergio, a Chilean missionary who crossed cultures to share with Muslims in Africa. Amazing miracles took place as they told stories of the prophets and discipled in...
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Families Discipling Together - with Jesse and Shanee Snodgrass
In this episode, we interview Shanee and Jesse Snodgrass, a couple who spent over 20 years as movement catalysts, multiplying disciples in India, Nepal, and Europe. On top of raising 3 kids! We will learn from their story and experiences about how to multiply disciples as a family and go over…
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Couples Discipling and Leading Together- Practical Tools & Stories
In this episode, Jenn and Cynthia are joined by their husbands as the series continues. Despite their different personalities and relationship styles, each couple shares insights that reveal key principles for growing and working through this together—offering hope, encouragement, and practical...
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Couples Leading and Discipling Together: Identifying & Overcoming the Challenges with Cynthia & Todd
In episode two of our series on couples leading and discipling together, Todd and Cynthia open up about the real challenges they’ve encountered. Through honest reflection, they share principles and solutions that helped them move forward in a healthy way. No matter your situation, you’ll find…
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Couples Leading and Discipling Together - Why It's Important with Jenn & Steven Chang
In this episode, Steven and Jenn kick off a new series on couples leading and discipling together! Through lessons learned from their own marriage, they share principles of why couples working together is both important and effective in multiplying disciples. This episode casts a vision of how...
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How to Develop Confident and Competent Disciple-makers with Cynthia
If you’re tired of training believers who still aren’t making disciples, this episode is your breakthrough! Discover the four crucial elements missing from most church training—and how Jesus’ apprenticeship-style approach in Luke 9–10 can transform passive learners into confident, competent...
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Why Disciple‑Making Movement Terminology Keeps Changing—and What That Tells Us with Cory Hartman
In this insightful conversation, Cynthia and Cory Hartman of New Generations explore how Disciple‑Making Movement terminology has developed, evolved, and continues to shift as God is at work around the world. Listeners will gain a clearer understanding of commonly used movement terms, their...
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Making Disciples Through the Spirit's Power - With Florian Baertsch
What does it mean to make disciples like Jesus and Paul—empowered by the Holy Spirit? In this inspiring conversation, Florian shares incredible stories of healing, deliverance, words of knowledge, and even raising the dead. You’ll learn how God uses ordinary believers—even those new or feeling…
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How to Pursue Great Works Without Losing Your Soul with David Cervenka
Why does it sometimes feel like pursuing God’s call to multiply disciples comes at the expense of our intimacy and abiding with Jesus? In this interview, David Cervenka, a movement practitioner and former team leader in Japan and strategy coordinator for Greater Austin Mission Society, shares the...
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Disciple-Making Where You Work with Ramon Mayo
What does it look like to make disciples in the workplace? In this conversation with Ramon Mayo, we explore how God can turn setbacks—like losing a job—into opportunities for greater fruitfulness. Ramon shares powerful stories and practical insights on recognizing everyday opportunities…
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Letting The Megachurch Dream Die - with Lucas Pulley
What if church wasn’t a place—but everyday obedience to Jesus lived out by ordinary people? In this episode, we interview Lucas Pulley, the executive director of the Underground Network. we explore the Underground movement, a global network of 100+ microchurches—worshiping communities sent to…
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Setting Goals and Dreaming Big in Disciple-making with Bill Smith
On this end of year podcast episode, Cynthia talks with veteran DMM/CPM trainer Bill Smith about the role and importance of goal setting and dreaming big with God as you start a new year. They'll talk about some of the how to do this but a lot more about the why it is so vital in our journey as...
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Sharing Christ in Winsome Ways at Christmas Time With Cynthia
Christmas is a wonderful time to share the good news! There are many opportunities in this season that you don't have in other times. Are you taking advantage of those? In this episode Cynthia shares her experiences and what it's been like to do the Christmas Challenge, sharing the gospel or...
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Movements in Acts with Professor Craig Ott. Stretch or Strategy?
Description: In this episode, we sit down with a Dr. Craig Ott, a professor at Trinity International University, to explore whether the Book of Acts reveals patterns of movements—or if that’s reading too much into the text. Together, we unpack powerful themes of growth, opposition, and...
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How to Cast Out Demons & Other Questions about Spiritual Power: Holy Spirit Part 3
In the third and final episode in this series on the Holy Spirit, Cynthia and Jenn talk through common questions about how to cast out demons, discern when you are facing spiritual warfare, and other questions people often ask about the Holy Spirit.
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Listening Prayer, Hearing God's Voice and Treasure Hunting: Holy Spirit Part 2
In this episode, we dive into how to hear and receive from the Holy Spirit, and practical ways to apply that into multiplication ministry. We share personal examples as well as a number of stories from field workers of how they listened and discerned the Holy Spirit's leading. We also talk about...
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How to Access the Holy Spirit's Gifts as You Make Disciples: Holy Spirit Series - Part 1
In this episode, Cynthia and Jenn dive into how to access the Holy Spirit’s gifts as you make disciples. They unpack 1 Corinthians 12, exploring the incredible variety of spiritual gifts—from wisdom and healing to prophecy and tongues—and how they’re distributed by God for the good of the body....
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The Parable That Could Change Everything: Unpacking Jesus’ Most Strategic Story with Kevin Greeson
In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Kevin Greeson, author of Sowing With Intent, to explore the Parable of the Sower—arguably Jesus’ most foundational teaching on spiritual multiplication. Drawing from decades of church planting experience across South Asia, Kevin shares transformative…
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Building Oikos Relationships in an Increasingly Isolated Culture with Tim Walker
In this thought-provoking episode, Cynthia Anderson and Tim Walker dive deep into the Parable of the Sower, uncovering its strategic relevance for today’s Church. Tim, author of Sowing With Intent, challenges listeners to rethink how we measure success in ministry—moving beyond organizational...
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How to Develop the Right DNA for the Multiplication of Disciples with Steve & Robin
In this powerful episode, Jenn and Cynthia sit down with a couple who have helped spark one of the largest movements to Christ in the world today—over one million groups and churches in just 13 years. From early struggles and fruitless efforts to explosive, organic growth in difficult gospel…
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Weekly discipleship and disciple-making with Cynthia Anderson and Jenn Chang, for pastors and global practitioners.If you are longing to grow in your understanding of how to make and multiply disciples in your own community, this show will provide encouragement, inspiration, super practical insights, and examples of how to move forward toward becoming a disciple who shares God’s Kingdom love in ways you hardly dreamed possible.
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