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The Deconstruction Zone

In the Deconstruction Zone, Danny Lybarger, and Sadie Murbarger explore and navigate the gray areas that come with following Jesus, while also unlearning and rethinking what they were taught about him. Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey.

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  1. 112

    Ep. 220: The SBC went Full Send on Patriarchy

    This week, Maggie and Danny unpack the SBC's recent decision to officially unyoke congregations that affirm the calling of women into the role of pastor within the local church.

  2. 111

    Ep.219: When Devotion becomes Obsession

    This week, Danny and Maggie explore the nuance between deep devotion and blind obsession with God, institutions, politics, and more. Give it a listen!

  3. 110

    Ep. 218: Exploring World Religions Part 5

    This week, Danny is joined by a longtime friend of both The Well and The Deconstruction Zone, Rabbi Joshua Stanton. Together, they explore the sibling relationship (and even rivalry) between Christianity and Judaism.

  4. 109

    Ep. 217: Exploring World Religions Part 4

    This week Danny is joined by author, writier, speaker and theologian, Dr. Randy Woodley. This is a deep and thoughtful conversation that revolves around the topics of indigenous spirituality, evangelicalism, and the lasting impact of empire and colonialism on the Christianity we all know today.

  5. 108

    Ep. 215: Exploring World Religions Part 2

    This week, Danny is away, so Maggie joins her new friend Moe for a discssion on his experince as a Muslim that reguarlly attends The Well. Check it out!

  6. 107

    Ep.214: Exploring World Religions Part 1

    This week, Danny is joined by Dr. Taylor Thomas as they explore Christianity, theism, atheism, agnosticism, and more!

  7. 106

    Ep.213: What the hell is up with sin?

    Maggie and Danny argue and unpack sin and what we're supposed to do with it.

  8. 105

    Ep. 212: What's the difference between shame, guilt and conviction?

    This week, Maggie and Danny explore the nature of conviction, shame, and guilt, and what the overlapping similarities and differences might be.

  9. 104

    Ep. 211: Why is the church declining?

    This week, Danny and Maggie chop it up and discuss the decline of the institutional church.

  10. 103

    Ep. 210: Danny wants to know about disability and the gospel

    This week, Danny taps into Maggie's expertise as an SLP, as they discuss ability, disability and the gospel story.

  11. 102

    Ep. 209: Maggie wants a personal

    This week Maggie and Danny chat about the necessity of a personal relationship with Jesus, and where that idea has been used for good and evil over the centuries.

  12. 101

    Ep. 208: Why Maggie Goes to Church

    This week, we explore Maggie's story more. Why she still engages with the church, why she sought out going to the well, and so much more!

  13. 100

    Ep. 207: Maggie wants to know why Jesus has to die?

    Happy Easter! This week, in honor of Easter Sunday, we'll be exploring the question that got many of us to the DZ... why did Jesus have to die?

  14. 99

    Ep. 206: Danny Wants to Know, Who owns The Deconstruction Zone?

    This week, Danny and Maggie explore the origins and birthdays of The Deconstruction Zone Podcast, and the much larger questions of "who owns deconstruction?"

  15. 98

    Ep. 205: Maggie wants to know what makes us human?

    Do aliens exist? Do dogs go to heaven? What exactly makes a human a human? And what the hell is a soul? More will be unpacked this week on The DZ!

  16. 97

    Ep. 204: Maggie Wants to Know About Injustice

    This week, Danny & Maggie chat about injustice. Trigger warning, as difficult topics will be discussed. But if you're able to tune in, a great conversation awaits!

  17. 96

    Ep. 203: Maggie Wants to Know About Spiritual Warfare

    This week Maggie picks Danny's brain about angels, demons & spiritual warfare. It's a spooky one, so buckle up!

  18. 95

    Ep. 202: Danny Wants To Know: What's it Like to Be a Woman?

    This week, Danny asks Maggie to Womanplain what it's like to actually be a woman in the church. Men (especially ones of the white and straight variety) often walk through religious spaces unfazed. Unearned cred, trust, and opportunities are thrust upon them. But what about women in the church? Maggie explains to Danny how it's not quite the same experience.

  19. 94

    Ep. 201: Maggie Wants to Know: What is Reconstruction?

    As the Deconstruction Zone Podcast kicks back off, its newest co-host, Maggie, opens up a chat with Danny about what exactly reconstruction is. Is it good? Bad? Neutral? Is it even biblical? This and so much more will be explored on the Deconstruction Zone Podcast this week.

  20. 93

    The Deconstruction Zone Has Returned!

    After a season away, the Deconstruction Zone Returns!This round, Danny will be joined by Maggie, a former Calvinist, trying to make her way through the shifting spiritual landscape we all find ourselves in today. Set a reminder to catch each new episode, which will drop every Wednesday at 9am, and don't miss the first episode of this new season with Maggie and Danny, which will drop on Wednesday, February 25th. We can't wait to see you back in the zone!

  21. 92

    Ep.102: A interview with the oldest Podcast EVER! (maybe)

    This week, Danny hops back on the pod to join Katie and Haddon from the Day1 Podcast. Day1.org is the longest-running and oldest Protestant sermon podcast and radio hour in circulation. Their conversation is one about deconstruction and how to tell stories that matter. If our conversation with Day1.Org was interesting, here is how you can follow and connect with them in all the spaces they exist!🌐 Website: https://day1.org📱 Social Media-Facebook: facebook.com/day1online-Instagram: instagram.com/day1online-YouTube: youtube.com/user/day1dotorg🎧 Podcast Platforms-Day1's Weekly Program can be found on Apple, Amazon, Google, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts.📬 Email NewsletterSubscribe at https://day1.org for weekly sermons and updates.

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    Ep.100: A Conversation on The Next Generation

    Let's talk NEW GENERATIONS here on episode 100!

  24. 89

    Ep.99: Back to our roots

    This week the DZ team explores their earliest and most recent bouts with deconstructing their own faiths.

  25. 88

    Ep.98: Politics Suck

    Ugh... not another group of marginally informed folks chatting about politics! But really, this week, Danny, Sadie, Kyle, and JT take an honest and vulnerable stab at discussing the sensitive intersection of faith and politics. Listen with care!

  26. 87

    Ep.97: Dam those Beavers

    This week, Danny, JT, and Kyle help Sadie prepare for her upcoming sermon at The Well, as they unpack the topic of ecological justice and stewardship.

  27. 86

    Ep.96: Liberal Babbel

    Dark comedy, liberal Babbel, and pancake handholds. A lot will be covered for sure!

  28. 85

    Ep.95: A Good Ol' Summer Beach Off

    This week, the new DZ begins! Join Danny, Sadie, Kyle & JT for their first of many, unhinged roundtable discussions!

  29. 84

    Ep.94: Our Villain Origin Story

    We all have origin stories - and depending on who you talk to - it might make you a hero or a villain! This week Danny takes a break, and Sadie is joined by J.T. for this super interesting episode of the DZ!

  30. 83

    Ep.93: Honey I Deconstructed The Kids!

    This week Sadie and Danny dive into the wide topic of parenting and deconstruction. It's worth a listen whether you're a parent, kid, grandparent, or fun uncle.

  31. 82

    Ep.92: What if church becomes too painful?

    This week, Danny and Sadie explore what happens when the pain of church feels too heavy.

  32. 81

    Ep.91: Are Megachurches Evil?

    Join Danny and Sadie, and they have a spirited discussion on the value, issues, and nature of small, medium, and mega-churches across the country.

  33. 80

    Ep.90: Pastors Are People Too!

    This week, Danny and Sadie unpack the burden of pastoral leadership and boundaries and answer the question, "Should Christians [and Christian leaders] have boundaries at all?"

  34. 79

    Ep.89: The Blind Leading The Blind

    This week, Danny and Sadie explore the nuanced perspective around the prism of deconstruction. Both Danny and Sadie have deconstructed before becoming pastors (and have since as well!), but now they are looking at this conversation from a different vantage point. This week, they'll explore the importance of perspective and nuance in understanding deconstruction's greater meaning, impact, and experience.

  35. 78

    Ep.88: A New Journey Begins

    The Deconstruction Zone is officially back in action, joined by one familiar face, and one new(ish) one! For this next season of The DZ Danny will be joined by Sadie Murbarger as his new co-host! Make sure you check it out!

  36. 77

    Ep. 87: DZ + PPP Crossover

    This week, Danny and the fellas from The Progressive Pastor Podcast chat about life, faith, Christian lingo, and deconstruction. Check it out!

  37. 76

    Ep.86: A Conversation with Colby Martin on Inclusion

    Check out our conversation with author, pastor, and speaker Colby Martin! Colby wrote Unclobber and The Shift, two books designed to help individuals better understand the bible, faith, and how to move from closed, to inclusive theology. Listen now and enjoy!

  38. 75

    Ep.85: The Progressive Pastor Podcast Crossover

    This week Danny is joined by Kyle and J.T. from the new Progressive Pastor Podcast. Today they'll chat about the head, the heart, and their blindspots in deconstruction. Give it a listen now!

  39. 74

    Ep.84: Should I Grow Where I'm Planted?

    This week Danny explores a listener's question about whether to say where she's in ministry, or go somewhere else? Many of us wrestle with the same things in faith. Whether has a vocation, or follower of Jesus. Regardless of how we get there - it's a good question to explore! Let's all dive in together on this week's episode of the DZ!

  40. 73

    Ep.83: Deconstructing Pentecostalism

    This week Emily is joined by a friend of the pod, Austin Lucas. Together they unpack his unique upbringing and deconstruction process and its connection to the Pentecostal church.

  41. 72

    Ep.82: What's heavier: Good or Evil?

    This week Danny and Emily have a quick episode where they dip a toe into the concept of good, evil, and morality. Next week we have a deeper dive into morality - and we want to hear from you! Email Danny at [email protected] with your thoughts and questions about morality (or any future topic ideas!).

  42. 71

    Ep.81: Cry Night at YoungLife Camp

    This week on the DZ Emily and Danny explore the complexity of emotion, cults, Christian camp, and religion as a whole.

  43. 70

    Ep.80: 2023 DZ Wrapped

    Lets take a look back at the year behind us and examine all the good, bad and ugly that came with it!

  44. 69

    Ep.79: Are there any unforgivable sins?

    This week Emily and Danny explore how far inclusion extends and ask the question, can you lose your seat at the table?

  45. 68

    Ep.78: Is Jesus a Narcissist?

    Sorry about the sound quality - we have a few issues, but this is a one-week issue. Also, the longer you listen, the better it sounds! Now to the topic: This week Emily raises the question, is Jesus a narcissist? If he's only a man, maybe? If he's also 100% God, Danny doesn't think it's possible. What do you think? Listen and drop your thoughts in the comments now!

  46. 67

    Ep.77: Do Our Beliefs Impact Others

    As an inclusive pastor, Danny is often told that "the blood of those he leads astray is on his hands." Whether you're a pastor, or not-religious at all - or somewhere in between - we likely all ponder the impact of our beliefs on others. This week Dustin and Danny unpack this and more!

  47. 66

    Ep.76: Deconstructing Church Burnout

    Have you been burnt out on Jesus & the Church? This week Dustin and Danny explore some of their experiences with that, and other thoughts on organized religion.

  48. 65

    Ep.75: Deconstructing Spiritual Warfare

    Do you believe in spiritual warfare? Is it real? How do we handle it in our world today?

  49. 64

    Ep.74: Emily Zell From The Well is Going to Hell

    This week Emily and Danny take an episode to unpack some questions from Instagram! After listening, make sure you take a moment and answer the poll on Spotify and leave us what questions you have and topics you'd like covered in the episodes to come!

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    Ep. 73: What is Indoctrination?

    Let’s chat about indoctrination! What is is? Is it inherently bad? Is everyone kind of doing it? This and more will be unpacked on this weeks episode of The Deconstruction Zone! 

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

In the Deconstruction Zone, Danny Lybarger, and Sadie Murbarger explore and navigate the gray areas that come with following Jesus, while also unlearning and rethinking what they were taught about him. Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey.

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