The Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast

In this episode, Dwayne and Jennifer sit down with Jake Hamilton for a raw, honest, and deeply needed conversation about the crisis in the church—and what real change can look like.Together, we confront the fallout of leadership failure, the idolization of platforms, and the silence around broken marriages behind the scenes. Jake shares his personal story of near-collapse: burning out in ministry, nearly losing his marriage, and how repentance, emotional healing, and brotherhood brought restoration.We talk about masculinity, responsibility, spiritual formation, and the need for leaders to live known—not just celebrated. We also confront the pain and complexity surrounding recent church scandals, including the Mike Bickle situation, and the responsibility we all carry to build something better.This isn’t just critique—it’s a conversation filled with clarity, hope, and practical wisdom for anyone longing to see the church transformed from the inside out.

Tyler Bertola was a pastor’s daughter whose world collapsed after her father’s moral failures and addiction came to light. What followed wasn’t grace—it was rejection. Her family was removed from ministry, shunned by the church, and left to navigate spiritual trauma alone.In this powerful conversation, Tyler shares her journey through church hurt, addiction, identity loss, and eventually—radical redemption. From hitting rock bottom in New York City to encountering God’s mercy through unexpected community and motherhood, her story is raw, honest, and full of hope.If you’ve been wounded by the church or are wrestling with your faith, Tyler’s testimony will remind you that Jesus doesn’t give up on us—even when people do.

In this episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they share big news; they have closed their church. They talk about the last few year and how it has shaped their view of the Church, why they’ve decided to close their house churches, and what’s next. 

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer podcast, Joel Richardson joins Dwayne and Jennifer to discuss the IHOP scandal, his role in exposing leadership misconduct, and the broader implications for the charismatic Christian stream. Joel shares his personal journey through the revelations, including the emotional toll on his family, his initial hesitations, and his commitment to bringing truth to light. 

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they sit down with Ron Cantor, a Jewish believer living in Israel, to discuss the concerning issues of leadership, abuse, and accountability within the church. Ron shares his personal journey, insights into the recent controversies, and the importance of exposing systemic problems while maintaining humility. They dive deep into the challenges of church leadership, the impact of power dynamics, and the need for genuine character development. This talk about the popular question, does exposing abusers harm the church?

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast they interview Tammy Woods, Mike Bickle’s youngest victim (14) of sexual abuse. Tammy shares about her recovery since her story went public in February of 2024. She gives her honest opinion of the church and how they have responded to victims and where reform is desperately needed.This episode was recorded prior to the release of the updated report from Firefly that now includes a timeline. You can read it here: https://www.tikkunglobal.org/a-formal-investigation

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they talk about the recent release of the investigative report into Mike Bickle and IHOPKC. They share their views about the report and talk about both Mike’s victims and the victim’s of others within IHOPKC. Dwayne then shares about a letter that he sent to Mike Bickle.Read the report hereRead Dwayne's Letter to Mike hereCorrection: the Missouri code in the report was misquoted in this episode as "deviant sexual assault", when the correct code is "sexual assault and deviate sexual intercourse".

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, Dwayne and Jennifer have a family discussion with their daughters Chloe Roberts and Sydney Nwadiuko (hosts of the podcast Green Room). They all share their experience wading through the IHOPKC and Mike Bickle scandal. They also talk about the importance of a healthy community and emotional wholeness to endure hardship.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they have a candid conversation with former IHOP-KC senior leader and board member Elizabeth Herder. They talk about the dysfunction and misconduct that has been exposed within the IHOP leadership. Elizabeth shares her personal journey of disillusionment and the difficult process of separating from IHOP, while also hoping for a new generation of Godly leaders to emerge from this painful season.

In this episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast they interview Jim Wilder. Jim Wilder is a therapist of over 40 years and a theologian. They discuss the state of the church, how narcissism has creeped into leadership and where it has come from. Jim shares his decades of wisdom, research, and experience on how we can move forward.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they interview their dear friend, and formed associate director of IHOPKC, Allen Hood. Allen shares about his regrets about his time at IHOPKC and the desire for widespread change in the charismatic world.

In this episode, Dwayne and Jennifer interview their friend Jono Hall. He shares about his experience at IHOPKC as the media director and later COO. He talks about the shock of last October and the subsequent fallout.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast they interview Shane Holden, a long time pastor and recently a former board member at IHOPKC. They talk about his experience on the board at IHOPKC during the crisis and the many attempts he made for reconciliation and healing. You will also hear a helpful, pastoral heart in the conversation. Shane's church's website is firstfree.org

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast they ask an important question: is Mike Bickle a ravenous wolf (Matthew 7)? They look at the scriptures and discuss the meaning of a ravenous wolf and look at Mike’s history and their own journey with him.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast they interview Michael Sullivant. Michael, a longtime follower of Jesus, pastor, and Bible teacher, talks about his 13 years of working with Mike Bickle. He also shares about the dysfunction of the culture that Mike created and the abuse of the prophetic.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, Jennifer shares her story and experience during her 15 years at the International House of Prayer Kansas City. She shares her common feelings of inferiority and being devalued. She explains how the IHOPKC culture was very demeaning and exploitative.

In this episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, Dwayne takes time to break down his leadership at the International House of Prayer (IHOPKC) and repent for some of his mistakes. They both discuss many of the traits that contributed to the toxic culture at IHOPKC that caused tremendous harm. Chloe’s Substack https://thechloeroberts.substack.com Green Room with Sydney and Chloe Podcast: http://www.youtube.com/@GreenRoomwithSydneyandChloe

In the second episode of season 6 of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they continue to break their long silence and talk about the Mike Bickle and IHOPKC scandal that has developed over the last year. They discuss some of why they have taken the posture they've taken and their experience walking through this tremendous trial.

In the debut of season 6 of the Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast, they break their long silence and talk about the Mike Bickle and IHOPKC scandal that has developed over the last year. They discuss some of why they have taken the posture they've taken and their experience walking through this tremendous trial.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about fasting, and the upcoming global fast. They dive into Matthew 6 and talk about the why behind fasting. They also share a big update.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they discuss the importance of understanding the roots of the Christian faith in Israel. They explore the history of Israel in the Bible, including the covenant with Abraham, the lineage of David, and the ministry of Jesus and His return. 

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they celebrate 100 episode of the podcast! They continue their discussion about joy and talk through Psalm 16 and the importance of getting your joy through delighting in the Lord and others. 

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they discuss emotional healing, the ongoing journey of healing, and the importance of understanding one's identity. They also talk about joy and how it is found in a right relationship with God, rather than in circumstances.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they discuss affliction and the importance of keeping faith and hope in front of us. They emphasize the temporary nature of our physical bodies and the need to focus on the eternal perspective. They also discuss the idea that affliction produces a weight of glory and the importance of making choices to focus on the unseen and eternal things. 

In this week's episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they discuss church pain and how to engage with church after experiencing hurt. They emphasize the difference between the church and God, and the importance of not projecting past hurts onto current leaders. They also discuss signs of healthy leadership, including humility, vulnerability, and openness to correction. They encourage listeners to pray for their leaders and to work on forgiveness, even in the face of disappointment and hurt.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they talk about Institutional pain in the church. They discuss the unrealistic expectations placed on leaders and the disillusionment that can result when they fail to meet them and what happens when dysfunctional leaders lead and hurt people. They encourage believers to seek God and not let offense turn into bitterness or deception. Send your questions to [email protected]

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about love. During the month of “love,” they discuss what love looks like in the honeymoon phase, when the butterflies fade, when times are tough, and what mature love looks like.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about love, dating, marriage, and relationships. They share about their own experiences in relationships and the wisdom they’ve gleaned from being in ministry for over 30 years and seeing it all.

This week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show discusses how Abraham was called to be a blessing to others and to be prosperous, and how God rewards those who are obedient to Him. Jesus taught that we should be generous, merciful, and not judge.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they discuss the power and influence of money. They talk about the differences between people who have a poverty mentality versus those who have a covetous heart or disdain for the poor.

In this week of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about conflict and give 5 tips on how to develop conflict resolution skills and resolve conflict in a godly way.

In the first episode of season 5 of the Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about how emotional health and healing are unto transformation and wholeness so that we can love Jesus more. They discuss Hebrews 12 and how we need to strengthen and heal the weak areas in our lives so we do not become dislocated and lame in our souls.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they interview their friend Sara Hagerty. Sara shares about the power and importance of connecting to your own story. They also discuss how our longing for fruit is expressed very differently when youthful zeal and energy run out. Check out her books at https://sarahagerty.net

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they interview their friend Zoe Lilly. Zoe shares about her studies around psychology and psychoanalysis and the connections between brain science and the healing of our emotions and our souls. She shares some of her own story of learning how to connect with her own story and finding the Lord in those moments.

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about emotions. What do we do with them? What do they mean? They talk about how to trace certain emotions back to their root causes and ask the Lord to help shed light on why we behave certain ways. Check out Peter Scazzero’s book Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: https://www.amazon.com/Emotionally-Healthy-Spirituality-Impossible-Spiritually/dp/0310348498/

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, Jennifer interviews Emi Sousa. Emi shares about her story of growing up with a father that was in and out of her life all while moving to a different country and culture. She also shares her stories of living by faith and relying on the Lord to be her provider. Check out what the Florianopolis House of Prayer in Brazil is doing at fhop.com and consider giving to them to support their vision and their missionaries.

In this week’s episode of the Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they chat with their dear friend around a familiar table in their old stomping grounds in Brazil. They interview Vinicius Sousa about his story as an immigrant in London and his journey of moving with Dwayne and Jennifer to Brazil and eventually taking over the Florianopolis House of Prayer (FHOP). Learn more and give to FHOP at fhop.com

In this week’s episode of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they talk about how Jesus sat with sinners and tax collectors. We are called to interact with the lost and those that are different than us, while holding true to our beliefs, and being moved in compassion and love for those that do not know Jesus.

This week on The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about Matthew 9 and how Jesus showed those around Him that He desired mercy over sacrifice. They discuss how mercy and forgiveness are at the center of the gospel.

This week Dwayne and Jennifer ask a big question, “What does God require of you?”. They look at Deuteronomy 10, and how the Lord set forth His requirements for His people: to fear the Lord and to love Him. They discuss how those requirements have not changed for us today.

This week Dwayne and Jennifer talk about 2 Corinthians 4:16-18. They discuss how, in the midst of challenges, we can choose to keep our eyes fixed on the things that we cannot see. We live in a constant tension of being present in the moment and waiting for eternity. Paul reminds us to be renewed day by day, even when our outward man is failing.

In this week’s episode, Dwayne and Jennifer break down Deuteronomy 8 and the importance of remembering what the Lord has done. The Lord also shows us in Deuteronomy 8 that He takes us through hard times to expose areas of pride and unbelief in our own hearts.

In the seventh episode of season four of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they talk about insecurities and fear and how, when they are unperceived, they are huge motivators. They take a look at Song of Solomon 1:1-5 and how the Lord is gentle in reminding us to care after our own vineyards.

In the sixth episode of season four of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about Psalm 42. Dwayne and Jennifer discuss the difficult seasons that we sometimes find ourselves in and how we need to invite the Lord into our wrestle, sit in our anguish with Him, and then preach to our own souls and remind ourselves to hope in the Lord.

In the fifth episode of the fourth season of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they dive into James 4. Dwayne and Jennifer talk about how we have a Father who loves to give good gifts to His children and how He wants us to ask Him for what we need.

In the fourth episode of season four of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show they dive into some of the wisdom of Solomon. They discuss Ecclesiastes 7 and how God ordains both the crooked and the straight path and how we cannot make the crooked path straight or the straight path crooked when the Lord is involved.

In the third episode of season four, Dwayne and Jennifer talk about the vital importance of loving all members of the Body of Christ, regardless of their gift or position. We need to love and value people because they are our brothers and sisters, not because they have a particular gifting.

In the second episode of season four of The Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about the impact of seeing Jesus interact with human emotions in a very empathetic way. They’ve been provoked by the patience He showed Martha and Mary in the story of when Lazarus was raised from the dead.

In this season premiere of the Dwayne and Jennifer Show, they talk about our desire and need for validation. They discuss why it’s crucial to first get your validation from the Lord before we look for it from others and at what point is it healthy to get validation from those around us.

In the final episode of season three of Roots: The Unseen Life Dwayne and Jennifer give practical tips and strategies to grow your spirituality. If we don’t pay attention to our spiritual growth then things will grow that we don’t want.