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The Enneagram Journey
by Suzanne Stabile
Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
Episodes
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E204: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7) Part II - Enneagram and Ministry
Welcome back on the Journey! If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better. In the latter half, the Reverend joins Suzanne, Jonathan, and B Chris to talk about life in ministry. The ups and downs, highs and...
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E203: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7)
This is the first half of a fun, and deep, conversation! Meet longtime friends and working partners, Jonathan and B Chris. We've got 2 Twos and 2 Sevens talking, so you're gonna have to pick a side! Not really of course. They joined us at The Micah Center to talk about their working relationship,...
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E202: Enneagram 9s Unite!
Get a little Flashlight going for these three Enneagram 9s! If you are a 9, or love one, or want to love one better, give this a listen. Rev. Joe Stabile, Jeff Crosby, and Dr. Billy Schewee join Suzanne in this episode to talk about Enneagram Nines and: Generational Differences Guilt and Shame...
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E201: Jenn (7) and Josh (6) Hook - State It and Rate It
As you can tell from the intro, this is a great BLEEPING episode of The Journey! Meet Jenn and Josh, a 6 and 7 handling all that life throws at them. Miscarriages, Parenting, Replanted State it and Rate it Same here paddles and more! "Shame dies when stories are told in safe spaces." - Ann…
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E200: June Q&A with The Enneagram Godmother
We finally figured out how to stream to both Facebook AND Instagram!! Thank you to everyone who joined live for this podcast recording. I (Joel) think we got to answer 13-15 questions, which is impressive for us in a one hour segment. Hopefully we'll get to do these weekly moving forward. PLUG...
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E199: Live from Minneapolis with Courtney (7) and Rachel (4)
We are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation! That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This is Rachel's first time on the show, and Courtney is an Enneagram Journey veteran, and it...
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E198: Live from Lemuria with Hunter (2) and Bradley (9)
Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram! The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We…
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E197: Will Schewee (4) - The Enneagram Goes to College
Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren! William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother. You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our...
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E196: The Micah Center: a Eulogy
Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain. Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years. As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any…
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E195: Larissa Miller (4) and Kim Honeycutt (8) - Compassion, Confrontation, Authenticity
The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice,...
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E194: Jess Everlee (5) - Lucky Lovers of London
Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee! 4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes! Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being…
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Joey Stabile Schewee - When Working Together Doesn't Work
LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey! Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the...
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Dr. Molly (8) - Anxiety, Egregious Self Confidence, Grief and Loss
Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast! Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but...
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Austin Channing Brown (9) - Foreboding Joy, Full Of Myself
Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown! Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church. Decision Making Passive Aggressive Anger Repressed Doing Foreboding...
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Q&A - July 2025
Q&A Episode in the house! We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!). "Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?" Then we get to talk about: 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they...
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TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way! Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life…
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Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
Let's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings. Can you have an enneagram conversation between a…
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Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne! How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram,...
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Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of...
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Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much…
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Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications…
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Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter…
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Laura Murray (4) - Home, Hospitality, Spiritual Practice
Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4. Laura is married to an Enneagram 5 The difference between Home and where you…
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Jonathan Merritt (3) - Navigating Relationships, My Guncle and Me
Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered them." It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it! Jonathan is a writer on...
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Br5aking The Cycle
The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means). As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour…
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October 2024 Q&A
Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from...
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Darnell (1) and Alex (8) - Be Right or In Relationship?, Triggers, Enneagram Cohort
The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure!…
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Micky ScottBey Jones (1) - Accompaniment, Doula, Burnout
Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing...
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Luke Norsworthy (7) - How to Love the Life You Already Have
We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!)…
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Tony Jones (8) - The God of Wild Places
Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places. “One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable. We’ve paved too many wild...
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Chanel Dokun (1) - Binding Wounds, Liturgies, Reclaim the Morning
"You can’t treat what you haven’t diagnosed and you can’t diagnose what you haven’t assessed." - Chanel Dokun "You can't fix what you can't name." - Suzanne Stabile Yeah, the two of them could talk for way longer than an hour! But, for today, let's meet Enneagram One, Chanel Dokun. She is a…
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Alison McCrary (3) Part Two - Calling and Community
The highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here! The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and...
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Alison McCrary (3) - Big 3 Energy, Spiritual Practices, Queer Eye
"A contemplative practice is any act, habitually entered into with your whole heart, as a way of awakening, deepening, and sustaining a contemplative experience of the inherent holiness of the present moment." -James Finley What an honor it is to have Alison McCrary join us on The Enneagram...
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Matt Lesser (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Assessments, his Dark Night of the Soul
Meet Enneagram Eight, Matt Lesser, the third third of the first third of our series with three members of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort! The man has done some work, and he shares his journey with us beginning with a life threatening illness when he was 15, depression in his twenties, and his dark…
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Alex Reegan (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Both/And, Shamanic Spirituality
Welcome to Part 2 of what we envision to be a 9 part series throughout 2024 following 3 members of The LTM Enneagram Cohort features, enneagram 8, Alex Reegan! Alex Reegan is the author of What Needs To Be Said, as well as an interfaith minister, speaker, and transformative spiritual coach who…
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Darnell Young (1) - Enneagram Cohort, Critic Talk, Context
This is the first episode of an anticipated 10 Episode series over the next year, that we're really excited for! You have most likely heard about the LTM Cohort program on the podcast, and what better way to talk about it then to follow along with 3 Cohort members? On today's show, meet Enneagram...
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"The Monday Group" - Small Groups, Spiritual Formation, and Barbie
Meet some of the members of LTM's first online Enneagram Journey Curriculum group! Suzanne and Joel talk with Chelsea (8), Jennifer (4), Maria (2), Marty (2), Hillary (2), Matt (6), and Ronna (8) in today's episode about how they found each other and what the Journey has been like so far. Then…
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Josh Graves (3) - The Simple Secret
"Marriage has taught me that two people can experience reality in two very different ways." - Josh Graves Welcome Josh Graves, preaching and teaching minister at Otter Creek Church in Nashville, TN and author of The Simple Secret: Choosing Love in a Culture of Hostility, and an Enneagram 3. A...
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Jeff Crosby (9) - Spiritual Practice of Reading, Forgiveness, Language of the Soul
If you're a fan of The Enneagram Journey then there is a good chance you're a fan of books. Today's episode is filled with good book talk because Suzanne's dear friend Jeff Crosby is on the show. Jeff, Enneagram Nine and author of The Language of The Soul, shares his experience as a 9, what...
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December 2023 Q&A
It's been a busy season, but The Enneagram Journey is back with a fantastic episode of Q&A with Suzanne, and a special appearance from Dr. Andy Stoker. CLICK HERE to ask a question for a future Q&A episode! "Enneagram 7s Reframe, Enneagram 3s Restructure" The Seventh Law of Emotional Triangles…
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Jason Miller (5) - Promiscuous, Non-Anxious, When The World Breaks
You may know that Suzanne was introduced to the world of podcasting through friend of the show, Luke Norsworthy. Now Luke has introduced Suzanne to Jason Miller, Enneagram 5, pastor at South Bend City Church and author of When The World Breaks. We'll get a peek at their relationship and Jason's...
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Brian Lee (1) - Security Line, Perfect/Correct/Right, Broken to Beloved
Enneagram Ones, have you named your Inner Critic? In this episode, Brian Lee shares his relationship with his Critic, as well as his journey from Broken to Beloved. Suzanne and Brian talk about Ennneagram One's relationship with Perfection and it what that my mean, and a great discussion about…
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Mallory Wyckoff (3) - Curiosity, Imaginative Prayer, God Is
Channeling our inner Jeff Foxworthy... If you've ever thought to yourself, "How can I make sure people already know that I know the Enneagram and that I'm not new to it like they are?", you might be an Enneagram 3! Welcome Mallory Wyckoff to The Enneagram Journey! Mallory Wyckoff (DMin, MTS) is a...
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Change, Change, Change
Very cool episode of The Enneagram Journey podcast today. In the Spring of 2023 Suzanne and Joe taught a 2 day workshop on Change. Change and Spirituality, Change and the Enneagram, Change and Me, Change and You, CHANGE! The conversation today between Joe and Suzanne is the second segment of that...
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August 2023 Q&A
Its your monthly Q&A session with Suzanne! I'm struggling between knowing if I'm a 1 or a 2 Question from a 6 and 9 in relationship and new to the enneagram Several questions about Enneagram 4s and relationships How can a 5 and 9 get stuff done? A parenting question AND MORE "It's never really a...
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Jasmine Miller (6) - Layered Thinking & Doing Things Afraid
Meet Jasmine Miller! Enneagram 6, mother of two, married to Nat (9), and your new favorite Public Service Announcer. In today's episode, we're going to listen to a little of the show Lost, talk about Fear and Anxiety, journaling, and what it's like to be an enneagram 6 with two little ones…
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Back to School with the Enneagram Parents
It is that time! Joey and Billy Schewee ,aka the Enneagram Parents, join Suzanne and Joel at The Micah Center to talk about this magical time of the year that is: BACK TO SCHOOL TIME! They're going to share some of their experiences, what they've learned from others on The Journey and help us to...
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June 2023 Q&A
A lot packed into today's episode! This Q&A conversation was recorded in front of a live audience on The Table. Suzanne answers questions that have been sent in via the voicemail app on theenneagramjourney.com as well as some that were submitted live during the recording. What is her experience...
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Sandra Van Opstal (8) & Karl Ostroski (1) - Getting Things Done
A groundbreaking show! TEJ's first 8 and 1 conversation! You probably know Sandra from the Enneagram Daily Reflections Series, she authored 40 Days on Being an 8. If you don't know her yet, get to meet her and her husband Karl in today's episode. Don't get distracted by the frog talk in the start...
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Kendra Adachi (1) - The Lazy Genius
"How can we 'Lazy Genius' this?" Find out in this episode of The Enneagram Journey with enneagram 1, Kendra Adachi! Kendra and Suzanne talk about: their perspectives as a 1 and a 2 in the world The Dependent Stance and their relationship with Childhood Wounds is Joel a man-child? (Spoiler: his…
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Using the wisdom of the Enneagram, and ongoing discussion and conversation, we will grow compassion for ourselves and others, as well as a better understanding for why we do what we do!
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Suzanne Stabile
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