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The Laity Podcast

by Andrew and Stephen

A space for meaningful conversation about Christian spirituality, discovery, and practice.

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Episodes

  1. Ep. 45 - July 2020 & Prophetic Imagination

    Welcome back! In this episode, Andrew and Stephen dialog on the current state of the world, the Church, and our opportunity to lean into some prophetic imagination.

  2. Ep. 44 - Blood, Brutal, and Barbaric? On OT Violence w/ Bill Web and Gord Oeste

    We recognize that this episode is being aired amidst incredible pain, injustice, and widespread protest of the murder of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmad Abrey, and many others. To be clear, this conversation was recorded over 4 weeks ago, and does not contain any content relevant to these...

  3. Ep. 43 - Justin Fry - Church, Formation, and Spiritual Journey

    We're thrilled to air this recent conversation with Justin Fry - Pastoral Care Pastor at Grace Midtown Church here in Atlanta. Justin is not only a spiritual leader in our immediate community but a close friend and mentor. In this episode, we dialog around a variety of relevant topics, from...

  4. Ep. 42 - Can God Stop COVID-19? w/ Thomas Jay Oord

    We are privileged to have author, theologian, teacher, and scholar Thomas Jay Oord back on the podcast. In this timely episode, we overlay Tom's open and relational framework of God with the current global pandemic that is COVID-19. Can God stop this viral tragedy? What is God's essential nature?...

  5. Ep. 41 - David Bentley Hart - That All Shall Be Saved

    In November 2019, we had the privilege of interviewing orthodox theologian, David Bentley Hart, to discuss his latest book, That All Shall Be Saved: Heaven, Hell, and Universal Salvation. We absolutely loved the book and would highly recommend! If you've never read or heard of Dr. Hart, we'd...

  6. Ep. 40 - Terence Lester - Love Beyond Walls

    We are thrilled to release this episode, featuring fellow Atlantan Terence Lester and his latest book from IVP, I See You: How Love Opens Our Eyes to Invisible People. Terence Lester is a speaker, activist, author, and thought leader in the realm of systemic poverty. He’s known for nationwide...

  7. Ep. 39 - Preach and the Messiness of Faith - Lee Hale

    Lee Hale is a reporter at KUER (NPR) based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is also the host of Preach, a new podcast about the messiness of faith. In this episode, we had the pleasure of interviewing Lee, discussing his personal faith journey and current experience as a podcast host. On Preach, Lee...

  8. Ep. 38 - Ron Sider on Non-Violence - If Jesus is Lord

    It's been a while! We're excited to release this latest episode with Ron Sider - author, theologian, professor, and significant non-violent Christian voice. In this episode we discuss his latest book, If Jesus Is Lord: Loving Our Enemies in an Age of Violence. Be sure to check out Ron's…

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  9. Ep. 37 - We're Back...And There's More to Come

    We're back with a new episode - a candid conversation between Stephen and Andrew, catching up on personal life, spirituality, what we're reading, where we're headed. Life has had us a bit slow on new episodes this summer, but we're excited to ramp up in September and launch a number of new,...

  10. Ep. 36 - Marty Solomon - On Sabbath, Family, and BEMA

    Thank you, thank you to Marty Solomon for joining us in this latest episode! Marty is the co-host of the BEMA Discipleship Podcast, the President of Impact Campus Ministries, a father, husband, teacher, a disciple of Jesus. Marty is a fantastic guest, and in this episode we discuss everything…

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  11. Ep. 35 - Gemma Simmonds - Ignatian Spirituality

    Welcome, Gemma Simmonds CJ, to the Laity Podcast! Super grateful to have Gemma on the show to discuss Ignatian Spirituality, alongside her recent book release, The Way of Ignatius: A Prayer Journey Through Lent. While it's now Easter season, this book/episode is highly relevant for anyone...

  12. Ep. 34 - Adam Gustine - Becoming a Just Church

    We're stoked to have Adam Gustine on the podcast! Adam is the author of Becoming a Just Church - Cultivating Communities of God's Shalom. We absolutely loved this conversation and encourage everyone to listen. Adam, thank you for the time, and continue the good work. Certainly convicting and...

  13. Ep. 33 - Open & Relational Theology (Pt. V) - Conclusion

    Welcome to the final installment of our Open and Relational series. In this episode, we reflect on the last three guests on the podcast, refresh on the open and relational theology ecosystem, and discuss some potential gaps. If you find yourself unsure of how to put all this content together…

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  14. Ep. 32 - Open & Relational Theology (Pt. IV) - Tripp Fuller

    We're stoked to have the most O.G. Christian podcaster of our day, Tripp Fuller, on the podcast with us! For those who don't know, Tripp is the host of the Homebrewed Christianity Podcast, though he is also a speaker, pastor, author, actor, and fan of all things process theology. We're excited to...

  15. Ep. 31 - Open & Relational Theology (Pt. III) - Rabbi Artson

    In this special episode we are elated to share a recent conversation with Rabbi Bradley Shavit Artson - Professor of Philosophy, Dean of the Ziegler School of Rabbinic Studies at American Jewish University, speaker, podcaster, and Jewish process theologian based in Los Angeles. In this third...

  16. Ep. 30 - Open & Relational Theology (Pt. II) - Thomas Jay Oord, God Can't

    Welcome to Part II of the Open and Relational Theology series! We're super excited to be joined by Thomas Jay Oord - author, theologian, philosopher, and Open/Relational extraordinaire. In this episode we dive into Tom's latest book, God Can't - How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy…

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  17. Ep. 29 - Open & Relational Theology (Pt. I) - Introduction

    Welcome to Part I of our new series, Open & Relational Theology. In the multi-part series, we'll be featuring a number of unique guests over the next month or so, so stay tuned! In this episode, Stephen and Andrew have an organic dialog around frameworks of God, ways of thinking about…

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  18. Ep. 28 - Justin Lee - Talking Across the Divide

    In this episode, we welcome Justin Lee - evangelical Christian, activist, author, and speaker - to discuss his latest book, Talking Across the Divide. We're super grateful to have Justin on to give us some of his personal story, discuss effective communication in Christian community…

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  19. Ep. 27 - Gender Roles & Scripture (Pt II) - Kate Wallace Nunneley

    We're excited to share this recent conversation with Kate Wallace Nunneley, continuing the discussion on gender roles, the Bible, and women in the Church. Kate gives us some great insight into The Junia Project, her perspective and experience as a female pastor, and terms like "Christian…

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  20. Ep. 26 - 2018: Laity Podcast Year in Review feat. Tom Lombardi

    With the coming of a new year, we wanted to take a dedicated episode to discuss the last year doing this podcast. In this reflective episode, we welcome Tom Lombardi (interviewing us!) to discuss highlights, breakthroughs, feedback, learning experiences, and how we're looking at Laity going into...

  21. Ep. 25 - Sharon Galgay Ketcham - Reciprocal Church

    In this episode we welcome author, professor, and practical theologian, Sharon Galgay Ketchum, to discuss her new book, Reciprocal Church: Becoming a Community Where Faith Flourishes Beyond High School. As two adults who grew up in church, Stephen and I enjoyed discussing everything from the...

  22. Ep. 24 - Drew Hart & Sarah Fe Harris - Trouble I've Seen

    Continuing the conversation on racism, whiteness, and the Church, we're excited to share a recent dialog with Dr. Drew Hart and Sarah Fe Harris, joining us from Harrisburg, PA. Drew is the author of Trouble I've Seen: Changing the Way the Church Views Racism. In this four-way conversation, Drew…

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  23. Ep. 23 - Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove - Slaveholder Religion & Reconstructing the Gospel

    About a month ago we had the pleasure of speaking with author, speaker, activist, and pastor, Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, on his way home from a rally in Greensboro, NC. In this episode we're diving into his latest book, Reconstructing the Gospel: Finding Freedom From Slaveholder Religion, to...

  24. Ep. 22 - Luke Norsworthy - God Over Good

    In this episode we welcome pastor, author, and podcaster extraordinaire, Luke Norsworthy, to discuss his new book, God Over Good: Saving Your Faith by Losing your Expectations of God. Luke is the host of Newsworthy With Norsworthy, a Christian/spirituality-centered podcast Stephen and Andrew have...

  25. Ep. 21 - Brian Zahnd on Salvation, Eschatology, and the Kingdom of God

    BZ is back! Rounding out our series on the Kingdom of God, in this episode we dive into the meaning of salvation in light of the Kingdom, "end times," heaven/hell, and much more. As always, check out Brian's blog, his books, and Word of Life Church. Also, check out this chapter from Sinner's in…

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  26. Ep. 20 - Bruxy Cavey on the Gospel, Atonement, and the Kingdom

    Join us for this enlightening and inspiring discussion with our Canadian friend, Bruxy Cavey - author, pastor, teacher, and spiritual leader. In this episode we dive into the meaning of the Gospel, atonement theories, and Jesus in light of the Kingdom of God. Definitely check out Bruxy's work,...

  27. Ep. 19 - Jarrod McKenna on the Kingdom of God

    Thank you, Jarrod McKenna, for joining us from Perth, Australisa, taking us back to the heart of the Kingdom. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did. The heart of the Father, contemplemative prayer, knowing the love of Jesus, and the presence of God leading to action. May this...

  28. Ep. 18 - Dr. Christine Pohl - Hospitality and the Kingdom of God

    Hope you enjoy this conversation with Dr. Christine Pohl (Asbury Theological Seminary) joining us from Wilmore, Kentucky to discuss on hospitality, the stranger, community, and life in the Church. Definitely check out her most famous work, Making Room: Recovering Hospitality as a Christian...

  29. Ep. 17 - Richard Beck on the Kingdom of God

    We're super excited to share this recent conversation with Dr. Richard Beck - author, Professor of Psychology, teacher, blogger, and spiritual leader - joining us from Abilene, Texas. We're diving into The Kingdom of God and radical hospitality, the politics of the Kingdom, transgressive...

  30. Ep. 16 - Kurt Willems on the Kingdom of God

    Kurt Willems is back with us as we kick off our new series on the Kingdom of God. Kurt helps us lay the First Century foundations/context for Jesus' ministry, what this "Kingdom" language is all about, and which competing "gospels" were at play in his day. Stay tuned for additional guests and...

  31. Ep. 15 - Bonnie Kristian - A Flexible Faith

    Bonnie Kristian joins us from the Twin Cities to discuss her new book, A Flexible Faith: Rethinking What It Means to Follow Jesus Today. In this fantastic book, Bonnie takes some of Christianity's most pressing and discussed subjects - Bible, sexuality, gender roles, eschatology, providence, etc.…

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  32. Ep. 14 - Keith Giles - House Church & Jesus Unbound

    In this episode we have Keith Giles joining us from a McDonald's in El Paso, TX (please forgive the fast food ambiance). Joining us for this discussion around House Church, The Word of God vs. The Bible, Keith's latest book, Jesus Unbound, and much more. Thanks, Keith! Great to have you as a…

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  33. Ep. 13 - Brian Zahnd - Rethinking Everything

    In this episode we're grateful to have Brian Zahnd joining us for a discussion around rebirth, transaction v. transformation, the politics of Jesus, and a taste of his newest book to be, Postcards from Babylon... References: Brian Zahnd blog Word of Life Church A Farewell to Mars Water to Wine...

  34. Ep. 12 - Kurt Willems - Anabaptism and Beyond

    In this episode, we welcome Kurt Willems to the podcast! Kurt is a founding pastor at Pangea Church in Seattle. Additional projects include: Theology Curator Pangea Blog The Paulcast Rapture Drill Relevation Cheat Sheet Hope you enjoy as we dive into his story, Anabaptism, pacifism, atonement…

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  35. Ep. 11 - On Discipleship & Mission - Now, and Then

    In this episode we go back to our roots - discussing discipleship, evangelism, mission, the Gospel, and how "the rubric" has changed over the years. As life changes, families grow, and responsibilities increase, following Jesus evolves and the old metrics don't necessarily hold up. That said…

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  36. Ep. 10 - Cody Deese - How to Shrink a Church

    In this episode, we joined (live!) by Cody Deese - lead pastor at Vinings Lake Church, President of Presence, and fellow journeyman in de/reconstruction. Cody dives into his personal faith journey - how he grew up, where the "wheels came off," how he made sense of it, and what it means to move...

  37. Ep. 9 - Gender Roles & Scripture (Pt. I) - Nathan Gilmour

    In this episode we welcome our second guest, Nate Gilmour. Nate is a Professor of English at Emmanuel College in Franklin Springs, Georgia, and is the host of the Christian Humanist Podcast. Nate has a Doctorate in Philosophy from the University of Georgia, with a Masters in English and Religion,...

  38. Ep. 8 - On Jonathan Haidt, Moral Foundations and Why Religion Divides

    In this episode we begin with a discussion around Biblical interpretation, why we disagree (politically, socially, religiously), and the mechanisms in play when we make moral judgements. We dive into the work of Jonathan Haidt, namely his book, The Righteous Mind. Haidt gives us a glimpse into...

  39. Ep. 7 - Doug King (Pt II) & The Wilderness Wandering

    Join us for a follow up conversation with Doug King from Presence. In this episode we give a brief refresher on Spiral Dynamics (see Ep. 6) and take a deeper dive into the "wilderness wandering," the space in between the stages of the spiral. Hope you enjoy this conversation as we go a bit deeper...

  40. Ep. 6 - Doug King & Spiral Dynamics

    Doug King from Presence joins us on this episode of the podcast! We're diving into spiral dyamics, spiritual consciousness, the Biblical narrative, integral theology, and its implications today. Stay tuned for Part II of the conversation in our next installment. Thank you, Doug, for your time and...

  41. Ep. 5 - What about the Bible? Pt. II

    Welcome to Part II of our latest mini-series on the Bible. In this episode we pick up where we left off in Part I, so definitely start there. Here we're diving into Greg Boyd, violence in the Old Testament, reading the Bible with a Cruciform lens, "Is the Bible the Word of God?", and much more....

  42. Ep. 4 - What about the Bible? Pt. I

    "Inerrant." "Infallible." "Inspired." "Relevation." ...just the tip of the iceberg of Biblical interpretation and what it means for us today. In this episode we dive into some of those topics, coupled with some material from Peter Enns and Greg Boyd. References: Inspiration and Incarnation - Pete...

  43. Ep. 3 - Nondual thinking, Richard Rohr, & Starting with, "Yes"

    Apologies for the delay in new material! We're very excited to release our latest episode on dualism, in-and-out thinking, Richard Rohr, judgment, and "Starting with, 'Yes'". References include: Richard Rohr // The Center For Action and Contemplation The Naked Now - Richard Rohr Falling Upward -...

  44. Ep. 2 - On Peter Rollins, Pyrotheology & The Idolatry of God

    Welcome to Episode 1! In this episode, we discuss holding the tension, mystery, embracing uncertainty, and the idolatry of religion with the help of the work of Peter Rollins. Definitely check out some of Pete's work and stay tuned for a follow up episode on self-critique, disagreement, and the...

  45. Ep. 1 - The Laity Podcast, An Introduction

    Welcome to the revamped, inaugural episode of The Laity Podcast! In this brief introduction we dive into what the podcast is about, why the title, who we are and where we're headed.

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Andrew and Stephen

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