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The Leading Learning Podcast
by Jocelyn Seamer
This podcast is for school leaders who want to level up and scale their school improvement journey
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S1 E7 - We've Done the PL, but Our Team Can't Get Started
In this episode, Jocelyn explores why new teaching practices often fail to take hold after professional learning sessions, and how giving teachers one clear, concrete starting point - rather than open-ended freedom - better supports beginners in building consistent, effective habits.
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S1 E6 - Data, Data Everywhere: But Learning Still Won't Stick
In this episode, Jocelyn explores how to close the gap between assessment data and classroom instruction. She argues that diagnostic and formative assessment need to be built directly into school-wide systems, not treated as separate from planning, and offers three practical questions and simple tools to help leaders and teachers make data actually drive what happens in classrooms.
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S1 E5 - The Real Work Begins Where the Program Runs Out
Jocelyn reflects on what happens when a well-built instructional program stops providing answers, and what leadership teams must do next. This episode explores the difference between building a minimum viable system and the deeper, more demanding work of continuous improvement, offering practical frameworks for diagnosing why a subset of students isn't progressing and how to design targeted responses grounded in evidence rather than chasing new programs.
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S1 E4 - Why Teachers 'Go Rogue'
In this episode, Jocelyn explores why instructional initiatives lose consistency during implementation, and offers a practical five-step framework to reset and strengthen practice across a school.
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S1 E3 - Who Makes Decisions in Your School?
Today's episode forcuses on school leadership, exploring who truly holds decision-making power in school improvement... and why it matters. Jocelyn unpacks how even capable leaders accidentally hand over authority through outsourcing to consultants, blindly following system guidance, or over-delegating to staff.
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S1 E2 - How to Steer Clear of Bright and Shiny Things
In this second episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jocelyn explores how school leaders can avoid the trap of chasing every new initiative and instead make strategic, high-impact decisions. Drawing on Jim Collins' Hedgehog Principle from Good to Great, she introduces the NICE framework a practical four-part test to help leaders evaluate new work before committing to it. Whether you're weighing a new program, platform, or approach, NICE gives you the discipline to say no to the bright and shiny so you can say yes to what genuinely moves the needle for students.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
This podcast is for school leaders who want to level up and scale their school improvement journey
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Jocelyn Seamer
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