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The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments
by Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy
What types of organisation, institution and industries are performing work that tests human resilience and evokes powerful feelings of shame, sadness, fear and disgust? Does working with people who commit serious crimes like rape and murder affect the staff who work with them? How do you overcome adversity and protect yourself from burnout or compassion fatigue? Naomi Murphy and David Jones have decades of experience of working in prisons and other forensic settings. They host experts across a range of disciplines to discover what are some of the challenges that make a difference in fostering resilience and creativity in those who live and work in challenging organisations
Episodes
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Rodney King (Audio); Being Human, Mindfulness, and the Cost of Modern Success
Rodney King (Video); Being Human, Mindfulness, and the Cost of Modern Success Dr. Rodney King joins David Jones and Dr. Naomi Murphy to trace the arc of a life shaped by poverty, violence, reading, martial arts, and a search for meaning. The conversation moves from embodied mindfulness and...
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Rodney King (Video); Being Human, Mindfulness, and the Cost of Modern Success
Dr. Rodney King joins David Jones and Dr. Naomi Murphy to trace the arc of a life shaped by poverty, violence, reading, martial arts, and a search for meaning. The conversation moves from embodied mindfulness and leadership to philosophical counselling, chronic illness, and why he is sceptical of...
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Dr Elly Hanson (Audio ); Porn Is Not About Sex - It’s About Shaping Desire for Profit
This conversation with clinical psychologist Dr Elly Hanson, hosted by Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones, looks at the commercial and cultural drivers of sexual exploitation, and why regulation matters when profit is shaping sexuality online. It also moves into the emotional cost of doing this…
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Dr Elly Hanson (Video); Porn Is Not About Sex - It’s About Shaping Desire for Profit
This conversation with clinical psychologist Dr Elly Hanson, hosted by Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones, looks at the commercial and cultural drivers of sexual exploitation, and why regulation matters when profit is shaping sexuality online. It also moves into the emotional cost of doing this…
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Richard Buckworth (Audio); Why Feeling “Normal” Can Be the Biggest Lie After Adoption
In this interview, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Richard Buckworth about adoption, identity, and the long shadow of unprocessed trauma. Richard shares how his experience as an adoptee shaped his upcoming book, One Voice, and the therapeutic work he now does with family…
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Richard Buckworth (Video}; Why Feeling “Normal” Can Be the Biggest Lie After Adoption
In this interview, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Richard Buckworth about adoption, identity, and the long shadow of unprocessed trauma. Richard shares how his experience as an adoptee shaped his upcoming book, One Voice, and the therapeutic work he now does with family…
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Joseph Millson (Video); How Abuse Shapes a Life—and How Stories Help Us Survive
In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones are joined by Joseph Millson, actor, writer, filmmaker and singer, currently appearing in The Phantom of the Opera in London’s West End. He’s also the author of Miller Rose Roberts, a novella that moves between psychological realism and something...
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Joseph Millson (Audio); How Abuse Shapes a Life—and How Stories Help Us Survive
In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones are joined by Joseph Millson, actor, writer, filmmaker and singer, currently appearing in The Phantom of the Opera in London’s West End. He’s also the author of Miller Rose Roberts, a novella that moves between psychological realism and something...
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Dr Beverley Samways (Audio); Why Self-Injury in Non-Speaking People Is Often Misread. Trauma Gets Missed in Learning Disability Care
This conversation explores Dr Beverley Samways work with people with learning disabilities who have experienced trauma and use little or no spoken communication. The discussion focuses on how self-injury has often been misunderstood through behavioural frameworks, and why a more relational,...
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Dr Beverley Samways (Video); Why Self-Injury in Non-Speaking People Is Often Misread. Trauma Gets Missed in Learning Disability Care
This conversation explores Dr Beverley Samways work with people with learning disabilities who have experienced trauma and use little or no spoken communication. The discussion focuses on how self-injury has often been misunderstood through behavioural frameworks, and why a more relational,...
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Mike Bell (audio); Boys Are Underachieving - Six Schools Proved It needn’t be so
In this important conversation David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy talk about why so many boys underachieve at school with Mike Bell. And why has so little research been done on this subject? Mike is a former science teacher, evidence-based teaching trainer, author of Fundamentals of Teaching…
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Mike Bell (Video); Boys Are Underachieving - Six Schools Proved It needn’t be so
In this important conversation David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy talk about why so many boys underachieve at school with Mike Bell. And why has so little research been done on this subject? Mike is a former science teacher, evidence-based teaching trainer, author of Fundamentals of Teaching…
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Kelly Edmondson (audio); Why Grief Support Fails When It Ends Too Soon
David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet Kelly Edmondson, healthcare executive, former trauma ICU nurse, board certified grief counsellor, bereaved mother, and founder of Timely Presence. This is a very powerful and moving account as Kelly describes some of the tragic moments that have led to her…
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Kelly Edmondson (Video); Why Grief Support Fails When It Ends Too Soon
David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet Kelly Edmondson, healthcare executive, former trauma ICU nurse, board certified grief counsellor, bereaved mother, and founder of Timely Presence. This is a very powerful and moving account as Kelly describes some of the tragic moments that have led to her…
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Dr Pawel Szczesny (Audio); The hidden AI risk nobody talks about: your thoughts start sounding borrowed
Dr Naomi Murphy, David Jones and Dr Pawel Szczesny have a conversation about AI. This conversation explores how AI is shaping human thinking, decision-making, creativity, and workplace habits. Dr Szczesny, co-founder and CEO of Impersonato, explains why his company builds synthetic personas as...
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Dr Pawel Szczesny; The hidden AI risk nobody talks about: your thoughts start sounding borrowedideo; The hidden AI risk nobody talks about: your thoughts start sounding borrowed
Dr Naomi Murphy, David Jones and Dr Pawel Szczesny have a conversation about AI. This conversation explores how AI is shaping human thinking, decision-making, creativity, and workplace habits. Dr Szczesny, co-founder and CEO of Impersonato, explains why his company builds synthetic personas as...
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Neil Wallace (Audio); So We Adopted: The Untold Truths of Building a Family Through Adoption
In this conversation with Naomi Murphy and David Jones Neil shares the raw reality of adopting two siblings in 2023 in this heartfelt episode. From navigating the invasive process to managing the emotional rollercoaster, Neil provides honest insights into a journey many find daunting but rarely...
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Neil Wallace (Video); So We Adopted: The Untold Truths of Building a Family Through Adoption
In this conversation with Naomi Murphy and David Jones Neil shares the raw reality of adopting two siblings in 2023 in this heartfelt episode. From navigating the invasive process to managing the emotional rollercoaster, Neil provides honest insights into a journey many find daunting but rarely...
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Francisco Baptista (Audio); Why Focusing on Individual Resilience Ignores Systemic Conditions That Burn Out Teams
In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore how systems thinking, internal family systems, and leadership mindset shifts can transform organizations from within. Francisco Baptista shares insights on addressing systemic dysfunction, fostering resilience, and the power of small...
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Francisco Baptista (Video); Why Focusing on Individual Resilience Ignores Systemic Conditions That Burn Out Teams
In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore how systems thinking, internal family systems, and leadership mindset shifts can transform organizations from within. Francisco Baptista shares insights on addressing systemic dysfunction, fostering resilience, and the power of small...
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Rhia Canady (Audio); Building Bridges: How Fly Girl Foundation Supports Women Post-Incarceration
Rhia Canady (Video); Building Bridges: How Fly Girl Foundation Supports Women Post-Incarceration In this episode Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Rhia Canady who shares her powerful journey from incarceration to founding Fly Girl Foundation, highlighting resilience, community support, and the...
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Rhia Canady (Video); Building Bridges: How Fly Girl Foundation Supports Women Post-Incarceration
In this episode Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Rhia Canady who shares her powerful journey from incarceration to founding Fly Girl Foundation, highlighting resilience, community support, and the importance of targeted interventions for women with lived experience of the criminal justice…
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Leon Towers (Audio); The Hidden Lessons Child Trafficking and Trauma Taught Me About Forgiveness
In this fascinating episode, Naomi and David talk with Leon Towers who shares his extraordinary journey from a challenging childhood in foster care to becoming a multifaceted professional, including roles as a performer, dog behaviourist, and advocate. His story highlights resilience…
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Leon Towers (Video); The Hidden Lessons Child Trafficking and Trauma Taught Me About Forgiveness
In this fascinating episode, Naomi and David talk with Leon Towers who shares his extraordinary journey from a challenging childhood in foster care to becoming a multifaceted professional, including roles as a performer, dog behaviourist, and advocate. His story highlights resilience…
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Dr Lynette Ewart (audio); The Power of Strength Training to Transform Health, Self-Confidence and Resilience
Discover how strength training can revolutionize health, aging, and self-confidence through evidence-based insights from Dr Lynette Ewart. This episode explores the intersection of medicine, coaching, and the psychological power of physical resilience. In this episode, we discuss: Lynette's…
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Dr Lynette Ewart (video); The Power of Strength Training to Transform Health, Self-Confidence and Resilience
Discover how strength training can revolutionize health, aging, and self-confidence through evidence-based insights from Dr Lynette Ewart. This episode explores the intersection of medicine, coaching, and the psychological power of physical resilience. In this episode, we discuss: Lynette's…
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Jeffrey Lee (Audio); Re release, How a Jury’s Life Sentence Was Overridden by a Single Judge — A Shocking Practice
In an unusual move for us we are re releasing this podcast. The reasons are clear if you read on, Please circulate to all friends and contacts. Jeffrey Lee remains alive and on death row at Holman Correctional Facility, Alabama, as of 30th June 2026.. Here is the latest update from his legal team...
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Jeffrey Lee (Video); Re release, How a Jury’s Life Sentence Was Overridden by a Single Judge — A Shocking Practice
In an unusual move for us we are re releasing this podcast. The reasons are clear if you read on, Please circulate to all friends and contacts. Jeffrey Lee remains alive and on death row at Holman Correctional Facility, Alabama, as of 30th June 2026.. Here is the latest update from his legal team...
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Max Schurer (Audio); The Unseen Power Dynamic: How Comedians Control the Room Without Saying a Word
summary In this episode which is a bit outside of our usual conversations, we meet Max Schurer who shares his multifaceted relationship with comedy, exploring what makes things funny, the purpose of comedy, and its impact on society and individual well-being. We look at the art of stand-up,...
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Max Schurer (Video); The Unseen Power Dynamic: How Comedians Control the Room Without Saying a Word
summary In this episode which is a bit outside of our usual conversations, we meet Max Schurer who shares his multifaceted relationship with comedy, exploring what makes things funny, the purpose of comedy, and its impact on society and individual well-being. We look at the art of stand-up,...
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Simon Scott 2 (Audio); The Hidden Emotional Toll on Families of Long-Sentenced Prisoners
Simon Scott 2 (Video); The Hidden Emotional Toll on Families of Long-Sentenced Prisoners This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher...
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Simon Scott 2 (Video); The Hidden Emotional Toll on Families of Long-Sentenced Prisoners
This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher with lived experience, about his groundbreaking PhD study on the ripple effects of...
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Dr Coral Westaway (Audio); Why Should Modern Psychology Embrace Energy and Spirituality Why Should Modern Psychology Embrace Energy and Spirituality?
summary Dr Coral Westaway (Video); Why Should Modern Psychology Embrace Energy and Spirituality? In this conversation Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Dr. Coral Westaway and explore the world of energy psychology, its techniques like EFT, and its integration with traditional psychology....
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Dr Coral Westaway (Video); Why Should Modern Psychology Embrace Energy and Spirituality?
summary In this conversation Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Dr. Coral Westaway and explore the world of energy psychology, its techniques like EFT, and its integration with traditional psychology. She shares her personal journey, the importance of holistic health, and how energy work…
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Stephanie Davies (Audio); Inside the Mind of a Coroner's Officer Who Challenges Authority and Uncovers Injustice
In this episode, Dr. Steph Davies shares her extensive experience working at the front lines of death investigations, challenging assumptions, and uncovering hidden truths in suspicious and staged scenes. Her insights highlight the importance of meticulous forensic analysis and the pressing need...
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Stephanie Davies (Video); Inside the Mind of a Coroner's Officer Who Challenges Authority and Uncovers Injustice
In this episode, Dr. Steph Davies shares her extensive experience working at the front lines of death investigations, challenging assumptions, and uncovering hidden truths in suspicious and staged scenes. Her insights highlight the importance of meticulous forensic analysis and the pressing need...
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Dr Fiona Warren (Audio); The Hidden Cost Savings of Henderson Hospital — And What Led to Its Closure despite the research
Following last weeks expanded conversation with Chris Scanlon about the Henderson Hospital Dr Fiona Warren discusses her journey through her research career which involved personality disorders, therapeutic communities, and service effectiveness. This episode, an expanded version of the original...
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Dr Chris Scanlon (audio); From Innovation to Closure: The Uncomfortable Story of Henderson Hospital's Research Legacy
Five years ago, 2021, David Jones and Naomi Murphy began the Locked up Living podcast. Over 400 episodes later we are still going and are proud of the library of conversations we have produced with so many excellent colleagues. This is an extended version of an episode from 2021 previously shared...
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Keith Grounsell (Audio); Navigating Danger: An undercover policeman’s Journey of Growth Amidst Crime and Family Challenges
In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and...
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Keith Grounsell (Video); Navigating Danger: An undercover policeman’s Journey of Growth Amidst Crime and Family Challenges
In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and...
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Jean Trounstine (Audio); How Literature Transforms Women Behind Bars
Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind...
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Jean Trounstine (Video); How Literature Transforms Women Behind Bars
Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind...
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Barbara Rawlings (Audio); Unlocking the Secrets of successful treatment—What Makes a Therapeutic CommunityTruly Effective
Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community. She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities. These have been in...
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Barbara Rawlings Video; Unlocking the Secrets of successful treatment—What Makes a Therapeutic CommunityTruly Effective
Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community. She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities. These have been in...
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Nujoji Calvocoressi and Sophie Crilly (Audio); Women Convicted of Murder: Insights from Prison Therapeutic Communities
In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in...
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Nujoji Calvocoressi and Sophie Crilly (Video); Women Convicted of Murder: Insights from Prison Therapeutic Communities
In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in...
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TC Elders (Audio); Connection and Memory: Inside the Therapeutic Community Elders Network
Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are…
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TC Elders (Video); Connection and Memory: Inside the Therapeutic Community Elders Network
Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are…
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Keith Hinchliffe (Audio); Grafton House, Breaking the Silence.
Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional…
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Keith Hinchliffe (Video); Grafton House, Breaking the Silence.
Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional…
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What types of organisation, institution and industries are performing work that tests human resilience and evokes powerful feelings of shame, sadness, fear and disgust? Does working with people who commit serious crimes like rape and murder affect the staff who work with them? How do you overcome adversity and protect yourself from burnout or compassion fatigue? Naomi Murphy and David Jones have decades of experience of working in prisons and other forensic settings. They host experts across a range of disciplines to discover what are some of the challenges that make a difference in fostering resilience and creativity in those who live and work in challenging organisations
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Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy
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