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Welcome to The Ruins, a podcast about the journey of faith, hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson.

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Episodes

  1. 55. Charlie Kirk, Fascist Theology, and the Gospel of MAGA

    In episode 55, we're unpacking the bizarre canonization of Charlie Kirk by conservative white evangelicals in the wake of his death, exposing how pastors and faith leaders have transformed a fascist, misogynist, and white supremacist into a supposed Christian martyr. SHOW NOTES THE Facebook…

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  2. 54. Family Expectations, Spiritual Gifts, and Being a "Christian" | with Jade Faletoi

    In episode 54 we are joined by Jade Faletoi and talking with her about what it means to identify as a Christian in 2024. We’ll also talk about Jade’s Samoan-American family legacy, her take on worship music, and what’s it like being a queer woman of color who works at a Christian university. SHOW...

  3. 53. Hermeneutics, PSA, and Theologizin' Bigger | with Trey Ferguson

    In episode 53, we are joined by pastor, author, podcast host, and public theologian, Trey Ferguson and talking with him about his new book Theologizin' Bigger. We’ll also talk about reading the Bible, the deconstruction movement, politics, God’s commitment to our wholeness, and why the middle...

  4. 52. A Pastoral Response to "Let Us Worship" Spokane

    In episode 52, I am going to be sharing a few pastoral thoughts on the recent happenings around the “Let Us Worship” event here in Spokane that featured white Christian Nationalist Sean Feucht, Spokane Mayor Nadine Woodward, Matt Shea, and others, and offer a few pastoral responses to what I...

  5. 51. Opposing Christo-Fascism In Christianity | with Dr. Joan Braune

    In episode 51, we are joined by scholar, writer, and Gonzaga University professor, Dr. Joan Braune and talking with her about empathy and fascism. We’ll talk about how we can organize and oppose fascism in our every day lives, and how people of faith can live with integrity in the face of the...

  6. 50. Voting, Elections, and Expanding Your Perspective | With Sarah Dixit

    In episode 50, we are joined by Sarah Dixit, and talking with her about voting. We’ll also talk about evangelicalism, Democrats, abortion access, moving away from our inherited beliefs, and how we can love our neighbors well by voting to create a world where we all can flourish. SHOW NOTES…

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  7. 49. Leaving Evangelicalism, Innovation From the Margins, And New Wine Collective | With Eugene Kim

    In episode 49, we are joined by my dear friend and mentor, Eugene Kim, and talking with him about the future of Christianity. We’ll talk about his journey of quitting pastoral ministry, common themes he sees in his conversations with people leaving with evangelicalism, and how New Wine Collective...

  8. 48. Being Divisive, The Toxic Third Way, and How Jesus Takes A Side | With Jonny Rashid

    In episode 48, we are joined by Jonny Rashid, and talking with him about his new book Jesus Takes A Side. We’ll also talk about the future of Christianity, Christian Nationalism, white supremacy, the harm of the third way, how much salt you need while cooking, and why bipartisanship in the church...

  9. 47. Liberation, A Burning Police Precinct, And Taking Back The Radical Jesus | With Damon Garcia

    In episode 47, we are joined by Damon Garcia, and talking with him about his new book The God Who Riots— Taking Back the Radical Jesus. We’ll also talk about liberation theology, capitalism in the church, abolition, forgiveness, marginalized communities, and how we can live into a better way...

  10. 46. White Homework, Neuroscience, and Why I Left Evangelicalism | With Tori Glass

    In episode 46, we are joined by Tori Glass and talking with her about leaving Evangelicalism. We're also neuroscience, white supremacy, capitalism, bad theology, Christian Nationalism, and why Republican politics is inseparable from white evangelicalism. Show Notes Tori's Twitter Tori's Instagram...

  11. Maverick City, Gospel Music, And Placating to White Audiences | With Kayla, Ariel, and Greg

    In episode 44, we are joined by Greg, Ariel, and Kayla and talking with them about Maverick City Music. We’ll also talk about gospel music, Black artists placating to white audiences, respectability politics, capitalism, intersectionality, the white gaze, and what we do moving forward for worship...

  12. Purity Culture, Abolition, And Restorative Relationships in Community | With Camille Hernandez

    In episode 43, we are joined by Camille Hernandez and talking with her about purity culture in the church. We're also talking about trauma, militarization, the consent of Jesus, violence, decolonization, and how we can move forward in the way of Jesus and see restoration and healing in our...

  13. Atonement Theories, Black Motherhood, and Jesus the Abolitionist | With Dr. Nikia Smith Robert

    In episode 42, we are joined by Dr. Nikia Smith Robert and talking with her about carceral logic and abolition. We’ll also talk about Womanist theology, her non-profit Abolition Sanctuary, Black motherhood, atonement theories, and the role that abolition has and will continue to play in the…

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  14. Please Stop Doing Mother's Day In Church | With Sena Hughes Lauer

    In (bonus!) episode 41 we are joined by Sena Hughes Lauer and talking with her about the harm of Mother's Day in the church. We'll also talk gender roles, God as Mother, and how we can create spaces where elevation women is an integral part of church life. Show Notes Sena's Instagram Nicole's...

  15. Calvinism, Traveling Choirs, and Let's Give A Damn! | With Nick Laparra

    In episode 40, we are joined by Nick Laparra, and talking with him about why and how he left evangelicalism. We’ll also talk about his podcast Let’s Give a Damn, Calvinist theology, smoking cigars, living in New York City, making people mad on social media, and what it looks like for us to be a...

  16. Abuelita Faith, Cognitive Justice, and Why We Need To Center Women of Color | With Kat Armas

    In episode 39 we are joined by the amazing Kat Armas and talking with her about the unnamed and overlooked theologians of our faith. We’ll also talk about her book Abuelita Faith, hermeneutics, women in the Scripture, growing up in conversation church spaces, and what it looks like for us to…

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  17. 3 Years Later: What I've Learned Since Getting Fired From Church

    In episode 38 we're talking spiritual abuse. It's been 3 years to the day since we were fired and excommunicated from our church in Vancouver, BC. Here are 5 lessons and a word of encouragement for anyone who's experienced spiritual abuse. If you don't have anyone to talk to about your…

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  18. Coming Out as Trans, Pastoral Ministry, And The Good Work of Co-Creation | With Rev. June Joplin

    In episode 37 we are joined by the amazing Rev. June Joplin and talking with her about gender binaries in the church. We’ll also talk about her journey of coming out, how patriarchy affects our our theology, how we can break down toxic and oppressive binaries, and how our trans/non-binary/gnc...

  19. The Whiteness of Deconstruction and Reclaiming Christianity On The Margins | With Rohadi

    In episode 36, we are joined by Rohadi, and talking with him about the whiteness of deconstruction. We’ll also talk about how his upcoming book When We Belong, pastoral ministry in Canada, and how we can move forward to reclaim Christianity on the Margins. Show Notes Rohadi Twitter Rohadi…

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  20. Reclaiming Our Theology from Systems and Structures That Oppress | With Brandi Miller

    In episode 35 we are joined by THE Brandi Miller and talking with her about white supremacy and spiritual formation. We’ll also talk about patriarchy, her podcast Reclaiming My Theology, and how we can create and form a community experience around faith deconstruction and reconstruction that…

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  21. Sex Positivity, Pleasure, and What Abstinence Only Sex Education Gets Wrong | With Julia Feldman

    In episode 34, we are joined by Julia Feldman-DeCoudreaux and talking with them about what it looks like to be embody sex positivity and have access to helpful sex education. We’ll also talk about human development, what abstinence only sex ed gets wrong, and how we can learn to have more...

  22. Patriarchy, Interfaith Marriage, and Women in Church Planting | with Donna Burkland

    In episode 33 we are joined by Donna Burkland, and talking with her about patriarchy and women in church planting. We’ll also talk about interfaith marriage, deconstruction, toxic theology, and how white faith leaders and can de-center themselves and help facilitate communities of liberation,...

  23. Why We Changed Our Name

    EPISODE 32 Today we are sharing a little update about why we decided to change the name of our podcast. We'll read the recent statement we shared and talk about why we chose the name "The Ruins." SHOW NOTES Live Your Theology Out Loud by Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney ABOUT Joseph and Nicole are living as...

  24. The Binary Breaking Transness of Jesus | with Avery Arden

    EPISODE 31 Today, we are joined by Avery Arden, and talking with them about Trans Christianity. We’ll also talk about their podcast Blessed Are The Binary Breakers, the transness of Jesus, and how we can learn to center the perspective and experience of our trans siblings and see heaven come to...

  25. The Decolonized Christian | with Greg Mason

    EPISODE 30 Today, I am joined by Greg Mason, and talking with him about how white supremacy shaped his view of God, faith, and theology. We’ll also talk about his podcast the Decolonized Christian podcast and how we can learn to do faith in a way that leads to the liberation of everyone. SHOW…

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  26. Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority | with Dr. Angela Parker

    EPISODE 29 Today, I am joined by Dr. Angela Parker, and talking with her about her new book, If God Still Breathes, Why Can’t I?: Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority. We’ll also talk womanist theology, hermeneutics, and how inerrancy is a tool of white supremacy and authoritarianism used to...

  27. Womanist Theology, MAGA Hermeneutics, and Centering Women in the Church | with Sharifa Stevens

    EPISODE 28 Today, I am joined by Sharifa Stevens, and talking with her about women in ministry, how we’ve mishandled Bible verses and used them to oppress women, and we as the church can reorient ourselves and learn to center women, specifically women of color, and build our theology from their...

  28. Shiphrah and Puah Are Subversive Badasses

    EPISODE 27 Today we’re talking about how two Egyptian Midwives that set the stage for one of the most important moments in the entire Bible. We'll talk about Shiphrah and Puah, civil disobedience, and how we can model their subversive rebellion against violence and empire. SHOW NOTES Kat Armas…

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  29. Why Mega-Church Evangelicalism Doesn't Work | with Nathanial Green

    EPISODE 26 We are joined by Nathaniel Green and having a conversation about his experience in and around mega-church evangelicalism. We’ll talk about the pitfalls of the mega-church, why people are leaving it, and what progressive Christianity has to offer us as we move into healthier and more...

  30. A Quick Podcast Update!

    EPISODE 25 Today, we're talking about a little shift happening on the Kings and Queens podcast! Tune in to hear more! ABOUT Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To support us financially or find more info about our story, visit...

  31. Toxic vs. Healthy Youth Ministry | with Irene Cho

    EPISODE 24 Today, we are joined by the amazing Irene Cho to talk about her experience in Youth Ministry and how we, as the church, can move out of spaces of toxic theology and abusive patterns of discipleship with our young people and move into liberating, inclusive, and empowering spaces of hope...

  32. Empathetic Accountability | with Kyle Cryan

    EPISODE 23 I am joined by my friend Kyle Cryan to talk about his experience in Bible college and the way he’s using his social media to give voice to those who’ve experienced harassment, discrimination, and abuse at Clarks Summit University. We’ll also talk about empathy and how film and art help...

  33. Our Story of Spiritual Abuse

    EPISODE 22 Nicole and I share our story of spiritual abuse in Vancouver, Canada. If you have or are going through abuse of any kind, specifically in the church, know that we love you, you are not alone, and there is hope. The journey towards healing can be daunting, but we would love to be a…

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  34. White Evangelicalism and A Coalition for Racial Justice in PDX | with Dr. Eva Oriakhi

    EPISODE 21 We are joined by an incredible friend, pharmacist, and low-key pastor, Dr. Eva Oriakhi, to talk about her experience in and around white evangelicalism, and how she helped lead a Coalition of Racial Justice in Portland, Oregon. We’ll also hear her thoughts on how we, as the church, can...

  35. XXX Church and Purity Culture | with PJ Gal-Szabo

    EPISODE 20 I had the opportunity to sit down with filmmaker, father-to-be, and former XXX Church employee, PJ Gal-Szabo, to have a conversation about the harmful and toxic narratives of purity culture. This was a really healing and restorative conversation for both of us and PJ has so much wisdom...

  36. Lil Nas X, Hell, and Homophobia | with Darren Calhoun

    EPISODE 19 I recently got the chance to sit down with the incredible Darren Calhoun to talk about the recent Montero (Call Me By Your Name) music video by Lil Nas X that is making white evangelicals SO MAD, and hear his thoughts on how the future of the church can be one of liberation, inclusion,...

  37. Where Does Your Support Money Go?

    In our 18th episode, we’re talking about a few of the non-profits and partnerships that we support and are involved with here in Spokane. Since we are bivocational (only work at a church part time), we raise support to supplement our income. We thought we'd give our listeners a little glimpse…

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  38. Grief and Joy | In Honor of Grandma Mavis

    In our 17th episode, we’re talking about grief in death, joy in celebration, and the importance of the work of racial justice. This episode was recorded in response to the recent passing of our Grammy Mavis. We love you, Grammy!! ABOUT Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and...

  39. Power, Privilege, and Toxic Theology

    In our 16th episode, we’re talking about how our power and privilege can often lead to toxic theology and bad Bible reading. We'll look at how Jesus leveraged his power and privilege for the inclusion, affirmation, freedom, healing, salvation, and liberation for the people who were most...

  40. 2021 Rule of Life

    In our 15th episode, we’re talking about our 2021 Rule of Life and answering the question “who am I becoming by what I am doing.” Our rule of life is a schedule and set of habits and relational rhythms that help us create space to be present to ourselves, God, and others, as we learn to abide in...

  41. White Church and Justice | Part 1

    EPISODE 14 In this episode, we’re starting a series of episodes centered around the topics of justice, white supremacy, white Evangelicalism, and how they all impact every area of our lives. We'll talk about what it's like to navigate these topics/conversations in majority white spaces and how we...

  42. Interview with Dr. Dwight

    EPISODE 13 In this episode, we’re excited to be joined by our dad/father-in-law Dr. Dwight Peterson, as we talk about spiritual formation and what it’s like to still be in ministry in your 60’s. We'll discuss the challenges of growing up in a white evangelical culture and how millennials and...

  43. Thin Spaces

    We’re talking about what we call “thin spaces.” These are times and places where Heaven and Earth seem uniquely close and God manifests Himself in a tangible and profound way. Nicole will share about her experience on Girl Trip where God met her in an incredible way. SHOW NOTES: Bible Project…

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  44. We're Moving!!!

    We are moving!! Goodbye Portland, hello... Washington?! In our 11th and final episode of Season 1, we’re going to give a little update on our life, talk about the next chapter in our ministry journey, and share how you can support us over the next few years! Visit www.thepetersons.cc for more…

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  45. Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Becoming

    We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an...

  46. Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Stuck

    We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an...

  47. Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Comparison

    We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an...

  48. Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: Why?!

    We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an...

  49. Naming and Praying Through Disappointment: God

    We are taking a short break from our regular episodes and we're doing a mini series talking about Naming and Praying through Disappointment. In these 5 episodes, our goal is not to “free” ourselves from disappointment, but rather to learn how to process our disappointment before God in an...

  50. Can Parents and Children Sabbath?

    In our fifth episode, we’re going to talk about how we Sabbath as a family. We’ll share our journey of Sabbath, talk about how to rest with young children, and offer some insight into starting your own Sabbath journey.

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