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The Tabernacle Podcast
by The Tabernacle
The Tabernacle podcast exists to inform and equip followers of Jesus to keep in the fight. Through scripture, stories, and some below average jokes our hosts John Vermilya and Britton Bishop do their best to help the Church continue in the mission to Love God. Love People. and Make Disciples.
Episodes
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237. Prayer Derailers | With Adam & Chris
This episode is a discussion with John, Adam Ray, and Kris Johns about distractions and obstructions to our everyday prayer lives. They talk about things that prevent us from ongoing communication with our loving God, and how to overcome it. Warning: if grown men getting emotional is…
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236. Hell Is For Real | With Adam & Dan
John is joined by fellow Bible-nerds, Adam Sharp & Dan Hyde, to talk about Hell, judgment, and the character of God. They explore the Bible’s description of Hell, who faces judgment and who doesn’t, and common misconceptions about Hell. They also discuss how our responses to Hell often reveal our...
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235. The Christian Ghetto | With Tim And Adam
John is joined by fellow pastor's kids, Tim Burgess and Adam Ray to talk about growing up in the so-called Christian ghetto. They share stories of growing up in the most "Christian environment" possible, where the danger is to somehow make faith performance-based. They also talk about what true...
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234. Steadfast God | With Mike Anderson
John and Martin host Mike Anderson to hear his changed life story. Mike talks about growing up in a rough area of Detroit, childhood fears and faith, his large Catholic family, and the loss of his father. He talks about denouncing God at one point in his teens, spiraling into darkness, and how…
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233. Book of John | With Tim & John
John and Tim sit down to talk about the Gospel of John series. They talk about what makes the fourth Gospel unique from the synoptic Gospels, and how it is more focused on who Jesus is and less about what He did. They preview some of the highlights, themes, John's purpose, and what believing that...
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232. Why Youth Group?
Martin Rizzi and our new TAByouth pastors Blake Simons, Dan Hyde, and Cai Johns sit down to discuss why youth ministry is vital to the life of the church. Listen as they share what TAByouth will look like under the new guard and also what has most impacted their ministry philosophy. To learn more...
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231. In Polite Company | With Beau Vore
John sits down with Beau Vore to hear about his radio show and how God is using it to point people to Jesus. They talk about sticky issues like AI, aliens, even Melchizedek, and try to help engage people with God's Word. Beau does not hold back in how he believes every Christian can similarly be…
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230. Changed Life Story | Blake Simons
John and Adam Sharp sit down with Blake Simons, our Manistee Youth Pastor, to hear his changed life story. Blake shares how growing up in a Christian home led him to faith, but also how he learned early on to live a double life. Through those struggles and the twists and turns of his vocational...
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229. Faith Like A Child | With Tim, Adam, and Kris
John is joined by pastors Tim Burgess, Adam Ray, and Kris Johns, to talk about the concept of having childlike faith. Jesus said that, in order to enter the Kingdom, one must become like children in our faith. In this podcast, they break down what that kind of faith is and what it is not, with…
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228. The Good Work | With Rachel, Haley & Norah
John's guests are Rachel Vore, Haley Kroupa, and Norah Kuhn, who break down what God did through the 2026 TABwomen's retreat. They talk about how God worked their retreat theme 'The Good Work' throughout their planning, execution, through the speaker, and even in their own lives in a podcast that...
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227. One Prayer Away | With Terry Umlor
John V and John W sit down with Terry Umlor to hear his changed life story. Terry shares about his growing up years in a rough home situation, and how one prayer altered the direction of his life from hopelessness to a life led by the Holy Spirit. Terry shares about how God has used his time in…
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226. Saved Now Sent | With Tim and Adam
John is joined by Tim Burgess and Adam Ray to discuss how Christians are saved by God and then sent out to serve Him. They talk about how many Christians get stuck between the saved and sent part, and miss a vital part of growth by not giving God their 'yes.' They dig into Ephesians 2 & 4, and...
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225. Changed Life | With David Hoeflinger
John and Tim are joined by David Hoeflinger to hear his changed life story. David and his wife Lindsay have served on staff at the Tabernacle for almost eight years, helping to plant the Manistee campus. David talks about his upbringing in a Christian home and how his gifts in music and media…
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224. Miles Apart, Mission Aligned | With Noah & Hannah Dudley
Today, Martin is joined by Noah and Hannah Dudley as they share the God moments that brought them together and the faith that’s held them firm. Through hardship, heartbreak, and seasons of separation, their trust in God and commitment to His mission have never wavered. Their story is one of...
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223. In The Dumps | With Adam, Adam, and Martin
John is joined by pastors Adam Ray, Martin Rizzi, and Adam Sharp to talk about anxiety, depression, and spiritual apathy. They all share about times when they have experienced this, and practical steps to get out of these cycles. They talk about the importance of believing the Truth, the…
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222. Digital Distance | With Braydon & Gabby
John sits down with Braydon and Gabby Cromwell to explore the growing crisis of loneliness in our hyper-connected world. They discuss why more people are living in isolation despite constant digital connection, why that matters, and how choosing real, Christ-centered community opens the door for...
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221. Eternity In Our Hearts | With Jonathon Sherwin
John and Adam Ray sit down with our Sportsman's Banquet speaker, Jonathon Sherwin, to break down the deep wisdom of Ecclesiastes chapter 3. They talk about how the beauty of creation points us to the Creator and His divine nature, and of course there are some hunting and fishing stories along the...
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220. There Was Jesus Part 2 | With Heidi Burgess
John and Rachel Vore are joined by Heidi Burgess to hear the second part of her changed life story. They talk about her journey into marriage, sobriety, through Al-Anon, freedom from bulimia, hard seasons in parenting, and how they got to the Tabernacle. Heidi's story is a powerful testimony of…
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219. There Was Jesus Part 1 | With Heidi Burgess
John and Rachel Vore are joined by Heidi Burgess to hear her changed life story. From her early roots in Iowa to encountering Jesus in middle school, Heidi tells of how she then ran from God in her 20's in an effort to fit in. Heidi pulls no punches in sharing the depths of being far from God…
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218. Trauma Redeemed | With Tim and Martin
John is joined by pastors Tim and Martin to talk about trauma, both what it is and how it affects people. They dig deeper in how Christians can choose to respond to trauma and how God and His church can be agents of healing, in order to have the abundant life that Christ promised. To learn more...
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217. You Can Change | With Dave Carlson
John and Adam have a great conversation with Dave Carlson about how you can change with God's help. They talk about the work of the Holy Spirit when we sit in rows on a weekend, and also when we sit in the circles of a small group. Specifically, they dig into what happens when the change occurs…
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216. Responding To The Headlines | With Tim & Martin.mp4
John is joined by Tim Burgess and Martin Rizzi to talk about how Christians should respond to the chaos of current events. From ICE protests, to partisan fights in Congress, Epstein list, and even the Super Bowl halftime show, they offer Biblical insights on how to live as the calm and peaceful...
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215. Fortifying Your Marriage | With Tim & Adam
John is joined by Tim Burgess and Adam Ray to recap the recent Fortify marriage event. They review the highlights of each session, share more insights on how we can glorify God in our marriages, and answer some of the questions we didn't get to during the event. To learn more about the Tabernacle...
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214. The Next Yes | With Tracy Romzek & Haley Kroupa
Martin is joined by two generations of Tabernacle Women whose stories speak to the blessing of open handed faith. Tracy Romzek and Haley Kroupa walk through Tracy’s stories of struggle and redemption. As Tracy continues to seek God’s will, she shares the story behind her next “yes,” making for a...
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213. God's Thumb In Your Back | With Keith & Rhoda Ackerman
John is joined by Keith & Rhoda Ackerman, part of the Tabernacle family and missionaries to Pakistan. They share how they came to faith, were called to missions, and some hair-raising stories of adventures first in Honduras and for the past fifteen years serving the Christian Hospital Sahiwal. To...
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212. Ego Is The Enemy | With John & Adam Ray
John and Adam Ray kick off 2026 with a discussion about Biblical leadership. They share principles and lessons learned from Scripture and experience that apply to ministry, business, parenting, athletics, and life. They talk about servant-leadership, sharing responsibility, giving credit to the...
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211. Where Justice Meets Grace | Christ On The Police Force
Martin sits down with officer Matt Clark of the MIchigan State Police and Caleb Andrist formerly of the Nashville PD to discuss what it is like to be a Christian in law enforcement. Both men share profound stories about the impact of Christ in their profession while Martin confesses the bias he...
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210. Changed Lives | With Cole & Lynn Bringold
John sits down with Cole and Lynn as they tell their changed lives stories of how they came to Christ, how they met one another, and about the life they are building now. They share a powerful lesson on 'recreational companionship' and how that has resulted in epic Alaskan trips, chasing moose…
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209. Fact-Checking Acts Part 2 | With John & Martin
John and Martin continue the discussion on difficult passages and questions that arise from the Book of Acts, such as whether repentance is a gift of God or an act of man, can Christians get blood transfusions, and why Paul quoted pagan poets. We also find out why John refers to our executive...
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208. Small Hearts, Big Gospel | With Isabel, Haley, & Josh
John is joined by Isabel Crawford, Haley Kroupa, and Josh Sprunger to talk about children's ministry at the Tabernacle. They talk about the theology and the mission, and their motivation to serve children, teaching them the Gospel. They also share how children at the Tabernacle are taught the…
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207. Tabernacle Legend | Grant Sheets
John and Martin are joined by Grant Sheets, a long time member of the Tabernacle family who has impacted so many lives. Grant shares how he came to faith, and how he and his wife were "all in" from the beginning. Grant talks about God's faithfulness, miracles witnessed, and stories of living a...
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206. Fact-Checking Acts Part 1 | With Adam & Martin
John is joined by Adam Ray and Martin Rizzi to talk about difficult passages or questions that arise from the Book of Acts. Questions like whether or not David went to heaven, was the early church communist, and is baptism required for salvation. They also talk about the exclusive claim that…
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205. Margins | With Victoria & Rachel
John is joined by Victoria Hughes and Rachel Vore to talk about the importance of margins in our busy lives. This is a follow-on to Victoria's powerful teaching at the Women of Valor night, where she shared how God has been working this into her heart. They talk about balancing rest and business,...
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204. Dominated By The Spirit
John is joined by pastors Adam, Martin, and Braydon to discuss what it means to be filled with the Holy Spirit daily. They talk about what the Spirit's role is in the Trinity, and what Scripture says about walking according to the Spirit. They each share real life examples of what keeping in step...
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203. Never Enough | With Cassie Rizzi
In today’s podcast, Martin and Rachel are joined by Cassie Rizzi. Cassie shares her changed life story, sharing how she has lived much of her life in two worlds, never feeling like she was enough for either. By God’s grace she found freedom knowing that He meets us right where we are, even in a...
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202. Martyred For The Faith | Charlie Kirk
John and Adam are joined by Braydon and Gabby Cromwell to respond to the Charlie Kirk assassination. They break down who Kirk was, his faith, his massive influence on Gen Z, and the impact of his brutal death. They also talk about the response of Christians worldwide, and how Kirk's murder should...
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201. Sacred Playgrounds | With Ben Rudolph
John and Martin are joined by the new director of Lake Ann Camp, Pastor Ben Rudolph. Ben brings over 25 years of ministry to the conversation, as a youth pastor, church planter and in counseling. In this conversation, he shares some of his changed life story and how it intersects with the power…
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200. Living In Your True Identity | With Kelly Findley
Our guest is Kelly Findley, ex-professional soccer player, now head coach at Liberty University who also leads Coaches on Mission. Kelly is a husband, father, and brilliant leader who is committed to Christ. He discusses with John living in your true identity in Christ rather than a false…
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199. Alaska | The Final Frontier
John sits down again with Adam Ray and Adam Sharp to hear about their recent ministry scouting mission to Alaska. They share about the challenges that pastors and churches in Alaska are facing and how the Tabernacle can come alongside them, Adam Sharp shares his first impressions of the raw…
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198. Nephilim & the Book of Enoch
John and Martin dive into these hot topics that are flooding social media feeds, YouTube and streaming documentaries. They provide Christians that are serious about following Jesus and trusting their Bible a Gospel-centered, biblical response to these fringe discussions and conspiracy theories....
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197. Dependent | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 2
John sits down again with Braydon & Gabby to hear part two of their inspiring story. They talk about the injuries that ended both of their athletic careers, the birth of their daughter Harper while in college and learning that she is blind in one eye, and they share deep lessons learned about...
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196. Take Action - Don't Walk In Darkness Alone
Born from grief and driven by purpose, this podcast supports those battling suicidal thoughts, mental health challenges, and the loved ones who walk beside them. Inspired by the Ruck March a journey of remembrance, resilience, and hope we explore the stories behind every mile. Because every step...
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195. Gossiping the Gospel | With Gary Gilmore
John and Adam are joined by Gary Gilmore to talk about the importance of ordinary, unnamed, and uncelebrated believers sharing the Gospel in everyday life. Gary served at the 2024 Lausanne Congress on evangelism and shares lessons learned while providing security for the Chinese house church...
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194. Calling | With Brayden & Gabby Cromwell Part 1
John is joined by Brayden and Gabby Cromwell as they share their changed life stories. Originally from a farm in Montana, Brayden joined the Tabernacle staff to work with youth and young adults. He and Gabby talk about their athletic careers through high school and college, how Christ changed…
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193. Follow | With Jim & Jeanette Vermilya
John is joined by his parents to talk about their 60-year ministry journey of following Jesus to the mission fields of Jamaica and Haiti, pastoring local churches, hospitality and beyond. These ministry legends share some of the adventure and lessons learned from being all-in for Jesus, and...
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192. Unplanned Pregnancies | With Avery McCutcheon
John and Martin are joined by Avery McCutcheon, Executive Director of Thrive Medical Clinic. She shares how the Thrive ministry serves people who are vulnerable to abortion with love, support, and resources. Learn more about Thrive at thrivemedicalclinic.org, and to support them financially at...
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191. Sounds Like Him | With Lori Krueger
John is joined by Lori Krueger, a pro soccer chaplain and executive coach, who shares her changed life story. Originally from a small town in Canada, Lori traces how a lifetime of saying "yes" to Jesus gave her ministry platforms in the church, pro soccer, and eventually the USA women's national...
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190. There's Something Different Here | With Rachel Ray & Rachel Vore
On this episode of the podcast, we sit down with Rachels Vore and Ray to unpack why not all retreats are created equal. From hilariously awkward invitations to eye-opening conversations about rest, renewal, and relationships, we explore what really happens when women get outside of the routine…
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189. Anchorpoint | With Josh & Laura Boulis
John is joined by Josh and Laura Boulis as they share their changed life stories. They talk about pain and disappointment in previous ministry experiences, how God brought them to the Tabernacle staff and how staying grounded with Christ as their foundation allowed them to keep saying 'yes' to...
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188. Revolution | Acts Series Overview
John is joined by Adam Ray and Kris Johns to talk about our next sermon series which covers the Book of Acts. The discussion ranges from the book's author, to our favorite stories and passages, the dramatic spread of the Gospel, and how it all applies to our lives today. To join the uprising, or...
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The Tabernacle podcast exists to inform and equip followers of Jesus to keep in the fight. Through scripture, stories, and some below average jokes our hosts John Vermilya and Britton Bishop do their best to help the Church continue in the mission to Love God. Love People. and Make Disciples.
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The Tabernacle podcast exists to inform and equip followers of Jesus to keep in the fight. Through scripture, stories, and some below average jokes our hosts John Vermilya and Britton Bishop do their best to help the Church continue in the mission to Love God. Love People. and Make Disciples.
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