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The Vocal Lab Collective

The Vocal Lab Collective is dedicated to elevating the music industry by empowering and developing top-tier artists and industry professionals with first-class conversations, cutting-edge techniques, and transformative insights into music, leadership, and personal growth.To inspire and empower the elite 10% of the music industry through mentorship, collaboration, and innovation, fostering a community where high achievers can thrive, innovate, and lead the next wave of musical excellence.This podcast is for those who are ready to work - to really work - and elevate their music career to the next level. Get ready to find your voice, love your craft, and unlock your true potential.

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    Country too with Brian Fuller!

    This week we are joined by independent country artist, singer-songwriter, Brian Fuller. From his early days in Savannah, Georgia riding trains with his grandpa, to the pivotal moment that changed his life when he first moved to Nashville, Brian shares his unique story of how success is more than what you can accomplish for yourself.

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    She's not messy she's just numb! Big Soph is back!

    This week Jason and Shelby are joined yet again by Sophie Steele, AKA "Big Soph" come back to update us on all that's happened since her last visit- a trip to Spain that was ruined by a mysterious sickness, career challenges that have led to new changes, and how to fix problems in a convoluted industry.

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    Data never lies with Grant Owen!

    In this week's conversation we are joined by Grant Owen, COO and President of Jefferson Fisher media as well as the Grant Owen Podcast, where he shares what is absolutely necessary to have an impact on social media and what undeniable data points drive that. Is it sheer luck or is there a secret, but unbelievably simple formula?

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    Tour training and prep!

    This week, Shelby shares what it's like to prepare for a tour as she peels back the curtain on what it was like to help a Celebrity artist ready herself as an Elite athlete for her upcoming summer tour.

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    Summer tours... yea or nay?!

    If you had unlimited money for the summer... how many concerts would you go to? This week, the Vocal Lab goes through the slate for summer tours and decides whether it's a yes? Or No? On all these summer concerts and whether they're worth the money!

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    Hunter Jordan!

    This week we are joined by Season 29's one and only Hunter Jordan. From his early beginnings picking up the guitar at age 6 to performing 300 gigs a year to being Adam Levine's first country artist on The Voice; Hunter tells all on his experience on The Voice, and what is next for his journey. Join us to find out!

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    100 Episodes!!!

    We made it to 100 episodes!!! This week we celebrate 100 episodes of the vocal lab podcast! We reminisce of some of our favorite moments and also dream towards the next 100 episodes! Thank you for all your support!

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    Will AI Replace Vocal Coaches?! (AI Part 2)

    Will Ai replace us? The team at the Vocal Lab open up again this can of worms. Is AI getting too good? Can it analyze voices or is it just a positive feedback loop that could lead a singer to damage their voices? Is a human touch invaluable? Find out!

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    Shelby as a mom, teenage trends and favorite songs with Isla Rollins!

    This week we are joined by a very special guest on the Vocal Lab Podcast: Shelby's daughter, Isla! What's it like having Shelby as a mom and vocal coach, trends for teens in 2026, favorite music and what happens when all the kids drive Shelby up a wall!

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    Caviar and nuggets! This is Coachella Part 2!

    On this week, Jason and Shelby return to Coachella. From $3,000 resale tickets, $17 dollar coffees, to Caviar and nuggets, the gang discusses the cultural phenomenon that it has become. All of this culminating at one of the most polarizing performances of the night: Justin Bieber. Was it a lazy attempt at a performance or genius in disguise. Tune in to find out!

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    Back to the Yellow brick road with Allie Trimm!

    This week Jason and Shelby continue to "collect" the Glindas! Allie Trimm; the most recent incarnation of Wicked's Glinda joins the Vocal Lab studio during a short stop in Nashville. She shares of her early start in 13: The Musical, her catapult into early adulthood as a teen in the Big Apple, all the way to finding success as one of Broadways great voices. Tune in to find out what her next steps are: more music or is she leaving the profession altogether?!

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    Wax on, wax off... but Music?

    In this weeks episode of the Vocal Lab Podcast we talk... music... and feelings... When's the last time that music moved you so deeply you cried? Is it Shelby's "thumpers" playlist or Jason's love for Bad Bunny? Tune in to find out why waxing eloquent about music is both a noun and a verb!

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    Shelby breaks her silence on American Idol!!!

    This week co-host Shelby Rollins from Master Vocal Studios peels back the curtain and gives us an exclusive exposé at what it's like being a vocal coach for American Idol. Is it real? Fake? Tune in to hear what actually happened and how a rogue boom mic could've gotten her fired.

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    Dad got bars!

    This week's episode features Bret Green, AKA Dad Got Bars. From his early days in his high school cafeteria making beats on a table, to being nominated for an Emmy for his work in "The Inspectors," Bret has found a way to connect his passion for storytelling and music as a rapper to be a an honest voice sharing the real experiences women face in their everyday lives.

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    Did Timothée Chalamet Kill Opera? | The Vocal Lab Podcast EP. 92

    In this episode of The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby dive into the storm surrounding Timothée Chalamet’s recent town hall with Matthew McConaughey. Did the Marty Supreme star cross the line when he claimed "no one cares" about opera and ballet anymore, or was he just voicing a harsh reality about the struggle for cultural relevance? We’re breaking down whether this was a case of Hollywood "punching down" on vulnerable art forms—currently battling funding cuts and the rise of AI—or if the backlash is just a symptom of an industry in denial. From Misty Copeland’s pointed response to the "14 cents in viewership" joke that might have cost him an Oscar, we’re asking: is it time to stop treating these legacy arts like museum pieces and start fighting for their future?

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    Field of dreams with Derrick Sutherland! (RE-Release)

    We’re bringing this fan-favorite back to the front of the feed! In this special RE-RELEASE of The Vocal Lab Podcast, hosts Shelby Rollins and Jason Catron sit down with hit songwriter Derrick Southerland to celebrate their milestone 50th episode. From his humble beginnings "scrubbing toilets" as a studio intern to opening the door for legends like John Legend and Ryan Tedder while working as a server, Derrick’s story is a masterclass in persistence. Tune in as he shares what it was like to pass on an idea from Vince Gill, the hilarious moment he tried to "take Nelly's strawberries," and how he learned to find true success in the creative process rather than just the chart-topping hits.

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    Getting old!

    In this episode of The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby tackle the inevitable—the aging voice. They break down the science of how your instrument changes over time and share must-know longevity tips for young artists who think they’re invincible. But the real star of the show is a piece of "transcendent" wisdom from producer Carlos, who graced the booth with the accidental comedy gold: "When you are young... you have youth." Tune in for the vocal science, but stay for the relentless teasing as Jason and Shelby try to uncover the hidden depths of the most obvious statement ever made in a recording studio.

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    Designing for Coldplay, Rihanna & The Weeknd: Sooner Routhier

    In this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason and Shelby are joined by Nashville’s own Sooner Routhier, a visionary production and lighting designer whose work has defined the visual identity of modern live music. As the CEO of The Playground, Sooner has earned prestigious accolades including multiple Parnelli Awards and the Live Design Achievement Award. She is the creative force behind some of the highest-grossing tours in history, notably serving as the lighting designer for Coldplay’s record-breaking Music of the Spheres World Tour and the co-production designer for The Lumineers' 2025 Automatic World Tour. Her portfolio spans genres and generations, from the theatrical world of the Game of Thrones Live Concert Experience to stadium shows for The Weeknd, Rihanna, and Chris Stapleton. Beyond her technical mastery, Sooner is a champion for industry evolution as the co-founder of EVEN, an organization dedicated to fostering diversity and mentorship within the live events community.

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    Rhinesone Rock with Jenny Teator!

    Get ready for a masterclass in independent artistry! This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by the powerhouse herself, Jenny Teator.Known for her soulful, "St. Louis-meets-Nashville" sound, Jenny dives deep into the creative journey behind her latest album release. But the conversation doesn’t stop at the studio—we’re exploring how her viral hit, "Rhinestone Rock,"became a certified elite line dance sensation, taking over dance floors across the country.

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    Ice Storms & Ego Trips: From Frozen Nashville to the Grammy Fallout

    From surviving the freeze to the fallout of "Music’s Biggest Night," this week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are diving deep into a Nashville ice storm that changed everything. While Shelby took advantage of the power outage to crush six books in a single week, Jason was busy hunkering down at a friend’s house, watching the city turn into a literal ice rink.But the real storm? It was brewing at the 2026 Grammys. The duo breaks down:Billie Eilish’s polarizing "F*** ICE" acceptance speech that has the internet on fire.Trevor Noah’s final stint as host—was the comedy actually "funny" or just safe?Nicki Minaj’s digital "unleashing" as she took to social media to drop bombshell allegations and conspiracy theories while the show aired.From the nature of award shows in a hyper-political era to the resilience of the Nashville music scene, Jason and Shelby aren't holding anything back.

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    Your melody lines are not for sale! | Rita Springer

    In this soul-stirring episode of The Vocal Lab, hosts Jason Catron and Shelby Rollins sit down with the legendary Rita Springer. A pioneer in Christian music, Rita opens up about her humble beginnings and the unwavering conviction to keep her craft "not for sale." She dives deep into the delicate tension between navigating a professional music career and the visceral longing to see God’s power manifest in the lives of her listeners. It’s an honest, powerful conversation for any artist seeking to balance technical excellence with a pure, uncompromised heart.

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    Red Flags: 5 Questions to Ask Before Hiring Any Vocal Coach (Insider Advice)

    Is your vocal coach a mentor or just a fan? Choosing a vocal coach is one of the biggest investments you’ll make in your career, yet most singers go in blind. This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby pull back the curtain on the hiring process. They’re sharing the exact 5-question litmus test you should use to separate the world-class mentors from the weekend hobbyists.

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    Breaking through yourself with Tera Lynne!

    Tera Lynne joins The Vocal Lab Podcast to share her raw and honest journey as an artist navigating the path to self-discovery. In this episode, she discusses the internal work required to break through personal barriers and how her creative process serves as a tool for authentic expression. By exploring the intersection of her artistry and her voice, Tera offers a powerful look at what it truly means to show up as yourself in your music, shedding the weight of expectation to find a sound that is uniquely her own.

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    Happy New Year!

    Ring in the New Year with The Vocal Lab Podcast as Jason and Shelby recap their NYE adventures, set bold goals, and dream up what’s next. From big aspirations to unexpected hobbies, anything’s possible in 2026. But the real question is—will Shelby take up pickleball, and is Jason actually fencing?

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    Clients... Yay or nay?

    The Vocal Lab Podcast pulls back the curtain on life as a vocal coach. Jason, Shelby, and Carlos get real about the intangibles, the instincts, psychology, and emotional work that never make it into a lesson plan, along with the quirks, habits, and surprises that come with coaching real clients. Honest, funny, and deeply relatable, it’s a candid look at the voices behind the voices.

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    Christmas poop log?

    This week on The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason and Shelby trade vocal warm-ups for wild holiday facts as they dive into the strangest Christmas traditions around the world. 🎄From Austria’s horned nightmare Krampus, to Spain’s infamous poop log, and other festive customs that make caroling seem tame nothing is off-limits.It’s funny, slightly unhinged, and the perfect reminder that Christmas gets weird everywhere. Tune in and laugh along.

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    Tinsel Trouble with Melinda Doolittle!

    This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by the always-inspiring Melinda Doolittle. She chats about her early start singing BGVs for CeCe Winans, reflects on her unforgettable American Idol journey, and shares the excitement behind her newest project—her debut novel, Tinsel Trouble.It’s a joyful, uplifting conversation with plenty of heart. Tune in!

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    Late thanksgiving!

    On this Thanksgiving episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos gather around the mics to reflect on the year, share what they’re most thankful for, and look ahead with hope and excitement. And yes, Carlos is extra thankful this week after accidentally uploading the wrong episode last time (we forgive him… mostly).From personal milestones to musical breakthroughs, they open up about the moments that shaped them and the dreams they’re carrying into the future. Pull up a chair, grab a slice of pie, and join the conversation. It’s a warm, honest, and very on brand holiday hang.

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    Grow from introspection with Sophie Steele!

    On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason and Shelby are joined by the hilarious and brilliant Sophie Steele (@iambigsoph), someone who loves people deeply and loves making the numbers work for them.They dive into who you are at your core, the power of genuine human connection, and why Sophie believes work and play should be woven together instead of kept apart. Her quick wit keeps the whole episode electric, and Jason and Shelby couldn’t stop laughing as she brought her humor and heart to every moment.A fun, honest, and energizing conversation you won’t want to miss.

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    The 5 whys with Ben Rodgers!

    This week on The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason and Shelby sit down with Ben Rodgers of Pivotol for a conversation that blends identity, creativity, and the unexpected.From the shrimp boat–style lunch where Ben and Jason first connected to the deeper questions behind the real X-factor—do we truly know ourselves?—Ben explores why the Relational Economy may matter more than talent alone.You’ll hear why choosing your “spot” is everything, how one decision can redirect a life, and why what’s meant for you somehow finds its way.Plus, get a first look at the new At Depth podcast launching January 1st.Over an hour of insight, stories, and reflection—don’t miss it.

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    From Billy B to Dolly Parton, the art of painting faces with Charlie Boehm

    This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Nashville-based makeup artist and creative force Charlie Boehm. Charlie shares how his journey surprisingly began in music, a path that shaped his eye for performance, presence, and storytelling long before he ever held a makeup brush.He opens up about the pivotal moment when legendary artist Billy B stepped into his life and shifted everything, offering the inspiration and direction that helped Charlie step fully into his artistry.From those early sparks to the surreal experience of working with Dolly Parton, Charlie talks about what it is like to be trusted with iconic faces, the pressure, the joy, and the unexpected lessons learned along the way.It is an episode filled with creativity, mentorship, and the magic that happens when someone finally steps into who they were meant to be.

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    Jason meets John Tesh!!!

    his week, Jason and Shelby drop in for a quick checkup episode! Jason shares how watching the new Luther Vandross documentary sent him down a soulful rabbit hole — and somehow led to a real-life run-in with John Tesh. Hear how that unexpected meeting went, plus a little catch-up between the hosts you know and love.It’s light, fun, and full of those “only on The Vocal Lab” moments. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Taylor Swift slid into Shelby's DMs and Southwest ruins our lives!

    The Vocal Lab Podcast — This week, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos get a little salty about Southwest’s so-called “customer experience upgrades.” From luggage limits to seat shuffles, we’re not exactly buying the “friendly skies” vibe. Then we lighten it up (kind of) with Taylor and Travis’s engagement — and how Taylor’s once again proving she’s running the entire pop culture universe.A little sass, a little shade, and a lot of laughs — only on The Vocal Lab Podcast.

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    Take it from the top with Michelle Garramone!

    This week, Jason and Shelby sit down with Michelle Garramone, classically trained vocalist turned artist development strategist, label founder, and mindset coach. Michelle shares her journey from performance to the business side—how she balanced artistry and strategy, building Mishi Records to empower indie artists with release planning, wellness, and sustainable growth. Whether you’ve got an album ready to drop or you’re pushing through creative blocks, this conversation is packed with tools, inspiration, and hard-won wisdom for every kind of artist.

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    From physics to country music with Holdyn Barder

    This week, Jason and Shelby welcome rising country artist Holdyn Barder—the Newtown, PA native whose Eagles anthem “Go Birds” went viral and put Philly pride on the country map. Holdyn shares his journey from physics major to Nashville stages, opening for superstars like Luke Bryan and Darius Rucker, and the heart behind his upcoming debut album. Tune in for stories of hustle, hometown roots, and the voice carrying Philly country into the spotlight.

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    If you can breathe, you can dance! Charity Baroni

    This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Charity Baroni, a seasoned performer and movement coach whose career has spanned the worlds of music videos, live tours, and artist development. From dancing with Taylor Swift and Beyoncé to empowering artists through movement coaching, Charity shares her journey and insights into the transformative power of performance. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on artistry, confidence, and the heart behind the movement.

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    AI's newest star, KION! Is this for real?

    🎙️ The Vocal Lab PodcastThis week, Jason, Shelby, and even Carlos dive into one of the biggest headlines in music: Higgsfield Records has officially signed its first AI artist, KION. What does this mean for singers, songwriters, and the industry at large? Is AI a threat, a tool, or the future of collaboration? We unpack the possibilities, the risks, and where human artistry still shines brightest.

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    What happened to Adam Levine's voice???

    Adam Levine’s new album Love Is Like has fans talking — his voice sounds noticeably different. In this episode, Jason and Shelby unpack why singers choose to change their voices, whether it’s a natural evolution or a risky experiment, and what it means for both artistry and audience expectations. Is changing your sound a smart move, or can it cost you your identity as a singer?

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    Traveling to OZ with Wicked's Glinda Allison Bailey!

    This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Broadway’s own Allison Bailey, best known for her sparkling turn as Glinda in Wicked. She shares her journey from Florida stages to national tours, life on Broadway, and what it takes to bring such an iconic role to life night after night. Plus—her newest projects beyond Oz. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation with one of musical theatre’s brightest voices!

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    First 48! Pavarotti, Italian mud baths, and more!

    On this episode of The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos dive into Pavarotti’s famous claim that singers need 48 hours to recover after a performance. Was he exaggerating, or is there real science behind the millions of vocal fold collisions in a two-hour show? Join us as we explore the artistry, physiology, and recovery rituals that shape a singer’s first 48.

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    Blake Proehl! Football, nana & 67...

    This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Blake Proehl—former Minnesota Viking, American Idol contestant, and breakout singer-songwriter. We dive into the heartwarming story of how a song for his nana went viral, the unexpected journey from football fields to recording studios, and his brand-new release Miss Carolina. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation that proves sometimes the biggest wins happen off the field.

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    Shaboozey breaks the record while we eat cupcakes!

    On this episode of The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby dig into Shaboozey’s historic feat—'A Bar Song (Tipsy)' just hit 27 weeks at No. 1 on Billboard’s Radio Songs chart, breaking the all-time record previously held by The Weeknd’s Blinding Lights. What does a run like that say about the state of radio, genre-bending hits, and the future of chart dominance? We’ll talk impact, influence, and of course, enjoy a flight of cupcakes while we celebrate.

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    Bringing back the heartbeat to Country Music with Conor Clemmons!

    This week, Jason and Shelby welcome Nashville country artist Conor Clemmons to the studio! From his Carolina roots to climbing the iTunes Country charts with his debut EP Left of Center, Conor has been carving out a sound full of heart, energy, and real storytelling. He’s opened for artists like Hunter Hayes, Gavin DeGraw, and Parmalee, and his latest singles—Good Ones, It Chose Me, and the reflective Growin’ To Do—showcase both his powerhouse vocals and his honest perspective on life. Plus, he’s fresh off the release of his summer anthem Double Standard.Join us as Conor shares the journey behind his music, the lessons that keep him grounded, and maybe even a little sneak peek at what’s next.

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    Shelby almost quits over ASMR!!!

    Jason and Shelby are kicking off a new chapter — a fresh studio, a fresh vibe, and... some very questionable ASMR experiments.Is it soothing? Is it terrifying? Or is it both?Join us as we celebrate new beginnings, spill behind-the-scenes stories, and tiptoe into the whispery world of audio that might just give you chills — for better or worse.

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    Garrett Adair!

    Jason and Shelby sit down with rising Nashville artist Garrett Adair, whose journey from college entrepreneur to viral singer-songwriter is anything but ordinary. Garrett opens up about his early love for music, the unexpected start of a gummy vitamin business in college, and how the pandemic reignited his passion for songwriting and performing. Now touring with artists like Jamie Miller and Mat Kearney, Garrett shares what it takes to chase your sound, stay grounded, and keep creating—even when the path looks nothing like you planned.

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    Celebrity Meals!!!

    Join your hosts Jason and Shelby as they dish out the weirdest, wildest, and most deliciously dramatic meals from music legends. From Elvis’s peanut butter bacon bonanza to Taylor Swift’s cottagecore chicken tender and cinnamon rolls—it's music, munchies, and mayhem.Because behind every icon... is a very questionable snack. 😏🎶

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    Micah Otano!

    Jason and Shelby are joined by Micah Otano—multi-platinum producer, songwriter, and musician whose credits include Frank Ocean, Solange, Fantasia, and more. From touring with Solange to crafting Grammy-winning records, Micah shares insider stories, creative insights, and the journey behind his powerhouse career in music.

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    Alex Coles!

    This week, Jason and Shelby welcome their first-ever international guest – rising Canadian singer-songwriter Alex Coles! 🌎✨Join us as we dive into Alex’s journey from Toronto to the global stage, unpack his creative process behind hits like Bored Games and Act Natural, and explore how he’s connecting with a rapidly growing fanbase around the world.From songwriting secrets to the challenges of carving out an authentic voice in today’s music scene, this episode is packed with insight, laughter, and inspiration for artists and music lovers alike.

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    Parker Mathews!

    This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby sit down with Nashville-based singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist Parker Mathews — one half of the rising alt-pop duo Nox Holloway. With a background in audio engineering and a knack for blending genres, Parker’s fingerprints are all over the band’s sound — from songwriting and production to live performance. Tune in as we dive into Parker’s creative process, the story behind Nox Holloway, and how he’s carving out a space in today’s evolving music landscape.

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    You can't sing where?!?! Crazy singing laws in the U.S.

    This week, Jason and Shelby uncover the wildest and weirdest singing laws across the U.S.—from humming in weird places to full-on bans in public spots. Why were these laws made? Are they real? And could you be breaking one without even knowing it? Tune in for laughs, legal oddities, and a whole lot of vocal disbelief.🗣️ Hit play. You might be an outlaw… just for singing.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

The Vocal Lab Collective is dedicated to elevating the music industry by empowering and developing top-tier artists and industry professionals with first-class conversations, cutting-edge techniques, and transformative insights into music, leadership, and personal growth.To inspire and empower the elite 10% of the music industry through mentorship, collaboration, and innovation, fostering a community where high achievers can thrive, innovate, and lead the next wave of musical excellence.This podcast is for those who are ready to work - to really work - and elevate their music career to the next level. Get ready to find your voice, love your craft, and unlock your true potential.

HOSTED BY

Shelby Rollins and Jason Catron

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