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The Wise Mind Happy Hour
by Kelly Kilgallon & Jon Butz
Two therapists musing about the idea of an inner wise mind and how to connect with this psychic space in different contexts.
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ANALYZING VLADIMIR
Send us Fan MailA tenured professor, an open marriage with rules that suddenly don’t work, and a campus Title IX scandal that makes everyone pick a side. We just watched Netflix’s Vladimir (starring Rachel Weisz, Leo Woodall and John Slattery) and we couldn’t stop talking about it. Beneath the darkly playful humor is a surprisingly sharp look at what desire does to your mind, your body, and your sense of self.💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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Cognitive Distortions
Send us Fan MailYour mind can be brilliant and still be wrong, especially when you’re hungry, tired, anxious, or feeling rejected. Let's "get serious" about the thought patterns that quietly run so many of our worst days: magnification and minimization, catastrophizing, overgeneralization, magical thinking, personalization, mind reading, fortune telling, emotional reasoning, disqualifying the positive, should statements, and all-or-nothing thinking. These thoughts can feel so convincing but can be protective, and a trauma-informed perspective can explain where they came from without letting them drive the car forever. 💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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LOVE LANGUAGES
Send us Fan MailLove doesn’t fail loudly most of the time. It fails quietly, in the space between what we meant and what our partner actually felt. Where do you land on love languages and top sheets?- music by blanket forts -
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FEAR OF THERAPY
Send us Fan MailTherapy is scary. If you're a therapist, if you're a client...SCARY. (Sorry we're releasing before Halloween.) We discuss some of the most common fears and delve deep into the rabbit hole of the vulnerabilities that therapy can unearth.💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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When is it Wise to PUSH Yourself?
Send us Fan MailSo, in the name of PUSHING OURSELVES, we are pushing ourselves to run a re-run of an old episode and let go of our PERFECT PODCASTING STREAK ⚡️ is this wise? YOU TELL US. (New content coming next week!!!)💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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THE PLIGHT OF THE ELDEST DAUGHTER
Send us Fan MailAre you an ELDEST DAUGHTER? Have you ever felt like the world rests on your shoulders? Do you ever envy your middle and younger siblings (or...gasp...your BROTHERS?) Then this episode's for you. (And if you're a curious middle or inquisitive baby, please feel free to explore as well.) We all have something to learn here.💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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The DBT Consultation Agreement - Pt. 02
Send us Fan MailJon rejoins us for our robust analysis of the last 3 tenets of the DBT Consultation Agreement: 1) observing limits, 2) the non-judgmental stance and 3) the fallibility agreement.💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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ALICE & STEVE GO TO THERAPY
Send us Fan MailY'all seen 2026 Hulu smash hit TV show "Alive and Steve" starring Jemaine Clement from "Flight of the Conchords?" Want HELLA SPOILERS? Conflicted about aging? Well then you've come to the right place.💿 music by blanket forts 💿
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how wise is TALKING ABOUT YOUR FERTILITY JOURNEY?
Send us Fan MailJon is literally on vacation (he is sorely missed) so we decided to take this opportunity to talk about our fertility journey. How wise is THAT?- music by blanket forts -
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The DBT Consultation Agreement - Pt. 01
Send us Fan MailThe Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) consultation team agreements are the backbone of effective DBT consultation groups. Today we delve into 3 of these key agreements: 1) "no absolute truth, look for what’s left out," 2) "don't fragilize your clients" and 3) "leave room for multiple modalities."- music by blanket forts -
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the wisdom of SELF COMPASSION + ironing clothes
Send us Fan MailFor those of you who roll your eyes at the term "self compassion"...this ep is worth a listen. (Or at least a read through the transcript.) Many of us are so stuck in a trance of unworthiness, that it might seem like self compassion is overly indulgent (or counter to our ambitions.) In this episode, we respectfully challenge this notion...and also dive into the wisdom of ironing clothes....or is steaming best?- music by blanket forts -
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Why Would You Pay to Talk to a Man?
Send us Fan MailToday we explore a counterintuitive trend among women: intentionally seeking out straight, male therapists for their mental health care. Inspired by The Cut article "Why Would You Pay to Talk to a Man?" by Meaghan O'Connell, we dive deep into this phenomenon. While a large majority of women still prefer female therapists, both clients and clinicians are making concrete use of gender dynamics inside the consulting room.- music by blanket forts -
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Therapeutic Presence
Send us Fan MailKelly Kilgallon (LCSW) and Jon Butz (LCPC) dive deep into “Therapeutic Presence: Therapists’ experience of presence in the psychotherapy encounter,” an article by Shari M. Gellar & Leslie S. Greenberg. What does it mean for a therapist to be TRULY PRESENT during a session? Should they “bracket” their personal lives and inner worlds during a session? Juggling one’s own subjective experience with the incredibly demanding clinical work of psychotherapy can be quite the tightrope to walk..so walk it with us.- music by blanket forts -
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OPPOSITE TO EMOTION ACTION
Send us Fan MailWhat if we told you that 96 % of your emotional impulses are counter to your values...would you be surprised? Better yet, what if we challenged you to act "in opposite" to your impulses? Maybe this sounds crazy, but studies show that it could change your life. (Let's just be a little loose with the definition of "opposite" 😉)- music by blanket forts -
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the wisdom of LANGUAGE (feat. Mikhl Yashinsky)
Send us Fan MailYiddishist Mikhl Yashinsky joins us to dissect the psychology of language...what if we all spoke every language (or at least tried?) Would we have global peace? And what if we approaching learning new languages through the lens of curiosity rather than the lens of conquest? PLUS: how wise is it to "read" Audiobooks?www.yashinsky.com- music by blanket forts -
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(over)analyzing SHRINKING
Send us Fan Mail2 therapists get together to discuss the hit Apple TV show "Shrinking" ❤️🔥 did somebody say "spinoff potential?"- music by blanket forts -
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THE INNER CRITIC
Send us Fan MailCriticism can be hard to hear...but what about the criticism coming from inside our own brains? We all have our own unique form of "inner critic." And while a hateful internal monologue can be a tough beast to tame, perhaps the first step is understanding why it exists. Maybe it wants to help us more than we think.- music by blanket forts -
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what's your FAVORITE form of THERAPY? (feat. Ethan Krasman MSW)
Send us Fan MailCBT, DBT, psychodynamic, ACT, EMDR...you might be familiar with some (or all) of these acronyms. Therapy can be taught in many forms, and we all have our preferences (both as therapists and clients.) BUT: is it possible that these various approaches have more in common than meets the eye?
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psychological FLEXIBILITY
Send us Fan MailHow does it feel to literally STRETCH YOUR BRAIN? We all know what flexibility is...but what about "psychological flexibility?" OK, maybe it's not that confusing...but what if we make it EVEN LESS CONFUSING? Learn what can happen to your wise mind when you allow space to free yourself from the version of yourself you think you want to be...you might surprise yourself.
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MANIFESTATION w/ Megan Fojo
Send us Fan MailCan I get that "woo woo?" Special guest Megan Fojo joins us for a deep dive into the wise world of manifestation.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Two therapists musing about the idea of an inner wise mind and how to connect with this psychic space in different contexts.
HOSTED BY
Kelly Kilgallon & Jon Butz
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