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Thereafter

by Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier

Welcome to the Thereafter, a place where we explore life on the other side of faith change. We’re here to break down the binaries, deconstruct the dualities, and wander through what it looks like to live in the gray. In church, we were told that life after leaving would be a bitter wasteland of unfulfilling hedonism. But we’ve discovered quite the opposite. There is actually a vibrant community of people on the other side of faith who are finding space for hope and healing. Come along, as we explore the all too often uncharted expanse of evangelicalism, evolving faith, and life thereafter.

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  1. 117 - Melissa Duge Spiers | Holy Disobedience

    Today's guest is Melissa Duge Spiers, author of the soon to be released, Holy Disobedience: A Survivor’s Journey from the Church that Betrayed Her—a book that does just that. Melissa’s story is one of survival, revelation, and ultimately, moving forward into real life. Raised in the Seventh-Day...

  2. 116 - Emily Joy Allison | Purity Culture, #ChurchToo, and Where We Go From Here

    Emily Joy Allison is a writer, poet, and yoga teacher. She holds a degree in philosophical theology and apologetics from Moody Bible Institute and a Master of Theological Studies from Vanderbilt Divinity School. In November 2017, as the #MeToo movement was going viral, Emily came forward with her...

  3. 115 - Brian G Murphy Returns | Sex, Spirituality, and Queerness

    We are so excited to have Brian G Murphy back on the pod today! Brian has been doing LGBTQ activism and education for over a decade with organizations like Soulforce, GLSEN, and HRC. He received nonviolence training from civil rights leaders including Phil Lawson. He's spoken about sexuality and...

  4. 114 - Marla Taviano Returns | Catching Up About Life, Books, Resistence, and More

    We were so excited to have Marla back on the show this week! Marla Taviano (she/her/) is into: books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, poems (and a hundred other things). Reads and writes for a living (and a life). Wears her heart on her t-shirts. On a…

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  5. 113 - Lucas Wilson Returns | Surviving Conversion Therapy & New Book Shame-Sex Attraction

    This week on the pod we have return guest Lucas Wilson!! Here to talk about his newly released book "Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy". Lucas was on the pod before (way back on episode 022!) You can take a listen to that episode here if you'd like to hear more of...

  6. 112 - Meghan & Cortland | New Year Check in

    No guest on today's episode. Meghan and Cortland spend the time catching up and filling you in about what has been going on in our lives along with some quick updates about canceling Content Warning and what's next for the pod! If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to...

  7. 111 - Nate Nakao | Full Mutuality in Deconstruction

    ok, friends. We've been way behind! The conversation you're hearing on this episode with Nate was actually recorded a few months ago and the intro is even from a few weeks ago. Life has been coming at us fast and we've simply been way behind on all things for the pod. We're so glad to finally be...

  8. 110 - Meghan & Cortland | Parenting Through Deconstruction, Our Experiences

    No guest again this week. And sorry we are yet again releasing a little inconsistently this season. It's another good old yap session with Meghan and Cortland talking about parenting and their experiences with it through deconstruction. As per the ad spot at the beginning of the episode we'd love...

  9. 109 - Meghan & Cortland | Relationship Legibility - A Conversation on Polyamory, Divorce, Queerness & More

    No guest this week. Instead it's just a good old yap session with Meghan and Cortland talking about relationships and the conversations we've been having about them lately. As per the ad spot at the beginning of the episode we'd love to have you join us at Content Warning this coming February!…

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  10. 108 - Blake Chastain | Exvangelical and Beyond

    Today's guest Blake Chastain is the host of the podcast Exvangelical, writer of the newsletter The Post-Evangelical Post, and cofounder of Irreverent Media Group, a podcast collective and content network that highlights diverse voices doing work for post/ex-evangelical audiences. In 2016, he...

  11. 107 - Tia Levings | A Well-Trained Wife & Her Escape From Christian Patriarchy

    Today's guest on the pod is Tia Levings, a writer, creator, guest expert, and content specialist. She shines light on the abuses of Christian fundamentalism and offers contextual insight into the true horrors of religious trauma. Her memoir, A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian…

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  12. 106 - Benjamin Faye Returns | DEI, CRT, Woke & Other Terms Used As Slurs by The Right

    We are so stoked to have Benji back on the pod! And even better yet this week joins us for our intro (Twitbits and the Gram Slam) for a bit of discourse before the main interview! If you haven't already, make sure you follow Benji in all the places! On Twitter https://x.com/_heytherebenji and...

  13. 105 - Jordan Morris | Demon Hunters, Comic Books, Mega Churches, and 90s Nostalgia

    We are so excited to be sharing this interview with Jordan Morris today! We ramble about some current events in the intro segment but if you're wanting to jump right to the conversation you can skip to 21:33. Jordan is a comedy writer with experience working in TV, features, comics, podcasts,...

  14. 104 - Meghan and Cortland | TwitBits and a Conversation About the Ashley Madison Docuseries

    Quick TW/CW about the begging of the episode. We talk a bit about the child sex abuses by Robert Morris and the response of Gateway Church. This topic may not be for everyone so feel free to skip over it to timestamp 17:00 to jump right to the main conversation of the episode. This story was...

  15. 103 - Celeste Irwin | The Complexity of Change When Stepping Out From Harmful Places

    We know we've been so behind!! We promise we have more amazing episodes on the way with some incredible guests. Today we bring you a conversation we recorded a while back with our dear friend Celeste Irwin. It was such an amazing convo and we're so glad we're finally getting to share it! Celeste...

  16. 102 - Phil Drysdale | The Data on Deconstruction and a Bit On Spiral Dynamics

    This week on the pod we bring you a conversation with Phil Drysdale. For over a decade Phil has been sitting with people as they navigate the difficult process of deconstructing their faith. As well as doing research on the phenomenon. Check out all his work at https://www.phildrysdale.com/ If…

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  17. 101 - @Transvangelical Returns | Our Reaction When The Straight White Guy Changes His Mind

    Today we are releasing a more impromptu conversation that we got to have with our dear friend @Transvangelical about the ways we react when prominent straight white men in evangelicalism decide to become affirming of the LGBTQ+. Fort those who may have missed our previous conversation with...

  18. 100 - Sarah McCammon | Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church

    This week we're so grateful to be sitting down with Sarah McCammon. Sarah is the author of the newly released book The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living, and Leaving the White Evangelical Church. She is a National Political Correspondent for NPR and cohost of The NPR Politics Podcast. Her work…

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  19. 099 - @Transvangelical | Transition, Sex Work and Reclaiming Our Sexuality Through Better Theology

    On today's episode we sit down with our guest Alycea, better known around the web as @Transvangelical. Alycea is a trans theologian, linguist, Bible translator, and sex worker. Much of her work focuses on reclaiming sexuality as an integral part of who we are. Make sure to go give her a follow in...

  20. 098 - Brandon Flanery | Stumbling - A Sassy Story About Coming Out of Evangelicalism

    On this weeks episode of the pod we sit down with Brandon Flanery! We are so excited to share this episode with you. Brandon's new book is out now and available everywhere! You can find links to follow Brandon everywhere and get a copy of his book at his website: https://brandonflanery.com/ If…

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  21. 097 - #ContentWarningEvent | A Recap and Debrief From the First Annual Content Warning Weekend

    This week we don't have a guest. It's just Meghan and Cortland sitting down to chat about the Content Warning Event which happened over President's Day weekend in Portland, OR. If you missed attending virtually, a replay copy of the recorded sessions will be available soon via...

  22. 096 - Carly Butler | Apocalypse Child - Living Through The End Of The World

    This week on the pod we have Carly Butler on to talk about her soon to be released book Apocalypse Child. We're so grateful to have this chance to chat with her and are so excited to be sharing it with you! You can find all the links to pre-order the book and follow her on all the socials at:...

  23. 095 - @TheSnarkyGent Returns | The Evangelical Training Program Industrial Complex Part 2

    Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod (again!) to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 2 of our conversation! Remember, that there's still time to register for the #ContentWarningEvent (both Virtually and In Person). You can register to attend at...

  24. 094 - @TheSnarkyGent Returns | The Evangelical Training Program Industrial Complex Part 1

    Matt @TheSnarkyGent returns to the pod to talk about the Evangelical Training Program Industrial complex. This is part 1 of our conversation! We had so much to talk about we had to break it up. Look out for part 2 next week! We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text...

  25. 093 - Trey Ferguson | Theologizin’ Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly

    This week we sit down with Trey Ferguson (known to many of us as PastorTrey05)! We're so excited to share this conversation with you and hope you take a moment to visit https://www.pastortrey05.com/book and pre-order a copy of his soon to be released book! And don't forget to follow @PastorTrey05...

  26. 092 - Meghan & Cortland | Why We Deconstruct

    No guest this week! Instead, Meghan and Cortland catch up about the conversation that seems to be constantly coming back up from evangelicals on the internet, which is, WHY WE'RE ALL DECONSTRUCTING. We'd love to hear from you too, so if you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd…

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  27. 091 - Flamy Grant | The Shame-Slaying, Hip-Swaying, Singing-Songwriting Drag Queen

    We are so sorry this is out late! But we are so very excited to be releasing this episode with Flamy Grant! In an effort to get it out ASAP I'm going to make the show notes here short so we can get get this published and have you enjoying it right away! You can check out Flamy's Kickstarter at:...

  28. 090 - Will (@Heretical_Theology) Returns | Gender, Witchcraft, and Our Personal Evolution of Beliefs

    This week we have a return guest!! Will from episode 013 returns to the show for an amazing conversation! Don't forget to give Will a follow over on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/heretical_theology/ and leave them a comment telling them you found them through the pod! Also, for those...

  29. 089 - Brittany Bruton | Family Dynamics, Chronic Illness, and Navigating Evolving Beliefs

    This week on the pod we are so grateful for the opportunity to sit down for a chat with Brittany Bruton! Brittany has been a dear friend of ours since before we were podcasting and we've wanted to have her on the pod for so long now! Make sure you give her a follow over on IG at:...

  30. 088 - Meghan & Cortland | Deconstruction Events, Community Building, and Platform Culture

    No guest this week. Cortland and Meghan sit down to chat in a shorter episode than usual. We cover all kinds of topics coming off a weekend of getting to hang out IRL. Get into it! If you are wanting to drop us a text note or voice memo we'd love to hear from you! You can email those to us at...

  31. 087 - @AlmightyGod | Deconstruction, Satire, and The Benefits of Blasphemy

    What an honor to have the one and only Almighty God on the pod! They, of course, need no introduction so let's all just jump in to the interview! Don't forget to follow God around the socials: on Twitter: https://twitter.com/almightygod on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@real_almightygod on...

  32. 086 - Matthias Roberts | Holy Runaways

    We are so excited to be sharing our conversation with Matthias Roberts on the pod today! Matthias (he/him) is a psychotherapist specializing in religious and spiritual trauma and the author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms. He hosts Queerology: A Podcast on Belief…

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  33. 085 - Season 4 Premier! | Meghan & Cortland Chat About What's Next

    Meghan and Cortland chat about what we've been up to and what we have planned for season 4. We're so excited for the conversations we're going to be having and sharing with all of you this season! If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and…

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  34. Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 4

    Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we…

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  35. Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 3

    Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we…

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  36. Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 2

    Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we…

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  37. Summer Series Mini-sode Ep. 1

    Welcome to our summer mini-sodes! We have decided to be done with Season 3 but don’t want to go all summer without hanging out and connecting with all of you, so we’ve decided to do mini-sodes that will pretty much just be our Twit-Bits segment of the show each week (or as close to weekly as we…

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  38. 084 - Erica Smith | Sex Ed & The Purity Culture Dropout

    This week on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Erica Smith! Erica, is an award winning sexuality educator and consultant with over 20 years of experience. Throughout her career, she has provided comprehensive sex education and advocacy to young women and LGBTQ+ youth in Philadelphia’s...

  39. 083 - Benjamin Perry | Cry Baby - Why Our Tears Matter

    We are so excited to share our interview with Benjamin Perry on today’s episode! Benjamin Perry is a minister at Middle Church and an award-winning writer whose work has appeared in outlets like The Washington Post, Slate, Sojourners, and Bustle. With a degree in psychology from SUNY Geneseo and…

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  40. 082 - Meghan & Cortland Talk Harm Reduction

    No guest interview on today’s episode! Cortland and Meghan talk about harm reduction, shared ethics beyond deconstruction, and the contrast with some of the large conservative platforms that exist in harmful and toxic ways. A content warning on this episode as we discuss Steven Crowder and a…

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  41. 081 - Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers & Chloë Abigail | Growing Up Sex Positive and Parenting Without Shame

    We are so excited to share this episode with you! This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers and Chloë Abigail. Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers is a best-selling author, speaker, and researcher on sexual shame and healing religious sexual trauma. She is professor emerita of...

  42. 080 - Community Chat | Hanging Out With Friends of the Pod!

    Hosts Cortland and Meghan spend today’s episode hanging out with folx from the Thereafter community. This was a spur of the moment episode celebrating what we love most about making this podcast - the people we get to interact with. The episode is a bit chaotic, but we hope you’ll have as much…

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  43. 079 - Jenna DeWitt | Asexuality and a Liberative Theology That Includes Everyone

    We are so excited to have Jenna DeWitt as our guest today on the pod! Jenna DeWitt (she/her) is a writer, editor, and resource curator. She uses her powers as a sapphic aromantic asexual to advocate for queer belonging in the church and greater awareness of aromanticism and asexuality within...

  44. 078 - Justin Gentry | Forced to Tithe and Other Tales of Leaving The Ministry

    On today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with Justin Gentry, former pastor and also co-host of two fabulous podcasts: REVcovery and Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk. Justin joins us for #twitbits and a larger conversation about ministry, forced tithing, and the exploitation of church staff and...

  45. 077 - Looking Back — Meghan and Cortland Reminisce About The Pod, How We Got Here, & How We’re Evolving

    Quick TW/CW up at the top! We do get into some conversation during the TwitBits portion at the beginning of the episode that could be triggering. We discuss sexual assault and rape in regards to the discourse around David and Bathsheba that has been happening on twitter once again. If you are not...

  46. 076 - Camille Hernandez | Reclaiming Healing and Liberation

    We are so very excited that today’s guest is Camille Hernandez! Camille is an abolitionist, community facilitator, and poet. In all her avenues, she uses care-centered leadership models to help survivors know their voice, be nourished in community, and develop self-compassion practices in order…

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  47. 075 - Josephine Jael Jimenez | Speaking of Church - From The One She Was Born Into, to Where She is Now

    Today on the pod we sit down with the one and only Josephine Jael Jimenez or as you may know her from around the web @JosieTakesTheWorld. Josie is the host of the Speaking in Church Podcast along with being the a photographer, writer and numerous other amazing things! She is a dear friend of the...

  48. 074 - Jennifer C. Martin | Polyamory and The Many Ways We Can Love

    Today's guest is the one and only Jennifer C. Martin, and we couldn't be more excited for her to be our Valentine's Day guest! She is a writer and editor living in Richmond, Virginia with her two partners, two children, and two pets. A former Pentecostal and current member of the United Church of...

  49. 073 - Marla Taviano | A White Girl Learning and Using Poetry to Process the Change

    Today we are honored to have Marla Taviano as our guest on the pod! Marla is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo).…

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  50. 072 - Kristina Hart | Comedy, Dating, Faith, Singleness, and Being Edgy on The Internet

    Today’s guest is Kristina Hart who is one of our favorite follows from around the web! Kristina is a writer, comedian, podcaster, and all around amazing human! On this episode Kristina brings her unique perspective as a Persian woman who grew up in Christianity, began her online career blogging...

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Welcome to the Thereafter, a place where we explore life on the other side of faith change. We’re here to break down the binaries, deconstruct the dualities, and wander through what it looks like to live in the gray. In church, we were told that life after leaving would be a bitter wasteland of unfulfilling hedonism. But we’ve discovered quite the opposite. There is actually a vibrant community of people on the other side of faith who are finding space for hope and healing. Come along, as we explore the all too often uncharted expanse of evangelicalism, evolving faith, and life thereafter.

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Cortland Coffey & Meghan Crozier

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Welcome to the Thereafter, a place where we explore life on the other side of faith change. We’re here to break down the binaries, deconstruct the dualities, and wander through what it looks like to live in the gray. In church, we were told that life after leaving would be a bitter wasteland of...

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