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Things Not Seen Podcast
by Things Not Seen
"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.
Episodes
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#2610 - Experiencing God: Jon M. Sweeney
Jon M. Sweeney introduces us to 36 ways to understand God through the wisdom of Saint Francis. Francis of Assisi was spiritual before anyone used that word, and he was religious in the best ways. We love him because he cut through the paraphernalia to get back to religion where it belongs…
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#2429 - Ethics for a Digital Age: Kate Ott [Rebroadcast]
Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, & Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2428 - Consent in the Garden: Timothy Morton
Our guest, Timothy Morton, argues that there is an unexpected yet profound relationship between religion and ecology that can guide a planet-scale response to the climate crisis. Spiritual and mystical feelings have a deep resonance with ecological thinking, and together they provide the…
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#2427 - Who Is a True Christian?: David W. Congdon
Our guest, David W. Congdon tells the story of how 20th-century American Christians have repeatedly sought and failed to define and defend a "pure" form of Christianity. We discuss his recent book, Who Is a True Christian?: Contesting Religious Identity in American Culture. Learn more about your…
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#2426 - Building Beloved Community: Jacob L. Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone [Rebroadcast]
We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2425 - Engaging Thomas Merton: Daniel P. Horan
Our guest, Daniel P. Horan, returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism. This important book is based on contemporary engagements with the work and legacy of Thomas Merton that highlight the enduring relevance of his thought…
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#2424 - Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]
Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2423 - Receiving the Gift of Our Mortality: James K. A. Smith [Rebroadcast]
Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and...
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#2422 - The Music of Eternity: William G. Carter
In his recent book,Thriving on a Riff, Presbyterian minister and jazz pianist Bill Carter introduces us to the spiritual worlds opened up by jazz music. From King David to Dave Brubeck, from the Psalms of Israel to John Coltrane's A Love Supreme, musicians help us glimpse the experience of music…
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#2421 - The Importance of Hope: John Blake [Rebroadcast]
Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2420 - Wounded Solidarity: Sr. Julia Walsh
Sr. Julia Walsh talks about her gripping spiritual memoir, For Love of the Broken Body, chronicling her journey through religious life and traumatic injury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2419 - The Books That Carry Us: Jon Sweeney
Veteran editor and author Jon Sweeney returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his most recent work, My Life in Seventeen Books: A Literary Memoir Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2418 - What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes [Rebroadcast]
We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2416 - We Are Diamond Castles: Julia Feder
Our guest, Julia Feder, discusses her recent book, Incarnating Grace: A Theology of Healing from Sexual Trauma. The book attempts to save our broken ways of talking about God's grace by unearthing liberating resources buried in the Christian tradition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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#2417 - God's Provision: Anna Broadway
Our guest, Anna Broadway, discusses her recent book, Solo Planet: How Singles Help the Church Recover Our Calling. Through its deeply researched account, Solo Planet shows how a more biblical approach to singleness can strengthen churches and empower singles to thrive. Learn more about your ad...
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#2315 - Lean into Fragility and Mystery: Donna Freitas
Our guest, Donna Freitas, talks about her recent book, Wishful Thinking: How I Lost My Faith, and Why I Want to Find It Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2414 - We Never Interpret Alone: Rabbi Shai Held
Our guest, Rabbi Shai Held, talks about his recent book: Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life. Held reminds us that love is foundational and constitutive of Jewish faith, animating the singular Jewish perspective on injustice and protest, grace, family life, responsibilities...
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#2413 - A Call to Action for the Marginalized - Miguel De La Torre [Rebroadcast]
Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2412 - Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ [Rebroadcast]
Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. In his 2022 book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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#2411 - Catechesis Through Commerce: Leah Payne
Our guest Leah Payne traces forty years in the formation of American Evangelical identity through a mixture of Christian bookstores, Contemporary Christian Music, charismatic recording artists, and self-reinforcing product placements. We discuss her recent book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A...
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#2410 - Repairing What Race Broke in the World: Lisa Sharon Harper [Rebroadcast]
Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. She discusses her recent book, Fortune. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2409 - Politics is Penultimate: Michael Wear
Our guest, Michael Wear, has lived at the intersection of faith and politics at the highest corridors of power. In his recent book, The Spirit of Our Politics, Wear offers a distinctly Christian approach to politics that results in healing rather than division, kindness rather than hatred, and…
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#2408 - Prophetically Pragmatic: Mark Elsdon
Our guest Mark Elsdon talks about the coming wave of church property transitions, and what it will mean for communities and faith at large in the United States. We talk about his recent edited volume, Gone for Good? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2407 - The Reshaping of the American Church: Bob Smietana [Rebroadcast]
In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2406 - Behind the Scenes with Flannery O'Connor: Jessica Hooten Wilson
When celebrated American novelist and short story writer Flannery O'Connor died at the age of thirty-nine in 1964, she left behind an unfinished third novel titled Why Do the Heathen Rage? For the past ten-plus years, award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson has explored the 378 pages of typed...
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#2405 - Taking the Bible Seriously, Not Literally: Love Lazarus Sechrest [Rebroadcast]
In her recent book Race & Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and...
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#2404 - A Theology of Life with Depression: Jessica Coblentz [Rebroadcast]
Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2403 - The Great Love: Joyce Rupp
Bestselling author and beloved retreat leader Joyce Rupp speaks to us about her recent book, Jesus, Friend of My Soul: Reflections for the Lenten Journey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2402 - The Priest for the People with Problems: Dawn Eden Goldstein [Rebroadcast]
Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her recent book, Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor, which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2401 - Give up the God who does not believe in us: Rachel Mann
Our guest, Rachel Mann, calls Jane Austen "the supreme novelist of attention." In her recent book, A Truth Universally Acknowledged, Mann invites us to journey through the 40 days of Lent with the works of Austen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2353 - Radically Curious: Corey Nathan
Our guest, Corey Nathan, talks about his upbringing and religious journey from Judaism to Christianity. Along the way, he talks about his vision for ways for citizens to be able to talk across their differences and divisions, which he practices in his podcast, Talkin' Religion and Politics…
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#2352 - Meet the Magi: Eric Vanden Eykel [Rebroadcast]
In his 2022 book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry…
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#2351 - The Sacred Just Beneath the Surface - Barbara Mahany [Rebroadcast]
Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2350 - The Presence of Absence: Ronald J. Greer
Our guest, Rev. Ronald J. Greer, invites us into the realms of grief and mourning as he discusses his powerful recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2349 - We are Not Alone: Christine Valters Paintner
In her recent book, The Love of Thousands, our guest Christine Valters Paintner invites us to consider that angels, saints, and even our departed ancestors support and inspire us throughout our lives, and invite us toward holiness Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2348 - When Time Is Short: Timothy Beal [Rebroadcast]
Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2347 - Hope in Our Bodies: Maryann McKibben Dana [Rebroadcast]
Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2346 - A Story of a Countercultural Christian Community: Celeste Kennel-Shank
Our guest, Celeste Kennel-Shank, tells the intriguing story of the Community of Christ, a church community based in Washington, DC, and its five decades of ministry. We talk about her recent book, What You Sow is a Bare Seed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2345 - The Virtue Field: Eric Bowman on Harriet Tubman [Rebroadcast]
We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2344 - Dignity and Responsibility: Anthony M. Annett [Rebroadcast]
In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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#2343 - We Become What We Normalize: David Dark
We welcome back our guest, philosopher and educator David Dark, to talk about his recent book, We Become What We Normalize: What We Owe Each Other in Worlds that Demand Our Silence Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2342 - Life Has to Show at the Seams: J. Aaron Simmons
Our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons, invites listeners to take "risk with direction" in his recent book, Camping with Kierkegaard. In the book, he asks us to consider "what is worthy of our finitude?" and reads the question through the metaphors of outdoor adventure. Learn more about your ad...
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#2341 - The Victory of Public Broadcasting: Joshua Shepperd
Our guest, Joshua Shepperd, is an expert on the history of radio. His recent book, Shadow of the New Deal, tells the amazing and often surprising story of the rise of public broadcasting in the United States. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2340 - An Enfolding Sequence of Miracles: Jennifer Banks
Our guest, Jennifer Banks, discusses her recent book Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth, The book invites us to attend to birth as a challenging and life-affirming reminder of our shared humanity and our capacity for creative renewal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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#2339 - The Welcome Table: Greg Garrett on James Baldwin
Our guest Greg Garrett joins us to discuss his recent book, The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2338 - Repentance and Repair: Danya Ruttenberg
We welcome Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to talk about the five steps of repentance, set forth by Moses Maimonides, which form the heart of her recent book, On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2337 - Bearing Witness: Sarah Stankorb
Journalist Sarah Stankorb joins us to talk about her powerful book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2336 - Revisiting Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak
This week on Things Not Seen we check in with the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Weird Religion. Hosts Brian Doak and Leah Payne look back at five years of producing the show, and look ahead to what religion might mean for us in the decades to come. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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#2335 - What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes
We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves. We explore self-care as both a sacred and a subversive practice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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#2334 - Drawing Lines of Inclusion, Not Exclusion: David Hayward [Rebroadcast]
Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit...
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"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.
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