Two-age Sojourner

Two returning travellers report in. Nick is back from the Canon and Creed conference in Sydney, where a room of Reformed Baptists and Presbyterians tested each other's papers gently instead of tearing each other apart online, one speaker turned out to be magisterial, and the Noahic covenant turned out to be the hinge on which the whole cultural-engagement debate turns (Van Drunen said so about twenty times). Mike is back from Amsterdam, where every Protestant church flew the flags of the age and only the Catholics abstained, and from two weeks of speaking nothing but Greek at Tyndale. In between: the pre-flood and post-flood covenants with Noah, Kline on Cain's mark and the beginnings of the city, the villains of politicised theology and why everyone is watching the culture hand while the gospel hand goes unwatched, sacred space from Heiser to Luther's shoemaker, why two kingdoms is not the sacred-secular divide (apples and pears), Vocalzone lozenges, the Corrie ten Boom house, and a Sojourner Hall Greek intensive that teaches good theology and Greek at the same time.0:00 Greetings, lost voices and Nick's microphone2:01 Nick in Sydney: Canon and Creed, Christ College8:44 A.W. Pink's church and the Noahic covenant lecture13:20 The Noahic covenant debate: redemptive or common grace?21:42 Kline, Van Drunen and Cain's mark; Van Drunen is coming on25:11 Nick's three talks: mission drift and politicised theology32:08 Bring back the local church; sacred space and Heiser36:06 Luther, the shoemaker and vocation40:37 Two kingdoms is not the sacred-secular divide43:07 Van Drunen lost his voice: the Vocalzone interlude45:19 Amsterdam: Pride weekend and Kuyper's legacy49:17 Amsterdam's hidden church and Corrie ten Boom52:49 Mike's two weeks of spoken Greek57:48 Immersion done right, and a Sojourner Hall Greek intensive1:02:03 Sign-off

Mike, André and Nick settle in for an unhurried conversation that starts with a theological question about AI (will there be technology in the new creation, or is AI more weapon than calculator?) and opens out into the big one: how Lewis, Tolkien and the early church fathers held together two statements that sound like rivals, that Christianity is the only true religion and that Christianity is the most true religion. Along the way: Cain's cities and demonically taught knowledge, Silicon Valley shamanism, Peace Child and redemptive analogies, a Muslim Uber driver who oozed wisdom, Pharaoh, Jethro and the Magi, the UK's so-called quiet revival, The Myth of Disenchantment, and why seekers hungry for the supernatural walk past Reformed churches. André closes with a teaser: semper reformanda means retrieving a fully re-enchanted Reformed theology.

Awesome music by Jeremy Casella.Two Age Sojourner is back. After a long break, Mike, André and Nick pull three chairs back up to the kitchen table for an unhurried, unpolished conversation about theology, the kind you would overhear in a big dining hall. This relaunch episode is partly a "why are we doing this" reset and partly a map of where the show is going: a Reformed Baptist, Klinean conversation that does not pretend to have it all worked out.Along the way they talk about why Meredith Kline's reading of Scripture still matters (church and state, how to read the Bible, and how Kline unexpectedly prepared them to read the church fathers), the two-register cosmology of the visible and invisible realms, and why spirituality is booming on every side at once, from a revival of conservative Christianity to the rise of paganism, shamanism and DMT "other realm" experiences. They lay out the "study hall" idea, an in-person and online alternative to the conference and the struggling seminary pipeline, and make the case for honest conversation that concedes points to the other side instead of chasing the gotcha moment.It closes with Nick's upcoming Kennedy Creed conference, a look at the Christian nationalism debate, and a teaser for a future conversation on paganism as pre-Christian preparation, C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, and the retrieval questions around Islam and nationalism.HOSTSMichael Beck, Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand - https://www.gracenet.co.nzAndré Beck, Bethesda Baptist Church, Felixstowe, UK - https://www.bethesdafelixstowe.comNick Clevely, Covenant Grace Baptist Church, Timaru, New Zealand - https://www.covenantgracebaptist.churchCHAPTERS00:00 Intro00:25 We're back02:33 How podcasting changed07:59 Why Kline still matters10:32 Kline brings everyone to the table14:12 Andre's PhD and the invisible realms15:23 Spirituality is booming17:51 The name: Two Age Sojourner19:59 Upping the game (and YouTube)23:40 The study hall idea30:17 Greystone (and a He-Man detour)32:29 The seminary pipeline problem39:11 After truth, not winning42:50 Nick's conference and Christian nationalism48:02 Paganism, C.S. Lewis, and Islam (next time)Website: https://www.gracenet.co.nzSubscribe: [DRAFT: hosts to confirm the YouTube channel handle]#reformedtheology #meredithkline #christianpodcast

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.The article being discussed can be found here: https://meredithkline.com/files/articles/The-Feast-of-Cover-Over.pdf

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.The book being discussed can be found here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Reformed-Covenant-Theology-Systematic-Introduction/dp/1683597338

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.The article being discussed can be found here: https://meredithkline.com/klines-works/articles-and-essays/death-leviathan-and-martyrs-isaiah-24/

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The discussion with Nathan Wright can be viewed here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyrk0na43xo&t=1437sTwo-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

More links re. Pascal Denault:https://www.unherautdansle.net/https://www.amazon.com.au/Distinctiveness-Baptist-Covenant-Theology-Revised/dp/1599253666Link for info/to enrol for the IRBS-PQ class:https://www.zeffy.com/fr-CA/ticketing/f0af133f-da03-40f9-abf5-cd3bec404cd6Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Register for the conference here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/mandate-and-mission-tickets-923587614417?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=cp&aff=ebdsshcopyurl Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Register for the conference here - https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/mandate-and-mission-tickets-923587614417?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=cp&aff=ebdsshcopyurl The article being discussed can be found here: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/postmillennialism-a-biblical-critique/ Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.  Mike's new book "Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project" can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_mpb

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.  Mike's new book "Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project" can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_mpb

Details and registration for the 2024 Two Age Sojourner Conference can be found here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/mandate-and-mission-tickets-923587614417?aff=oddtdtcreator&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0PYECOSDq5PvGSMliPlYB_k7rN87AMxilITIhnoDYmRHPvbG9upKqZF6k_aem_NbDsJOffi3A5NARnbN9grg The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Details and registration for the 2024 Two Age Sojourner Conference can be found here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/mandate-and-mission-tickets-923587614417?aff=oddtdtcreator&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0PYECOSDq5PvGSMliPlYB_k7rN87AMxilITIhnoDYmRHPvbG9upKqZF6k_aem_NbDsJOffi3A5NARnbN9grg The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Details and registration for the 2024 Two Age Sojourner Conference can be found here: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/e/mandate-and-mission-tickets-923587614417?aff=oddtdtcreator&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0PYECOSDq5PvGSMliPlYB_k7rN87AMxilITIhnoDYmRHPvbG9upKqZF6k_aem_NbDsJOffi3A5NARnbN9grg The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. Registration for Andre’s talk can be found here:  https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/keds-spring-research-seminar-andre-beck-sats-tickets-845126414857?aff=oddtdtcreator&fbclid=IwAR1n6NQ1urkyd9auSi1ThMT1NjUQKwNyz7j2w4hDaEr8s2VRxWYYmN4tRSY

Books under discussion in this episode: Neo Calvinism (Brock and Sutanto) https://www.amazon.com.au/Neo-Calvinism-Theological-Introduction-Gray-Sutanto/dp/1683596463 Covennat Lord and Cultic CBoundary (Michael Beck) https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp  Neo-Calvinism and the Beatific Vision: Eschatology in the Reformed Tradition (Boersma) https://www.hansboersma.org/articles-1/neo-calvinism-and-the-beatific-vision-eschatology-in-the-reformed-tradition Dutch Neo-Calvinism and the Roots for Transformation (William Dennison) https://the-highway.com/neo-calvinism.pdf  Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Mike Abendroth's books are available here (Amazon):https://www.amazon.com/Books-Mike-Abendroth/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AMike+Abendroth Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

The book being discussed is available here (Amazon):https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_dp For more on Lee, see: https://www.youtube.com/@CharlesLeeIrons https://www.upper-register.com/ Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

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The book being discussed is available here (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/More-Than-Heaven-Theological-Glorification-ebook/dp/B0B51T3BJJ Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

wo-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. You can find Dr Jeon's book, Biblical Eschatology, here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Biblical-Eschatology-Covenant-Global-Mission/dp/1666716251

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. Patrick Abendroth's - Covenant Theology is here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Theology-Patrick-Abendroth/dp/0976080427 Pactum Conference Registration is here: https://brushfire.com/pactum/pactumconference/551297?fbclid=IwAR2NZI-70n-grXDEWDWPYpPhMrb4n5H3mPO1nO4kUUgM-IMWSt_U8xNdqo4

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. The article under discussion in this episode can be found here: https://www.gregwelty.com/2015/10/are-molinist-distinctives-found-in-the-bible/

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. To find out more about Omaha Bible Church and Chris Peterson, check out https://www.omahabiblechurch.org/pastoral-leadership

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. Mike's new book "Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project" can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_mpb

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.  The book by (by Miles Van Pelt) referred to in the show can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Biblical-Theological-Introduction-Old-Testament-Promised/dp/1433533464 Mike's new book "Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project" can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_mpb

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by is Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).  Each week (well, most weeks) Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).  Mike's new book "Covenant Lord and Cultic Boundary: Meredith Kline and the Reformed Two-Kingdom Project" can be purchased here: https://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Lord-Cultic-Boundary-Two-Kingdom-ebook/dp/B0BV9KN5XT?ref_=ast_author_mpb Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by is Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).  Each week (well, most weeks) Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).  Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com

Two-age Sojourner is hosted by is Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz).  Each week (well, most weeks) Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother), is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com).  Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music.  For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com