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unBetween
by unBetween Podcast
When the choice seems to be to tear down the church or build a wall around it, we aim to walk the narrow road of nuance through the wilderness between the warring factions and try to figure out what it means to love God and people well.
Episodes
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Shepherds & Stages Pt. III
We've already had two conversations about leadership in the church, and how we as followers should respond to our leaders. But what happens when those leaders are insulated from accountability? What happens when a leader cannot be questioned? On this episode we dig a bit deeper into our Shepherds...
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Learning In Tongues: Music, Sermons, Scripture, & The Vocabulary Of Faith
When we were children, we spoke as children, and we used the words that we knew. But hopefully, as we grow, we learn new words, and new ways of describing the world around us. And our church experience - the songs we sing, the sermons we hear, the books we read, the spiritual conversations we...
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Discipled By Technology - Ai, Algorithms, & High-Tech Christianity
Technology is constantly shaping us, whether we know it or not. Marketing messages, social media, television, and now AI are all constantly competing not just for out attention, but for our hearts and minds. Are we aware of how much of our faith is being co-opted by technology and those who stand...
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Spark Plugs, Sanctification, and Sunday's Best
Ever heard something that immediately made your internal check-engine light come on? We unpack a comment about “coming as you are” that hit one of us the wrong way. Somehow, that led us into a conversation about sanctification, Sunday’s best, and why we don’t always hear things the same way after...
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An Attractive Blur: Image, Identity, & Kevin Hart
Sometimes, we look in the wrong places for our identity - celebrities, pastors, teachers, theologians, musicians, when we should be defining ourselves how Christ does. We talk through what it looks like to live out our identity faithfully, and whether Kevin Hart has anything to say about it.
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Action! (It's 2026, Y'all.)
As has been our custom for a while now, we start the new year by contemplating the year we just wrapped up. What do we have to say? Can we still contribute to the cultural conversation about faith in a meaningful way?
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Beyond the Noise
This episode almost didn't make it. Why? Well, sometimes things don't quite happen like you hope they will. This episode was recorded and edited in October and then somehow wiped from existence(that may or may not be my fault-Ryan). But... we thankfully record back up audio. On this episode we…
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Do I Have To Like Church To Love Jesus?
You've probably heard this verse quoted - "Do not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing." And if you've been a Christian for any amount of time, you've probably encountered something about church that you didn't like, or even deeply hurt or grieved you. We're commanded to...
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Blessed Are God's Favorites, For Their Outrage Is Justified
As we wrap up our Beatitudes series, we wrestle with what it really means to be blessed when persecuted and reviled. This radical statement from Jesus stands in stark contrast to the comfort-driven values of the world — and especially of modern America. In this episode, we unpack how the American...
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"What if I Stumble?" - Michael Tait
"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips then walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable." -Brennan Manning On this episode, we wrestle with the recent news…
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Just The Essentials
If you've been A Christian - or at least a church-goer - for any amount of time, you've likely heard some variation of the phrase "As long as we agree on the essentials..." But what happens when we can't agree on what the essentials are? In this episode we explore our tribalistic religious...
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"He Restoreth My Soul"
We live in a crazy world. Everyday demands and the "daily grind" can feel like a lot sometimes. Often we may steal a few moments to "zone out" and resort to mindless scrolling or doing nothing at all to get that well deserved rest... BUT, what if that really isn't rest at all? On this episode we...
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Blessed Are The Instigators
What is a peacemaker? Is it someone who ends conflict by triumphing over their enemies, or someone who gives away ground and compromises in order to avoid conflict? Or is it something else altogether? In this episode, we wrestle with what peace actually is, and how God wants us to make it.
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If You Vote For ___ You're Not A Christian
The kingdom of God is fundamentally opposed to the way that the kingdoms, empires, and governments of the world operate. Have we been living in Babylon, Egypt, and Rome (so to speak) for so long that we can no longer tell the difference?
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Blessed Are Those Whose Hearts Are Divided
Would you drink a glass of water with floaters in it? Not too appealing, right? That's the state of our hearts when we allow our allegiances to be divided between God and the things of the world - and the things of the world may not be what you're thinking. In this continuation of our…
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I Pledge Allegiance To... Myself
What are we truly living for? Is our desire to truly pursue the purpose God has for us, or is our goal to pursue our own success and desire to be remembered? While we don't ever claim to have the answers, some things are hard to ignore. Comfort, Convenience, and Control have slowly become king…
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A Few Steps Further
Big epiphanies? Earth-shattering realizations? Spiritual mountaintops? Nah, not really, just a couple of dudes talking about some things they've learned, some things they're still struggling with, and the inescapable goodness of God.
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The Wind Blows Where It Wishes
Most of us have had moments where we feel God’s leading, but it often looks different for each of us. Some argue that they can hear God audibly while others maybe feel a gentle nudge from the spirit. Is it possible some are so in tune with God that they hear his leading easily while others need…
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What Were We Thinking?
Two dudes reflect on a year of life and podcasting. Did we learn anything? And if so, do we remember it?
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Blessed Are The Merciless
Mercy. It shouldn't be so difficult. Especially when we have experienced the Mercy of God. But as we have explored in other conversations... it just isn't always that simple. In this episode we continue discussing the Beatitudes. We specifically dive into Matthew 5:7, "Blessed are the merciful…
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Blessed Are The Fast Food Christians
According to Jesus, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness are blessed. But have we allowed ourselves to be satisfied with less than the feast served on God's table? In this episode, we talk about what it means to hunger and thirst for the things of God, what it most certainly does not…
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Sex, Drugs, and Christian Music
We get it… sex sells and you can definitely say things a certain way to get people listening. BUT, does that mean it is the right, or even wise, thing to do? In this episode we discuss a recent article we came across from Kevin McNeese of New Release Today. The article, titled “What The Bleep Is...
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Selah For Dummies
What does it mean to listen to the voice of God in a world full of noise? How can we know what we're supposed to be doing if we're not hearing the One who's leading us? In this episode we talk about the fact that Sabbath is less about a day of the week and more about living life in rhythm with God.
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Blessed Are The Powerful, For They Take What They Want
When one hears "Blessed are the Meek," they likely have something come to mind. But what does it really mean? Have we made it something it's not? In this episode we continue discussing the Casualty of The Beatitudes. This time we explore how our culture has decided that the powerful are more…
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Blessed Are Those Who Suck It Up
"Don't let it get to you." "Man, just let it roll right off you." "Stay positive!" All good advice, right? Problem is, we all reach a point at which we have to own our pain, or it will consume and define us. In this episode, we talk honestly about our emotions, the language of lamentation, the...
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Blessed are the Rich in Ego
The Beatitudes are a pretty clear example of the people that God blesses and even what that blessing equates to. BUT... for whatever reason, it seems those same characteristics aren't appreciated or respected on Earth. So... what do we do with that? Unfortunately, we have (quietly of course)...
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Collateral Damage: The Casualty of the Beatitudes
Sometimes we start talking and don't quite know where we will end up. Fortunately, this time it is well worth the journey. We start in Deuteronomy and somehow end up in Matthew, but... we hit along some interesting thoughts on the way. This episode serves as an intro or on ramp to a new series...
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I’ve Deconverted! Please Like & Subscribe with Joshua S. Porter
You don't write a book called "Death To Deconstruction" without raising a few eyebrows. Author, pastor, and art punk purveyor Josh Porter is back to talk about the response to his book (both positive and negative) what surprised him about the process of releasing the book, the secret Showbread...
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Seed Tick, Wood Tick, Dog Tick, Heretic
So...what is heresy, exactly? It's a term that gets thrown about quite freely, but if you were to ask 10 different people to define it, you might get 10 different answers. We try to get to some clarity on the issue, and hopefully stumble onto some wisdom along the way.
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Lights! Camera! Faction!
There is so much much going on in this world right now. Christians have been put in the spotlight in many ways, though not always good. Unfortunately... instead of that being something to point people to truth, it has only further contributed to the idea that each person can have their own…
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Bear With Me...
We know you'll be shocked, but we're talking about the middle ground again. In this conversation, we talk about our tendency (in America, anyway) to look towards political policies, leaders, and parties to solve the problem of the human condition. Trouble is, they can't - and we forget that to…
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Inspiration vs. Instruction
What we need vs. what we want is almost always different. We often try to substitute a desire for inspiration with the necessary, yet uncomfortable, need for instruction. This is especially evident when it comes to the church. In this episode we attempt to discuss these things in truth and with...
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Whose Side Are We On, Anyway?
What is it that sticks out to people about us? What allegiances do we wear on our sleeves that we're not aware of? In this episode, we try to parse being purposeful vs. being partisan, and ponder (that's a lot of p's) what it would take to be in tune with God and what He wants from us.
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Rotten Fences
Things aren't always what they seem. We live in a world where many parse out the different part of their lives depending on how they want to be seen. And in some cases, we just do things because it seems like that is how they should be done. Not confusing at all right? We know how we should live…
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Here’s The Thing...
Welcome to Season 3 of unBetween! You've probably heard that you should put God first in your life. But what if He doesn't want to be first? What if He wants to be more than that? We talk about priorities, community, perspective, and a lot more in this first episode of 2023.
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Giving It The Sense
As we wrap up 2022, we reflect on the past year of life, podcasting, and uncertainty. It has been a busy year and many things have happened. Our discussion covers things like our failed attempts to plan out our lives, the importance of community, seeking clarity over comfort, and many other…
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A Spirit Reborn with Jason Truby
Jason Truby is back to continue our conversation about his experiences as a musician and a Christian, but a lot of our time is spent reflecting on the nature of our lives as people of faith, and how, at the end of the day, the only question that really matters is "Do you know Him?" Jason Truby…
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Death to Deconstruction with Joshua S. Porter (Pt.2)
The second part of our conversations with our favorite art punk prophet. Josh Porter has a new book out, and he was gracious enough to return to the mic to talk with us about it! Death to Deconstruction - Faithfulness As An Act of Rebellion chronicles Josh's pilgrimage through his own...
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Death to Deconstruction with Joshua S. Porter (Pt. 1)
Our favorite art punk prophet Josh Porter has a new book out, and he was gracious enough to return to the mic to talk with us about it! Death to Deconstruction - Faithfulness As An Act of Rebellion chronicles Josh's pilgrimage through his own deconstruction of his faith and religion, and explains...
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Metaphors In Motion with Jason Truby
Jason Truby has worn a lot of musical hats over the years - from metal, to hard rock, to acoustic, to fingerstyle, and a few other stops along the way. He was a founding member of Living Sacrifice and lead guitarist for P.O.D., but the uniting factor in all of his endeavors is the desire to…
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Level Up (It’s Not What You Think)
You perhaps have heard the phrase "level up" thrown around as some kind of pseudo-inspirational sound bite intended to give you an excuse to pursue goals that, at the end of the day, are more about you and what you want than what good you can do for other people. But there are times in our lives...
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Comfort, Convenience, or Conviction
In a world where there are so many things we are told we need or should do, what are we really pursuing? In this episode we talk through the pursuit of comfort and convenience over the pursuit of God and the misconception that as followers of Christ, life should be smooth and free of trouble.
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These Are Your Gods
"Celebrate yourself!" is a refrain that can seemingly be heard shouted from every cultural street corner these days, regardless of whether you're on standing the left or the right side of the tracks. In this episode, we talk about the deep-seated pull to selfishness both inside the church and...
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Disney, Hillsong, & VHS Tapes
Sometimes art is something we experience on a cultural level. There are media monoliths out there creating content that shapes our society, and not always for the better. What should a believer's response be when art enters our circles of influence - especially when it's coming from a source…
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The Holiness of Imagination with Nao Glover
Nao Glover is a musician, writer, communicator, and the editor of HM Magazine, which explores all the avenues of heavy music, and that made by people of faith in particular. We talk about her experiences in music, explore her master's thesis about the value of implicit communication in art, and…
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Art Is Cheap
What is art for? And what good is it when it becomes too diluted to accomplish its purpose? We talk honest art, sacred rhythms, self-reflection, and leaving space for selah.
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Spirit and Bone with Andy Zipf
Andy Zipf is a singer/songwriter with a poet's mind and prophet's heart that has been writing "rock n' roll hymns" for many years now. He has a new album coming out March 11 called How To Make A Paper Airplane, which was three years in the making. This beautiful collection of songs, recorded "in...
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Everything Fades If It’s Not Sustained By You
After an unintentional hiatus, we're back talking about the things in our lives that are sustainable, nonnegotiable, or prunable. What should we actually spend our time doing as followers of Jesus, and how do we make sense of difficulty and a lack of fulfillment?
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Native Tongues
We may not remember it, but there was a time when each of us was unable to speak - we had thoughts and emotions and even experiences, but no way to give voice to them or articulate them to someone else. In this episode, we discuss some of our individual experiences of key moments when art and…
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Punk Rock and the Spiritual Discipline of Art Appreciation with Joshua S. Porter
Joshua S. Porter is a musician, songwriter, and author, who is best known as the lead vocalist and lyricist for nigh-impossible to classify art punk juggernaut Showbread. He's also dabbled in a lot of other endeavors musical and otherwise like The Bell Jar, Annihilationism, The Word Virus, Church...
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When the choice seems to be to tear down the church or build a wall around it, we aim to walk the narrow road of nuance through the wilderness between the warring factions and try to figure out what it means to love God and people well.
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