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UnDoing We with Mardi Winder
by WGSN-DB Going Solo Network
UnDoing We: Divorce and Life Conversations is not your typical divorce show. Hosted by Mardi Winder, a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools, this show offers real talk, expert advice, and honest discussions on ending a relationship and the opportunity to redefine your life. Each episode provides practical guidance and emotional insight to help you move forward with clarity and confidence. Tune in for candid conversations with top experts on legal, financial, co-parenting, mindset, wellness, and more. UnDoing We is where your next chapter begins.
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Breaking the Silence on Childhood Abuse - Dr. Pamela J. Pine
Mardi Winder talks with Dr. Pamela J. Pine, an international health development professional and leading advocate on preventing and addressing child sexual abuse and other adverse childhood experiences. Together, they address the often unspoken realities of how conflict, whether high, moderate, or even low-level, within families can deeply affect children, shaping their lives long after the events themselves. Dr. Pine shares her personal and professional journey, including the influence of her upbringing and her mother’s commitment to social justice, and outlines how she was drawn into this challenging and vital field.The conversation covers the broad range of trauma children can experience, from witnessing domestic violence to direct abuse and neglect, and how these experiences manifest not just emotionally, but also neurologically and physically throughout life. Dr. Pine emphasizes the importance of understanding that most instances of abuse occur within trusted circles, dispelling myths of stranger danger and highlighting the impact of family dynamics. The episode also focuses on the power of communication and honesty with children, the dangers of secrecy, and practical ways parents and communities can support those at risk. Mardi and Dr. Pine encourage listeners to increase their awareness, offer support, and push for open discussions in community spaces. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.comConnect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Pamela J. Pine, PhD, MPH, has been an international health, development, and communication professional throughout her adult life, supporting the lives of poor and otherwise underserved groups, with a two-decade specialty on preventing and mitigating child sexual abuse (CSA) and other adverse childhood experiences (ACEs). She is the Founder/Director of Stop the Silence® - A Department of the Institute on Violence, Abuse and Trauma (IVAT). She is also a professor, best-selling and award-winning author, and a multimedia artist, which she uses in her work to open hearts and minds. To connect with Dr. Pine: Website: https://www.ivatcenters.org/stop-the-silence, Website: https://www.drpamelajpine.com, Email: [email protected]
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Empowered Money Conversations with Guest, Julia Shteynberg
Mardi Winder sits down with Julia Shteynberg, who brings her experience from the world of corporate finance to her work as a money coach. The conversation is friendly and easy-going, and Julia is quick to reassure listeners that you don’t have to be a celebrity or a billionaire to be considered a high earner. In fact, anyone bringing in over $100,000 is already facing many of the same emotional and practical challenges around money. Julia opens up about her own journey, explaining how she left her corporate job because it just wasn’t lighting her up anymore.She shares how money always seemed to “make sense” to her, and after some encouragement from family, she realized she could help others too, especially women, feel more confident and less stressed when it comes to their finances. She reminds us that so much of how we handle money is tied to the habits and beliefs we pick up as kids, often without even realizing it. Throughout the chat, Mardi Winder and Julia Shteynberg swap stories about fear, avoidance, and how people can feel stuck or overwhelmed, even when they appear to be doing well.Julia talks about things like “lifestyle creep” and the difference between spending with intention and just letting money slip through your fingers. She also breaks down the idea of creating simple systems, setting goals, making plans, and putting habits in place, so money feels less stressful and more like a tool you can actually use to support your life, whether you’re going through big changes like divorce or just trying to feel more secure day to day. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.comAbout Julia Shteynberg:Once in corporate finance, now a money coach, Julia Shteynberg helps high earners design a custom money system that aligns with their values and grows wealth. Through her Money Makeover program, she empowers women to manage their money with confidence and ease. Outside of talking money, Julia loves to explore the world, eat good food, drink good wine with her husband, and practice Pilates! For Julia’s gift: https://money-coach-julia.kit.com/2f6f2dcac0 To connect with Julia:Website: www.moneycoachjulia.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliashteynberg/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliashteynberg/
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Master Emotional Freedom After Abusive Relationships with Kate Mayor
Host Mardi Winder welcomes Kate Mayor, psychotherapist and emotional abuse recovery specialist, for an insightful discussion on healing after a toxic or narcissistic relationship. Drawing from both professional expertise and her own experience leaving an emotionally abusive marriage, Kate shares the challenges survivors often face, including fear, self-doubt, guilt, and manipulation during and after separation. Kate explains how high-conflict individuals may use tactics such as victim-playing, smear campaigns, and emotional manipulation, and offers practical guidance on staying focused, building support systems, and protecting your well-being.She also introduces The Healing Place, her app featuring tools such as CBT, tapping, hypnosis, and quantum healing to help individuals rebuild confidence, self-trust, and emotional resilience. This empowering conversation offers hope, practical strategies, and encouragement for anyone navigating recovery and reclaiming their life after emotional abuse. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com To connect with Kate: Website:https://rapidlifechangetherapy.com/ Bust Fear and Become Live Online Course: https://rapidlifechangetherapy.com/letgooffearandbecome
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Know Your Financial Options in Divorce with Donna S. Cates
On this episode of UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder welcomes Donna S. Cates, founder of Money Matters Wealth Solutions, Financial Strategist, and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® (CDFA®). Together, they explore the financial decisions during divorce that can have long-term consequences. Donna shares practical insights on dividing retirement accounts, understanding tax implications, handling QDROs and IRA rollovers, and avoiding costly mistakes when making decisions about the marital home. She also explains why involving a financial professional early in the process can help protect your future and provide greater peace of mind. This informative conversation offers guidance, clarity, and empowering strategies for women navigating divorce, retirement, and other major life transitions.Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.comConnect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comMore about Donna: Donna Cates is the founder of Money Matters Wealth Solutions and a Financial Strategist, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® (CDFA®), and retirement planning specialist who helps women become financially unshakeable. She works with women navigating major life transitions such as divorce, widowhood, retirement, and reinvention, guiding them to build real wealth, real security, and real options. Donna’s work isn’t about fear-based planning or playing small. It’s about clarity, confidence, and the power to choose on a woman’s own terms. She believes true financial security is about dignity, peace, and freedom, and that no woman should ever have to rely on someone else to protect her future. For Donna’ book “A Woman's Guide To Financial Security And Fair Settlement: Because She Is Her Own Financial Plan (Divorce Decoded)”: https://a.co/d/0dzvMCoq Connect with Donna: Website: https://moneymatterswealth.com/
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Embrace Change and Transformation After Divorce with Pritha Dindayal
Host Mardi Winder welcomes transformation coach Pritha Dindayal, who shares her powerful journey through divorce, personal loss, and major life transitions. Together, they explore why many people feel stuck between endings and new beginnings, and how old fears and patterns can quietly hold us back. Pritha offers practical insights on recognizing limiting beliefs, building supportive connections, and making intentional choices that restore confidence and self-trust. She also introduces her free guide to help reframe thought patterns after divorce. This episode provides inspiration and actionable tools for anyone ready to move forward with clarity, resilience, and purpose.Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com More about Pritha: Pritha Dindayal is a Transformation Coach who helps women navigate the in-between phase after something ends — a breakup, divorce, career shift, or identity change. She works with women who look fine on the outside but feel unsettled, stuck, or unsure on the inside. Pritha helps women recognize the invisible patterns they keep defaulting to and learn how to live from who they are now, not who they used to be. For Pritha’s gift: https://breakthrough-with-pritha.kit.com/a2ef29790f To connect with Pritha: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breakthroughwithpritha/
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Release Past Pain for Healthier Relationships with Olya Piccirillo
In this engaging and thought-provoking episode, Mardi Winder sits down with Olya Piccirillo, an accomplished wellness practitioner whose personal journey through illness, loss, and profound transformation has shaped her holistic approach to healing. Their conversation explores the deep, sometimes overlooked connection between unresolved trauma and physical health, drawing on both Western and Eastern perspectives on wellness. Olya shares how her early experiences with chronic illness and the loss of her husband revealed a pattern and how true healing goes beyond nutrition and lifestyle changes, reaching into the layers of emotional and energetic blocks stored in the body.Together, Mardi and Olya highlight how many of us unconsciously respond to life’s stressors and losses with repeated patterns—seeking comfort in food, numbing ourselves, or struggling with chronic health issues that traditional medicine may not fully address. The episode invites listeners to consider how their own history might be affecting their present, especially during major life transitions like divorce. Olya emphasizes the power of self-awareness and self-compassion, guiding clients to recognize old wounds and discover their capacity to rewrite their story. She also provides listeners with a free emotional detox assessment and invites them to explore support without obligation, underscoring how valuable it can be to take the first steps toward emotional and physical well-being. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comAbout the Guest Olya Piccirillo is Wellness Practitioner who helps people release the emotional and energetic blocks that impact their health, weight, and well-being. Her work explores the deep mind-body connection and how unresolved trauma—including ancestral and spiritual influences—can silently shape our health and life choices. Olya empowers women to heal the past so they can transform their future. FREE GIFT: The Emotional Detox Checklist: https://emotionaldetox.bio-matrix.net/checklist To connect with Olya: Central link site for Olya: https://olya360.com
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Mortgage And Refinancing Considerations In Divorce Stacey Ellison
On this episode, we shine a spotlight on a critical, but often overlooked, part of the divorce process: mortgages and refinancing. Host Mardi Winder is joined by Stacey Ellison, a certified divorce lending professional and experienced divorce mortgage planner. Together, they demystify the financial hurdles divorcing homeowners face, including talking about assumptions, equity buyouts, and why what’s written in your divorce decree may not always be doable when the real world (and real lenders) get involved. Stacey Ellison draws on her expertise to explain how mortgage guidelines shift during divorce, what it actually takes to keep or refinance a home, and why consulting the right professionals can make or break your financial future during and after a split.Whether your house is worth $200,000 or $10 million, you’ll walk away with practical insights into protecting your assets, qualifying for a loan, and building a sustainable post-divorce life. If you’re navigating divorce and property decisions, or just want to learn what goes on behind the scenes of housing settlements, this episode is a must-listen. Join us as we dive into the details and help you prepare to make informed, empowered choices for your future! Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Stacey Ellison is a Certified Divorce Lending Professional and Divorce Mortgage Planner with a deep understanding of the financial complexities that arise during and after divorce. With over 30 years of experience in the mortgage industry, Stacey brings a unique blend of technical knowledge and compassionate guidance to individuals navigating one of life’s most challenging transitions. Since earning her CDLP® designation in 2020, Stacey has worked closely with family law attorneys, mediators, financial planners, and other divorce professionals to provide strategic mortgage guidance tailored to each client’s needs. Her role is to ensure that both parties in a divorce understand their options when it comes to home equity, mortgage qualification, and long-term housing goals. Whether helping a client determine if they can keep the marital home, qualify for a new mortgage, or explore equitable buyout solutions, Stacey provides clarity, structure, and confidence in the decision-making process. Her goal is to help divorcing homeowners make sound financial choices that support both their immediate needs and long-term stability. To connect with Stacey:Linked in: linkedin.com/in/stacey-ellison-694052aDivorce Lending Assoc: divorcelendingassociation.com/offices/stacey-ellison.cfm
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Can You Mediate High-Conflict Divorces – Part 2
Can You Mediate High-Conflict Divorces – Part 2 Financial empowerment and emotional preparedness are at the center of this meaningful conversation with Victoria Kirilloff, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, as she joins Mardi Winder for the second part of their discussion about navigating divorce with high-conflict personalities. Victoria recounts her own journey through a decade-long relationship with a covert narcissist, emphasizing the importance of safety, support, and trauma awareness when separating from a high-conflict partner. She highlights how having a clear understanding of the financial aspects—particularly through documentation, cash flow analysis, and setting specific goals—can serve as an anchor amid the turbulence of divorce. Mardi and Victoria acknowledge the emotional hurdles many face, from gaslighting to trauma bonding, and explore why specialized, trauma-informed guidance is critical when standard legal approaches fall short.Together, they offer practical strategies for uncovering and verifying financial information, even when the other party is uncooperative or deceptive. Victoria Kirilloff explains how working closely with professionals like CDFAs can empower those in the process, helping to minimize stress and avoid costly, drawn-out legal battles. The episode closes with a reminder about the necessity of planning, self-advocacy, and having a strong support team. Victoria introduces her Divorce Goals workbook to help listeners clarify their objectives through all phases of divorce. Throughout, the message is clear: with the right support and preparation, it is possible to reclaim confidence and security, even amidst the challenges of a high-conflict divorce.Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.comConnect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Victoria Kirilloff, CDFA®, NCPM®, CDS®, was at a crossroads in a decade-long, financially entangled relationship that had turned toxic. To find her way out, she leveraged her background in financial analysis, creating the first Global Settlement Proposal and divorce report. This helped her and her partner reach a peaceful separation, sparking an idea: she could help others navigate divorce with financial clarity and empowerment.Victoria went on to found Divorce Analytics, a firm dedicated to making the financial side of divorce transparent and productive. By focusing on financial facts, she transforms divorce from a destructive process into one of empowerment. Victoria has also released a 9-part Divorce Planning Kit, available at DivorceAnalytics.com/shop. Along with her many financial licenses, she’s a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®, Certified Divorce Specialist®, and Nationally Certified Professional Mediator®. To connect with Victoria: Website: https://www.divorceanalytics.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/divorce-analytics
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Can You Mediate High-Conflict Divorces – Part 1
Today, Mardi Winder talks with Victoria Kirilloff, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst who brings both personal experience and a highly analytical lens to a high-conflict and toxic divorce process. The conversation explores how Victoria’s journey led her to create divorce analytics and develop the global settlement proposal, a powerful tool that gives individuals a complete and realistic view of their financial situation as they move through divorce.Victoria walks through why divorce cannot be treated as a single event. It is emotional, financial, legal, and social all at once, and when people begin to understand that complexity, they are far better positioned to make thoughtful, informed decisions. Mardi and Victoria talk about the importance of truly knowing your numbers, building a workable budget, and preparing well in advance of any negotiations or meetings with legal professionals. Victoria also shares the lessons learned from her own experience, including navigating a toxic relationship and ultimately building a business that helps others avoid the same costly mistakes. They discuss the critical need for financial transparency, proper documentation of assets, and the risks of misjudging asset values or making assumptions about spousal support. This is an honest conversation about what really happens when emotions and finances collide in a high-conflict relationship mediation. With the right support team, including financial specialists and strategic divorce guidance, it is possible to move through the process with greater clarity and confidence. Victoria brings both expertise and a grounded perspective that encourages you to see divorce not just as an ending, but as a turning point toward something more intentional and aligned with your future. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Victoria Kirilloff, CDFA®, NCPM®, CDS®, was at a crossroads in a decade-long, financially entangled relationship that had turned toxic. To find her way out, she leveraged her background in financial analysis, creating the first Global Settlement Proposal and divorce report. This helped her and her partner reach a peaceful separation, sparking an idea: she could help others navigate divorce with financial clarity and empowerment. Victoria went on to found Divorce Analytics, a firm dedicated to making the financial side of divorce transparent and productive. By focusing on financial facts, she transforms divorce from a destructive process into one of empowerment.Victoria has also released a 9-part Divorce Planning Kit, available at DivorceAnalytics.com/shop. Along with her many financial licenses, she’s a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®, Certified Divorce Specialist®, and Nationally Certified Professional Mediator®.To connect with Victoria:Website: https://www.divorceanalytics.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/divorce-analytics IG: https://www.instagram.com/divorceanalytics/
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The Reality Of Grief In Divorce with Guest, Karen Omand
On this episode, Mardi Winder talks with Karen Omand, a divorce and grief specialist who understands the deep emotional loss that can accompany the end of a marriage. Drawing from her own experiences with grief and a difficult relationship, Karen shares why divorce grief is often misunderstood and how it can affect everything from emotional health to identity and daily life.Together they discuss the many ways people experience grief during divorce and why it’s important not to suppress those feelings. Karen offers practical tools such as journaling, self-care, and seeking support, and introduces her helpful workbook “Just Separated,” designed to guide individuals through the legal, financial, and emotional aspects of divorce. The conversation offers reassurance that healing is possible and that, with time and support, life can become lighter and hopeful again. Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comMore about Karen: Karen Omand is a divorce and grief specialist with degrees in Sociology and Thanatology—the study of grief and loss. She works with people going through divorce who feel overwhelmed, conflicted, or stuck in grief, helping them find clarity, confidence, and calm so they can make decisions that truly serve them. As co-founder of The Divorce Workshop, certified grief counselor, and co-author of The Just Separated Workbook, Karen blends practical strategies with emotional insight. Her workshops, quizzes, and Just Separated Podcast offer real-world tools to manage loss, rebuild identity, and create a plan for life after divorce. Karen’s approach bridges the emotional and practical sides of separation, helping listeners move from chaos to clarity with strength and self-awareness.For Karen’s gifts: sample of Just Separated workbook www.divorceworkshop.ca/workbook22Free Grief Quiz: What are you really Grieving? https://divorce-grief-meter-karen107.replit.app To connect with Karen: Website: www.divorceworkshop.ca
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Budgeting and Money Matters in Divorce - Micah Roberts
💰 Budgeting and Money Matters in Divorce — Join Guest Micah Roberts, Chief Empowerment Officer of Empowering Financial Coaching, LLC, together with Host Mardi Adams on UnDoing We. In this practical and empowering episode, they discuss how budgeting, financial awareness, and smart planning can help individuals regain control of their finances during and after divorce. Learn how to create a realistic financial roadmap, manage expenses, and build a stronger financial future as you move into your next chapter.Micah, explains how to align your budget with your values, spend intentionally without guilt, and build supportive communities where asking for help is encouraged. This episode offers empowering strategies for reframing budgeting, adapting to life changes, and confidently taking charge of your financial future. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Micah Roberts serves as the Chief Empowerment Officer (CEO) of Empowering Financial Coaching, LLC, bringing a wealth of experience from her background in education, ministry, and coaching. Inspired by her own financial challenges and triumphs—and the support that made a difference—Micah co-founded Empowering Financial Coaching alongside her partner, Charles Roberts. Together, they are dedicated to serving as accountability partners and cheerleaders for their clients. Their coaching program is designed to help individuals and families discover personalized strategies to achieve financial empowerment and lasting success. For Micah’s gift: promo.empoweringfinancialcoaching.com/financial-shame-detox To connect with Micah: Website: empoweringfinancialcoaching.com
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The Importance of Loving Yourself - Nisha Goyal
Host Mardi Winder sits down with Nisha Goyal, self-love expert and life coach, for a heartfelt conversation about caring for yourself during challenging life transitions like divorce. Nisha shares her journey from burnout and people-pleasing to learning how to prioritize her own needs and embrace self-worth without the pressure of society’s expectations. They discuss why many women give so much of themselves in relationships and how self-love is more than pampering—it’s about how we speak to ourselves, set boundaries, and show daily compassion. Nisha also shares simple tools like journaling and mindset shifts, along with insights from her Post Divorce Self Love Reset Kit, designed to help women reconnect with themselves and move forward with confidence and clarity.Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About our Guest: Nisha Goyal is a Self-Love expert and Certified Life Coach with 25 years of experience in the art of self-devotion. She has transformed her own experience of overcoming burnout into a passion for helping high-achieving women optimize their physical, mental, and emotional well-being. She specializes in teaching women how to date themselves and cultivate unapologetic AF self-love so they can create a life of abundance. For Nisha’s amazing gift: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19QkwdsKNmXqZfOD6KyC10RyR-Rh1ec2K/view?usp=sharingTo connect with Nisha: Website: https://nishagoyal.ca/
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How To Separate Without Creating Conflict - Karen McNenny
Mardi Winder talks with mediator and divorce coach Karen McNenny, host of The Good Divorce Show Podcast, about a healthier approach to divorce that doesn’t have to become a battle. Drawing from both professional experience and her own story, Karen explains how communication, mediation, and intentional planning can reduce conflict—especially when children are involved. They discuss managing emotions, telling the kids, creating co-parenting plans, and building the right support team early in the process.Karen’s Good Divorce Experience™ focuses on helping families transition into a more stable, respectful future rather than simply ending a marriage. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.com More about Karen: A dynamic speaker with over two decades of experience commanding stages across the country, Karen brings both authenticity and authority to conversations about workplace culture, effective leadership, and employee engagement. She has moved audiences from intimate workshops to packed conferences with Karen McNenny is a mediator, divorce coach, and therapist dedicated to transforming how families navigate divorce.Through her Good Divorce Experience™, she helps couples not only get divorced but also learn how to maintain healthy post-divorce relationships, especially when children are involved. With more than 25 years of expertise, Karen focuses on co-parenting, financial planning, and relationship literacy, guiding families towards compassionate outcomes. A TEDx speaker and host of The Good Divorce Show Podcast™, Karen draws from her own divorce journey to offer hope and healing. She lives in Missoula, Montana, with her family and dog, enjoying the outdoors in the Rocky Mountains. Connect with Karen: Website: thegooddivorce.com Website: karenmcnenny.com
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Considerations With The Family Home In Divorce - Kim Costa
In this engaging episode, Mardi Winder sits down with Kim Costa, a seasoned Realtor® with Sotheby's International Realty and creator of the Wheel House Method, to explore how life transitions—especially divorce—impact our relationship with home, finances, and personal wellbeing. Drawing from her own experience of divorce and remarriage, Kim offers thoughtful perspectives on the challenges of moving and the importance of aligning one’s living environment with new life goals.The conversation offers practical advice around making housing decisions during and after divorce, highlighting the financial complexities many overlook. Kim explains how her lifestyle-based approach, inspired by tools like the Wheel of Life, helps clients evaluate not only their finances but also their emotional needs and sense of community. She discusses the importance of conducting an honest inventory of one’s current situation and encourages listeners to explore new possibilities, whether that means relocating or reassessing what truly brings joy in the home. They touch on common misunderstandings people have about keeping or selling the family home, and Kim offers strategies for testing out potential new locations, from short-term rentals to consulting local realtors about taxes and hidden costs.Throughout the episode, Mardi and Kim underscore the value of seeking trusted advice and staying open to change as a way to rediscover personal happiness. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.comAbout the Guest Kim Costa is a Top 5% Realtor® with Sotheby's International Realty and creator of The Wheel House Method—a framework designed to help women navigate divorce's biggest question: what to do about the house. With over 30 years of experience in real estate, construction, and design, plus a background as a small business controller, Kim brings both financial expertise and emotional intelligence to this vulnerable transition.Through The Wheel House Method's eight life dimensions—health, career, fun and leisure, family and friends, spirituality, romance, environment, and finance—Kim helps divorcing women evaluate whether to keep, sell, or start fresh. Her approach ensures decisions support their new chapter rather than anchor them to the past. Kim is the author of the upcoming book Live in Your Wheel House (March 24, 2026) and host of the Live in Your Wheel House podcast. For Kim’s book “Live in Your Wheel House: An Empowering Guide to Stay, Go, or Reno” got to : https://a.co/d/00Nz5Njo To connect with Kim:Website: https://lifestylefoundations.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/kimecostarealtor
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Growing Through Relationship Loss and New Beginnings - Guest, Cece Shatz
In this episode, host Mardi Winder welcomes Cece Shatz, the visionary behind NewStreamingNetwork.com and the Going Solo Network—a global media platform dedicated to supporting those navigating divorce, single life, and relationship transitions. Cece shares her own journey through divorce and the realization that community and authentic support are essential during tough personal shifts. Drawing from her experience in divorce support groups and her work as a relationship coach, she shares how the Going Solo Network grew from a single podcast into a multi-channel resource reaching audiences on radio, podcasts, live video, and streaming platforms like Roku. The network features diverse content: practical advice on rebuilding after divorce, fun lifestyle programming, and expert discussions—all aimed at helping individuals heal, grow, and embrace new possibilities.Together, Mardi and Cece discuss life lessons, breaking patterns, and the transition from focusing on others to prioritizing personal growth. They emphasize the importance of building a support team—coaches, financial planners, and strong social connections—to navigate the emotional and practical challenges of major life changes. At the heart of the conversation is a message of hope: by connecting with authentic voices and reflecting on your own journey, you can step out of the past and consciously design a future that excites you.About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About Cece Shatz, fondly known as the Doyenne of Relationship Building, is the Founder of NEWStreamingNetwork.com and WGSN-DB Going Solo Network Radio, Podcasts, and TV. A media visionary, author, and relationship coach, Cece empowers others to “Own the Mic” — helping them share their authentic voices, build meaningful connections, and inspire others to live their best lives. Through her expansive global network on TV, Podcasts and Radio - 50+ media platforms, she guides entrepreneurs, experts, creatives and listeners in transforming their stories into impact that uplifts and empowers.To connect with Cece:Email: [email protected]: https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/Website:https://www.goingsolonetwork.com/ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@WGSNDBGoingSoloNetwork
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Dealing With Addiction In Divorce - Guest, Amber Hollingsworth
Addiction adds an additional level of complexity to separation and divorce. On today's episode of UnDoing We, Mardi Winder talks with Amber Hollingsworth, a master addiction counselor and founder of Hope for Families Recovery Center. Together, they explore how addiction affects marriages, co-parenting dynamics, and personal well-being after divorce, particularly when one partner is struggling with substance use. Amber shares her own background, coming from a family surrounded by addiction, and offers insight into how those patterns often remain invisible until viewed from the outside.The discussion highlights the heavy toll addiction takes on relationships, especially for the non-addicted partner who often ends up feeling overwhelmed and unfairly seen as the “bad guy.” Amber points out that this role can become emotionally exhausting and can change a person’s sense of self, leading to what she calls “guiltzentiment”,a blend of guilt and resentment that is difficult to shake. Mardi and Amber talk candidly about the importance of self-care and resilience, acknowledging how the partner of an addicted person can become consumed by the situation, sometimes to the point of feeling addicted to the crisis itself.Amber Hollingsworth offers practical advice for managing these emotions and stresses the value of setting healthy boundaries, especially in households with children. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions.She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comAbout the Guest Amber Hollingsworth is a master addiction counselor, founder of Hope For Families Recovery Center, and creator of the YouTube channel Put The Shovel Down. With over two decades of experience, she’s helped thousands of families navigate addiction recovery using innovative, relationship-focused strategies like the Invisible Intervention. Known for her relatable, no-nonsense approach, Amber empowers families to outsmart addiction, set healthy boundaries, and rebuild trust. Her expertise and compassionate style make her a sought-after podcast guest, offering practical advice and hope to families facing the challenges of addiction.For Amber’s gift: https://www.familyrecoveryacademy.online/understanding-boundaries-in-addiction To connect with Amber: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/addictionrecoveryhope Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amber-hollingsworth-833111b8/
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Move Beyond - Post Divorce Financial Checklist - Gina Phillips
Today on UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder chats with Gina Phillips, a certified divorce financial analyst (CDFA®), to talk honestly about what happens with your finances once your divorce papers are signed. Many people expect relief after the decree is final, but as Mardi and Gina point out, there’s a whole new set of important tasks to tackle, and ignoring them can cause major headaches down the road. Gina shares her straightforward advice on everything from sorting out your mortgage and making sure your name is actually on your house, to why it’s so important to stay on top of things like updating beneficiaries and filing those critical retirement plan documents. She dives into some common mistakes people make, like assuming their insurance will just work itself out or not realizing how fast deadlines for things like health coverage or financial transfers can sneak up on you. Their conversation is packed with tips for getting a handle on your money, setting up your new financial life, and not getting caught off guard by surprise bills or legal mishaps. Gina shares a Post Divorce Financial Checklist that’s available for listeners, designed to make this rocky transition period a little smoother. If you’re worried about missing something important after your divorce, this episode is full of reassurance, smart ideas, and reminders that you really can take control of your future while building your financial confidence. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Gina Phillips is the owner of WNY Divorce Financial Advisors, LLC, where she passionately dedicates herself to empowering individuals navigating marital transitions to regain control over their financial well-being. As a skilled liaison between clients and divorce mediators and attorneys, Gina is driven by personal experience and a deep understanding of the challenges that accompany divorce. Her pursuit of certification as a Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®) demonstrates her commitment to providing comprehensive support. With over 30 years of experience in auditing and accounting fields, Gina brings a wealth of knowledge to her practice. Her certification as a CDFA® combined with her expertise enables her to offer compassionate and cost-effective assistance. Whether you are in the early stages of considering a divorce or currently navigating the complexities of the legal proceedings, Gina will guide you with empathy and expertise to ensure your transition is as smooth and financially secure as possible. For Gina’s gift, the Post-Divorce Financial Checklist: https://6214433.hs-sites.com/post-divorce To connect with Gina: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gina-phillips/ Website: https://www.wnydivorcefinancial.com/default.php Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wnydivorcefinancial
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Move Beyond Emotional Pain With New Trauma Insights
Today on UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder sits down with Estefana Johnson, a seasoned mental health clinician with over 20 years of experience working in trauma and mental health care. In this conversation, Estefana Johnson shares her journey from an unexpected start in behavioral health to becoming the Director of Clinical Training at Arise Alliance Institute, where she explores innovative and holistic approaches to healing. Together, they dive deep into the complex relationship between trauma and loss, exploring how unresolved experiences can shape our lives and even echo across generations through something called "generational data." Estefana Johnson breaks down the science behind how our brains hold onto past events, why trauma isn’t just about what happens to us but how we process it, and introduces listeners to the principles of Critical Memory Integration (CMI), a powerful method for internal healing and self-discovery. If you’ve ever wondered how trauma can linger, why we may feel stuck in old patterns, or how to start looking within for answers and real freedom, this episode is a must-listen. Get ready for practical insights, real talk about healing, and a hopeful message about the power we each hold to transform our lives. About the Host Mardi Winder is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Estefana Johnson, LCSW, brings over 20 years of experience in trauma and mental health care. She began her career as a Behavioral Health Technician in 2001 and later taught in Japan before moving into roles in residential treatment, medical social work, and clinical leadership. As Director of Clinical Training at ARISE Alliance Institute, she develops and delivers curricula in trauma-focused care and interventions like Critical Memory Integration (CMI™), while also practicing clinically at Lighthouse Psychiatry & TMS in Gilbert, Arizona. Estefana is actively involved in research on therapeutic uses of psychedelics and is passionate about advancing innovative, healing-centered approaches. A first-generation child of immigrants, she is committed to supporting foster and adoptive youth, leading programs that provide education and care rooted in resilience and recovery. To connect with Estefana: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/estefanajohnsonlcsw/
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Strategies for Blending Families After Divorce - Maria Natapov
Welcome to another episode of UnDoing We. Today, host Mardi Winder sits down with Maria Natapov, a step parenting expert and trusted adviser to those struggling with blending families in relationships post-divorce. In this conversation, Mardi and Maria dive deep into the complexities and real-life challenges of blending families after divorce, a topic that touches every parent, child, and stepparent involved. Whether you’re moving into a new relationship, blending households, or simply wanting the very best for your kids after divorce, this episode is packed with relatable stories, actionable guidance, and gentle reminders to keep self-care and empathy at the heart of your next steps.Tune in for an honest, compassionate look at what it really takes to redefine family and heal together. About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comAbout the Guest Maria Natapov is a Stepparenting Expert and Trusted Advisor to Divorce Professionals, Financial Advisors, and Parenting Coaches. Maria offers a caring and playful coaching approach, empowering clients to blend their families with joy and confidence. As a daughter of divorced immigrant parents and a stepparent herself, she understands the unique communication challenges in blended families and the importance of innovative support systems. Using her signature 4-step energy-focused process and Rapid Resolution Therapy, Maria helps stepparents and divorced parents transition from chaos to harmony. She strengthens caregivers’ values, fosters partner alignment, and builds trust with stepchildren.Maria has supported numerous families through her VIP Stepparenting Breakthrough model and her podcast, Synergistic Stepparenting. Learn more at SynergisticStepparenting.com. For Maria’s gift: Family Fusion: 6 Steps to Collaborative Co-Parenting https://SynergisticStepparenting.com/subscribe To connect with Maria : Website: https://SynergisticStepparenting.com
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Real Estate Decisions After Ending a Marriage - Kat Timpson
In today’s conversation, host Mardi Winder sits down with seasoned real estate expert Kat Timpson to tackle one of the most complex and emotional aspects of divorce: what happens to the family home. As the real estate market evolves, think fewer homes, fiercer competition, and offers well over asking price, Kat Timpson shares timely insights on navigating these shifts, especially when coupled with the added pressures of divorce.Together, Mardi and Kat break down the importance of having specialized guidance when dividing assets, avoiding common financial pitfalls, and why having the right team matters more than ever. Whether you’re wondering about refinancing, title concerns, or simply how to protect your financial future in a contentious split, this episode is packed with actionable advice and real-world scenarios. So whether you’re already in the midst of a transition or just preparing for what comes next, join us as we redefine how to make empowered decisions about your home and beyond during divorce. About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comAbout the Guest Kat Timpson is a Realtor® with Coldwell Banker Realty in New Jersey. A seasoned communicator with over 20 years of experience in media, public relations, corporate communications, community relations, and public speaking, Kat specializes in divorce real estate to help separating home and property owners figure out next steps for living spaces. Kat bases her work on her own experience as a buyer and seller many times over as well as a divorcing homeowner. Kat has been recruited to be one of the head coaches for her Brokers’ pilot coaching program and is training to become a top female public speaker.To connect with Kat: https://kattimpsonre.com/
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Dating After Divorce with Guest, Rosalind Sedacca
💖 Dating After Divorce — Join Guest Rosalind Sedacca, CDC, Divorce, Dating & Empowered Living Show Host, Divorce & Co-Parenting Coach, and Author, together with Host Mardi Adams, Divorce Coach, on UnDoing We. This insightful conversation explores how to re-enter the dating world with confidence, clarity, and emotional readiness after divorce. Learn how to heal, set healthy boundaries, and build meaningful relationships while honoring your personal growth and life transitions.Streamed on www.NEWStreamingNetwork.com.About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com More about Rosalind: Rosalind Sedacca, CDC is recognized as The Voice of Child-Centered Divorce. She is a Divorce & Co-Parenting Coach and founder of the Child-Centered Divorce Network which provides advice, programs, coaching and other valuable resources for parents who are facing, moving through or transitioning after a divorce. She is the author of How Do I Tell the Kids About The Divorce? an internationally acclaimed ebook designed to help parents get through the tough divorce talk with the best possible outcome for themselves and their children. Rosalind has created several ebooks and e-courses on co-parenting success strategies including an 8-hr Anger Management For Co-Parents Course. She also hosts the Divorce, Dating & Empowered Living Radio Show & Podcast.Learn more about Rosalind’s services at www.childcentereddivorce.com - Email [email protected]
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Understanding Social Security Rules In Divorce
This is an important episode of UnDoing We for women and men who are going through a “grey divorce”. Mardi Winder sits down with retirement expert Marcia Mantel, founder of Mantel Retirement Consulting, for an illuminating and practical conversation about one of the most critical, and often confusing, topics for people facing divorce: getting your financial affairs in order, with a special focus on what you can expect from Social Security. Marcia shares how she fell into the world of retirement planning and uncovers the surprising gaps in financial literacy that affect women and men alike.Together, Mardi and Marcia break down the essentials of Social Security—how benefits are calculated, the impact of years spent as a stay-at-home parent, and the often misunderstood rules around claiming benefits on an ex-spouse’s work history. They shed light on "spousal top ups," eligibility hurdles, common misconceptions, and address current worries about the future of Social Security, while offering reassurance based on historical precedents. If you’re feeling lost when it comes to planning for retirement after divorce, or simply want straight talk about Social Security, this episode is packed with practical insights and empowering advice for moving forward with confidence. Stay tuned for golden nuggets that every woman (and man!) should know when navigating financial independence and security beyond divorce. About the Host Mardi Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions.She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com About the Guest Marcia Mantell is the founder of her own small business, Mantell Retirement Consulting, which is celebrating 20 years this year. Marcia is known for taking the complicated retirement,Social Security, and Medicare rules and translating them into language we can all better understand. And she’s the author of 4 retirement books, a long-time blogger, a media columnist, and a podcast guest. Whether writing about or talking about retirement, she takes the opportunity to share as many helpful tips and tricks as possible. It’s all about making a successful transition into retirement. To connect with Marcia and access her complimentary resources: https://boomerretirementbriefs.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marciamantell/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=boomer%20retirement%20briefs
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Marriage Crisis Management Explained - Dr. Becky Whetstone
In this episode, Mardi Winder sits down with Dr. Becky Whetstone for an honest and down-to-earth chat about what really happens when a marriage is on the rocks. Dr. Becky Whetstone, who’s open about her own history of four marriages, shares her personal story, full of ups, downs, and real-life lessons. She explains how her own tough experiences pushed her to become a therapist dedicated to helping others through the messier moments of relationships and divorce.They talk about that crucial moment when someone in a marriage makes the call to stay or go, and how those first reactions can set the tone for everything that follows. Dr. Becky offers practical advice on how to figure out whether your marriage still has a chance, and she’s clear about the situations, like abuse or infidelity, when it’s time to walk away for good. The conversation covers what happens emotionally when divorce starts looming, and the ways people can get stuck in “divorce fantasy” thinking. Throughout, both Mardi and Dr. Becky stress how important it is not to rush, but instead to make thoughtful decisions, especially for families with kids. Listeners get plenty of straightforward, compassionate tips for handling everything from those tricky first conversations to staying calm in the chaos. It’s a genuine look at the realities of divorce, filled with hope that even hard endings can be managed with care, honesty, and respect. More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/About the Guest Becky Whetstone, PhD, is a Marriage and Family Therapist and Life Coach specializing in marriage crisis counseling. Based in Arkansas, she developed Managed Separation (MS), an intervention guiding separated couples with purpose and timelines. Inspired by her own marriage crisis, Dr. Whetstone created tools to help couples navigate turmoil. A former journalist, she has authored the book, “I (Think) I Want Out”, aiming to reduce marital chaos and foster healthy relationships. To connect with Dr. Becky: Website: https://marriagecrisismanager.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/relationshipcrisismanager/ X: https://x.com/DoctorBecky
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Spotting Financial Red Flags During Divorce - Tracy Coenen
Today, Mardi Winder welcomes forensic accountant Tracy Coenen, who has spent more than 25 years investigating financial fraud and uncovering the secrets hidden in divorce finances. Tracy brings her wealth of experience to the table, sharing why what you don’t know about the money in your marriage can absolutely hurt you during divorce, and how you can take proactive steps to protect yourself. If you’re feeling overwhelmed by the thought of navigating joint accounts, credit cards, or potential “money shenanigans,” you’re not alone. Tracy explains how financial confusion is common and nothing to be ashamed of, especially if you weren’t the one managing the money in your relationship.She breaks down her practical approach to taking charge with her Divorce Money Guide, designed to put powerful tools and knowledge into the hands of everyday people, no advanced math skills required. Together, Tracy and Mardi dig into the common tactics used to hide assets, how to recognize signs of secret accounts, and what documents you need to gather when divorce is on the horizon. They touch on important topics like home equity lines of credit, early withdrawals from retirement accounts, and even cryptocurrency, debunking myths and sharing how to spot clues in financial records. If you suspect money is being hidden or moved, or you’re just trying to get your financial bearings, you’ll find step-by-step guidance and a reassuring message: you can take control and secure your future. Plus, Tracy Coenen shares resources, including free tools and online courses, to help you get started, and offers advice on when it makes sense to invest in a forensic accountant or handle things yourself. About the Guest Tracy Coenen has been investigating fraud for more than 25 years, but she didn’t always want to be a forensic accountant. With a dream of one day being a prison warden, Tracy went to Marquette University in Milwaukee, WI to get a criminology degree. A class on financial crime investigations reminded her how much she loved Encyclopedia Brown books as a kid. She continued her criminology degree, but added accounting and economics courses so she could become a CPA… and here Tracy is, finding money in cases of corporate fraud, high net worth divorce, and other financial shenanigans. For Tracy’s complimentary resource: https://divorcemoneyguide.com/plan/ To connect with Tracy: https://www.divorcemoneyguide.com
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Understanding Highly Sensitive People - Sue Bruckner
Welcome to another episode of UnDoing We. Today, we're diving into the world of highly sensitive people, and what it really means, why it isn't a diagnosis, and how it shapes the experience of divorce and relationships of all kinds. Joining host Mardi Winder is special guest Sue Bruckner, who specializes in supporting highly sensitive individuals through life’s most challenging transitions.In this thought-provoking conversation, Sue Bruckner explains how being highly sensitive is a biological trait, not a weakness, and breaks down the key characteristics using the acronym DOES: Deeply feeling, Overstimulation/Overwhelm, Emotional responsiveness, and Sensitivity to subtleties. The episode explores how these traits influence empathy and boundaries, both in personal relationships and the workplace, and why learning self-compassion is essential for thriving as a highly sensitive person. Together, Mardi and Sue discuss practical strategies for creating healthy boundaries, embracing self-love, and rewriting the narrative for sensitive individuals navigating divorce, career challenges, and life as a whole.Whether you identify as highly sensitive or are seeking to better understand someone who does, this episode is packed with insight, encouragement, and helpful advice to empower you on your journey.About the Guest: Sue Bruckner, a Licensed Professional Counselor turned Holistic Relationship Coach, is the founder of With Intention, a transformative personal development company created specifically for sensitive women who experience life deeply and often find their depth undervalued in relationships.After walking through the fire of an unhealthy marriage, navigating a challenging divorce, and facing unexpected widowhood, Sue transformed these profound experiences into her life's calling. Sue's signature program, Tribe Rising, is an intimate online sanctuary where sensitive women navigating relationship transitions find not just healing but also profound transformation and authentic sisterhood. This unique membership platform operates at the community, group, and individual levels, meeting women exactly where they are on their journey. Through a powerful blend of growth mindset principles, spiritual awareness, and positive psychology, Sue guides women to transform emotional chaos into the intentional creation of their next chapter—where relationship endings become the most profound beginnings they could imagine. For Sue’s gift Core Value Inventory: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/et5zo892qvTo connect with Sue: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suebruckner/ Community: https://wonderful-dawn-34642.myflodesk.com/i4jpplh08t
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Strategies for A Goal Focused Divorce - Dr. Robin Buckley
In this episode, host Mardi Winder sits down with acclaimed clinical psychologist and coach, Dr. Robin Buckley, to unravel the complexities of divorce through a different lens; one that’s strategic, goal-driven, and future-focused. Dr. Robin Buckley shares how her journey from clinical therapy to coaching opened up new possibilities for helping people proactively address challenges in their relationships. Unlike therapy, which looks to the past for healing, coaching begins in the present, guiding individuals towards their desired futures.Together, Mardi and Dr. Robin discuss why this approach can make a powerful difference, especially for those navigating the emotional storm and decision-making hurdles of a divorce. Through personal anecdotes, practical advice, and candid stories, they reveal the importance of controlling our brains’ reactions to stress, prioritizing strategic thinking over impulsive responses, and defining clear outcomes for the divorce process.The conversation deep-dives into the concept of mission statements for couples, helping to align intentions and minimize conflict, whether the goal is effective co-parenting, maintaining a respectful friendship, or simply parting ways as amicably as possible. This episode is not just for those experiencing divorce but also for coaches, therapists, and anyone seeking healthier paths through relationship transitions. Discover why goal-focused divorce is about more than ending a marriage, it’s about shaping what comes next with clarity, purpose, and resilience. About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce.Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adams Connect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/About the Guest Dr. Robin Buckley holds a PhD in clinical psychology with specialized training in cognitive behavioral methodology and executive coaching. Through her data-driven, strategic coaching model, she helps individuals, couples, and organizations achieve personal and professional goals. Her expertise has been featured by Entrepreneur, Chief, Nike, and TED. Robin's coaching empowers clients to move beyond insight into actionable, lasting success.
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Create Intentional Focus In Parenting - Guest, Maria Riegger
🎙️ Mardi Winder sits down with Maria Riegger to explore the unique challenges high-achieving parents face in today’s fast-paced, competitive world. Together, they discuss how to balance career demands with family life while fostering healthy, meaningful relationships at home. Maria shares practical strategies for reducing parenting stress, managing social media pressures, and supporting teens in developing independence and emotional resilience.The conversation also highlights the importance of reparenting your inner child — learning to nurture yourself so you can better guide your children. Through mindfulness techniques, emotional awareness, and intentional communication, parents can create calmer, more connected homes. This empowering episode offers perspective, reassurance, and real-life tools for modern parents seeking balance, growth, and stronger family bonds. Streamed on NEWStreamingNetwork.com. About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adamsConnect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/About the Guest Maria Riegger is based in the Washington, DC area. She is a banking/corporate attorney as well as author and TEDx speaker. She is a certified Inner Child Reparenting Coach and NLP practitioner. A rocky childhood, including the death of a parent, led Maria to consider how to be a better parent in a crazy world. In short, more laughs and positive connections and less dictating and criticizing.Parents should parent with the child's particular needs in mind, rather than the parents' ego needs. In helping parents work on their self-improvement, Maria discovered themes of procrastination, people pleasing, and poor boundaries. Maria draws on her legal and corporate background and her trauma-informed training to speak on topics including optimizing productivity, defeating procrastination, and eliminating defensive behaviors to help professionals prevent burnout and achieve their goals while raising healthy, independent kids. Contemporary romance and romantic suspense, with plenty of sarcasm.Connect with Maria: [email protected] https://lawschoolheretic.com/
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Unlocking Joy After Divorce Through Creativity - Guest, Jenny Elinora
In this conversation, Mardi Winder sits down with Jenny Eleanora to explore how creativity and play can change the experience of going through divorce and support healing and joy beyond it. Jenny shares her own journey, describing how the early part of her life was marked by depression and anxiety, and how her divorce became a turning point. With the encouragement of a “creative champion,” Jenny began to rediscover joy by reconnecting with creativity in every area of her life—from making music to starting a business—and learned that play doesn’t have to be reserved for artists or after responsibilities are finished.Mardi and Jenny offer practical ways for listeners to find small sparks of joy, such as micro moments of play and making room each day for simple, enjoyable activities. Jenny’s advice extends to both adults and parents, encouraging the integration of play and creative energy into daily routines and relationships. She highlights the importance of giving ourselves permission to experience joy, even when it feels awkward or unfamiliar at first, and explains how these small steps can eventually lead to greater relief and personal expansion.Together, they discuss how play and creativity, especially after divorce, create opportunities to rediscover one’s true self beyond traditional roles. Jenny shares the impact of personal losses and the inspiration she found in healing and solo creative expression, reminding listeners that authenticity can feel risky but is deeply rewarding. The episode is an honest, encouraging conversation about finding your own path to joy and creativity, and being a positive example for children during transitions. About the Guest Jenny Elinora is a creativity empowerment coach and musician dedicated to helping women over 50 rediscover their voices and live their creative dreams. With decades of performance experience and a deep understanding of how trauma impacts creativity, Jenny’s mission is to inspire women to boldly reclaim their creative power. Her own journey reflects the challenges and triumphs of the women she helps. Silenced by early criticism and life’s traumas,Jenny didn’t find her voice until age 33 and only released her first solo project at 50. Along the way, she’s written, performed, recorded and produced 30+ original songs, and earned recognition such as Vermont's Tammie Award for Best Rock Album. Through her holistic approach— somatic practices, sound healing, community support and creative coaching— Jenny has helped 100+ women overcome self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and creative stagnation to help them reconnect with their authentic self and share their brilliance with the world. For Jenny’s gift: https://meditation.growyourwholevoice.com To connect with Jenny:Website: https://growyourwholevoice.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jelinoraAbout the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce.Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adams Connect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/
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What To Expect In High-Conflict Cases In Family Court
In this episode, Mardi Winder has an important conversation with Dr. Alana Sharps, who brings both personal experience and professional expertise to the complex world of high-conflict divorce and child custody. Dr. Sharps shares her own story of navigating a challenging custody battle after escaping a long-term abusive relationship, highlighting the loneliness and confusion that often accompanies the family court process.She talks openly about how difficult it can be when neither friends, family, nor even attorneys fully understand the emotional turmoil involved. Dr. Sharps explains how her own struggles led her to become a coach for others in similar situations, offering insight, compassion, and practical guidance to those feeling lost or overwhelmed. Together, Mardi and Dr. Sharps discuss the different roles that attorneys and coaches play in the legal process, the business realities of family court, and how important it is for clients to manage expectations. They emphasize that while attorneys provide legal expertise, emotional support often comes best from those who have truly walked the same path.The discussion also touches on the importance of self-care, therapy (especially trauma-informed approaches), and the empowerment that comes with understanding the court system. Dr. Sharps shares an inspiring success story of a client who, after learning to navigate court procedures on her own, found renewed confidence and happiness. She also offers a glimpse into her book, which draws on her personal experiences and aims to break the silence around life behind closed doors in challenging marriages. This episode provides reassurance, practical advice, and hope for anyone facing the obstacles of high-conflict divorce. About the Guest Dr. Alana Sharps, founder of SurThrive Tribe, carries a wealth of experience as both a High Conflict Divorce and Child Custody Consultant and a Best Selling Author. Her expertise extends beyond her professional achievements; it's rooted in her personal triumphs. Having navigated through the complexities of a toxic marriage entwined with narcissistic abuse, Alana emerged as a committed advocate for those facing similar trials. Her story is one of transformation—from a victim to an empowered survivor—and it fuels her dedication to guiding others through the challenging landscapes of domestic strife.To connect with Alana: Website: https://www.surthrivetribe.com About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adams Connect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/
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Choosing Family Law Attorneys, Alimony, And Your Divorce
In this episode, host Mardi Winder-Adams is joined by family law expert Sandra Fava for a helpful chat about two important issues in divorce. Their conversation covers important information on picking the right divorce attorney and cutting through all the confusion about alimony. Ever scrolled through endless attorney bios on a big law firm’s site and wondered if bigger really is better? Sandra talks about what it’s actually like working with large firms versus smaller, boutique ones, including the pros, cons, and how to find someone who truly “gets” you and your case.Mardi and Sandra also talk about why it’s so important to find a lawyer whose personality and approach to divorce match your needs. If you’ve heard a lot of wild stories about alimony, maybe from Aunt Millie’s divorce saga or well-meaning friends, you’ll want to listen in to the second part of the conversation. Sandra busts some common myths about permanent alimony, explains how the rules have changed, and gives advice on what really matters when it comes to spousal support today. Spoiler Alert: Your situation is unique, so don’t assume your outcome will look like anyone else’s. About the Guest Sandra Fava is an experienced family law attorney who is known for her ability to provide clear, practical advice while also offering unwavering support during challenging times. She is a skilled negotiator and litigator, but she also believes in exploring alternative dispute resolution methods, such as mediation, whenever possible. Through Fava Law, Sandra is proud to offer a client-centered approach that focuses on open communication, transparency, and achieving the best possible outcome for her clients.To connect with Sandra: Website: https://www.favalawnj.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandrafava/ About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.com NEWStreamingNetwork.com – newstreamingnetwork.com
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Elevate Your Skills And Transform Your Income - Wendy Vaughan
In this episode, Mardi Winder-Adam chats with Wendy Vaughan about what it feels like to tackle a big career shift while dealing with divorce. Wendy, who has been through divorce herself, shares what it's like when life suddenly feels uncertain and you start doubting if you're really cut out for taking your side hustle full-time or making a big leap in your work life.Wendy's advice is refreshingly straightforward. She suggests finding some quiet space—whether that's a walk in nature or just a cozy corner at home—to really think about what you're good at, what you enjoy doing, and what people tend to come to you for help with. She explains why it's so important not to try selling your ideas or services to everyone but instead focus on the people who value what you offer. Wendy shares great examples, like how a makeover might mean everything to a model but almost nothing to someone who doesn't care much about makeup. There's also a real talk about how lowering your prices only makes things harder—not easier—and can make you start resenting your work. Wendy and Mardi talk about how finding the right audience builds your confidence and can lead to real success, even during tough times. By the end, listeners are left with practical steps and, just as important, a sense of reassurance that you can build something meaningful for yourself after a big life change. About the Guest Wendy Vaughan is a Business Coach with 29 years of business development experience. Having made her first million by the age of 30 as an entrepreneur, and helped others to generate over $14.8 million in revenue. Wendy is passionate about helping heart-centered experts make the biggest impact they envision and build businesses they love. To get Wendy's gift: https://passiontosixfigures.com/six-figure-business-blueprint To connect with Wendy: Website: https://impact-makercoaching.com/ Website: https://www.predictablesalesresults.com/ About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: divorcecoach4women.comNEWStreamingNetwork.com – newstreamingnetwork.com
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Parenting After The Loss Of A Young Child - Michele Benyo
Today, Mardi Winder talks with her friend and guest expert Michele Benyo about the layered experience of grief, especially for families who have lost a child. Michele, a Certified Grief Recovery Specialist® and founder of Good Grief Parenting, shares how her personal journey after the loss of her young son shaped her dedication to supporting bereaved siblings and their parents. Through her story, she highlights the challenges of being both a grieving parent and caretaker to a surviving child, emphasizing how children process loss in unique ways that often go unnoticed.Michele explains that well-meaning adults often try to shield children from grief, but this can leave kids alone with hard feelings and confusion. She advocates for honest, age-appropriate conversations and using clear language around death, as well as including the child in family grieving and remembrance. Her approach calls for recognizing that grief remains with children as they grow, but with guidance and connection, families can still nurture hope and happiness.Throughout their conversation, Mardi and Michele discuss practical ways parents and teachers can support grieving children, such as sharing information with schools and normalizing discussions about loss within the family. Michele’s work offers reassurance that even after profound loss, families can honor their loved one's memory and continue living forward. About Michele: Michele Benyo is a Certified Grief Recovery Specialist®, early childhood educator and parent coach, and the founder of Good Grief Parenting. After her 6-year-old son died of cancer, her 3-year-old daughter said, “Mommy, half of me is gone.” This heartbreaking statement defined Michele’s life purpose. Her mission is twofold: to help parents through the unimaginable challenges of parenting while grieving the death of a child, and to equip parents to meet the unique needs of a child who has lost a sibling in the early childhood years. The desire of Michele’s heart is to see families live forward after loss toward a future bright with possibilities and even joy. To connect with Michele: Website: www.goodgriefparenting.comAbout the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce.Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adamsConnect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/
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Raising Resilient Teens Through Family Changes - Nellie Harden
The teen parent relationship can be difficult, and divorce and other family changes can make it even more complicated. In this episode, host Mardi Winder is joined by family strategist and youth mentor Nellie Harden for a compelling conversation that dives deep into the nuanced world of parenting through transition, whether that’s the normal challenges of adolescence or the difficult experience of divorce.Based on years of experience and parenting her own girls, Nellie explores why self-worth can be such a struggle for girls and young women, even in loving homes. She breaks down the important developmental shifts that occur as children move from childhood to their teenage years, what Nellie calls the great transition, and explains how parents can reposition themselves from being the director of their child’s life to a mentor and guide who fosters independence and trust. The conversation addresses some of the most delicate issues facing divorced or co-parenting families, including how much to share with your kids about adult conflicts, how to avoid putting children in the middle, and how to preserve their relationships with both parents and extended family members. Nellie offers practical strategies, like establishing regular one-on-one time with each child, being intentionally vulnerable about your own challenges (without unloading adult problems), and mastering the art of “dropping the rope” to side-step power struggles. About the Guest Nellie Harden is a mother of 4 daughters, former worth chaser, trauma survivor, and an author and speaker in the space of Family Life & Leadership. She focuses on helping women build a foundation of worth, esteem and confidence to live the life they were created for. Her career has spanned from humpbacks to humans and includes decades studying personal, family, faith, and leadership development. When Nellie is not writing and speaking, she loves being outside with her crazy #happyharden crew and adventuring through all life has to offer.For Nellie’s gift: https://www.nellieharden.com/resources To connect with Nellie: Website- https://www.nellieharden.comAbout the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adamsConnect with our channel - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/
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Simple Steps To Finding Love After Divorce - Ry Duong
Getting back into the dating world after divorce can be a scary process, but it doesn’t have to be. Today, Mardi Winder sits down with Ry Duong to explore Ry’s remarkable story of resilience, healing, and empowerment after leaving an unhealthy marriage and coping with profound personal loss. Ry shares her unique background, tracing her journey from a Thai refugee camp after her family fled the Cambodian genocide to building a life in Canada. She explains how the loss of her sister to depression, paired with the end of a long marriage, became the turning point that inspired her to create Eternal Love, a company dedicated to helping singles find love and confidence.Ry and Mardi talk candidly about the experience of rediscovering yourself after divorce, and the importance of choosing happiness, which Ry explores further in her new book. They discuss the challenge of losing your identity in a relationship, especially when cultural expectations encourage self-sacrifice, and how self-acceptance and unconditional love begin with being kind to yourself, flaws and all.The conversation covers practical ways of setting healthy boundaries and recognizing personal tendencies, such as over-giving, especially in the context of new relationships after divorce. Ry offers thoughtful advice on distinguishing between accepting a partner’s imperfections and excusing harmful behavior, emphasizing self-awareness and non-negotiable values. Listen in to find out more about loving yourself, loving others, and finding a partner that is aligned with what you are looking for in your next relationship. About the Guest: Ry Duong is the Founder of EternaLove and Author of Choose You, Choose Happiness. A passionate Relationship Coach with a background in Social Work, Ry has helped countless individuals and couples break free from toxic patterns and create lasting, meaningful love. Her signature programs boast a 96% success rate, guiding clients toward relationships rooted in passion, joy, and authenticity. After leaving a 17-year toxic relationship and losing her sister to depression, Ry turned her pain into purpose—founding EternaLove to help others heal, grow, and attract love by becoming their truest selves. Her book reflects her core belief: "When you choose yourself, you teach the world how to love you." Outside of coaching, Ry enjoys beach walks, gardening, and staying active, fully embracing the beauty of the present moment. Connect with Ry: Website: https://eternalove.net/ For Ry’s gift of a book excerpt: https://cychexcerpt.now.site/About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce.Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adams NEWStreamingNetwork.com – newstreamingnetwork.com
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Friends, Relatives, Emotional Vampires, and Your Divorce
n this solo episode, Mardi Winder takes a heartfelt and honest look at what really happens to our friendships and family connections during divorce, which is a topic that often gets swept under the rug. Drawing on both her own experience and what she’s seen with her divorce coaching clients, Mardi talks about the complicated emotions and surprising realities that come with shifting from “we” to “me.” She explains that for many people, the loss or distance of friends during divorce isn’t personal, but more about the other person’s own discomfort, beliefs, or even fear about their own relationships.Mardi shares how the landscape of support was different when she went through her divorce years ago, and how today’s public-facing online lives can sometimes add to feelings of isolation, even when it looks like we’re surrounded by people. She explores why some friends seem to disappear just when you need support most, reminding listeners that not everyone knows how to show up, and sometimes they just can’t. Mardi encourages you not to chase after those who pull away, suggesting this might be the right time to clear out relationships that aren’t authentic or supportive.She talks about evaluating who really belongs in your inner circle, and not being afraid to let go of “fair-weather friends.” Mardi also gets real about those people who love drama, often called the “chaos cheerleaders” or “emotional vampires”, who show up during crises like divorce and feed off the turmoil. She offers practical red flags for recognizing these types and talks about protecting your emotional energy by keeping firm boundaries and not oversharing.This episode is ultimately about finding your footing when your personal world feels turned upside down. Mardi’s advice is relatable, warm, and practical, reminding you that, even if your support system changes during divorce, you have the right, and the ability, to build a circle that’s genuinely there for you. Connect with Mardi: [email protected] https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/team-1/mari-winder-adams
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Divorce, Financial Planning and Emotions Kaki Perdue
Mardi Winder-Adams talks with Kaki Perdue, a financial planner dedicated to helping clients navigate the complexities of post-divorce finances with clarity and intention. Kaki explains what it means to work with a fiduciary and highlights the importance of understanding how various advisors are compensated. They stress that a fiduciary is legally bound to put a client’s best interests ahead of their own, which can offer transparency and peace of mind, especially during significant transitions like divorce.Throughout their conversation, Mardi and Kaki discuss practical strategies for managing finances after divorce, from prioritizing immediate needs like establishing a robust emergency fund to creating realistic, forward-looking spending plans. Kaki offers thoughtful guidance around handling a sudden lump sum settlement, focusing on aligning investments with life goals and avoiding unnecessary risk, particularly for short-term needs.The conversation touches on the emotional challenges often present after divorce, including the temptation of “revenge spending”, and underscores the value of recognizing these emotions without letting them dictate financial decisions. The episode closes with advice on managing credit card debt and communicating with creditors, reassuring those in transition that support and solutions are available. This discussion is a valuable resource for anyone looking to rebuild their financial foundation and move forward after divorce with confidence and intention. About the Guest Kaki is an advice-only financial planner. She worked for a CPA firm for 10+ years where she also led the mentoring program. Kaki then spent 6 years as a Chief Financial Officer. Kaki launched Look Both Ways Financial in 2023 as an advice-only financial planning firm. Her practice is focused on teaching and she wants her clients to feel Safe, Strong and Secure with their own money. Kaki is a Certified Financial Planner and a Certified Public Accountant. To connect with Kaki: Website: www.lookbothwaysfinancial.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kakip/
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Reverse Mortgages and Homeownership Options - Laura Phillips
In this conversation, Mardi Winder-Adams is joined by Laura Phillips, Licensed Reverse Mortgage Specialist, for an informative discussion about reverse mortgages and the many misconceptions that surround them. Laura, with her extensive experience guiding seniors through financial options, begins by clarifying what a reverse mortgage is and its origins as a government-backed product designed to support older homeowners. Together, they address common myths, including concerns about home ownership and the risks of losing property.Laura explains how reverse mortgages work, noting the unique advantage of allowing seniors to access their home’s equity without monthly payments. She compares reverse mortgages to home equity lines of credit, outlining the practical benefits and conditions of each. Throughout the conversation, Mardi and Laura emphasize the importance of understanding individual goals—whether that’s staying in a cherished home, planning for healthcare needs, or preserving the family estate. Clear explanations and caring guidance make this an inviting resource for anyone considering options in later life or supporting aging loved ones. Laura highlights not just the mechanics, but also the peace of mind that planning can bring.About the Guest Laura Phillips is a Licensed Reverse Mortgage Specialist dedicated to guiding clients through the HECM/Reverse loan process so they feel confident about their 30-year financial strategy. With 25+ years in real estate lending, she understands a home is more than a house—it’s a central part of life. Licensed in Colorado, Arizona, California, and Florida, she specializes in FHA HECM and proprietary Jumbo Reverse loans. As a Broker, she works with several primary lenders, offering solutions to enhance cash flow, preserve retirement assets, or purchase a new home that meets future needs. Married 35+ years, a mother of two daughters, and guardian of a spirited King Shepherd, Laura proudly calls Colorado home.Connect with Laura: Website: lauraphillips.com About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce.Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.com NEWStreamingNetwork.com – newstreamingnetwork.com
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Hit Reset and Rediscover Who You Are with Kristin Carey
This episode is all about developing a mindset of transformation during divorce. Mardi Winder-Adams connects with Kirstin Carey, who shares her deeply personal story of transformation sparked by her experiences with chronic illness, career shifts, and ultimately, divorce. Kirstin recounts how her life, once filled with frequent travel and public speaking, was interrupted by health challenges like celiac disease and Hashimoto’s. These physical setbacks led her to the difficult realization that her marriage, though outwardly perfect, was leaving her emotionally unfulfilled.Coming from a large Irish Catholic family that discouraged divorce, Kirstin describes the intense inner conflict and the courageous choice to prioritize her own well-being. Kirstin’s journey did not stop at healing herself physically. She explains how recognizing the connection between emotional misalignment and physical health became her catalyst for change, prompting her to change careers and, down the road, support other women through their own transitions.She built a successful wellness program, ultimately guiding women to address both physical symptoms and underlying emotional needs. Many found themselves making significant changes, from leaving unhealthy relationships to embracing new career paths. Throughout the conversation, Mardi and Kirstin explore how society's expectations and the opinions of friends can muddy decision-making during pivotal times, especially for women. Kirstin encourages trusting one’s own instincts and nurturing personal vision, likening transformation to the journey of a butterfly. Their discussion offers validation, practical wisdom, and hope for anyone standing at a crossroads, considering what it means to truly honor oneself through major life changes.About the Guest Kirstin Carey a neuroresilience specialist and serial entrepreneur who has built multiple six- and seven-figure businesses—brick-and-mortar and online. After leaving her first marriage and healing from two autoimmune conditions, she learned firsthand that success means nothing if burnout takes over. Now, Kirstin helps high achievers master sales, resilience, and balance. With 30+ years of experience, she know this: if selling feels hard, you’re doing it wrong. Let’s change that.To connect with Kirstin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstincarey/ About the Host Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, credentialed mediator, and international speaker. With over 30 years of experience, she helps people navigate conflict, manage divorce challenges, and create positive transitions. She is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected]: divorcecoach4women.comNEWStreamingNetwork.com – newstreamingnetwork.com
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Tools For Navigating Life’s Hardest Moments - Melissa Deally
Mardi Winder-Adams sits down with integrative health practitioner Melissa Deally to explore a more comprehensive approach to healing, especially relevant for individuals experiencing divorce and major life changes. Melissa shares how her work has evolved from focusing on physical symptoms to recognizing the powerful impact of the mind, emotions, and spirit on overall wellbeing. She explains her realization that many people struggle to follow wellness protocols not because of a lack of willpower, but due to unconscious childhood programming that shapes adult behaviors.Melissa introduces the idea of addressing all four bodies—the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual—to foster deep, lasting healing. She discusses how symptoms often appear in the physical body only after issues have moved through the other three bodies, and emphasizes the importance of tending to suppressed emotions and mental habits with compassionate tools. The conversation also covers the different roles of the conscious and unconscious mind, highlighting how powerful change can occur when we access the often-overlooked parts of our mental landscape.Both Mardi and Melissa reflect on how trauma, whether acute or chronic, can become deeply embedded, affecting reactions and decision-making during stressful periods like divorce. They touch on the benefits of practices such as timeline therapy, which allows people to release stuck emotions without having to relive painful experiences repeatedly. Throughout, the discussion underscores the value of teaching these skills early in life, making healing and resilience more accessible for everyone, including children.About the Guest: Melissa Deally is an Integrative Mind-Body Health Practitioner, Trainer of NLP, Time Line Therapy®, Hypnotherapy and Magnified Healing®, dedicated to helping clients detox and heal their physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual bodies. With a fully virtual practice, she serves clients worldwide. Melissa is also the co-founder of the *Amplify Impact Academy*, where she trains others in mind-body healing modalities to expand her impact.An international speaker and five-time best-selling author, Melissa hosts the award-winning *"Don’t Wait For Your Wake-Up Call!"* podcast, ranked in the top 2% globally by *Listen Notes* and recognized with the *2024 Women in Podcasting* award. When not working with clients, Melissa is either outdoors with her daughters, skiing or hiking, or dedicating her time to her non-profit, *Girls Matter*, which focuses on keeping girls in school in Uganda and Kenya, breaking the cycle of poverty one girl, one family, one village at a time.To connect with Melissa: Email: [email protected] YGHJ Website: https://yourguidedhealthjourney.com/ Amplify Impact Academy Website: https://amplifyimpactacademy.comMore about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life.Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience.Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/NEWStreamingNetwork.com - https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/
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Attachment Styles And Relationship Patterns - Mara Palermo
This week on UnDoing We, host Mardi Winder-Adams sits down with Mara Palermo to unpack the world of attachment styles and the significant influence they have on our relationships as adults. Mara begins by explaining the four main attachment styles, anxious, dismissive avoidant, fearful avoidant (or disorganized), and secure, and shares how these patterns stem from early childhood experiences with caregivers. The conversation sheds light on how these styles are not fixed diagnoses, but rather frameworks for understanding our emotional reactions and behaviors in close relationships.Together, Mardi and Mara explore how these attachment styles manifest, especially in the realm of dating and long-term partnerships. They discuss the common cycles that form, such as the push-pull dynamic between anxious and avoidant individuals, and how these can cause patterns of misunderstanding and frustration. The importance of self-awareness and self-soothing techniques is highlighted as a way to begin shifting towards a more secure attachment, even for those who have spent years in less healthy patterns.Mara’s practical insights make this a conversation that is supportive and hopeful. You will come away with an understanding that change is possible and that becoming aware of our own attachment style is a powerful first step toward building more fulfilling and balanced relationships. This episode offers useful tools for anyone who has noticed persistent challenges in their relationships and is ready to make positive changes.https://www.newstreamingnetwork.com/About the Guest Mara Palermo is a relationship coach specializing in helping high-achievers break free from anxious and avoidant attachment patterns to create secure, healthy, and fulfilling relationships. With a signature framework focused on identity, balance, communication, boundaries, and intimacy, Mara guides clients toward deep self-awareness and emotional freedom. Known for her down-to-earth approach, she empowers individuals to stop chasing love and start letting it in. Her transformative coaching helps clients cultivate self-worth and build authentic connections. For a free attachment style quiz and more insights, you can connect with Mara on social media or her website.To connect with Mara: Website: www.marapalermo.comMore about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life.Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience.Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/
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Recognizing Narcissistic Patterns - Stacey Sanderson
Mardi Winder-Adams sits down with Stacey Sanderson to explore the often misunderstood world of narcissism, especially as it relates to divorce and recovery. Stacey, drawing from her expertise in psychology, sets the record straight on what truly defines narcissistic personality disorder, distinguishing it from other types of difficult behavior, and highlights the complexity surrounding its diagnosis and how frequently the term is misused in today’s conversations, particularly in the context of divorce.Their discussion addresses the confusion and challenges that arise when dealing with a narcissistic partner, explaining not only the clinical traits of narcissistic behavior but also why these individuals act the way they do during relationship breakdowns. Stacey provides clarity on behaviors often mislabeled as narcissistic, such as gaslighting and manipulation, and emphasizes that many actions come from a deep-seated need for validation rather than malice or strategy. More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life.Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/About the Guest Stacey Sanderson is a Registered Psychotherapist and published author with over 25 years experience in helping people recover from narcissistic wounding. She offers heart-centered, holistic ways of regaining your power and identity. Stacey’s book “Heart Wide Open: A Holistic Guide To Self Recovery From Narcissistic Wounding can be found on Amazon at: https://a.co/d/26XHOyETo connect with Stacey: Website: https://www.staceysanderson.ca/
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Divorce Decision-Making: How to Move Past Indecision and Find Clarity
Divorce Decision-Making: How to Move Past Indecision and Find Clarity - Guest Jackie Pilossoph In this week on UnDoing We, Mardi Winder-Adams sits down with Jackie Pilossoph, founder of Divorced Girl Smiling, to explore some of the central misconceptions and opportunities surrounding divorce. Jackie discusses the concept of building a “divorce team,” highlighting that while hiring multiple professionals might seem costly at first, it can actually save both money and stress in the long run.She explains how assembling a group that includes not just an attorney, but also a mediator, financial advisor, real estate agent, and mortgage specialist, allows for well-rounded guidance. Each expert brings a different perspective, ensuring that decisions are made with insight into legal, financial, and practical matters—rather than relying on a single source for everything. The conversation also turns to the surprising benefits that can come from divorce, particularly for women.Jackie shares stories of growth, independence, and newfound confidence that emerge after navigating the initial pain and challenges. She acknowledges the fears many women face, such as returning to work or managing a household alone, and reassures listeners by sharing personal experiences and those of others who discovered strengths they didn’t know they had. Practical tips, like the importance of finding a trustworthy handyman or seeking affordable education to boost career prospects, are sprinkled throughout their discussion.Throughout the episode, both Mardi and Jackie approach divorce as not merely an end, but a possible turning point for positive change. The conversation is honest yet encouraging, offering listeners reassurance and practical wisdom as they consider their own paths forward. Jackie Pilossoph is the founder of Divorced Girl Smiling, the company that connects people facing divorce with trusted, vetted divorce professionals. Divorced Girl Smiling (DGS) is also a podcast, website and mobile app.Pilossoph, who holds a Masters Degree in Broadcast journalism was a TV reporter, as well as a Chicago Tribune columnist. Her weekly column, LOVE ESSENTIALLY was syndicated all over the U.S. Pilossoph was also a Huffington Post divorce blogger.To connect with Jackie: Website: divorcedgirlsmiling.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/divorced_girl_smiling/
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The Importance Of Financial Knowledge During Divorce Victoria Kirilloff
The Importance Of Financial Knowledge During Divorce — Don’t navigate divorce blindfolded! Join Victoria Kirilloff, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®), as she shares crucial insights into managing money matters during divorce. From protecting your financial future to avoiding costly mistakes, Victoria breaks it all down. She’s joined by Host Mardi Winder-Adams, CDC® Divorce Coach and high-conflict transition expert, for an empowering episode of UnDoing We on NEWStreamingNetwork.com.More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ More about Victoria: Victoria Kirilloff, CDFA®, NCPM®, CDS®, was at a crossroads in a decade-long, financially entangled relationship that had turned toxic. To find her way out, she leveraged her background in financial analysis, creating the first Global Settlement Proposal and divorce report. This helped her and her partner reach a peaceful separation, sparking an idea: she could help others navigate divorce with financial clarity and empowerment.Victoria went on to found Divorce Analytics, a firm dedicated to making the financial side of divorce transparent and productive. By focusing on financial facts, she transforms divorce from a destructive process into one of empowerment. Victoria has also released a 9-part Divorce Planning Kit, available at DivorceAnalytics.com/shop. Along with her many financial licenses, she’s a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®, Certified Divorce Specialist®, and Nationally Certified Professional Mediator®. To connect with Victoria:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorceanalytics.com
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Legal Abuse And High-Conflict Divorces - Lisa Johnson
In this episode, Mardi Winder-Adams sits down with Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There, Got Out, to discuss the complex and often hidden world of legal abuse in high-conflict divorces. Lisa shares her personal journey of navigating post-divorce legal battles, not over custody, but over financial issues, and highlights the crucial role her attorney and an airtight parenting plan played in protecting her children. The conversation delves into the reality that a significant minority of divorce cases (approximately 15-20%) become highly conflicted and can drag on for years, often due to one party abusing the legal system. Lisa explains the concept of legal abuse, where the legal system is weaponized as a tool for control, harassment, and intimidation, either through repeated frivolous litigation or refusal to comply with court orders.She shares how this ongoing cycle can be emotionally and financially draining, and even traumatic, for those on the receiving end. The episode also explores the responsibilities and opportunities for the legal profession to address legal abuse, including how some attorneys and organizations are beginning to take action against unethical practices. Lisa expands on the importance of having court orders with clear deadlines and consequences and emphasizes seeking out professionals, attorneys, mediators, divorce coaches, and others, who are trained to handle high-conflict situations to minimize the need for court intervention. More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/ About the Guest Lisa Johnson is the co-founder of Been There Got Out, a high conflict divorce coach and certified domestic violence advocate who has successfully represented herself through scores of court appearances. Her case, published in the Connecticut Law Journal, is being used as a legal precedent. Her live testimony helped pass Jennifers’ Law in Connecticut, the third state in America to expand its legal definition of domestic violence to include “coercive control.” She and her partner, Chris, the male half of Been There Got Out, coach people in high-conflict relationships, divorce, custody battles, and co-parenting hell so they have the chance of the best outcome in family court and beyond. They also offer a weekly Legal Abuse Support Group for those dealing with narcissistic opponents in legal matters. Their book, "Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances'' was released in March 2023. To get Lisa’s gift: https://beentheregotout.com/legal-abuse-tips/To connect with Lisa: Website: https://BeenThereGotOut.com
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Divorce Decision-Making How to Move Past Indecision and Find Clarity
This episode of Undoing We explores the often-overlooked world of divorce decision making, focusing on why reaching clarity in this life-changing process is so difficult yet so important. Host Mardi Winder-Adams is joined by Mike Fink, who brings warmth and expertise to a discussion about the emotional and psychological hurdles that slow the decision to stay or leave a marriage. Mike explains that indecision during divorce is more than just uncertainty. It can affect productivity, self-esteem, and both mental and physical health, particularly for women who are already in transition. Tune in to learn why the primal parts of our brain are built to keep us in familiar, even if uncomfortable, situations, making divorce decision making an uphill battle against our own instincts.Mike introduces his practical system for gaining clarity, using tools like value mapping to help people clearly identify and rank their most important needs in a relationship. Through determining essential values, he offers a way for those facing divorce to assess whether a partnership is truly sustainable in the long term. The episode offers strategies that are easy to picture and apply, helping you go beyond talk therapy to connect with their deeper instincts. With real stories and step-by-step advice, this conversation is an invitation for anyone struggling with divorce decision making to move forward with confidence, aligning choices with what matters most and ultimately finding a sense of peace. About the Guest Mike Fink is a clarity and decision-making expert, coach, and innovator. With a Master of Science in Psychology from Yale, he helps women considering divorce who are stuck in indecision, fearing they’ll make a mistake they’ll regret. During the first part of his career in personal development, spanning more than two decades, Mike’s programs helped more than 110,000 people across 157 countries achieve life-changing goals. Following a painful turning point, he created The Decoding Grid™, a revolutionary process for high-stakes decision-making. Since 2021, he has dedicated himself to helping women get absolute Clarity & Certainty about their marriage in 30 days or less. Mike is the author of Divorce Decision Decoded: The Revolutionary Guide for Women to Get Clarity & Certainty in 30 Days. Originally from Europe, he has lived in five countries, including the U.S., before settling in Canada. His English accent, a unique blend, is often perceived as French. To get Mike’s gift: https://www.getabsoluteclarity.com/To connect with Mike: Website: https://www.getabsoluteclarity.com/ More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience. Connect with Mardi: Email: [email protected] Website: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/
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Eliminate Anger For Your Health - Dr. Mort Orman, M.D
Many people experience anger on a daily basis, but few of us are educated on how to not just manage the emotion, but to actually eliminate it from our lives. Unfortunately, as my guest Dr. Mort Orman highlights, anger and stress can create short and long term health issues. The episodes focuses on the importance of getting rid of longstanding anger issues to improve our mental and physical health. Dr. Orman and host Mardi Winder-Adams discuss the reality of anger in divorce and the benefits of moving beyond anger to find a healthy way to live and leg go of the negative impact of this emotion. Tune in on NEWStreamingNetwork.com for practical tips and empowering insights.More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life.Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience.Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/About the Guest Dr. Mort Orman, M.D. is an internal medicine physician with 40 years of success as an anger elimination and stress elimination expert. He is creator of the “I Can’t Believe I’m Not Angry Anymore” anger relief program, a 10-session program that has proven to be extremely effective for helping people overcome longstanding anger issues, including anger issues related to divorce. Dr. Orman has led more than 100 anger and stress elimination workshops for doctors, nurses, lawyers, business owners, entrepreneurs, other professionals, and even the F.B.I. He has also been the official sponsor of National Stress Awareness Month in the U.S. every April since 1992.To connect with Dr. Mort: Website: http://docorman.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/docorman LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/docorman
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Downsizing After Divorce Is A Condo The Right Choice Guest Esha Desai
Downsizing after divorce is a popular choice, particularly for those going through a gray divorce and no longer caring for children in the home. Making the decision to change locations and even moving from a house to a condo can be a very positive experience. Mardi Winder-Adams and Real Estate Advisor Esha Desai have a conversation about the pros and cons of condo living, and the often-overlooked upsides for singles and those who want to travel. Esha also shares insight into what to look for when buying a condo, and why it is important to work with an experienced real estate professional throughout the process. Tune in on NEWStreamingNetwork.com for practical tips and empowering insights.More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience.Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/More about Esha:Esha Desai is known as "Real Estate Matchmaker" - Leverage my Knowledge & Expertise to Get What You Want. She follows 3 Core Principles: Efficient, Honest, and Committed to YOUR Success. Esha is not an ordinary realtor, as her clients attest. As an ex-management consultant, she is driven by her need to leverage knowledge, expertise, and resources to help you make the right decision for you and your family. Her clients often become her friends. “It would be my honor to be your guide, advisor, and concierge—committed to partnering with you to buy, sell, invest, or rent a luxury home in the greater Miami/Ft Lauderdale area.”To connect with Esha:Phone: 305-772-0007LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esha-k-desaiy-b3a8531a5/ IG:https://www.instagram.com/miamirealtoresha/
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The Benefits of Mediation with Michael Cohen
This episode features Mardi Winder-Adams and Michael Cohen discussing the role of the mediator and mediation in the divorce process. Michael and Mardi are both trained mediators with years of experience in helping individuals settle all aspects of their divorce, including financial issues and coparenting plans. The discussion includes the benefits of mediation, how mediation can help reduce the costs of divorce, and how mediators can help in creating effective ways to communicate, even when it may be difficult. This episode offers insight and practical tips and strategies for anyone going through divorce who is interested in using mediation.More about Mardi: Mardi Winder-Adams is a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach, with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools. She is a credentialed mediator with over 30 years of experience in helping people navigate conflict, manage the challenges of divorce, and focus on creating positive transitions, even at very stressful times in life. Mardi is the best-selling author of From I Do to I’m Done and The Other Side of Divorce. She speaks internationally on conflict resolution, divorce, communication, and developing emotional intelligence and resilience.Connect with Mardi:Email: [email protected]: https://www.divorcecoach4women.com/More about Michael: Michael Cohen is a passionate divorce mediator who cares about his clients and their families, and who is driven to help them divorce in the healthiest way possible to preserve their ability to co-parent effectively and minimize the impact of their divorce on their children. Michael guides his clients toward healthy financial decisions, and leads his clients through a collaborative process to help them create the healthiest parenting plan for them and their children. Michael earned his CPA while at the University of Illinois, and his Divorce Mediation Certification at Northwestern University. Michael is divorced and has three children, who are the inspiration for the work that he does for others.Connect with Michael:Website:https://michaelsmediation.com
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
UnDoing We: Divorce and Life Conversations is not your typical divorce show. Hosted by Mardi Winder, a certified divorce transition and high-conflict divorce coach with experience as a domestic violence client advocate and behavioral consultant for schools, this show offers real talk, expert advice, and honest discussions on ending a relationship and the opportunity to redefine your life. Each episode provides practical guidance and emotional insight to help you move forward with clarity and confidence. Tune in for candid conversations with top experts on legal, financial, co-parenting, mindset, wellness, and more. UnDoing We is where your next chapter begins.
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